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| 00:52.35 | ohsix | what happened to my poor radio shack |
| 00:52.53 | ohsix | its all cell phones + rc cars now, not even good ones of either |
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| 00:56.44 | J4k3 | radio shack cells cingular now... so they sell toy phones and toy cars |
| 00:56.48 | J4k3 | er sells cingular |
| 00:57.55 | ohsix | whoever picks the parts they DO carry, is retarded |
| 00:58.07 | ohsix | they only had one 74 series piece |
| 01:00.19 | J4k3 | well |
| 01:00.26 | agaffney | radio shack has gone down the tubes |
| 01:00.33 | J4k3 | they haven't really updated their component list since I was in grade school |
| 01:00.35 | J4k3 | and I'm 27 now. |
| 01:00.52 | J4k3 | well, they've lost things off the list |
| 01:01.06 | J4k3 | but haven't added anything as far as I can see |
| 01:01.19 | J4k3 | I remember when radio shack |
| 01:01.30 | J4k3 | sold a $99 voice recorder/playback chip... 40 pins |
| 01:01.32 | J4k3 | ooh, ahh |
| 01:01.37 | J4k3 | it stayed under the counter. |
| 01:01.47 | ohsix | from ISD heh |
| 01:01.50 | ohsix | yea, useless |
| 01:13.12 | fishhead | btw |
| 01:13.20 | fishhead | now they have digital voice recorders |
| 01:13.21 | fishhead | with a usb port |
| 01:13.22 | fishhead | OWNS |
| 01:13.23 | fishhead | YOUR |
| 01:13.24 | fishhead | CANUCK |
| 01:32.39 | J4k3 | shutup fuckhead |
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| 01:33.11 | fishhead | i'll talk to prpp tomarrow about getting you banned from this channel |
| 01:33.18 | fishhead | if you want to start shit with me I will finish it |
| 01:33.43 | J4k3 | alright. we'll see where it gets ya. |
| 01:33.56 | fishhead | and there is always plan b if that doesn't work |
| 01:34.55 | J4k3 | oooh, plan B |
| 01:35.40 | fishhead | fucking idiot |
| 01:35.58 | ohsix | zyklon b |
| 01:35.59 | fishhead | I made a comment about some parts of africa being reduced to cannibalism |
| 01:36.05 | fishhead | because the land is such a shit hole |
| 01:36.10 | fishhead | has 0% to do with being black |
| 01:36.15 | fishhead | and now he thinks I am racist |
| 01:36.21 | fishhead | the same shit is happening in north korea |
| 01:36.26 | fishhead | people being reduced to eating the dead |
| 01:36.32 | J4k3 | no, you made a comment on debeers fucking over certain areas of africa to... <fishhead> congrats |
| 01:36.32 | J4k3 | <fishhead> now you will pay the price |
| 01:36.38 | J4k3 | ah... wrong paste. |
| 01:37.00 | J4k3 | <fishhead> synth besides, it can't be any worse than sitting around eating each other |
| 01:37.07 | fishhead | I said the little they pay miners was probably still better than being reduced to eating each other |
| 01:37.17 | fishhead | you are looking for shit that isn't there |
| 01:37.18 | J4k3 | no, you didn't. |
| 01:37.24 | J4k3 | I read what you typed. |
| 01:37.31 | J4k3 | google already has the log... congrats. |
| 01:37.32 | fishhead | then either I didn't phrase it well |
| 01:37.38 | fishhead | if you just are desperate to make it look bad |
| 01:37.43 | fishhead | cause even other people said it was fine |
| 01:38.01 | J4k3 | ooh, ahh... |
| 01:38.06 | J4k3 | I bet they did. |
| 01:38.07 | fishhead | I DO SOME OF MY BEST WORK FOR SEVERAL BLACK FOLKS |
| 01:38.09 | fishhead | MORON |
| 01:38.16 | J4k3 | its not much worse than most of the other shit you've come up with |
| 01:38.21 | J4k3 | wow... congrats |
| 01:38.26 | fishhead | my biggest checks for side work come from |
| 01:38.32 | fishhead | I am not the one that talks about "niggers" all the time |
| 01:38.33 | fishhead | AHEM |
| 01:38.44 | J4k3 | you're the one thats typed the word now, twice. |
| 01:38.51 | fishhead | yeah in " " |
| 01:38.52 | fishhead | twice |
| 01:38.53 | fishhead | thx |
| 01:38.54 | J4k3 | so? |
| 01:39.01 | fishhead | MEANS A QUOTE FROM SOMEONE ELSE |
| 01:39.03 | fishhead | IN THIS CASE YOU |
| 01:39.22 | J4k3 | dude, get off the lead poisoning |
| 01:39.42 | fishhead | OH LOOK |
| 01:39.44 | fishhead | <fishhead> synth besides, it can't be any worse than sitting around eating each other |
| 01:39.44 | fishhead | <synth> fishhead, diamond trade is the motivating factor for most illegal activity in africa |
| 01:39.44 | fishhead | <fishhead> in some areas of africa that are so poor |
| 01:39.53 | fishhead | NOTICE THE NEXT LINE FROM ME |
| 01:43.30 | fishhead | and j4k3 has the balls to preach to me about being on prescription medications, he is more unstable than I am |
| 01:43.37 | fishhead | he reads lines that aren't there and flips out on me |
| 01:43.42 | fishhead | I give up, welcome to ignore |
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| 04:13.57 | jbevren | I really dont get this |
| 04:13.59 | jbevren | xli cant load the image |
| 04:14.04 | jbevren | feh gets the colors wrong |
| 04:14.10 | jbevren | gimp, firefox, xv no problem |
| 04:14.38 | jbevren | thats pretty backwards imho |
| 04:15.02 | ohsix | orly |
| 04:15.25 | jbevren | and this only happens when the ppc is the display |
| 04:15.38 | jbevren | craziness |
| 04:15.53 | ohsix | what is feh? |
| 04:16.01 | jbevren | feh: feh (1) - image viewer and cataloguer |
| 04:16.10 | jbevren | I use it to set my backdrop |
| 04:16.39 | jbevren | works fine on the sparcstation |
| 04:16.47 | jbevren | works fine on x86 local display, and on Xming |
| 04:16.51 | jbevren | doestn work on the ppc |
| 04:17.11 | jbevren | the ppc is the only opposite-endian box in the mix |
| 04:17.24 | jbevren | I thought the X protocol was platform-transparent :P |
| 04:17.46 | ohsix | what image format? |
| 04:17.54 | jbevren | doesnt matter |
| 04:17.57 | jbevren | png, jpg |
| 04:18.07 | jbevren | gimp works, xv works, firefox works |
| 04:18.12 | jbevren | xli and feh do not |
| 04:18.16 | ohsix | maybe its the way feh draws em |
| 04:18.18 | jbevren | xli and feh are obviously the applications with issues |
| 04:18.23 | ohsix | ya |
| 04:18.25 | jbevren | maybe the X protocol is network transparent? |
| 04:18.33 | jbevren | hehe :) |
| 04:19.06 | ohsix | i can think of a handful of ways to break it on purpose with some assumptions :P |
| 04:24.09 | ohsix | imlib function signatures are nice and long |
| 04:27.14 | ohsix | womg oracle buys sleepycat |
| 04:27.32 | jbevren | remind me what sleepycat does |
| 04:27.41 | ohsix | libdb |
| 04:52.55 | J4k3 | whoracle |
| 04:56.29 | fishhead | HAHAHHAH |
| 05:00.34 | fishhead | how long can I go with usb 1.1 before I run into problems length wise? |
| 05:00.45 | J4k3 | depends |
| 05:01.00 | J4k3 | the signaling part will usually make 75 ft over 1 pr of cat5 |
| 05:01.00 | fishhead | is about to take a junk webcam and 2 usb extension cords and make a SNAKEcam for the furnace ductwork |
| 05:01.05 | J4k3 | the power is crap, its 5v.. |
| 05:01.29 | fishhead | as long as I get pics I don't give a fuck |
| 05:01.30 | fishhead | :P |
| 05:01.42 | fishhead | ooo |
| 05:01.45 | J4k3 | if you feed it more voltage, then regulate to 5v near the cam, you're safe for like 50-75ft |
| 05:01.47 | fishhead | mount white led on top |
| 05:01.54 | fishhead | tap off the 5 |
| 05:01.59 | J4k3 | yeah, you'll have unlimited energy available. |
| 05:02.12 | J4k3 | dude |
| 05:02.13 | J4k3 | duuude |
| 05:02.15 | J4k3 | I just had a great idea |
| 05:02.16 | fishhead | it's a old intel webcam |
| 05:02.20 | J4k3 | I have some old Capscella toys |
| 05:02.28 | fishhead | those are probably worth $$$ now |
| 05:02.32 | J4k3 | motorized modular toys |
| 05:02.35 | J4k3 | they are |
| 05:02.35 | jbevren | hm wonder ifthe gp2x would survive on 3.3v |
| 05:02.37 | J4k3 | but imagine |
| 05:02.40 | J4k3 | using them to move your camera |
| 05:02.43 | J4k3 | nicely |
| 05:02.45 | fishhead | hehe |
| 05:02.52 | fishhead | too bulky |
| 05:03.15 | fishhead | I am going to drop this in a hole |
| 05:03.15 | fishhead | an chances are it's not goin to make it back |
| 05:03.24 | fishhead | cause the new furnace is cyling like a mofo like the old one did |
| 05:03.29 | fishhead | something is very wrong |
| 05:03.38 | J4k3 | bad wiring? |
| 05:04.00 | J4k3 | thermostat wiring will drive you nuts |
| 05:04.02 | J4k3 | never |
| 05:04.02 | J4k3 | ever |
| 05:04.04 | J4k3 | use cat5 |
| 05:04.06 | J4k3 | its too small |
| 05:04.10 | jbevren | they ahve this wire |
| 05:04.11 | J4k3 | you need 20 or 22ga |
| 05:04.11 | jbevren | its called |
| 05:04.14 | jbevren | thermostat wire |
| 05:04.16 | jbevren | use it |
| 05:04.16 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 05:04.19 | jbevren | :) |
| 05:04.19 | J4k3 | exactly. |
| 05:04.27 | jbevren | I recommend using 3-wire thermostat wire |
| 05:04.34 | jbevren | just in case you decide to install a smart thermostat |
| 05:04.36 | J4k3 | I have heat pumps |
| 05:04.38 | J4k3 | its like 234234 wires |
| 05:04.39 | jbevren | you have an extra line for power |
| 05:05.10 | jbevren | fishhead: are you sure the walls are insulated? |
| 05:05.16 | fishhead | probably defintely not |
| 05:05.17 | jbevren | a drafty house will cycle a lot |
| 05:05.23 | jbevren | that's probably most of the problem |
| 05:05.25 | fishhead | single floor house |
| 05:05.26 | jbevren | get it insulated :) |
| 05:05.30 | fishhead | when they open the door |
| 05:05.31 | jbevren | its worth the cost after 2 years |
| 05:05.33 | fishhead | upstairs |
| 05:05.39 | fishhead | I get rained on with cold air |
| 05:05.41 | fishhead | in the basement |
| 05:05.53 | jbevren | definately have insulation pumped into your walls |
| 05:06.16 | jbevren | if your family isnt rich, the DHS may help |
| 05:06.22 | jbevren | they paid to have my mom's house insulated |
| 05:06.30 | J4k3 | dhs... homoland security? |
| 05:06.34 | jbevren | saved her like $300 in one year |
| 05:06.38 | jbevren | department of human services |
| 05:06.41 | J4k3 | ahh |
| 05:06.42 | J4k3 | ok |
| 05:06.50 | jbevren | my brother used to run a DHS office in Iowa |
| 05:07.00 | fishhead | bah |
| 05:07.07 | fishhead | i'll get a few cans of expand o foam |
| 05:07.09 | fishhead | and do it mysel |
| 05:07.16 | jbevren | you dont want to use expanding foam |
| 05:07.18 | jbevren | you really dont |
| 05:07.21 | J4k3 | no shit |
| 05:07.21 | jbevren | it'll blow the walls apart :) |
| 05:07.26 | jbevren | -maybe- around the foundation |
| 05:07.27 | J4k3 | haha yes |
| 05:07.31 | J4k3 | and it'd cost a fortune |
| 05:07.42 | jbevren | and its fugly :) |
| 05:07.47 | J4k3 | very |
| 05:07.53 | jbevren | you can get limited-expanding foam |
| 05:07.56 | jbevren | its for installing windows |
| 05:08.01 | jbevren | use that if you like |
| 05:08.16 | jbevren | it expands like the regular stuff, but doesnt push as hard |
| 05:08.21 | fishhead | hmm |
| 05:08.24 | fishhead | expand o foam |
| 05:08.25 | jbevren | tis great for sealing windows (I used to be a remodeling carpenter) |
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| 05:08.27 | fishhead | + woman's clothing |
| 05:08.34 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.36 | jbevren | 0-15vdc 3-amp psu |
| 05:11.37 | jbevren | hrm |
| 05:11.42 | jbevren | adjustable current limit |
| 05:14.32 | joe_bleau | I've got a BDM cable on this MPC850 router. Is there a known default location for flash (2MB) and SDRAM (4MB)? |
| 05:14.40 | jbevren | bdm? |
| 05:14.56 | jbevren | ram at 0? |
| 05:15.05 | jbevren | flash similar to the walnut for boot? |
| 05:15.20 | jbevren | or does ppcboot relocate the sdram mapping |
| 05:15.55 | jbevren | zorix: walk your kid to school? |
| 05:16.04 | joe_bleau | This is one of those $5 Cayman boxes. I'm guessing vxworks. |
| 05:16.10 | fishhead | oooo |
| 05:16.12 | fishhead | where from |
| 05:16.25 | fishhead | oh is that the one I told you guys about |
| 05:16.42 | jbevren | hehe |
| 05:16.44 | joe_bleau | one of those surplus places. |
| 05:16.49 | jbevren | ah |
| 05:16.50 | jbevren | curious |
| 05:16.53 | jbevren | where from :) |
| 05:17.07 | fishhead | if you get it working with uclinux nicely |
| 05:17.09 | fishhead | let me know |
| 05:17.10 | joe_bleau | They had a sale on 32MB SD cards, so we bought 20 cards, and I tacked on a router for myself. |
| 05:17.19 | fishhead | wow |
| 05:17.19 | jbevren | fishhead: its a mpc8250 |
| 05:17.23 | jbevren | you dont need to uclinux it |
| 05:17.26 | fishhead | which is a coldfire I think |
| 05:17.28 | jbevren | the mpc8xxx has a mmu |
| 05:17.33 | fishhead | well uclinux is smaller |
| 05:17.34 | joe_bleau | MPC850, sorry. |
| 05:17.42 | jbevren | standard linux kernel + uclinux env |
| 05:17.44 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.51 | fishhead | cool |
| 05:18.00 | fishhead | what did you use all those 32 meg cards for :p |
| 05:18.07 | joe_bleau | Palm stuff |
| 05:18.13 | jbevren | joe_bleau: where from :) |
| 05:18.28 | jbevren | Instruction and Data MMUs <- mpc850 |
| 05:18.30 | jbevren | :) |
| 05:18.31 | fishhead | neat |
| 05:18.35 | jbevren | you can use a standard kernel |
| 05:18.36 | joe_bleau | I don't remember. Lemme see if I kept a link. |
| 05:18.41 | jbevren | http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC850&nodeId= |
| 05:18.44 | fishhead | www.surpluscomputers.com |
| 05:19.08 | jbevren | 66mhz |
| 05:19.16 | fishhead | oh it's a hub |
| 05:19.18 | fishhead | not a switch |
| 05:19.18 | joe_bleau | could have been. |
| 05:19.23 | fishhead | and 10mbit only |
| 05:19.24 | joe_bleau | Yep, 10MBit. |
| 05:19.37 | joe_bleau | Looks like the code supports wireless, but no hardware. |
| 05:19.37 | jbevren | 10Mbit's enough for 7Mbit dsl ;-) |
| 05:19.39 | fishhead | although |
| 05:19.44 | fishhead | for $5 |
| 05:19.50 | jbevren | link? |
| 05:19.50 | fishhead | since it has a serial port |
| 05:19.50 | joe_bleau | Although there's a big unpopulated connector inside. |
| 05:19.58 | fishhead | uou could make into a roubot controller or something |
| 05:20.02 | fishhead | www.surpluscomputers.com |
| 05:20.16 | jbevren | surpluscomputers has about 500 products |
| 05:20.16 | jbevren | link? |
| 05:20.21 | fishhead | lazy ass |
| 05:20.25 | fishhead | search yourself |
| 05:20.28 | fishhead | na it's right on the front |
| 05:20.56 | jbevren | ah, the cayman? |
| 05:20.56 | fishhead | can you get a linux router setup in 2 meg ram though |
| 05:21.01 | fishhead | 1 meg flash |
| 05:21.01 | fishhead | yes |
| 05:21.03 | jbevren | I have a cayman gatorbox |
| 05:21.12 | jbevren | theyre hard to find |
| 05:21.23 | jbevren | localtalk -> ethertalk phase2 |
| 05:21.24 | fishhead | that's tempting to get |
| 05:21.28 | jbevren | it even does MacIP routing |
| 05:21.50 | joe_bleau | gdbnub? |
| 05:21.53 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L3 BR: No wireless hardware detected |
| 05:21.53 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L4 BR: No configuration options available, establishing default |
| 05:21.53 | joe_bleau | s |
| 05:21.53 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L4 GDB: PowerPC gdbnub debugger is not installed |
| 05:21.53 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L4 BR: Cayman OS version 6.3.0 (build R2) |
| 05:21.54 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L4 BR: Cayman-2E1262550 (Cayman-2E, rev 1), PID 0922 |
| 05:21.56 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L4 BR: last install status: code flash successfully programmed |
| 05:21.58 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L4 BR: memory sizes - 1536K Flash, 4096K RAM |
| 05:22.00 | joe_bleau | 00:00:00:00 L4 BR: free memory: 1396078 bytes, starting at 0x2ab282 |
| 05:22.13 | fishhead | whoa it's ppc |
| 05:22.19 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I think this is the same place: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=NET10330 |
| 05:22.20 | jbevren | mpc850 is ppc, dude :) |
| 05:22.33 | jbevren | nod, I spotted it |
| 05:22.48 | jbevren | joe; serial console? |
| 05:22.53 | joe_bleau | I've been enjoying the ppc stuff lately, so why not? |
| 05:23.00 | joe_bleau | Yeah, 9 pin on the back. |
| 05:23.03 | fishhead | yeah for $5 |
| 05:23.11 | fishhead | the hub |
| 05:23.14 | fishhead | how is that linked |
| 05:23.17 | joe_bleau | Wall wart is 9V, not 12V |
| 05:23.19 | fishhead | wonder if you can rip that out |
| 05:23.23 | fishhead | and get the gpio |
| 05:23.26 | jbevren | so it probably has two net ifaces |
| 05:23.35 | joe_bleau | Yes, two. |
| 05:23.39 | jbevren | oen for the wan |
| 05:23.41 | jbevren | the other to the 5port hub |
| 05:23.46 | jbevren | 4 ports are exposed to the bulkhead |
| 05:23.50 | jbevren | one is on the second nic |
| 05:23.52 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.07 | joe_bleau | One wan port, one lan port. I suspect the LAN port is on the 8 port hub |
| 05:24.35 | joe_bleau | IP interfaces: |
| 05:24.35 | joe_bleau | ENET (10BT-LAN): ( up broadcast default rip-send v1 rip-receive v1 ) |
| 05:24.35 | joe_bleau | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.35 | joe_bleau | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.35 | joe_bleau | ENET (10BT-WAN): ( dhcp-client-acq broadcast default address-mapping ) |
| 05:24.36 | joe_bleau | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.38 | joe_bleau | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.39 | fishhead | tempting to get one for my router |
| 05:24.45 | fishhead | and save the ppc for something else |
| 05:24.59 | joe_bleau | It's pretty old technology. |
| 05:25.47 | fishhead | i'd like to see a pic of the inside |
| 05:26.01 | jbevren | you can probably drop another 4M chip in by soldering everything but CS :) |
| 05:26.11 | fishhead | you know what you could do |
| 05:26.14 | fishhead | attach a lcd to it |
| 05:26.14 | jbevren | some guy did that with the dreamcast |
| 05:26.18 | jbevren | he had two flash roms on it |
| 05:26.22 | fishhead | or mod in a juicebox |
| 05:26.24 | fishhead | make network mp3 player |
| 05:26.44 | jbevren | fishhead: A friend rus esd on his sgi indy |
| 05:26.50 | jbevren | the indy has sp/dif output |
| 05:26.54 | jbevren | he has that run to his amp :) |
| 05:27.17 | joe_bleau | There's an unpopulated set of pads right next to the flash chip. |
| 05:27.22 | fishhead | let me know joe as soon as you ind stuff out |
| 05:27.28 | fishhead | if it has any io etc |
| 05:27.30 | jbevren | joe_bleau: another flash chip? |
| 05:27.42 | joe_bleau | Looks like 2 leds, two more led slots |
| 05:27.43 | jbevren | joe_bleau: can you by chance take a shot of the board? |
| 05:27.47 | fishhead | yes please |
| 05:27.50 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I guess. |
| 05:27.55 | jbevren | :D |
| 05:28.23 | jbevren | oh |
| 05:28.26 | jbevren | 8port hub |
| 05:28.28 | jbevren | I misread |
| 05:28.48 | jbevren | joe_bleau: have you tried space or ctrl-c before the cayman OS loads? |
| 05:30.06 | joe_bleau | Hey, there's a 4 pin connector on the back, unpopulated. |
| 05:30.07 | jbevren | one SPI :D |
| 05:30.13 | fishhead | OMG |
| 05:30.13 | jbevren | . o O ( mmc ) |
| 05:30.14 | joe_bleau | I cleaned out all the unused through holes. |
| 05:30.21 | joe_bleau | Wonder if it's the USB port? |
| 05:30.40 | joe_bleau | What am I gonna do with these pics, assuming that they came out ok? |
| 05:30.51 | fishhead | i KNOW WHAT i am going to do with them |
| 05:31.01 | jbevren | if you dont have a webserver, I put them on mine |
| 05:31.07 | jbevren | fishhead: cut it out |
| 05:31.08 | jbevren | hehe |
| 05:31.13 | jbevren | that's uncalled for |
| 05:31.20 | jbevren | vaseline is too coarse for one thing |
| 05:31.24 | jbevren | and socks are too rough for another |
| 05:31.24 | fishhead | I was kiddinh |
| 05:31.29 | jbevren | :D |
| 05:31.30 | fishhead | I don't do either |
| 05:31.37 | jbevren | I prefer snakes and lotion |
| 05:31.41 | jbevren | j/k :) |
| 05:32.04 | joe_bleau | Standby |
| 05:34.13 | jbevren | what chip is on the device? |
| 05:34.18 | joe_bleau | Decent overall and ok closeup of the fun chips |
| 05:34.25 | jbevren | I see four rev's on the site |
| 05:34.30 | jbevren | er four types |
| 05:34.37 | jbevren | blank, d, sr, dsl |
| 05:34.42 | jbevren | s/d/de/ |
| 05:34.54 | joe_bleau | I dunno if the expansion port is identifiable or not. |
| 05:35.10 | joe_bleau | So, how do I transfer? They're big: ~1.6MB each, 3 images total. |
| 05:35.21 | jbevren | tar them and dcc |
| 05:35.30 | jbevren | I'll upload them to my website |
| 05:35.34 | joe_bleau | 'k |
| 05:36.13 | jbevren | http://jbevren.net/cayman prepped |
| 05:36.14 | jbevren | hehe |
| 05:36.42 | jbevren | its quieter at full tilt than it i swhen throttled heh |
| 05:37.00 | jbevren | joe_bleau: how large is it overall? |
| 05:37.12 | joe_bleau | 5MB. |
| 05:37.24 | joe_bleau | I can't send DCC--firewall. |
| 05:37.42 | joe_bleau | Lemme PM you a link, then you can host. Kosher? |
| 05:38.22 | jbevren | sure |
| 05:38.52 | joe_bleau | Just take a sec here |
| 05:39.59 | jbevren | hm |
| 05:40.11 | jbevren | the Hippo internet phone uses a 48mhz mpc850 and linux |
| 05:40.18 | jbevren | so there's a port floating somewhere :) |
| 05:40.50 | jbevren | did you peek at the chip code on the mpc850? |
| 05:41.12 | J4k3 | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4007221391.html |
| 05:42.29 | J4k3 | wow |
| 05:42.53 | joe_bleau | XPC850SRZT50B |
| 05:43.07 | J4k3 | that article's noted experience with wind river products seems to mirror valemount's experience with vxworks (another wind river pos) |
| 05:44.20 | fishhead | Next, they switched to the Motorola PowerPC platform and, after what they thought was an exhaustive investigation of alternatives, settled on Wind River's pSOS embedded OS. "Shortly after we purchased a Motorola 'FADS board' for the PowerPC," recalls Whitridge, "we found out that pSOS had never been brought up on the board -- at least not to our satisfaction. We went thru round after round of questions and lame answers: 'Oh, you want to use both se |
| 05:44.20 | fishhead | rial ports?' . . . 'Oh, you need an IP stack?' . . ." |
| 05:44.24 | fishhead | YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU ..... |
| 05:44.27 | fishhead | YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU .............. |
| 05:44.30 | fishhead | YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU .DIE! |
| 05:44.38 | fishhead | SORRY THAT ONE needed to be ramped up |
| 05:44.47 | J4k3 | stfu |
| 05:44.52 | jbevren | refresh |
| 05:44.53 | fishhead | no you stfu |
| 05:45.00 | J4k3 | you don't need to paste half the fucking page |
| 05:45.05 | J4k3 | learn some net manners |
| 05:45.16 | J4k3 | you've been on IRC long enough not to act like a fucking AOLer |
| 05:45.25 | jbevren | ah its an SR |
| 05:45.28 | fishhead | dude |
| 05:45.29 | fishhead | read it |
| 05:45.30 | fishhead | it's funny |
| 05:45.31 | jbevren | no. |
| 05:45.37 | fishhead | this channel is looser than st0rmy |
| 05:45.37 | jbevren | youre acting like a child |
| 05:45.39 | fishhead | so stfu j4k3 |
| 05:45.45 | J4k3 | I read it, on the web page, thats why we don't need you to paste it |
| 05:45.47 | jbevren | I know you have issues, but you still need to work on controlling them |
| 05:45.57 | J4k3 | yes |
| 05:46.00 | J4k3 | its not up to us to adjust |
| 05:46.03 | J4k3 | because you act like a child |
| 05:46.15 | fishhead | whatever |
| 05:46.19 | jbevren | lol esd.exe uses 72% cpu |
| 05:46.29 | jbevren | just to move audio from net to sound card on windows |
| 05:46.32 | J4k3 | I think everybody can agree on this flyback |
| 05:46.34 | jbevren | on a p3/866 |
| 05:46.42 | fishhead | hmm |
| 05:46.44 | jbevren | so the cpu is a 850SR |
| 05:46.52 | fishhead | wonder if webpal would make a good esd receipiant |
| 05:46.52 | jbevren | which has ethernet, 2x scc, 64channel hdlc, atm, and usb |
| 05:47.03 | jbevren | fishhead: in linux, I bet so |
| 05:47.10 | jbevren | as long as audio works in linux |
| 05:47.14 | fishhead | it does |
| 05:47.16 | jbevren | this is probably cpu time lost in teh HAL |
| 05:47.18 | fishhead | you need to change the crystal really |
| 05:47.24 | fishhead | cause they canucked up |
| 05:47.28 | fishhead | use the wrong freq |
| 05:48.10 | fishhead | "oh you want to use both serial ports" |
| 05:48.17 | fishhead | man I haven't laughed that hard in ages |
| 05:48.20 | jbevren | esd goes to 80 |
| 05:48.21 | jbevren | wtf? |
| 05:48.39 | fishhead | hey don't talk about my friend like that |
| 05:48.55 | jbevren | fishhead: I've avoided /ingoring you thus far |
| 05:48.59 | jbevren | dont make me do it :( |
| 05:49.05 | fishhead | dude nm |
| 05:49.12 | J4k3 | fishhead: whats sad is... they're not joking... wind river apparently deeply screwed valemount (staros, etc) |
| 05:49.12 | fishhead | you didn't even let me finish the joke |
| 05:49.21 | fishhead | j4k3 I know they aren't |
| 05:49.22 | jbevren | you beat the hell out of me |
| 05:49.25 | jbevren | I dont tolerate that :) |
| 05:49.34 | fishhead | jbevren, I have a friend on irc named esd |
| 05:49.54 | fishhead | j4k3 that's why it's so funny |
| 05:49.58 | fishhead | they are so pathetic |
| 05:51.05 | jbevren | joe_bleau: pcmcia and ide? |
| 05:51.26 | joe_bleau | Could it be some sort of wireless slot? |
| 05:51.31 | fishhead | wait |
| 05:51.34 | fishhead | when did we get the pics up |
| 05:51.57 | jbevren | just now |
| 05:51.58 | fishhead | OMG |
| 05:52.02 | fishhead | I SO NEED THIS |
| 05:52.02 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CPM10312 |
| 05:52.08 | fishhead | give me the url |
| 05:52.15 | jbevren | we did |
| 05:52.19 | jbevren | jbevren.net/cayman/ |
| 05:52.46 | fishhead | holy shit |
| 05:52.49 | fishhead | the nic is intel? |
| 05:52.52 | jbevren | in router.png, thats your jtagger? |
| 05:52.58 | joe_bleau | The overall didn't want to focus, so it's a little hard to see some of the details |
| 05:53.03 | fishhead | joe |
| 05:53.07 | fishhead | it's better than the pos I have |
| 05:53.08 | fishhead | way better |
| 05:53.10 | fishhead | nice job bro |
| 05:53.12 | jbevren | the intel chip is a PHY |
| 05:53.12 | joe_bleau | Nope, that's my *genuine* Macraigor wiggler |
| 05:53.16 | jbevren | its not a nic |
| 05:53.27 | jbevren | joe_bleau: so its a jtagger heh |
| 05:53.30 | joe_bleau | There are two PHYs. |
| 05:53.38 | joe_bleau | BDM, not JTAG. |
| 05:53.39 | jbevren | fishhead: if you look at your ppc board |
| 05:53.45 | jbevren | see the NS IC near the pulse transformer? |
| 05:53.48 | jbevren | thats a PHY |
| 05:53.53 | jbevren | the intel chips are the same |
| 05:54.00 | jbevren | it handles the physical ethernet interface for the cpu |
| 05:54.09 | jbevren | the cpu chip itself has the NICs |
| 05:54.11 | fishhead | yeah I am just surpsied they used anything intel |
| 05:54.16 | fishhead | since they are usually the most expensive |
| 05:54.20 | fishhead | althought heir nic stuff rocks |
| 05:54.22 | fishhead | mac and phy |
| 05:54.39 | jbevren | yep |
| 05:54.44 | fishhead | you guys keep me updates on this cayman |
| 05:54.50 | fishhead | if you discover any usb ports, gpio etc |
| 05:54.55 | fishhead | i will wait off ordering till then |
| 05:55.01 | fishhead | i have too many stories and piles of "what if |
| 05:55.13 | J4k3 | I have the 4 port Alcatel ADSL version of that box |
| 05:55.14 | fishhead | wish it had a damn parallel port |
| 05:55.18 | jbevren | the 4pin connector by power looks usb'ish |
| 05:55.21 | fishhead | perfect print server |
| 05:55.28 | jbevren | are the leads connected? |
| 05:55.34 | jbevren | oh |
| 05:55.41 | jbevren | the intel ICs are hub chips I think |
| 05:56.01 | jbevren | there's no other hub IC that I can find |
| 05:56.04 | jbevren | unless its on the secondary side |
| 05:56.08 | fishhead | yes there has to be |
| 05:56.10 | fishhead | i was just about to ask that |
| 05:56.17 | fishhead | doesn't there have to be a hub or switch chip |
| 05:56.39 | jbevren | fishhead: or two |
| 05:56.39 | fishhead | what's the cable on the left side |
| 05:56.40 | jbevren | hehe |
| 05:56.44 | jbevren | fishhead: two 2port hubs |
| 05:56.46 | jbevren | er |
| 05:56.47 | jbevren | 4port |
| 05:56.49 | fishhead | no |
| 05:56.50 | jbevren | I dunno |
| 05:56.52 | fishhead | the pallel port |
| 05:56.54 | fishhead | looking thing |
| 05:56.59 | J4k3 | does the 850 have internal ethernet? |
| 05:57.01 | jbevren | where |
| 05:57.06 | fishhead | in the router pic |
| 05:57.09 | jbevren | jake: the 850 has two ethernet-capable SCCs |
| 05:57.14 | jbevren | be more vague fh |
| 05:57.19 | jbevren | where in the router pic |
| 05:57.23 | fishhead | I said |
| 05:57.25 | fishhead | left |
| 05:57.26 | J4k3 | jbevren: ah |
| 05:57.30 | fishhead | it's not part of the router |
| 05:57.31 | jbevren | fishhead: thats a jtag dongle |
| 05:57.34 | fishhead | just has a cable going to it |
| 05:57.35 | fishhead | oh |
| 05:57.36 | fishhead | awesome |
| 05:57.47 | jbevren | or so joe said I believe |
| 05:57.52 | joe_bleau | The 10 pin ribbon is my debug connector |
| 05:58.13 | fishhead | OH |
| 05:58.17 | joe_bleau | (bottom left on the overall pic) |
| 05:58.17 | jbevren | joe_bleau: waht does boundary scan tell you? |
| 05:58.20 | fishhead | I see what you are talking about now |
| 05:58.24 | fishhead | beside the serial port |
| 05:58.25 | fishhead | 4 pins |
| 05:58.28 | fishhead | could be usb |
| 05:58.34 | jbevren | fishhead: upper right |
| 05:58.36 | jbevren | by power |
| 05:58.46 | fishhead | another one |
| 05:58.47 | fishhead | wow |
| 05:59.00 | joe_bleau | No, upper right by power is 8 pin, as for an RJ-45 |
| 05:59.01 | jbevren | that looks more like landing pads for a surface mount usb |
| 05:59.05 | jbevren | the other onme I dnno |
| 05:59.10 | jbevren | maybe another eth phy |
| 05:59.10 | joe_bleau | Look bottom right, near the serial connector |
| 05:59.11 | fishhead | joe that could be a serial port also |
| 05:59.22 | jbevren | 4 ports |
| 05:59.24 | jbevren | crazy |
| 05:59.25 | jbevren | er pins |
| 05:59.31 | jbevren | joe_bleau: where do they go :) |
| 05:59.41 | fishhead | damn |
| 05:59.44 | fishhead | if this thing has usb |
| 05:59.47 | fishhead | I am defintely getting a few |
| 05:59.55 | fishhead | ethernet to usb box :) |
| 05:59.59 | joe_bleau | Don't know yet. There's a wide unpopulated set of lands at top right, which fits the ethernet iso xformer down below. |
| 06:00.08 | fishhead | think of the possibilities |
| 06:00.15 | joe_bleau | There's a missing chip near the bottom right four pin connector, which might be USB. |
| 06:00.19 | jbevren | joe_bleau: ohh I see it better now |
| 06:00.23 | jbevren | there are 8 pins, not 4 lands |
| 06:00.32 | joe_bleau | Yeah, it's fuzzy. |
| 06:01.10 | jbevren | lol where are prpplague and gpsfan hehe |
| 06:01.20 | fishhead | if this has usb |
| 06:01.22 | jbevren | a new device to conqueor (sp?) |
| 06:01.26 | fishhead | I am thinking cheap sound device |
| 06:01.26 | jbevren | fishhead: if. hehe |
| 06:01.34 | fishhead | with a $5 usb sound chip |
| 06:01.46 | fishhead | or print server with a usb to parallel port adaptor |
| 06:02.03 | jbevren | a fullspeed (12Mbit) usb port is fast enough for stereo audio hehe |
| 06:02.15 | fishhead | well just a dac out |
| 06:02.19 | fishhead | 2 channel stereo |
| 06:02.28 | jbevren | nod |
| 06:02.33 | jbevren | stereo is 2 channels yeah |
| 06:02.36 | jbevren | ;-) |
| 06:02.49 | joe_bleau | What's a USB physical layer interface chip look like? 14 pin do it? |
| 06:02.50 | J4k3 | cd audio = T1 = 1.5 mbit |
| 06:03.18 | jbevren | joe_bleau: on the gp2x, there's no real phy adapter |
| 06:03.21 | jbevren | so I dunno |
| 06:03.22 | joe_bleau | Hey, if it's meant to be USB, maybe I can find +5 and ground? |
| 06:03.30 | jbevren | the gp2x just needs caps and resistors for bus termination |
| 06:03.31 | J4k3 | ye |
| 06:03.32 | J4k3 | er yep |
| 06:03.40 | jbevren | joe_bleau: yeah |
| 06:03.40 | J4k3 | unless thats a 5v vreg thats missing ;) |
| 06:03.51 | jbevren | it probably has 5v |
| 06:03.53 | jbevren | its old enough |
| 06:04.00 | fishhead | jbe no I mean't the bw needed for 2 channel stereo |
| 06:04.03 | jbevren | check the outputs of the three regs present :) |
| 06:04.04 | fishhead | :P |
| 06:04.10 | jbevren | fishhead: I was teasing :P |
| 06:04.35 | joe_bleau | No +5 on any of the four pins. |
| 06:04.41 | fishhead | hell think |
| 06:04.43 | fishhead | if we got 2 gpio pins |
| 06:04.48 | jbevren | joe_bleau: hrm |
| 06:04.49 | fishhead | this could be a cheap reset ether device |
| 06:04.52 | fishhead | you login |
| 06:04.59 | fishhead | use it to flip the reset or power cycle your crashed router |
| 06:05.39 | fishhead | i wonder how much ram psybnc needs to work well |
| 06:05.50 | jbevren | 50mhz cpu I think |
| 06:05.52 | joe_bleau | Two of the four lines run to the missing chip, and there's a cap between the two lines |
| 06:05.58 | jbevren | fishhead: small webserver with cgi |
| 06:06.21 | fishhead | ethernet webcam hidden in woman's locker room |
| 06:06.22 | fishhead | :) |
| 06:06.30 | jbevren | calm down |
| 06:06.56 | fishhead | oh please anyone who knows me as the guy that would be trying to put the clothes back on the stripper |
| 06:07.00 | fishhead | I am too modest etc |
| 06:08.37 | jbevren | I wonder if you could lift the ram and flash IC's to drop larger-capacity ones in |
| 06:08.41 | joe_bleau | 850: no fpu? |
| 06:08.44 | jbevren | the pads seem built for it |
| 06:08.59 | fishhead | wish I could do tha with my 286 |
| 06:09.05 | fishhead | SOIJ's on it I think |
| 06:09.13 | jbevren | the mpc850 does not have an fpu, |
| 06:09.15 | joe_bleau | Didya see U3 in the closeup |
| 06:09.25 | jbevren | http://ozlabs.org/pipermail/linuxppc-embedded/2002-September/008399.html |
| 06:09.47 | jbevren | which one's u3? |
| 06:10.05 | joe_bleau | Top left in the closeup, MIA |
| 06:10.05 | jbevren | u2's the nic |
| 06:10.17 | fishhead | doesn't usb also usually need it's own XTAL |
| 06:10.23 | jbevren | eh? |
| 06:10.30 | jbevren | fishhead: depends on the implementation |
| 06:10.40 | jbevren | the gp2x has an internal generator for its usb core |
| 06:10.51 | jbevren | (the usb core is on the SoC) |
| 06:10.52 | fishhead | would you stop talking about your gayboy |
| 06:11.02 | jbevren | joe_bleau: where's u3? |
| 06:11.05 | joe_bleau | U3 is currently an empty spot next to the existing flash |
| 06:11.17 | fishhead | gp2x game console crap |
| 06:11.19 | joe_bleau | closeup photo: top left corner |
| 06:11.25 | jbevren | that's not the top left |
| 06:11.38 | fishhead | I should sell off my jb's and get some of these |
| 06:11.39 | joe_bleau | Doh, I spun it 180 to read the PPC part number |
| 06:11.40 | jbevren | ::) |
| 06:11.51 | jbevren | you cant read upside down? :P |
| 06:11.54 | fishhead | i can't |
| 06:12.05 | fishhead | spacial part of my brain is misdeveloped |
| 06:12.12 | jbevren | joe_bleau: guesses at what it is? |
| 06:12.12 | fishhead | stuff like having to read upside down |
| 06:12.24 | fishhead | or stack papers when they are both upside down and rotaed |
| 06:12.27 | jbevren | fishhead: are you dyslexic too? (not an insult) |
| 06:12.28 | fishhead | = AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 06:12.31 | fishhead | no |
| 06:12.34 | jbevren | strange |
| 06:12.34 | fishhead | but sometimes I feel like it |
| 06:12.39 | jbevren | normally those go hand in hand |
| 06:12.39 | joe_bleau | alternate flash package |
| 06:12.45 | jbevren | joe_bleau: ah |
| 06:12.54 | jbevren | joe_bleau: iw as looking at the extra set of legs above u7 actually |
| 06:13.01 | joe_bleau | Same thing on the sdram--they designed for any common package |
| 06:13.02 | jbevren | er lands |
| 06:13.09 | jbevren | the 4M chip is wider than the 2 |
| 06:13.54 | joe_bleau | Two designators: U7 and U926 |
| 06:14.09 | joe_bleau | I'll bet there are two patterns, offset half chip width |
| 06:14.23 | joe_bleau | One may be a reversed pinout |
| 06:14.36 | jbevren | possibly |
| 06:14.50 | jbevren | how many layers do you think are in the board? |
| 06:14.51 | fishhead | is this freaking insanity or what |
| 06:14.55 | jbevren | looks like maybe 4 |
| 06:14.57 | fishhead | $17.99 for a b/w palm lcd |
| 06:14.59 | fishhead | for IIIxe/IIIx |
| 06:15.05 | fishhead | but $10 for a color one for IIIc |
| 06:15.19 | jbevren | fishhead: higher demand for the bw |
| 06:15.42 | joe_bleau | More. Looks like 6 or 8 from the edge |
| 06:18.56 | jbevren | hm |
| 06:19.03 | jbevren | ever heard of the conexant brazos cpu? |
| 06:20.12 | joe_bleau | The front bezel is punched for the missing leds, but the plastic legend covers the holes |
| 06:20.51 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=ACC10974 |
| 06:20.53 | fishhead | uhh bullshit? |
| 06:21.17 | jbevren | no idea on the brazos I guess |
| 06:21.50 | joe_bleau | Pactec box, as in the wiggler case! |
| 06:22.25 | jbevren | joe? |
| 06:22.29 | jbevren | fishhead: I agree |
| 06:22.36 | jbevren | fisH; sounds like the cold heat iron ;-) |
| 06:22.37 | joe_bleau | Yeah? |
| 06:22.42 | jbevren | <joe_bleau> Pactec box, as in the wiggler case! |
| 06:22.48 | jbevren | the plastics mfr? |
| 06:22.53 | fishhead | na the cold heat iron works |
| 06:23.04 | fishhead | problem is it's induction system will *CANUCK* anything electronic |
| 06:23.05 | joe_bleau | The router uses an off-the-shelf plastic enclosure. |
| 06:23.18 | jbevren | joe_bleau: ahh |
| 06:23.39 | joe_bleau | Just happened to notice that the Macraigor wiggler also uses a pactec enclosure |
| 06:23.42 | fishhead | I might buy a $10 mp3 player that can read sd/mmc cards |
| 06:23.46 | fishhead | the juicebox is unbearable |
| 06:23.56 | joe_bleau | For some reason I find that funny. |
| 06:24.14 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CES10558 |
| 06:24.15 | fishhead | hmm |
| 06:25.55 | jbevren | fishhead: supports sd cards, nice find |
| 06:26.07 | fishhead | tempting but I duno |
| 06:26.10 | fishhead | i seen cheaper |
| 06:26.53 | joe_bleau | jbevren: did you have any backdoor admin passwords for the cayman? |
| 06:27.03 | jbevren | joe_bleau: no :( |
| 06:27.16 | jbevren | the cayman I have configures via appletalk |
| 06:27.29 | jbevren | and the software has a factory reset function that work swith a jumper inside the box |
| 06:27.43 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/IMAGES_PRODUCT/CPM10325_MD.JPG |
| 06:27.44 | fishhead | damn |
| 06:27.46 | jbevren | basically, you stick it in firmware update mode, and it clears the config |
| 06:27.57 | fishhead | didn't prpp say you could use smartmedia for juicebox hacking |
| 06:28.04 | fishhead | cause they have 8 meg for $8.99 |
| 06:28.27 | jbevren | yeah. afaik the jb is built for nand flash |
| 06:28.31 | jbevren | smartmedia is nand flash |
| 06:28.38 | fishhead | also for $209 4 gig sd :P |
| 06:28.58 | fishhead | check this |
| 06:28.59 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CPM10326 |
| 06:29.09 | jbevren | joe_bleau: you havent tried the space or ctrl-c thing? |
| 06:30.11 | joe_bleau | Testing now. |
| 06:30.41 | jbevren | a refurb sd card? |
| 06:30.43 | jbevren | I dunno |
| 06:30.46 | fishhead | wonder if this could be hacked to accept a stream of mp3 |
| 06:30.47 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CES10936 |
| 06:30.56 | joe_bleau | No diff, still boots |
| 06:31.56 | jbevren | joe :( |
| 06:32.27 | joe_bleau | No biggie, you can still admin/configure it |
| 06:32.43 | joe_bleau | I was hoping for a vxworks backdoor, like on the old Speedstream DSL modems |
| 06:32.43 | jbevren | joe_bleau: waht COS version? |
| 06:32.57 | jbevren | oh, looking to bypass the firmware shell? |
| 06:33.12 | joe_bleau | 6.3.0, build R2. I think build R7 is the latest |
| 06:34.07 | joe_bleau | I dunno, just futzing around. Once I script the debugger to dump the CPU config, I'll own it. |
| 06:35.38 | jbevren | apparently the coolsat's brazos cpu doesnt exist |
| 06:37.12 | fishhead | I need to buy anti static bags :/ |
| 06:38.43 | fishhead | SOAN |
| 06:38.44 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=TOL10177 |
| 06:38.54 | fishhead | i PAID $8 circuit city and it only does standard size cans |
| 06:40.13 | fishhead | hey those digital calipers worth having ? |
| 06:40.45 | jbevren | ok must sleep |
| 06:40.49 | jbevren | zzz. |
| 06:40.56 | fishhead | yeah me too |
| 06:41.31 | fishhead | wow |
| 06:41.37 | fishhead | bday for mom and dad or anniversary |
| 06:41.41 | fishhead | they are both blind |
| 06:42.56 | fishhead | WHY IS IT THAT EVERYONE ONLY SELLS FUCKING ROUNDED IDE CABLES |
| 06:43.02 | J4k3 | they're both blind and you're nutty... I'm starting to see an environmental issue. |
| 06:43.20 | fishhead | not my biological father dude |
| 06:43.30 | fishhead | but his side of the family, half of them were in jail for DUI |
| 06:43.33 | J4k3 | hence the environmental issue |
| 06:43.41 | J4k3 | they're both blind, but your biological father isn't |
| 06:43.47 | J4k3 | and you're a nut |
| 06:44.10 | J4k3 | you grew up across the street from a steel mill, correct? |
| 06:44.11 | fishhead | yep |
| 06:44.14 | fishhead | many |
| 06:44.21 | fishhead | like within blocks of each other |
| 06:44.31 | fishhead | I remeber when the old machine shop caught fire |
| 06:44.34 | fishhead | blackness everything |
| 06:44.55 | fishhead | j4k3 http://flyback.databurn.net/pmac_bw |
| 06:45.00 | fishhead | also brighton steel |
| 06:45.12 | J4k3 | dude |
| 06:45.16 | J4k3 | no wonder |
| 06:45.24 | fishhead | but this was age 7 |
| 06:45.30 | fishhead | I already had problems early age |
| 06:45.31 | J4k3 | I wonder if theres anything left of your liver |
| 06:46.24 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 06:46.31 | fishhead | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CES10575 |
| 06:58.16 | J4k3 | fishhead: my RAID card overheats |
| 06:58.23 | J4k3 | it needs forced air or a heatsink |
| 06:58.34 | fishhead | wtf |
| 06:58.38 | fishhead | are you ocing the fsb ? |
| 06:58.45 | J4k3 | its a common problem with these |
| 06:58.48 | J4k3 | check it out |
| 06:58.58 | fishhead | I can't right now bro |
| 06:59.00 | fishhead | I am in deep shit |
| 06:59.15 | fishhead | my colon is starting to buck again |
| 06:59.19 | J4k3 | well.. I went to install kubuntu (I'm playing around).... it overheated about 10 minutes into it |
| 06:59.26 | fishhead | I am going to head to bed, I might come back on bedroom pc |
| 06:59.30 | J4k3 | of course installing kubuntu is a *lot* of I/O |
| 06:59.35 | J4k3 | fun |
| 06:59.39 | J4k3 | colons are teh fun |
| 06:59.46 | fishhead | yeah it's great feeling poisoned |
| 07:00.16 | J4k3 | I think I'm going to use a low profile heatsink I have and some 33/33/33 arctic silver epoxy mix |
| 07:00.31 | J4k3 | 33 pt A, 33 pt B, 33 regular arctic silver |
| 07:00.40 | J4k3 | makes it so it is removable, but it requires effort. |
| 07:00.59 | J4k3 | fucking adaptec sticks a sticker right in the middle of the chip too |
| 07:01.00 | J4k3 | asshats |
| 07:08.36 | fishhead | magnesium citrate has been injested |
| 07:08.47 | fishhead | EXPLOSIVE DECOMPRESSION HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED |
| 07:09.08 | fishhead | YOU GO to hell and you die |
| 07:10.51 | fishhead | I LOVE B MOVIE HR 2AM |
| 07:10.54 | fishhead | SPIKE TV |
| 07:57.48 | J4k3 | fishhead is going to clense his colon |
| 07:57.50 | J4k3 | from the inside out |
| 08:04.57 | fishhead | http://sres.anu.edu.au/associated/fpt/nwfp/quinine/Quinine.html |
| 08:05.07 | fishhead | http://sres.anu.edu.au/associated/fpt/nwfp/quinine/Quinine.htmlwow |
| 08:05.15 | fishhead | never knw ts |
| 08:05.37 | fishhead | I get charlie horses sometimes |
| 08:06.15 | fishhead | my dady gave me this pill |
| 08:06.15 | fishhead | quinine |
| 08:06.15 | fishhead | never knew tonxic water has this |
| 08:06.15 | fishhead | and hence the name |
| 08:06.16 | fishhead | it canucks malaria |
| 08:08.55 | J4k3 | lots of reasons to get cramps |
| 08:09.22 | fishhead | I know but I foudn out 2 days ago ti swy grandma buys it |
| 08:09.27 | fishhead | it's a freaking med |
| 08:09.43 | fishhead | I thought tonic water was just this thing you xed with booze |
| 08:10.08 | fishhead | in facft it's got the sme stoy s asprin almost |
| 08:10.20 | fishhead | that's cool |
| 08:10.49 | fishhead | in fact it might become valiable even more now |
| 08:10.59 | fishhead | drug resistant strain of malaria |
| 08:11.09 | fishhead | quinin still canucks it |
| 08:11.19 | fishhead | this lag is too bad see you tomarrow |
| 08:17.46 | fishhead | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinine |
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| 08:31.42 | fishhead | btw |
| 08:31.50 | fishhead | thast router 5 for $230 |
| 08:31.54 | fishhead | $20 |
| 08:32.00 | fishhead | goodnight |
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| 13:20.49 | black_Nightmare | dunno if this is OT or not but how funny would it be if the oven could say "HELL" if you had set it to Hi? :-> (I mean..its quite hot no?) |
| 13:26.46 | prpplague | black_Nightmare: uh yea OT |
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| 13:50.46 | jbevren | yawn. |
| 13:51.43 | prpplague | i really really don't like that guy |
| 13:53.39 | jbevren | morning ken, prpp |
| 13:54.30 | prpplague | morning |
| 13:55.19 | GPSFan | jbevren: prpplague: good morning.. |
| 13:55.33 | jbevren | did you catch the chatter about joe's toy? |
| 13:56.12 | prpplague | no |
| 13:56.15 | prpplague | what up? |
| 13:56.26 | jbevren | mpc850 cayman router for $5 |
| 13:56.29 | jbevren | fetching link |
| 13:56.54 | jbevren | http://jbevren.net/cayman/ has joe's pictures of the board |
| 13:57.02 | jbevren | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=NET10330 |
| 13:57.03 | jbevren | there it is |
| 13:57.12 | jbevren | its a prety old unit |
| 13:57.51 | prpplague | ahh yea i saw those the other day |
| 13:58.17 | prpplague | i wondered what was inside |
| 14:04.32 | prpplague | i'm just not into ppc stuff |
| 14:08.21 | GPSFan | jbevren: you have any luck getting a userland running with any of the 2.6 kernels for the DHT? |
| 14:09.16 | jbevren | I havent tried(?) |
| 14:10.34 | JoseJX | GPSFan: I'm currently running a Gentoo uclibc userland with a 2.6 kernel on my walnut |
| 14:10.44 | GPSFan | well pRamdisk from DENX runs ok, but none of the ones I built will run, they just hang after starting init. they all run ok on 2.4, and the DENX one runs ok on 2.4, got me stumped.. |
| 14:11.30 | JoseJX | GPSFan: Perhaps its a console issue, are they switching the console in init? |
| 14:13.33 | GPSFan | I don't know. it seems that rcS isn't getting run, 'cause if I put "ifconfig eth0 ipaddr" in inittab, I can ping to box, but if I put it in rcS or later it doesn't. |
| 14:16.59 | jbevren | is the shell's uclibc breaking on the kernel? |
| 14:17.03 | jbevren | er |
| 14:17.07 | jbevren | too tired to say it6 right heh |
| 14:17.18 | GPSFan | JoseJX: does your Gentoo build use busybox, and what version of uClibc are you using? |
| 14:17.45 | jbevren | they ported gentoo to uclibc? |
| 14:18.06 | JoseJX | jbevren: Yeah, it's been available for a long time. |
| 14:18.22 | jbevren | JoseJX: Bacchus was talking about it for his indy |
| 14:19.01 | JoseJX | GPSFan: Yes, I'm using busybox and uClibc 0.9.28 |
| 14:19.36 | GPSFan | ah, built under which cross tools? |
| 14:19.45 | JoseJX | GPSFan: I built it natively. |
| 14:20.16 | JoseJX | GPSFan: I'm using gcc-3.4.4 on my PPC box here |
| 14:21.02 | JoseJX | GPSFan: The only issue I ran into with using the existing ppc stages was that they were compiled expecting an FPU |
| 14:21.21 | JoseJX | GPSFan: Adding FPU emulation support into the kernel let me boot it |
| 14:23.39 | JoseJX | If you're interested in the stages, they're on Gentoo's mirrors in the experimental dirs, but the ones there are somewhat old. |
| 14:23.47 | GPSFan | my cross env is buildroot for the 2.6 kernel I used 3.4.2, binutils 2.16.90.0.3 and busybox 1.1.0. However I've had the same probelem with busybox built with gcc 2.95 and uClibc 0.9.26. |
| 14:23.58 | JoseJX | If you want to ask the people who built it, #gentoo-embedded |
| 14:24.04 | jbevren | I have yet to have a buildroot .. build |
| 14:24.40 | GPSFan | JoseJX: thanks I may ask over there after I wake up a bit. |
| 14:25.01 | JoseJX | GPSFan: They've got a script that will do the gentoo building for you if you're interested |
| 14:25.16 | JoseJX | Working with a source based distro does have some advantages. :) |
| 14:28.34 | GPSFan | the thing is things work so well for all my kernel 2.4 stuff. I've used the same userland framework for ARM, MIPS, X86, PPC. in kernels from 2.4.18-2.4.31. I really like my cross development environment, and don't really want to have to resort to building natively. Some platforms I'm using just don't have the horsepower to do that. |
| 14:31.20 | GPSFan | It's also somewhat of the challenge, if your native build works, then bb & uClibc 0.9.28 can work on the DHT. therfore there is something wrong with the way I'm building/configuring... so the challenge is to get that working. |
| 14:42.10 | JoseJX | I can give you bb + uclibc binaries if you'd like |
| 14:42.54 | GPSFan | JoseJX: that would be great, I'd have a working example to play with... |
| 14:43.19 | JoseJX | Do you want the whole environment? It's a bit large, I haven't taken out the dev tools yet |
| 14:43.32 | GPSFan | how big? |
| 14:43.52 | JoseJX | Unpacked it's about 200Mb, I have no idea how big it would be packed |
| 14:44.14 | JoseJX | er |
| 14:44.16 | JoseJX | 300Mb, sorry |
| 14:44.58 | GPSFan | hmm, that's a bit large how bout just the bb binary, and the /lib directory. |
| 14:48.06 | JoseJX | http://dev.gentoo.org/~josejx/405gp/ |
| 14:49.54 | JoseJX | The bz2's are gentoo "packages", basically regular tar.bz2 files with some stuff tacked onto the end. |
| 14:50.22 | JoseJX | And I stuck the /lib directory up there for you too |
| 14:51.51 | JoseJX | And that uImage in there is the 2.6.15 kernel I built myself. |
| 14:56.07 | GPSFan | for some reason I can't get the uImage, got the rest ok. |
| 14:57.20 | JoseJX | An error? |
| 14:57.27 | JoseJX | 403 or something? I'll check perms |
| 14:57.57 | GPSFan | I'll try it out in a bit, gotta run out for a while. no error, I only get about 110k of it and firefox wants to rename it as an html. |
| 14:58.15 | JoseJX | I renamed it uImage.bin |
| 14:58.18 | JoseJX | That might help |
| 14:58.31 | JoseJX | Or just use wget |
| 14:58.45 | JoseJX | http://dev.gentoo.org/~josejx/405gp/uImage.bin |
| 14:59.07 | GPSFan | that got it, thanks.. |
| 14:59.37 | GPSFan | bbl.. |
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| 16:53.23 | charolastra | hi |
| 17:10.55 | dfarnsworth | ohsix ? |
| 17:38.20 | GPSFan | JoseJX: you still about? |
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| 17:48.03 | GPSFan | JoseJX: very interesting, my bysbyox, et. al. runs fine with your kernel, your busybox, et. al. won't run with my kernek. So it seems that there is a kernel config issue on my end. |
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| 18:09.45 | JoseJX | GPSFan: You want my kernel config? |
| 18:11.05 | GPSFan | JoseJX: I'd love it, thanks.. |
| 18:14.23 | JoseJX | GPSFan: There's my config. I haven't done much beyond NFS booting, so I'm not sure if anything else hardware wise works, but it should get you started. |
| 18:14.32 | JoseJX | http://dev.gentoo.org/~josejx/405gp/walnut.config |
| 18:15.14 | GPSFan | JoseJX: gotit, thanks again, I'll let you know what I find. |
| 18:15.31 | JoseJX | GPSFan: My guess is that your kernel is missing the FPU emulation, but that's the only thing I can think of |
| 18:21.46 | GPSFan | JoseJX: I'm building a kernel with your config, it's compiling now.. |
| 18:25.59 | GPSFan | works fine with my userland!! |
| 18:26.46 | GPSFan | it's a bit bigger than yours, but that is probably the 3.4.2 vs 3.4.4 gcc |
| 18:27.02 | JoseJX | Great :) |
| 18:27.14 | JoseJX | Glad I could help |
| 18:27.16 | GPSFan | thanks much.. |
| 18:27.56 | JoseJX | Mind doing a diff between your config and mine so we can see what the difference was? |
| 18:28.32 | GPSFan | I will.. |
| 18:30.43 | GPSFan | lots of stuff, will take a bit to figure out where the problem actually is I got the orig config from here: http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut2%2e6LinuxKernel?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=config.2.6.15.4-walnut-df2 |
| 18:32.50 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: thanks for all your work on the wiki, the uboot, and kernel 2.6 stuff. there seem to be a few issues with the kernel, I've never built a 2.6 kernel for embedded stuff before and have been having a few problems. |
| 18:34.12 | dfarnsworth | ok. I'm comparing configs now. I'm just curious. For my config, I started with the default config for the IBM walnut and added a few things |
| 18:34.24 | JoseJX | dfarnsworth: Yeah, that's what I did as well. |
| 18:36.16 | dfarnsworth | GFSFan, what are you using for root device? |
| 18:37.17 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: I ran into the problem with the DENX 2.6 kernel first, then thought it was my busybox/uClibc stuff because when I built from your config I had the same problems. btw your original uImage was 2.6.16-rc2 not 2.6.15. |
| 18:38.48 | dfarnsworth | yes, I noticed that later and replaced it with 2.6.15 image. I forgot where I was in git. |
| 18:38.59 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: my rootfs images (for this excercise) is loaded via tftp at c00000 then bootm 400000 c00000 |
| 18:39.37 | dfarnsworth | ok, ramdisk then |
| 18:40.25 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: I had fits with 2.6.16-rc2, it's make menuconfig kept corrupting my /dev/null. finally found the notes in the changelog for rc3. |
| 18:41.16 | dfarnsworth | I remember reading about that. I don't use menuconfig. Just edit .config and run make oldconfig |
| 18:44.46 | dfarnsworth | GFSFan, sorry about using -rc2 and calling it 2.6.15 |
| 18:46.45 | jbevren | thats actually a toolchain bug |
| 18:46.47 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: np, although I didn't find out about the /dev/null corruption untill the next day, thought I had hozed my desktop box. took a while to figure out, then I found that rc-3 had come out. |
| 18:46.59 | jbevren | there's a sanity check in another gentoo package that uses gcc -o /dev/null file.c |
| 18:47.06 | jbevren | gcc will remove /dev/null and put an a.out binary there |
| 18:47.15 | GPSFan | jbevren: indeed.. |
| 18:47.31 | jbevren | I think it was procps that kept smashing /dev/null on my origin 200 |
| 18:47.37 | GPSFan | the os doesn't like to be booted with /dev/null as a regular file. |
| 18:49.59 | dfarnsworth | that's a nasty problem |
| 18:50.38 | jbevren | granted, it should be safe to do that |
| 18:50.47 | jbevren | but using a device node as an object file is .. I dunno :) |
| 19:07.37 | dfarnsworth | GPSFan, yep, JoseJX was right, I bet your userland uses FP, so you need CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y |
| 19:07.50 | jbevren | aha |
| 19:07.52 | jbevren | I bet it does |
| 19:07.56 | dfarnsworth | I use a 405-specific userland that doesn't user FP |
| 19:08.02 | jbevren | it was originally built for the a3000 board |
| 19:08.11 | jbevren | I built my kernel with fp support |
| 19:08.15 | jbevren | software fp that is |
| 19:08.25 | jbevren | GPSFan: considering you borrowed my config, you'd have it on as well |
| 19:09.25 | JoseJX | Yeah, my userland does use FP because it's a generic ppc32 UL, that's what I figured his problem was. :) |
| 19:09.34 | dfarnsworth | I'm going to rebuild with CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y and repost an image on the wiki |
| 19:09.41 | fishhead | so what did I miss? |
| 19:09.48 | fishhead | you guys make any headway on that $5 router |
| 19:09.53 | fishhead | btw they have five packs for $20 |
| 19:10.01 | jbevren | they do now?\ |
| 19:10.02 | jbevren | hrm :) |
| 19:10.23 | fishhead | if you guys confirm a gpio, serial port or usb port |
| 19:10.25 | fishhead | i'm there |
| 19:10.36 | fishhead | as long as it has something I can bump the real world with |
| 19:11.17 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:11.29 | jbevren | fishhead: well, the pcmcia pads are surrounded by a set of lands for bus transcievers |
| 19:11.33 | fishhead | 2 meg ram going to suck though so we will have to get creative |
| 19:11.34 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.39 | fishhead | meaning ? |
| 19:11.39 | jbevren | I'm sure there's enough bus to add stuff |
| 19:12.00 | fishhead | how much smt work does that take though :/ |
| 19:12.03 | jbevren | fishhead: if linux is used, it'll be a -very- small kernel :) |
| 19:12.30 | fishhead | well I did once hack a 1.09 kernel i think to run on 1.6 meg of ram |
| 19:12.48 | fishhead | had to give it swap boot arg, took 15 mins to boot and 24 hrs to make a kernel, but it did run |
| 19:12.58 | fishhead | 486slc-25 2 meg ram (1.6 thanks to lame shadowing) |
| 19:13.01 | fishhead | laptop |
| 19:13.14 | fishhead | samba will be an issue :/ |
| 19:13.20 | fishhead | so might psybnc :/ |
| 19:13.38 | fishhead | oh well I guess I will use the webpal for samba and psybn |
| 19:14.29 | fishhead | I need to find a 72 pin simm 32 meg 2k refresh for it |
| 19:16.17 | fishhead | I guess for a $5 ethernet control app |
| 19:16.22 | fishhead | I should just stfu and be happy |
| 19:16.31 | fishhead | or I geuss we could run ecos on them |
| 19:16.32 | fishhead | hmm |
| 19:19.02 | GPSFan | jbevren: dfarnsworth: that's probably the problem, I'm going through the configs step by step. |
| 19:21.22 | fishhead | man I used to be good at this stuff |
| 19:21.29 | fishhead | then some med freaked it up or I just snapped, I dunno :/ |
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| 19:24.13 | fishhead | j4k3 |
| 19:24.20 | fishhead | are there any good pcmcia wireless cards |
| 19:24.24 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 19:24.27 | J4k3 | Prism 2-based |
| 19:24.36 | jbevren | linksys wpc-11 rev.3 |
| 19:24.37 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:24.39 | J4k3 | like the Senao 2511CD or whatever |
| 19:24.41 | fishhead | cause those $5 routers might have pcmcia bus |
| 19:24.59 | fishhead | need some major soldering work though :/ |
| 19:25.07 | fishhead | and I dunno how well you can route with 2 meg ram |
| 19:25.27 | fishhead | wonder if we can hack the kernel to exec out of FLASH |
| 19:25.55 | prpplague | fishhead: ahh i was thinking that solderpad was for a pci slot |
| 19:26.04 | prpplague | fishhead: but i guess it could be for pcmcia as well |
| 19:26.05 | fishhead | well I dunno |
| 19:26.19 | fishhead | that was <jbevren> fishhead: well, the pcmcia pads are surrounded by a set of lands for bus transcievers |
| 19:26.24 | fishhead | so I don't have a clue :P |
| 19:26.29 | fishhead | we are talking about the caymen |
| 19:26.37 | fishhead | btw |
| 19:26.37 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:26.56 | fishhead | man I would be happy with freaking serial port rx and trx |
| 19:27.00 | fishhead | or a parallel port |
| 19:27.07 | fishhead | that instantely justifies $5 |
| 19:27.14 | fishhead | cause now I have |
| 19:27.14 | fishhead | ethernet |
| 19:27.17 | fishhead | 66 mhz ppc core |
| 19:27.32 | fishhead | way to talk to outside work or at least go "HELLO" |
| 19:28.27 | fishhead | and damn I am going deaf and blind |
| 19:28.29 | fishhead | :/ |
| 19:30.21 | jbevren | fishhead: I think this one's 50mhz |
| 19:30.31 | fishhead | ok 50mhz |
| 19:30.35 | fishhead | still powerful :) |
| 19:30.37 | fishhead | picky shit |
| 19:30.38 | jbevren | not sure, but the chip code seems to indicate 50 |
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| 19:30.47 | fishhead | :P |
| 19:30.49 | jbevren | knock it off, punchy |
| 19:30.50 | fishhead | CANUCK! |
| 19:31.11 | fishhead | prpplague, btw they have a pack |
| 19:31.11 | fishhead | buy 4 get one free |
| 19:31.13 | fishhead | or 5 for $20 |
| 19:31.44 | prpplague | hehe cute |
| 19:31.55 | J4k3 | isn't that CPU |
| 19:31.56 | J4k3 | a dragonball? |
| 19:32.02 | prpplague | fishhead: i already blew my hack money on a pixterMM |
| 19:32.04 | jbevren | dragonballs are m680x0 |
| 19:32.08 | fishhead | hehe |
| 19:32.10 | jbevren | these are ..whats the name |
| 19:32.14 | fishhead | j4k3 hell no |
| 19:32.14 | jbevren | freescale. |
| 19:32.20 | J4k3 | I have that same CPU in a cisco |
| 19:32.21 | fishhead | dragonball is like 286/386 speed |
| 19:32.29 | J4k3 | I know that... Cisco 804 |
| 19:32.30 | fishhead | dragonball was not used in cisco |
| 19:32.31 | fishhead | too slow |
| 19:32.42 | fishhead | dragonball was extreme low power version of m68k |
| 19:32.45 | jbevren | um |
| 19:32.47 | J4k3 | fishhead: wanna bet? they were still selling 2501's in '99 |
| 19:32.49 | fishhead | for palm and deep low power embedded |
| 19:32.50 | fishhead | dude |
| 19:32.51 | J4k3 | 2501 = 030/20 |
| 19:32.53 | jbevren | the cisco 2500s use the 16mhz 68030 ;-) |
| 19:32.53 | fishhead | no |
| 19:32.57 | fishhead | thaty's not dragonball |
| 19:33.00 | fishhead | that's normal m68k |
| 19:33.02 | jbevren | so? they used a cpu that slow ;-) |
| 19:33.04 | J4k3 | so? |
| 19:33.08 | J4k3 | exactly. |
| 19:33.10 | jbevren | the ubr924 uses a dragonball iirc |
| 19:33.17 | fishhead | IT'S NOT FUCKING DRAGONBALL DRAGONBALL IS LIKE CENTRNO |
| 19:33.18 | jbevren | I have one |
| 19:33.25 | fishhead | NOW SHUT THE CANUCK UP OR I WILL KILL YOU ALL |
| 19:33.26 | fishhead | :P |
| 19:33.27 | jbevren | fishhead: knock it off puncy. |
| 19:33.37 | J4k3 | you ain't killing shit except yourself every day |
| 19:33.41 | J4k3 | stfu, flynub. |
| 19:33.42 | fishhead | dude |
| 19:33.43 | jbevren | we appreciate your conversation, but we dont need your noise. |
| 19:33.43 | fishhead | I am kidding |
| 19:33.48 | fishhead | hence the :P |
| 19:33.49 | fishhead | geez |
| 19:33.58 | jbevren | and I'm really tired of your canuck bullshit |
| 19:34.15 | fishhead | and I am tired of you being tired of stuff |
| 19:34.35 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.55 | fishhead | lack of respect? |
| 19:35.17 | jbevren | throwing punches, yelling about, etc |
| 19:35.17 | agaffney | fishhead: acting like a fucktard == blatant lack of respect |
| 19:35.29 | fishhead | man |
| 19:35.30 | *** part/#edev fishhead (i=gerber@unaffiliated/fishhead) |
| 19:35.48 | jbevren | lots of enthusiasm in that kid |
| 19:35.50 | jbevren | badly placed tho |
| 19:35.53 | agaffney | wtf is wrong with him? :P |
| 19:35.59 | jbevren | agaffney: mental disorder |
| 19:36.01 | jbevren | no really |
| 19:36.09 | agaffney | o_O |
| 19:36.25 | agaffney | I wonder if he acts like that in real life |
| 19:36.32 | jbevren | found it |
| 19:36.38 | jbevren | agaffney: he likely doesnt get out much |
| 19:36.41 | jbevren | I used to be the type |
| 19:36.48 | jbevren | I still sorta am, but managed to fix my behavior |
| 19:38.34 | prpplague | oops sorry guys, i wasn't paying attention or else i would have kicked him |
| 19:39.03 | prpplague | if him or someone else starts misbehaving please message me or gpsfan |
| 19:39.31 | prpplague | he's on disability |
| 19:41.12 | J4k3 | prpplague: yeah, flyback's supposed to msg you today to get me banned :D |
| 19:41.24 | jbevren | sok |
| 19:41.31 | jbevren | we dont like flyback any more than you |
| 19:41.32 | prpplague | J4k3: oh what for? |
| 19:41.34 | jbevren | lol |
| 19:41.41 | jbevren | so if you go so does he :P |
| 19:41.46 | jbevren | j/k :) |
| 19:43.46 | dfarnsworth | GPSFan, if you get a chance, would you test http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut2%2e6LinuxKernel?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=uImage.2.6.15.4-walnut-df3 on your userland? Thanks. |
| 19:44.20 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: sure it'l be a few minutes.. |
| 19:49.03 | J4k3 | prpplague: fishhead got himself banned in #openwrt for being a nazi racist shit... then decided to rattle in here, I told him to STFU, he got all pissy ;) |
| 19:51.48 | prpplague | J4k3: when did this happen? |
| 19:51.56 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: boot ok, matrox fb seems to work as does usb storage. |
| 19:52.06 | jbevren | yay heh |
| 19:52.12 | dfarnsworth | great. thanks for trying it. |
| 19:52.20 | jbevren | I want to get a lot (say, 10) of 4M matrox 1 or 2's |
| 19:52.55 | GPSFan | dfarnsworth: np, I was just about to that point myself, you seem to have turned on more usb messages than I. ;>) |
| 19:53.33 | agaffney | millenium IIs, iirc |
| 19:53.37 | jbevren | I'm using a 2megger atm |
| 19:53.42 | jbevren | it gets 1152x864 16bpp |
| 19:53.49 | jbevren | with around 150k vram to spare :) |
| 19:54.00 | agaffney | I think these are 4MB |
| 19:54.06 | jbevren | nod |
| 19:54.23 | agaffney | I've also got some quad-port ethernet cards coming |
| 19:54.25 | prpplague | J4k3: should n't have said anything, now that i'm looking over the logs you and fishhead have to go |
| 19:54.32 | jbevren | I have a quad-tulip |
| 19:55.02 | *** mode/#edev [+b *!*@*.intrastar.net] by prpplague |
| 19:55.02 | *** kick/#edev [J4k3!n=billybob@72.22.149.78] by prpplague (prpplague) |
| 19:55.16 | jbevren | apparently the ban reason was valid? heh |
| 19:55.35 | agaffney | what did he do? |
| 19:56.02 | prpplague | uh yea, i looked at three days of logs and all the foul language , rudeness to people and such |
| 19:56.15 | prpplague | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23edev/ |
| 19:56.25 | prpplague | you are welcome to look over the logs |
| 19:56.53 | agaffney | I was just curious |
| 19:57.18 | GPSFan | jbevren: hey usb keyboard works after a fashion too |
| 19:57.44 | prpplague | agaffney: np, i don't take kicking/banning lightly |
| 19:57.47 | GPSFan | doesn't deal with cr's |
| 19:58.07 | prpplague | agaffney: i don't want ppl to be afraid to join the channel and get accosted |
| 19:59.10 | jbevren | GPSFan: how much of a fashion :) |
| 20:00.09 | GPSFan | jb hitting enter results it a lf, but no cr on the screen. |
| 20:01.07 | GPSFan | jbevren: function keys don't work,neither do numpad keys. |
| 20:01.32 | *** mode/#edev [+b fishhead!*@*] by prpplague |
| 20:03.23 | agaffney | prpplague: understandable |
| 20:05.26 | jbevren | GPSFan: it's a start :) |
| 20:06.12 | GPSFan | jbevren: yep, I'll look at it a bit more later gotta run off again.. cul. |
| 20:07.57 | *** mode/#edev [-b J4k3!*@*] by prpplague |
| 20:10.38 | *** mode/#edev [-b *!*@*.intrastar.net] by prpplague |
| 20:11.25 | *** join/#edev J4k3 (i=j4k3@dhcp-12-197-128-55.intrastar.net) |
| 20:14.03 | *** mode/#edev [+o jbevren] by prpplague |
| 20:14.35 | prpplague | i suspect the noise to signal ratio will drop considerably as now fishhead has been removed |
| 20:15.37 | prpplague | please keep language civil |
| 20:17.43 | prpplague | dfarnsworth: since he'd been banned on just about every other channel i figured i'd give him a chance but he's long since worn it out |
| 20:18.38 | prpplague | gotta head out for the day, later folks |
| 20:19.07 | prpplague | jbevren: oh and if Chocobo drops in, please let him know fishhead has been removed |
| 20:19.23 | jbevren | ok |
| 22:24.06 | sunrunner20 | J4k3: like your any better you stupid fuck |
| 22:25.03 | *** part/#edev sunrunner20 (n=jamesdoe@carrell27.august.net) |
| 22:25.43 | agaffney | ... |
| 22:28.14 | J4k3 | I dunno what caused that |
| 22:35.21 | ohsix | dfarnsworth: aye? |
| 22:35.59 | dfarnsworth | I think the reason u-boot didn't find the net port is that you didn't have an ethaddr env. var. |
| 22:36.30 | jbevren | uboot should complain about the var not being set |
| 22:36.58 | dfarnsworth | jbevren, I agree, but it doesn't. :( |
| 22:37.18 | ohsix | dfarnsworth: ah |
| 22:37.47 | dfarnsworth | if it's not set, all I see is: "Net: No ethernet found." |
| 22:38.10 | ohsix | i thought the same thing, so i setenv'd it and messed with the mii command and it didn't do anything |
| 22:38.28 | ohsix | so when i unbrick it, if i saveenv an ethaddr it should work on reset? |
| 22:38.33 | dfarnsworth | I added a note to the wiki page. |
| 22:38.48 | dfarnsworth | yes. |
| 22:38.54 | ohsix | k neat |
| 22:38.55 | dfarnsworth | did you brick it? |
| 22:39.27 | ohsix | yea 2 days ago |
| 22:40.06 | dfarnsworth | just to be clear, u-boot's not in flash now? |
| 22:40.09 | ohsix | radioshack doesn't have hardly anything anymore either, so i've got to wait for a 244 in the mail |
| 22:40.15 | ohsix | right |
| 22:40.33 | dfarnsworth | k |
| 22:40.49 | ohsix | fff80000 - ppcboot112, fffc0000 - ppcboot116, if i had to guess how it ended up |
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| 22:46.53 | jbevren | wb |
| 22:55.35 | *** join/#edev rx700 (i=rs485@c-67-165-88-141.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 22:55.54 | jbevren | <walmart> Welcome! </walmart> |
| 23:07.50 | *** join/#edev inv_ (n=inv@host35.180.219.81.magma-net.pl) |
| 23:23.27 | jbevren | out for the night, etc |
| 23:26.33 | *** join/#edev ohsix (i=ohsix@bc111222.bendcable.com) |
| 23:29.42 | GPSFan | jbevren: the cr/lf issue on the usb kbd is solved by typing "stty sane" still no Fn keys, but that's probably a keymap issue. |
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