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| 00:50.57 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 00:51.35 | sunrunner20 | -_- |
| 00:51.37 | sunrunner20 | this is terrable |
| 00:51.40 | sunrunner20 | been sorting ebooks for ages |
| 00:51.44 | sunrunner20 | only ~50% done |
| 00:56.18 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: ping |
| 00:56.49 | GPSFan | joe_bleau: pong.. |
| 00:57.08 | joe_bleau | Hey, do you remember what mods you had to make to do a ram resident ppcboot? |
| 00:57.36 | joe_bleau | Thinking of testing ppcboot or u-boot on this router |
| 00:58.02 | GPSFan | there were several, let me see if I have a patch against the orig sources. |
| 00:58.24 | joe_bleau | I suspect it was just disabling some of the init code, right? |
| 01:05.29 | GPSFan | the difference between the ram version & the flash version is it's location, and in not init'ing the mem controller. the patch to the original ppcboot1.1.6 sources is 800k... aw crap there are too many test files left in the ram based directory. must not have made the patch correctly. |
| 01:05.52 | joe_bleau | Location I can deal with, as I've moved u-boot around in flash. |
| 01:06.29 | joe_bleau | It's the init I wasn't sure about |
| 01:08.55 | GPSFan | in cpu/ppc4xx/spd_sdram.c you need to comment out 2 lines near line#406 |
| 01:09.51 | GPSFan | sdram0_cfg=0; and mtsdram0(mem_mcopt1,sdram0_cfg); |
| 01:10.12 | GPSFan | I guess you really need to comment out the second one. |
| 01:10.45 | joe_bleau | OK, I'll try that in a bit. |
| 01:11.30 | joe_bleau | Thanks! |
| 01:11.57 | GPSFan | that keeps you from configuring the sdram controller. it also means that you have to be sure the sdram controller is set up right by the jtag. |
| 01:12.17 | joe_bleau | Not a problem. I know I can do it on the 405. |
| 01:12.24 | GPSFan | good. |
| 01:12.28 | joe_bleau | I've not yet done it on the '850, but I'll let the router OS hangle it. |
| 01:12.35 | joe_bleau | s/hangle/handle/ |
| 01:13.05 | GPSFan | you using uboot/ppcboot on your little router? |
| 01:13.47 | joe_bleau | I thought I'd try building it. Haven't yet, though |
| 01:13.53 | joe_bleau | I still have a bit of residual confidence from my u-boot hacking |
| 01:15.14 | GPSFan | the problem that commenting out those lines fixes is that the sdram controller can only be programmed when it is disabled. so ppcboot shuts it off by writing a 0 to the config reg. if the program is running from ram... bye-bye.. |
| 01:15.29 | GPSFan | bbl |
| 01:18.26 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I think I get it. We'll see in a bit! |
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| 15:36.40 | cougarvt | has anyone here wired up an xD card to a juicebox cart? |
| 15:37.26 | cougarvt | is the pinout on the wiki wrong? the picture and table don't match (i.e. the pic shows xD pin 15 going to ground) |
| 15:46.40 | cougarvt | oh i see. xD pin 15 is listed twice |
| 16:42.35 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: ping...do you remember patching any of the relocation stuff for a ram resident ppcboot? |
| 16:43.13 | joe_bleau | Looks like u-boot is relocating some of the old stuff from flash, instead of my ram code |
| 16:43.39 | joe_bleau | (I mod'd the "FLASH:" prompt to "FL!SH:", but the console still shows "FLASH:", which ain't in my image! |
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| 17:11.01 | nerdboy | jeezus, it's like i'm married to agaffney ... |
| 17:11.10 | nerdboy | mornin' |
| 17:32.47 | agaffney | o_O |
| 17:33.02 | agaffney | nerdboy: take out the trash, honey |
| 17:34.48 | agaffney | nerdboy: what fun embedded devices do you have? |
| 17:38.25 | nerdboy | hmm, a zaurus 5000D, a kurobox HG, and a no-name walnut board |
| 17:38.35 | nerdboy | and a slug box |
| 17:46.13 | agaffney | that walnut board from bgmicro.com? |
| 17:48.16 | agaffney | a lot of people in here have that walnut board |
| 18:00.20 | nerdboy | yup, wormo and i each bought two |
| 18:01.05 | agaffney | JoseJX and I have been working with them with ppc uclibc stages |
| 18:01.23 | agaffney | hint: don't put -mcpu=405 in your CFLAGS |
| 18:01.33 | agaffney | gcc apparently generates some code that's not quite right |
| 18:02.28 | nerdboy | version dependent? |
| 18:02.33 | agaffney | dunno |
| 18:02.50 | agaffney | I've only tried 3.4.4 (maybe 3.4.5) |
| 18:02.59 | agaffney | I don't know what version JoseJX was using |
| 18:03.41 | nerdboy | maybe the 3.3 series works |
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| 18:05.37 | agaffney | nerdboy: I was using ppc stable |
| 18:05.52 | agaffney | I didn't really feel like downgrading gcc and dealing what that "fun" |
| 18:06.28 | nerdboy | i still have 3.3.5 installe di think |
| 18:06.44 | nerdboy | don't use it much lately |
| 18:06.47 | agaffney | I'm using vapier's recently build uclibc stages |
| 18:08.13 | nerdboy | powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-3.4.4 on the kurobox |
| 18:17.26 | nerdboy | looks like there's no 3.3 version even marked ppc |
| 18:17.50 | nerdboy | 3.2.3 or something |
| 18:18.08 | nerdboy | gcc-3.2.3-r4 is the previous stable |
| 18:18.36 | agaffney | wow, that's a bit old |
| 18:18.51 | nerdboy | what about glibc and kernel headers? |
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| 18:19.08 | agaffney | nerdboy: the current stable works just fine |
| 18:19.43 | nerdboy | i have 2.6 kernel on the kurobox, but it's still 2.4 headers |
| 18:19.53 | agaffney | his new stages are up at d.g.o/~vapier/uclibc/ |
| 18:20.20 | nerdboy | so are you mounting / via nfs? |
| 18:20.23 | agaffney | yes |
| 18:20.29 | agaffney | rw |
| 18:20.35 | agaffney | works well enough |
| 18:20.48 | agaffney | eventually, I'll move the system over to a ro CF card |
| 18:21.17 | nerdboy | not going to use the IDE connector? |
| 18:21.27 | agaffney | I've got a IDE->CF adapter |
| 18:22.06 | nerdboy | got a new kernel image? |
| 18:23.43 | agaffney | I've got one I've been using |
| 18:23.59 | agaffney | http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut2%2e6LinuxKernel |
| 18:24.03 | agaffney | the one there is good as well |
| 18:24.22 | agaffney | my kernel is basically the same with drivers added for ens137[01] |
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| 18:30.19 | Pablo | omg |
| 18:30.21 | Pablo | wtf |
| 18:30.23 | Pablo | bbq |
| 18:31.10 | nerdboy | agaffney: what kernel source did you use? |
| 18:31.19 | nerdboy | vanilla with patches? |
| 18:31.24 | agaffney | vanilla 2.6.15 |
| 18:32.12 | nerdboy | the kuro needs some patches for the clock chip and ppc types |
| 18:33.25 | nerdboy | i take it you built a stripped-down monolithic kernel image? |
| 18:34.48 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: I think I see the problem: CFG_MONITOR_BASE confusion. It (u-boot) is running from ram on the Walnut now. Next stop: MPC850 |
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| 18:37.37 | agaffney | nerdboy: yeah, no modules |
| 18:39.18 | agaffney | nerdboy: the walnut doesn't have a clock and everything else seems to work fine |
| 18:39.29 | agaffney | aside from some weirdness I'm seeing with the ens1371 on it |
| 18:39.34 | GPSFan | joe_bleau: great, been busy, are you going to post patches to the wiki? |
| 18:39.47 | joe_bleau | What should I base them on? |
| 18:39.48 | prpplague | howdy folks |
| 18:39.50 | prpplague | whats cookin? |
| 18:39.58 | ZeZu | whats up prpplague |
| 18:40.31 | agaffney | 'lo GPSFan, prpplague |
| 18:40.33 | prpplague | nada |
| 18:40.34 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: you certainly got me pointed the right way. Thanks. |
| 18:40.41 | GPSFan | joe_bleau: what did you start with? I'd do a combined patch including dfarnsworth's changes. |
| 18:40.46 | prpplague | just came in to clean my desk and get organized for a long week |
| 18:40.53 | GPSFan | lo, prpplague, agaffney... |
| 18:41.59 | ZeZu | prpplague, you ever do anything more w/ that juicebox hardware, i still have one sitting here in piece in my desk k |
| 18:42.05 | ZeZu | pieces * |
| 18:42.09 | ZeZu | never bought a jtag |
| 18:42.20 | prpplague | ZeZu: yea, we are actually starting back with that now |
| 18:42.35 | prpplague | ZeZu: there is a new pixter out that is even better |
| 18:42.47 | cougarvt | glad to hear it. i finally found time to hook up an xD card to a juicecart |
| 18:42.48 | ZeZu | i'd play with it but i dont think i'll be fucking w/ the jtag |
| 18:43.04 | ZeZu | solder points are a bit toooo small for me |
| 18:43.14 | Pablo | hey where is that fishhead at |
| 18:43.18 | prpplague | ZeZu: bummer |
| 18:43.24 | prpplague | ZeZu: jtag is pretty important |
| 18:43.29 | prpplague | Pablo: banned |
| 18:43.53 | Pablo | why? |
| 18:44.13 | ZeZu | fishface = flyback = annoying as hell |
| 18:44.25 | Pablo | right |
| 18:44.47 | prpplague | Pablo: too many problems |
| 18:45.14 | Pablo | :P |
| 18:47.21 | cougarvt | have any of you used a non-mp3 cart for the juicebox? |
| 18:47.47 | ZeZu | its just mmc isn't it ? |
| 18:47.53 | cougarvt | i got a video cart cheap and have wired my xD card to that. |
| 18:48.06 | cougarvt | er yeah - the 'mp3 kit' |
| 18:48.29 | joe_bleau | cougarvt: yeah, my SM/MMC adapter is wired to an old video cart |
| 18:48.37 | ZeZu | video would have to be the same other than it doesn't accept the SD card then |
| 18:48.48 | joe_bleau | Make that SM/xD |
| 18:49.01 | cougarvt | excellent |
| 18:49.15 | cougarvt | looking at the pinout it seems the right pins are already pulled up |
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| 18:49.45 | ZeZu | prpplague, whats better about the new pixter ? |
| 18:50.02 | cougarvt | what state is program_flash in these days? |
| 18:56.44 | nerdboy | agaffney: looks like the denx guys are using gcc 4 |
| 19:01.54 | prpplague | ZeZu: its based on the LH79524 which is an arm720t, meaning it has an mmu and can run full linux |
| 19:02.20 | ZeZu | how is it accessed ? |
| 19:02.29 | ZeZu | err, i mean how can i run code on it ? |
| 19:02.52 | prpplague | cougarvt: its has a little bit rot |
| 19:03.00 | prpplague | cougarvt: i've been swampped for months now |
| 19:03.09 | prpplague | cougarvt: should have some more free time soon |
| 19:03.29 | joe_bleau | Might be nice to have another little rush of JB hacking |
| 19:03.37 | nerdboy | they use newer crosstool stuff, but olde 2.4 kernel sources |
| 19:03.40 | joe_bleau | Seems like the interest has built back up a little bit |
| 19:03.53 | nerdboy | ye olde kernel... |
| 19:04.10 | prpplague | joe_bleau: yea |
| 19:04.38 | prpplague | joe_bleau: that linuxdevices.com post was nice |
| 19:05.33 | joe_bleau | prpplague: yeah, nice to see Mr. Riker finally get some recognition for all his effort on the JB hack |
| 19:05.38 | joe_bleau | :-) |
| 19:05.42 | prpplague | hehe yea |
| 19:05.58 | joe_bleau | Wonder how he's coming on that new pixter thingy. |
| 19:06.08 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:06.16 | joe_bleau | Sorry, I'm just kidding around. |
| 19:06.35 | prpplague | joe_bleau: hehe, np, tim has been in the past a good contributor |
| 19:06.41 | prpplague | joe_bleau: work ya knwo |
| 19:06.56 | joe_bleau | Oh yeah. I've seen the logs and the older stuff. |
| 19:07.11 | joe_bleau | That phone hack was impressive |
| 19:07.25 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:07.49 | cougarvt | i'm down for the next jb rush. we are getting hammered at work so i haven't had much time for it either but... |
| 19:08.21 | joe_bleau | I'm trying to decide if I want to do a PWB for the xD card |
| 19:08.35 | prpplague | i've got anout 90% of the work done on a buildroot for the jb |
| 19:08.48 | prpplague | i also have some new hardware as well |
| 19:09.14 | cougarvt | nice. i am in the concept phase of a embedded hacking board that was going to be designed for the jb to start |
| 19:09.14 | joe_bleau | prpplague: did you ever release the raw nand linux driver for the xD adapter? |
| 19:09.58 | joe_bleau | I never finished up the nand write code, either. |
| 19:11.06 | cougarvt | most of these embedded projects seem to involve ps232, jtag, and NAND so i am planning on building a kit that incorporates all of those things plus and easy way to access the onboard flash from a pc |
| 19:12.21 | cougarvt | is there any existing products already that do this? i don't need to make one if i can buy one (on the cheap) |
| 19:12.58 | prpplague | joe_bleau: the driver i'm using is just part of the mtd stuff |
| 19:13.27 | prpplague | cougarvt: my new hardware designs are using the FT-2232 as a base |
| 19:13.45 | cougarvt | will it be an open design? |
| 19:13.49 | joe_bleau | prpplague: for the Fuji DPC-R1, right? |
| 19:13.49 | prpplague | cougarvt: since the chip supports SPI, rs-232 , jtag, and an address buss stuff |
| 19:13.57 | prpplague | joe_bleau: ?? |
| 19:14.11 | prpplague | cougarvt: yea the design is pretty open already |
| 19:14.27 | cougarvt | where is it at? |
| 19:14.31 | prpplague | one sec |
| 19:14.36 | joe_bleau | http://alauda.sourceforge.net/wikka.php?wakka=SupportedDevices |
| 19:14.47 | prpplague | http://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/2232m.shtml |
| 19:14.59 | prpplague | joe_bleau: ahh no i gave up on those |
| 19:15.04 | prpplague | joe_bleau: they were too specialized |
| 19:15.13 | prpplague | joe_bleau: the ft-2232 is much more versatile |
| 19:15.24 | prpplague | joe_bleau: i can have one device for doing alot of things |
| 19:15.33 | joe_bleau | Yeah, but I have the DPC-R1! |
| 19:15.42 | prpplague | joe_bleau: hehe |
| 19:16.01 | prpplague | joe_bleau: i'll still post the driver as i get time for it |
| 19:16.18 | joe_bleau | Sounds like I'd be the only one to use it, so why bother? |
| 19:16.38 | prpplague | joe_bleau: hehe |
| 19:16.48 | prpplague | joe_bleau: still good for parts |
| 19:16.52 | joe_bleau | I'll just go back to my plan of copying from MMC to NAND through the JB |
| 19:17.02 | joe_bleau | Oh, it works under windows just fine, so I do use it. |
| 19:17.15 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 19:17.31 | prpplague | joe_bleau: i was planning to gut mine and insert the ft-2232 inside |
| 19:18.38 | prpplague | anyone got an s3c2410 based board? |
| 19:18.40 | cougarvt | yeah i like the FTDI chips. i've been wanting to use one for some time now |
| 19:19.17 | joe_bleau | bbl |
| 19:19.22 | prpplague | joe_bleau: ok |
| 19:19.40 | cougarvt | any devices you know of that have one in it? i'd like to get an ARM6 |
| 19:19.44 | cougarvt | er arm9 |
| 19:20.06 | prpplague | cougarvt: www.littlechips.com |
| 19:21.38 | cougarvt | yeah, it's those price tags that kill me. i don't make enough to support my embedded habit :( |
| 19:22.05 | cougarvt | i just try to convince my bosses to get the kits i want for whatever jobs we're working on |
| 19:22.49 | prpplague | btdt |
| 19:22.57 | prpplague | cougarvt: hehe we just make our own now |
| 19:23.11 | prpplague | cougarvt: we just brought up a s3c2410 based dimm card this past week |
| 19:24.46 | cougarvt | i don't have the skills for making arm boards yet (at least not that i know of) |
| 19:25.03 | cougarvt | i make my own whenever i can but haven't gone past 20MHz uCs |
| 19:25.38 | cougarvt | that's why i buy things like the jb - can't get an arm7 kit for $20 |
| 19:26.21 | cougarvt | i'll be able to soon though |
| 19:27.05 | cougarvt | alright - i'm not getting any work done so i may as well head home. bbl |
| 19:29.48 | joe_bleau | I think a JB based alarm clock would be fun |
| 19:30.02 | prpplague | hehe that would be cute |
| 19:30.21 | joe_bleau | Wake up to an MP3 file, slowing ramping up in volume. |
| 19:30.27 | joe_bleau | Use the LCD for an analog clock display |
| 19:31.50 | prpplague | yea that would be interesting |
| 19:32.28 | joe_bleau | Are the pixterMM LCD specs known? TFT vs. DSTN? resolution? size? bit-depth? |
| 19:32.31 | prpplague | joe_bleau: what i really need is some method of easily replacing CoB's on boards that we hack |
| 19:32.40 | prpplague | joe_bleau: no not yet |
| 19:32.55 | joe_bleau | Wonder if it's much better than the semi-murky JB display |
| 19:33.03 | prpplague | joe_bleau: still checking things out |
| 19:33.11 | prpplague | joe_bleau: no, from what i gather it wasn't |
| 19:33.47 | joe_bleau | then I take it jbevnren the only hacker with a pixterMM in hand? |
| 19:34.08 | agaffney | nerdboy: denx? |
| 19:34.53 | prpplague | joe_bleau: at the momment |
| 19:34.58 | prpplague | joe_bleau: mine is in customs |
| 19:35.08 | prpplague | joe_bleau: hopefully have it by the end of next week |
| 19:35.11 | joe_bleau | I don't think he's jtag + OCD commander, yet. |
| 19:35.19 | prpplague | joe_bleau: no not yet |
| 19:35.23 | joe_bleau | I'd build a config dump macro if I knew someone could run it |
| 19:35.26 | prpplague | joe_bleau: but he has identified the jtag pins |
| 19:35.32 | joe_bleau | Then we'd know a lot. |
| 19:35.37 | prpplague | joe_bleau: yea |
| 19:35.42 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I was in channel when he put it on the scan chain |
| 19:35.46 | prpplague | that was my plan |
| 19:39.45 | nerdboy | http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG |
| 19:40.29 | prpplague | nerdboy: u-boot? |
| 19:40.36 | prpplague | nerdboy: hehe i much prefer apex |
| 19:40.47 | prpplague | nerdboy: u-boot tries to be everything to everyone |
| 19:41.19 | agaffney | nerdboy: gcc-3.4.4 works fine with generic CFLAGS (-Os -pipe) |
| 19:41.28 | agaffney | it just does weird things when you throw in -mcpu=405 |
| 19:43.03 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 19:43.14 | prpplague | i have so much to do and i'm totally unmotivated today |
| 19:44.20 | agaffney | the ens1371 just doesn't want to work right |
| 19:44.22 | agaffney | with alsa or oss |
| 19:44.27 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:44.29 | agaffney | it's kind weird |
| 19:44.47 | agaffney | it only accepts audio input at half speed to /dev/dsp |
| 19:44.52 | agaffney | which doesn't play |
| 19:45.03 | agaffney | alsa throws up and oopses |
| 19:45.09 | agaffney | oss just silently fails |
| 19:45.15 | agaffney | the card itself works fine |
| 19:45.24 | agaffney | I had it in my x86 workstation previously |
| 19:45.42 | agaffney | and mpg321 decodes mp3 at full speed when I output to stdout, so that's not the problem |
| 19:45.55 | agaffney | but when outputting to the audio device, it only decodes at half speed |
| 19:46.10 | prpplague | is everyone here using buildroot for their devices? |
| 19:46.19 | agaffney | buildroot? |
| 19:46.27 | prpplague | buildroot.busybox.net |
| 19:46.48 | prpplague | we really need to get one the same page with that so we can share in the benefits |
| 19:47.11 | agaffney | I'm using a gentoo uclibc stage3 generated by catalyst |
| 19:47.16 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:47.25 | agaffney | over nfsroot |
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| 19:52.20 | agaffney | the 9 year old 19" I have in my bedroom is dying |
| 19:52.36 | agaffney | all of a sudden last night, there was a lot more red in the picture |
| 19:52.47 | agaffney | and every few minutes, all the other colors will disappear and I'll get red on black |
| 19:52.54 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe bad caps probably |
| 19:53.11 | prpplague | agaffney: gonna get a cheappy one? |
| 19:53.16 | prpplague | agaffney: or spend sopme $$ |
| 19:53.18 | agaffney | turning it off and on gets it back to the "normal" |
| 19:53.25 | prpplague | agaffney: yea thats caps |
| 19:53.33 | agaffney | probably a ~$175 24" |
| 19:53.44 | agaffney | I don't need anything big |
| 19:53.49 | agaffney | especially since it's in the bedroom |
| 19:54.12 | agaffney | prpplague: hmm...how "fixable"? |
| 19:54.36 | agaffney | I'm not *too* terrible with a soldering iron |
| 19:57.17 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe, well if you had a good supply of caps, you could replace all the caps pretty quick |
| 19:57.40 | prpplague | agaffney: i'd say unless you are really intent on fixing it, its worth your time to just buy a new one, hehe |
| 19:58.09 | agaffney | no supply of caps |
| 19:58.24 | agaffney | and I've got the extra money to buy a new one |
| 19:58.59 | agaffney | http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3757023 |
| 19:59.05 | agaffney | I think that's what I'm going to get |
| 19:59.59 | prpplague | agaffney: looks nice |
| 20:00.23 | prpplague | agaffney: one thing i always want to see is the remote control, and they never have a picture of it |
| 20:01.34 | agaffney | doesn't matter too much |
| 20:01.37 | prpplague | agaffney: i was thinking about making an entire entertainment system (as well as other stuff) that runs totally on 12vDC |
| 20:01.46 | agaffney | I've got satellite, so I use that remote primarily |
| 20:02.05 | prpplague | agaffney: have a couple deep cycle 12v batteries, plus some solar cells, and a windmill |
| 20:02.10 | prpplague | agaffney: ahh |
| 20:02.28 | agaffney | a windmill? :P |
| 20:02.32 | agaffney | heh |
| 20:11.26 | prpplague | agaffney: yea we have lots of wind here |
| 20:11.36 | prpplague | agaffney: kind of thinking about hurricane season |
| 20:11.56 | prpplague | agaffney: last time a hurricane came through barbados the power was out for about a week |
| 20:15.24 | nerdboy | wouldn't that tend to blow down your windmill? |
| 20:15.52 | prpplague | nerdboy: hehe yea, thats why you make it so you can store it |
| 20:16.13 | prpplague | nerdboy: about 40% of the ppl here use windmill power |
| 20:16.23 | prpplague | nerdboy: about 90% have solar water heaters |
| 20:16.36 | prpplague | nerdboy: and about 90% use LPG for their stoves |
| 20:17.09 | prpplague | nerdboy: so... the only things i'd need to worry about is lights, and radio/tv/dvd for news and enterainment |
| 20:17.57 | agaffney | windmill-powered pr0n! |
| 20:18.09 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:19.17 | prpplague | http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/DVD-101/search/12VDC_MOBILE_DVD_CD_MP3_PLAYER_W_REMOTE_.html |
| 20:20.20 | prpplague | and get about 6 of these - http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/SPL-6012/565/12V_SOLAR_PANEL__CHARGER_.html |
| 20:28.12 | nerdboy | agaffney: are you making a car audio player? |
| 20:28.30 | prpplague | nerdboy: was that question for me? |
| 20:28.46 | prpplague | nerdboy: or regarding the walnut board? |
| 20:30.47 | agaffney | nerdboy: thinking more about a networked mp3 player hooked to my stereo |
| 20:31.06 | agaffney | I'd like to do something with my truck, but I really have no idea what |
| 20:31.48 | nerdboy | why did you choose the ensoniq card? |
| 20:32.28 | nerdboy | well, sb128 or whatever you want to call it |
| 20:32.29 | agaffney | because I already had it :P |
| 20:32.37 | agaffney | it was in my workstation |
| 20:32.43 | agaffney | I switched to my onboard sound and took it out |
| 20:33.06 | agaffney | I've got a ens1370 on the way |
| 20:33.15 | agaffney | because I didn't think the onboard sound was supported yet |
| 20:33.26 | agaffney | so maybe it will work better than my ens1371 |
| 20:37.53 | nerdboy | i had one of each floating around for a while |
| 20:38.05 | nerdboy | can't think of where they are atm |
| 20:47.51 | nerdboy | what's the softfloat image for? |
| 21:05.57 | agaffney | that's the one I'm using |
| 21:06.10 | agaffney | I think it has fp emulation in uclibc |
| 21:06.36 | agaffney | my kernel has fp emulation in it, though |
| 21:06.49 | agaffney | so does the one on the wiki |
| 21:08.56 | agaffney | I need one of those for the "agaffney needs machines for gentoo installer development/testing" |
| 21:09.14 | agaffney | I just spent $350 on a dual G4 450MHz tower |
| 21:11.50 | sunrunner20 | o.0 |
| 21:11.54 | sunrunner20 | though you had a wife |
| 21:12.45 | prpplague | sunrunner20: and your point being? |
| 21:13.14 | sunrunner20 | moral qualms with nudiy bar while married |
| 21:13.52 | prpplague | sunrunner20: hehe |
| 21:14.45 | prpplague | sunrunner20: just because you are on a diet doesn't mean you can't window shop at the candy store |
| 21:15.07 | agaffney | haha |
| 21:15.21 | agaffney | a wise philosophy |
| 21:15.31 | nerdboy | maybe his wife goes with him |
| 21:21.43 | cougarvt | can you verify my serial settings for the jb? i am using 115200 8N1 with no hard/software control |
| 21:22.09 | prpplague | yep |
| 21:22.12 | cougarvt | shoot |
| 21:22.14 | prpplague | that should be the correct |
| 21:25.47 | cougarvt | i have wired an xD card into a video cart and removed the OTP that was onboard. however the jb just ignores my cart when i starts |
| 21:26.12 | cougarvt | makes sense since there is no bootloader/info on the flash yet i s'pose |
| 21:26.42 | sunrunner20 | wait |
| 21:26.50 | sunrunner20 | don't we have to keeep the otp onboard? |
| 21:27.14 | joe_bleau | If you want to boot frmo NAND, yes. |
| 21:27.23 | joe_bleau | s/frmo/from/ |
| 21:27.34 | cougarvt | not sure. i am under the impresson that the video carts don't use uClinux |
| 21:28.13 | sunrunner20 | but you can boot from nor flash? |
| 21:28.41 | joe_bleau | Wait, I'm confused. Are y'all talking about the rom chip on the cart, or inside the JB? |
| 21:28.45 | prpplague | cougarvt: the video carts do not use uclinux |
| 21:29.00 | joe_bleau | You need the one inside the JB for bootrom, but you don't need the rom on the cart if you wire in NAND flash. |
| 21:29.12 | prpplague | cougarvt: did you test it with the test app to see if it seeing the xD |
| 21:29.13 | cougarvt | joe:i am talking about the OTP on the cart |
| 21:29.34 | cougarvt | prpp: i haven't done that yet. i just stuck my cart in the jb and started it |
| 21:29.35 | prpplague | cougarvt: the one on the cart has to be disconnecte |
| 21:29.48 | sunrunner20 | the origional otp, I wan't to replace it w/ something i can reprogram, so i can have a serial port |
| 21:29.48 | prpplague | cougarvt: and what did you expect it to do? |
| 21:29.51 | cougarvt | i'm trying to reread all that i had before since i've been away from this for so long |
| 21:30.42 | cougarvt | i didn't expect much but wasn't sure - just wanted to first verify that my issue was not with minicom |
| 21:30.44 | prpplague | cougarvt: unless you have a copy of a bootloader on the xD, its not gonna do anything |
| 21:31.28 | cougarvt | there is a copy of the bl in the jb though correct? |
| 21:31.33 | sunrunner20 | heh |
| 21:31.36 | prpplague | cougarvt: yea |
| 21:31.44 | cougarvt | ok - so i just need to copy it |
| 21:31.48 | prpplague | cougarvt: but you need a method to copy the data onto the xd |
| 21:32.19 | prpplague | you either have to jtag it on or use some extenal method |
| 21:32.34 | cougarvt | i can jtag it but need to figure out how |
| 21:32.51 | prpplague | cougarvt: see joe_bleau's apps |
| 21:32.52 | cougarvt | i remember reading about it but not sure where |
| 21:33.00 | prpplague | cougarvt: on the wiki |
| 21:33.06 | prpplague | gotta run for today |
| 21:33.08 | prpplague | be back tomorrow |
| 21:33.12 | cougarvt | ty |
| 21:33.16 | joe_bleau | take care |
| 21:33.21 | prpplague | later folks |
| 21:36.00 | sunrunner20 | hmm |
| 21:36.05 | sunrunner20 | xd is decently cheap |
| 21:38.54 | JoseJX | nerdboy: I think we had some weird issues with gcc 3.3 on ppc. I think that's why we skipped marking it stable. |
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