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| 01:40.23 | joe_bleau | Hmm. jtager doesn't seem to like my Olimex wiggler |
| 02:01.33 | GPSFan | joe_bleau: just tried the ubootram image, found a few issues. 1) baudrate is 115200 not 9600 as in ppcboot. 2) the recovery_config.mac needs a reset halt at the beginning, 3) it doesn't seem to like my 64M sdram, but runs fine from cold start with my 32M. |
| 02:02.38 | GPSFan | I think the issue with the 64M existed with ppcboot1.16 as well, probably the setup in the recovery macro. |
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| 02:08.00 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: hmm. I don't think I have any double sided dimms to test with tonight, but I have some at work. |
| 02:08.32 | joe_bleau | I left it at 115200 because all the other u-boot stuff is 115200, I think. |
| 02:08.58 | GPSFan | the 64 isn't double sided, it works fine with other stuff, the 115200 is fine as long it's documented. |
| 02:09.40 | joe_bleau | Wow. |
| 02:09.46 | GPSFan | oh, and if you don't catdh the autoboot timeout, it takes a while to recycle. |
| 02:10.10 | GPSFan | ah, ctrl C works to interrupt it. |
| 02:10.20 | joe_bleau | ctrl+c is your friend. |
| 02:10.23 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 02:10.34 | joe_bleau | Hey, can you dump the config when you have your 64MB up and running? |
| 02:11.10 | GPSFan | you mean use the dump_config.mac macro? |
| 02:11.14 | joe_bleau | Yes. |
| 02:12.21 | GPSFan | sure just a min... |
| 02:14.21 | joe_bleau | OK, I see how to kill the autoboot stuff, too. |
| 02:14.47 | GPSFan | it generates some errors, doesn't set logging on properly, bbiab, gotta eat some dinner.. |
| 02:15.10 | joe_bleau | OK, thanks. |
| 02:43.59 | GPSFan | joe_bleau: ok, it was my fault, got the 64M config for you. |
| 02:44.58 | joe_bleau | target running? |
| 02:45.04 | joe_bleau | I've done that a few times |
| 02:45.27 | GPSFan | no, I think I tried to name the log file the same as the macro. ;P |
| 02:46.06 | GPSFan | was pre-occupied with dinner comming in a few minutes.. |
| 02:46.24 | joe_bleau | I see some differences in timing. |
| 02:46.32 | joe_bleau | And one bank config change |
| 02:46.39 | GPSFan | should be the 64M is a pc100 |
| 02:46.55 | joe_bleau | If we can't figure it out, the docs may have to require using the original 32MB dimm. |
| 02:47.12 | joe_bleau | I don't see any easy way to probe the memory from inside OCD |
| 02:47.43 | GPSFan | yeah, everyone should have one of those, and this process should be before the board is put to real use. |
| 02:48.34 | joe_bleau | You still had a bunch of OCD errors near the end of the log. |
| 02:48.38 | joe_bleau | Wonder what that's all about |
| 02:50.05 | GPSFan | don't know, I didn't write that macro.. |
| 02:50.37 | joe_bleau | I just ran it on mine |
| 02:50.49 | GPSFan | any pci cards present? |
| 02:51.09 | joe_bleau | Nope. |
| 02:51.15 | GPSFan | you running uboot or ppcboot |
| 02:51.20 | joe_bleau | uboot |
| 02:51.36 | joe_bleau | The errors occured when you tried to access the CPU debug registers |
| 02:51.37 | GPSFan | let me run it again without the pci cards. |
| 02:52.07 | joe_bleau | Hey, help/about and check ocd version |
| 02:52.19 | joe_bleau | I'm running 2.4.6 |
| 02:52.41 | GPSFan | 2.4.1 |
| 02:52.51 | joe_bleau | Ah, that could be it. |
| 02:53.11 | GPSFan | you probably got the latest from your work? |
| 02:53.16 | joe_bleau | You sdram banks are set to 32MB, mine are 16MB. |
| 02:53.36 | GPSFan | mine should be for a single sided 64M sdram. |
| 02:54.43 | joe_bleau | Actually, I think there's a newer one out. |
| 02:54.59 | joe_bleau | So, if we change the recovery macro for your memroy, will it work with the stock config anymore? |
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| 02:55.48 | GPSFan | still get errors, I'll try to dl a newer version. I'd say we should leave the recover macro as is and specify the 32Msdram. |
| 02:56.17 | joe_bleau | Yeah, but I'm gonna try your memory config anyway. Standby. |
| 02:57.16 | GPSFan | sure, always good to know the alternates. |
| 02:57.30 | joe_bleau | My favorite fix was adding the entry point to the link script |
| 02:57.40 | joe_bleau | the debugger picks up the start address of 0x400100 |
| 02:58.21 | GPSFan | that's cool, I liked that too. |
| 03:00.20 | joe_bleau | Hmm. didn't seem to work. |
| 03:00.24 | joe_bleau | (As expected) |
| 03:02.58 | GPSFan | just got 2.4.9, no errors |
| 03:03.31 | GPSFan | you want the config? |
| 03:03.40 | joe_bleau | Don't think it matters. |
| 03:03.48 | GPSFan | k. |
| 03:04.47 | joe_bleau | Wish they'd fix the memtest bugs! |
| 03:06.00 | GPSFan | I wasn't aware they were actively developing ocd commander. |
| 03:06.04 | joe_bleau | I can fix the autoboot; and I think that's a big improvement |
| 03:06.32 | joe_bleau | I'm all for leaving the baud rate at 115200, unless you think it's more useful at 9600 |
| 03:06.49 | GPSFan | what's this about in the printenv? kernel_addr=fff80000 |
| 03:06.49 | GPSFan | ramdisk_addr=fff80000 |
| 03:06.57 | joe_bleau | And I think I'll add a note about using the stock 32MB dimm, as I don't think we want to open that can of worms |
| 03:07.03 | joe_bleau | No clue |
| 03:07.44 | GPSFan | 115200 is fine as long as it's stated in the instructions. since the stock ppcbooot1.12 was 9600 |
| 03:08.39 | agaffney | on the u-boot page of the wiki, it states that the default is 115200 where ppcboot was 9600 |
| 03:08.49 | joe_bleau | Well, if you're doing a recovery, you don't want to end up with a serial port you can't connect to |
| 03:08.59 | joe_bleau | I've got sparcs that won't do 115.2k |
| 03:09.07 | GPSFan | didn't dfarnsworth patch the memory stuff to be able to use one side of a 2 sided sdram? |
| 03:09.24 | joe_bleau | Yeah, think so. |
| 03:09.32 | agaffney | yes, uboot works with 1 side of *some* of my double-sided sticks |
| 03:09.33 | joe_bleau | His patch touched the sdram stuff, that's for sure. |
| 03:09.38 | agaffney | but not all |
| 03:09.49 | agaffney | and *I* can't see any pattern to what works and what doesn't |
| 03:10.27 | GPSFan | I found a single sided 128M that wouldn't work, but it does in my A3000 using ppcboot 1.1.6. one day I might try to figure that out. |
| 03:19.55 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: got any suggestions for the kernel_addr and ramdisk_addr? |
| 03:22.51 | GPSFan | I haven't studied uboot enough to know what they are for, but I don't think they should be the same, that said, the code does work, doesn't it... |
| 03:23.53 | joe_bleau | They're using in the environment |
| 03:24.01 | joe_bleau | I don't think anyone is using all those boot options |
| 03:28.43 | jbevren | yawn |
| 03:41.42 | jbevren | wee |
| 03:42.08 | jbevren | aicAdaptec 2930CU SCSI nicely recognized |
| 03:42.13 | jbevren | time to start building the scan-server |
| 04:00.05 | jbevren | xsane sure has gotten slow over the years heh |
| 04:07.34 | GPSFan | jbevren: this on your DHT? |
| 04:08.12 | jbevren | yeah |
| 04:08.39 | GPSFan | nice.. have you run a web browser under X on it? |
| 04:09.30 | jbevren | yeah |
| 04:09.34 | jbevren | wee |
| 04:09.45 | jbevren | 5-second 150dpi greyscale scan of a full sheet |
| 04:09.54 | GPSFan | Mozilla? how long to load |
| 04:10.00 | jbevren | longer than I want to wait |
| 04:10.01 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:10.42 | jbevren | I use one as a remote Xterminal |
| 04:10.47 | jbevren | its pretty reasonable in that setup |
| 04:10.52 | GPSFan | ah, I xcompiled links and it takes >3 minutes to load before it's ready to browse the web. |
| 04:11.04 | jbevren | links? |
| 04:11.06 | jbevren | like elinks? |
| 04:11.15 | jbevren | debian's firefox isnt that bad |
| 04:11.27 | jbevren | the first time it took a bit due to the normal new-user setup |
| 04:12.29 | GPSFan | http://links.twibright.com/ |
| 04:13.55 | jbevren | There's no way to recognize the browser from that website. |
| 04:14.28 | jbevren | fancy this |
| 04:14.33 | jbevren | screenshots arent on the about page |
| 04:14.34 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:14.57 | jbevren | how are you using links? |
| 04:15.03 | jbevren | text? graphics? |
| 04:15.10 | GPSFan | well links is the ncurses text based browser. run with the -g option uses the linux frame buffer driver. no X required. |
| 04:15.45 | jbevren | see, |
| 04:15.52 | GPSFan | It was an adventure to x compile. |
| 04:15.55 | jbevren | I dont even have a working console :) |
| 04:16.11 | jbevren | so the walnut's set up to run right to X |
| 04:16.33 | GPSFan | your debian install no doubt. ;>) |
| 04:16.41 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.58 | jbevren | oh, the installed software? |
| 04:17.01 | jbevren | yeah, debian/ppc standard |
| 04:17.04 | GPSFan | yeah. |
| 04:17.16 | GPSFan | how much hdd did it take up? |
| 04:17.21 | jbevren | hm |
| 04:17.23 | jbevren | I have a lot installed |
| 04:17.26 | jbevren | (relatively) |
| 04:17.38 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.52 | jbevren | cause I havent removed the packages Ive tested yet |
| 04:18.09 | jbevren | the SANE server will use nfsroot |
| 04:18.17 | jbevren | it wont run any local access |
| 04:18.30 | GPSFan | so it could fit on my 2.1G ... |
| 04:18.42 | jbevren | debian you mean? |
| 04:18.44 | jbevren | yeah |
| 04:18.47 | GPSFan | yeah |
| 04:18.50 | jbevren | if you dont install development stuff, base is <100M |
| 04:19.06 | jbevren | X is probably around 250M |
| 04:19.15 | jbevren | that doesnt include fanciness (kde, gnome) of course |
| 04:19.16 | GPSFan | yikes.. |
| 04:19.20 | jbevren | X is bloated |
| 04:19.28 | jbevren | but I included fonts in that:P |
| 04:19.44 | jbevren | 45M in /usr/X11R6 |
| 04:21.13 | jbevren | firefox is 25M |
| 04:21.15 | GPSFan | 64M sdram enough or do you have more? |
| 04:21.20 | jbevren | thats where all the space went |
| 04:21.38 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.43 | jbevren | doc 32M |
| 04:22.00 | jbevren | there's always emdebian (wonder if tahts still around) |
| 04:24.56 | GPSFan | I guess so, I've been doing embedded too long the system on my hdd is 36M and I think there is too much stuff. ;>) |
| 04:26.15 | jbevren | hm firefox is a bit pokey |
| 04:26.30 | jbevren | sane uses sensible-browser (linked to firefox by debian) to view docs |
| 04:29.50 | jbevren | hehe |
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| 04:36.50 | J4k3 | hrm |
| 04:38.26 | J4k3 | I can't get this debian installer working on my walnut |
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| 04:45.45 | jbevren | can sane -NOT- present and require agreement to the license EVERY time its launched? |
| 04:49.50 | J4k3 | gah, this thing just won't boot |
| 04:54.13 | jbevren | jake: I can dcc you the file I built/used |
| 04:54.25 | jbevren | its a ramdisk, so you have to have your own kernel |
| 04:54.59 | J4k3 | ahh, I figured it out |
| 04:55.02 | jbevren | ok |
| 04:55.05 | J4k3 | I had ttys0 instead of ttyS0 |
| 04:55.06 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 04:55.10 | jbevren | hehe oops |
| 04:59.54 | jbevren | those would be an interesting beast to get linux onto |
| 04:59.55 | jbevren | heh |
| 05:00.10 | jbevren | you can stick up to 8 of them into a mac and get 9 concurrent systm |
| 05:00.11 | jbevren | s |
| 05:00.17 | jbevren | (the mac being one) |
| 05:45.55 | J4k3 | wow, this walnut board is not quite a screamer in the disk I/O dept |
| 05:46.01 | J4k3 | or this old wd 6.4gb is slower than I think it is |
| 05:46.36 | J4k3 | I've got 128MB ram in it |
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| 08:57.26 | redblue | hi! |
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| 13:14.06 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 13:14.12 | prpplague | merry freakin monday |
| 13:14.41 | agaffney | :( |
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| 13:40.08 | prpplague | GPSFan: ho ho ho |
| 13:44.49 | GPSFan | prpplague: g'day |
| 14:03.57 | prpplague | GPSFan: whats cookin? |
| 14:04.48 | GPSFan | not much, it's monday... any news on the Lnode80 front? |
| 14:05.09 | prpplague | sorry no, i've been swampped on other projects, haven't heard what the delay is |
| 14:05.14 | prpplague | i'll check on it today |
| 14:05.46 | GPSFan | np, gots lots of other irons in the fire atm.. |
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| 16:03.34 | jbevren | yawn |
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| 19:31.39 | agaffney | well fsck |
| 19:31.42 | agaffney | I just got what was supposed to be a ens1370 card |
| 19:31.45 | agaffney | but it's a 1371 |
| 19:31.48 | agaffney | the picture on the auction clearly shows "1370" on the chip |
| 19:31.51 | agaffney | and the auction doesn't say that the picture may not be the actual item |
| 19:32.08 | agaffney | that card is different from the 1371 I've got, though |
| 19:32.12 | agaffney | so maybe it will work better |
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