| 00:11.52 | aundry | lol |
| 00:11.59 | aundry | ^&* |
| 00:12.04 | sunrunner20 | ok |
| 00:12.13 | sunrunner20 | i'm rendering a 12k x 12k mandabraught |
| 00:12.19 | sunrunner20 | its doing 1line /sec |
| 00:12.23 | sunrunner20 | gonna take 3 hours -_- |
| 00:12.36 | silverpower | You need a real box. |
| 00:12.39 | silverpower | :P |
| 00:13.01 | sunrunner20 | rotflmao |
| 00:13.18 | sunrunner20 | you won't find a non hardware system rendering mandabraughts faster than this |
| 00:13.23 | sunrunner20 | unless |
| 00:13.40 | sunrunner20 | you overclock a AMD64 clocked at like 4ghz |
| 00:13.54 | sunrunner20 | this is an a 3.5ghz P4 dude... |
| 00:13.54 | silverpower | No, you may not have my 32 Origin 2000 chassis. |
| 00:14.12 | silverpower | :P |
| 00:14.20 | sunrunner20 | from what i hear |
| 00:14.27 | sunrunner20 | it took a month to render what i do in minuets... |
| 00:16.08 | sunrunner20 | in fact |
| 00:16.18 | sunrunner20 | i should be able to push this cpu to 3.6ghz now... |
| 00:16.33 | sunrunner20 | this is a crap stepping P4 |
| 00:16.37 | sunrunner20 | first generation Presscot |
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| 03:33.42 | agaffney | so, does anyone actually have a PCI sound card *working* in their walnut? |
| 03:34.02 | davidc__ | agaffney: nope. I can't get anything PCI but that original card that came with it to work |
| 03:34.24 | agaffney | I've had an older matrox card working for fbconsole |
| 03:34.32 | agaffney | and I never tried the firewire |
| 03:34.50 | agaffney | some people have usb cards working |
| 03:34.58 | silverpower | agaffney: I'd test my ES1371 for you, but no serial console and no MAC == nothing. |
| 03:35.03 | agaffney | it's just the ensoniq 137[01] suck in it |
| 03:35.18 | agaffney | silverpower: eh, I've got 2 different model es1371s here that break in different ways |
| 03:35.27 | agaffney | and 1 of them is known working |
| 03:37.08 | silverpower | agaffney: ...dammit. So much for that. I'll probably drop some change for a USB sound device. |
| 03:37.08 | agaffney | yeah, someone else had a cheapy usb audio device working |
| 03:37.11 | silverpower | Besides, the ES1371 is far too tall for use in my wearable design. |
| 03:38.23 | agaffney | that's what single-slot PCI risers are for :P |
| 03:40.49 | silverpower | agaffney: True, but between a video card and USB card, there's no space anyway. |
| 03:41.42 | silverpower | agaffney: I trust USB audio to actually work, and if I get a good device, it won't sound bad. |
| 03:56.50 | davidc__ | hmm- I should find a usb card, and try my M-audio usb thing |
| 03:57.14 | davidc__ | which sounds fine BTW |
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| 04:34.18 | jbevren | davidc__: what maudio usb audio dev do you use? |
| 04:35.51 | davidc__ | I've got a m-audio transit - just got it for its SPDIF - but the analog seems ok on it |
| 04:36.02 | jbevren | ah |
| 04:36.05 | jbevren | works well in linux? |
| 04:36.26 | silverpower | USB audio is very cool when it works and you have the bandwidth to spare for it. |
| 04:36.46 | jbevren | on usb2 doing 2ch 44khz I dont think there's much of an issue |
| 04:37.00 | jbevren | the ppc board cost me $20 :) |
| 04:37.01 | jbevren | er |
| 04:37.06 | jbevren | wrong chan |
| 04:37.19 | silverpower | heh. |
| 04:37.37 | agaffney | well, that es1371 that didn't work with the walnut worked great with my G4 with a 2.6.15 (with some gentoo patches) kernel |
| 04:37.44 | silverpower | and USB2 cures a lot of the bandwidth problems with 1.1. |
| 04:38.16 | silverpower | Is it safe to say that the Walnut is screwy WRT handling PCI devices? |
| 04:38.20 | jbevren | I have a pci card in my HP j5600 that 'works' |
| 04:38.24 | jbevren | it plays audio but its choppy |
| 04:38.27 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:38.55 | silverpower | jbevren: How's the Origin? |
| 04:39.04 | jbevren | probably pretty cold tonight heh |
| 04:39.29 | silverpower | Poor thing. Render a Mandelbrot or do some SETI on it or something. |
| 04:39.53 | jbevren | convince my landowner to run a 240v feed to the garage :) |
| 04:39.59 | jbevren | I'd gladly use it to heat the garage |
| 04:40.18 | silverpower | Bah! You don't need a dryer. |
| 04:40.27 | jbevren | I'd keep the cpu's pegged just to warm the thing heh |
| 04:42.24 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:42.30 | jbevren | heat isnt what makes a dryer work |
| 04:42.37 | jbevren | a dryer is a dehumidifier |
| 04:42.44 | jbevren | the heat jsut encourages water to vaporize |
| 04:42.49 | silverpower | :facepalm: |
| 04:43.02 | agaffney | pwn3d! |
| 04:43.06 | jbevren | I only know this because I know my dryer runs until the humidity on its output gets below a certain point |
| 04:43.19 | jbevren | the timed-dry function is broken cause the clock doesnt work heh |
| 04:43.23 | jbevren | so I have to use auto-dry |
| 04:43.53 | davidc__ | jbevren: haven't tried with linux |
| 04:43.55 | jbevren | auto-dry is smarter anyway.. over-drying your clothes makes the fibers brittle ;-) |
| 04:44.00 | jbevren | davidc__: doh. heh |
| 04:44.03 | jbevren | try some time :) |
| 04:44.09 | davidc__ | jbevren: yeah, will |
| 04:44.12 | davidc__ | jbevren: there are drivers |
| 04:44.12 | jbevren | I'm looking for a reasonable usb audio dongle, and m-audio is good stuff |
| 04:44.15 | davidc__ | I use it on OSX ;) |
| 04:44.17 | jbevren | (for the price) |
| 04:44.25 | davidc__ | yeah, there hardware is good - but driver wise there are some issues |
| 04:44.32 | davidc__ | someday I'm just gonna rewrite the bloody OSX driver |
| 04:44.34 | davidc__ | its so buggy |
| 04:44.57 | silverpower | jbevren: I saw a Turtle Beach dongle somewhere, but some features are a tad... lacking... in non-Windows OSes. |
| 04:45.13 | jbevren | I dont want fancinesses |
| 04:45.23 | jbevren | just 44k16 and clean output |
| 04:45.23 | jbevren | :) |
| 04:45.38 | silverpower | jbevren: Then it'll be just fine, as it satisfies both of your criteria. |
| 04:45.40 | jbevren | (and linux compatibility) |
| 04:45.46 | jbevren | the TB? |
| 04:45.49 | silverpower | That too. |
| 04:45.58 | davidc__ | jbevren: eh - I should test the analog a bit more maybe... I use digital to my speakers right now |
| 04:46.07 | davidc__ | haven't really tested the hell outta it yet |
| 04:46.21 | silverpower | The fancy virtualization stuff isn't usable on Linux or OSX, but you don't need it. |
| 04:49.37 | jbevren | silverpower: that stuff tends to be done HSP anyway |
| 04:51.34 | silverpower | True. |
| 04:51.52 | silverpower | DIE, crappy hardware mixer! |
| 04:52.55 | silverpower | Stupid ALSA drivers don't have support for the headphone mixer. |
| 04:52.57 | jbevren | in macos? |
| 04:52.59 | jbevren | ohh |
| 04:53.12 | jbevren | I was going to suggest booting macos and setting the output volume (not the system volume) to 50% |
| 04:53.29 | jbevren | on some pbooks there are two controls (there was on my 520c) |
| 04:53.52 | silverpower | Same here, but it's inaccessible and set to 100% currently AFAICT. |
| 04:54.04 | jbevren | :X |
| 04:54.11 | silverpower | (no OSX disks == no OSX.) |
| 04:54.52 | jbevren | pismos will run 7.5.3 wont they? |
| 04:55.39 | davidc__ | jbevren: insecure file creation? |
| 04:55.44 | davidc__ | or insecure temp file or something? |
| 04:55.50 | jbevren | buffer overflow |
| 04:55.57 | jbevren | Jim Meyering discovered several buffer overflows in GNU tar, which may lead to the execution of arbitrary code through specially crafted tar archives. |
| 04:56.00 | jbevren | http://www.debian.org/security/2006/dsa-987 |
| 04:56.05 | silverpower | Nope. NewWorld machines won't boot 7.5.3 without some serious abuse of System Enablers and other suchlike. |
| 04:56.12 | jbevren | ah |
| 04:56.41 | jbevren | http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2006-0300 for the original report |
| 04:56.51 | silverpower | I suppose I could download a copy of 9.1 somewhere. :) |
| 04:57.06 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:57.22 | jbevren | I have two floppies, one has OS6.0.8 for my 68000 macs, and the other has 7.5 network-access for the rest |
| 04:57.41 | jbevren | the 7.5 can bootstrap any mac I own from the network ;-) |
| 04:57.56 | jbevren | with the help of my cayman router, I can even isntall on a mac SE from my ethernet server |
| 04:57.58 | jbevren | mwahaha |
| 04:58.01 | silverpower | Gah! What the hell?! Who designed the chem pre-reqs at my CC, anyway!? |
| 04:58.03 | silverpower | Heh. |
| 04:58.23 | jbevren | the thing that aggrivates me is that macs cant netboot |
| 04:58.29 | jbevren | my apple IIgs can |
| 04:58.32 | jbevren | but not a mac :-X |
| 04:58.33 | jbevren | lol |
| 04:58.38 | silverpower | NewWorld machines can. |
| 04:58.41 | jbevren | well yeah |
| 04:58.44 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:59.37 | silverpower | Get this. In order to complete a useful chem sequence at my CC, you have to take a year's worth of non-transferrable courses. What. The. Fuck. |
| 04:59.57 | jbevren | lol |
| 05:00.00 | jbevren | choose a different college |
| 05:00.04 | jbevren | tell them precisely why |
| 05:00.56 | silverpower | "Dear Cleveland State, I'm attempting a transfer here because my current college has the most fucked-up pre-reqs ever." |
| 05:01.26 | silverpower | In order to get into the programming courses, you have to do a semester of VB. |
| 05:01.46 | jbevren | "Dear CS, I'm attempting an early transfer to your fine institution because my current institution has unfairly parasitic prerequisites for my choice of study." |
| 05:02.14 | silverpower | jbevren: A-men. May I use that? |
| 05:02.23 | jbevren | You may. |
| 05:02.29 | silverpower | Thanks. |
| 05:02.45 | jbevren | (c) jbevren |
| 05:02.46 | jbevren | hehe |
| 05:03.34 | jbevren | go on to explain how you suspect that management in a higher instution than the CC may have a more enlightened view of what classes should be required to enter a Chem class. :) |
| 05:03.41 | jbevren | they might like the flattery |
| 05:04.00 | silverpower | bwahahahaha! |
| 05:04.13 | jbevren | heh |
| 05:04.32 | jbevren | I've used such wordage to talk my way out of shipping charges before :) |
| 05:06.27 | silverpower | jbevren: So should I switch community colleges to find one that puts me in better shape for a transfer to a good CS school (WPI is my intended transfer target, and no Calc classes == no transfer.) I still have to get those out of the way, but I want to get as much out of the way as possible before I transfer, so I have time for the classes I *want*. (Double CS+math major.) |
| 05:07.24 | jbevren | youre already out of high school? |
| 05:07.50 | silverpower | HS dropout, got a GED. (710 composite/800). |
| 05:07.57 | jbevren | nice score |
| 05:08.13 | jbevren | so anyway, that excludes asking the HS guidance counselor heh |
| 05:08.19 | silverpower | Got tired of being teased, beat the shit out of my primary tormentor and got expelled. |
| 05:08.39 | silverpower | The cretin earned it. |
| 05:08.42 | jbevren | heh |
| 05:08.45 | jbevren | I was teased a lot |
| 05:08.53 | jbevren | up until my tormentor wound up in my gym class |
| 05:09.04 | jbevren | we had a nice game of tackle gym hockey |
| 05:09.28 | jbevren | he was the lead running back of our football team, and the teacher was the coach, so he got a kick out of me taking him down left and right :) |
| 05:09.34 | jbevren | (the coach did) |
| 05:09.44 | jbevren | he didnt torment me much after that semester |
| 05:09.47 | jbevren | I digress |
| 05:09.58 | jbevren | I would suggest talking to counselors at different CC's |
| 05:10.14 | jbevren | each one wants you at their college, so they'll try their best to sell to you :) |
| 05:10.26 | jbevren | set up meetings, tell them why youre unhappy with your school |
| 05:10.39 | jbevren | ask if they can remedy the situation :) |
| 05:11.38 | silverpower | Sounds good to me. I have an excellent math teacher, and I plan to at least take his calc courses if at all possible. |
| 05:11.57 | jbevren | nod. |
| 05:12.02 | jbevren | how old are you? |
| 05:12.10 | silverpower | But this 'burn one or two semesters on non-transferrables' crap is annoying. |
| 05:12.35 | jbevren | every college will have nontransferrable requirements |
| 05:12.44 | jbevren | the trick is finding a set you can live with |
| 05:12.57 | jbevren | CC's -want- you to attend, you help their subsidy :) |
| 05:14.03 | silverpower | jbevren: Calc-based Physics has a sane pre-req (finish Calc 1, you can do CB-P 1, finish Calc 2, and you can do CB-P 2. Same with the final one.) |
| 05:15.02 | silverpower | I was looking for a hard science that I could do in the same semester as Calc 1, and Chem was my first choice. |
| 05:15.16 | jbevren | shrug |
| 05:15.23 | jbevren | I was studying computer systems and network tech in college |
| 05:15.30 | jbevren | some 8 years ago :) |
| 05:15.57 | jbevren | it was a computer-related occupations core with just an AA degree |
| 05:16.07 | jbevren | so I didnt have to take bs classes or transfer heh |
| 05:18.24 | silverpower | Ah. The final goal is a Ph.D for me. My interests mainly lie in AI, but a lot of it is plagued by 80's-era assumptions, so I'd rather have a solid understanding of CS and math. |
| 05:18.49 | jbevren | nod |
| 05:18.56 | jbevren | AI's a curiosity of mine |
| 05:19.08 | jbevren | I just suspect its huge-scale pattern matching |
| 05:19.14 | silverpower | Most courses geared towards AI are *classical* AI. |
| 05:19.21 | jbevren | and immense multiplexing in the 'human' implementation of intelligence :) |
| 05:20.01 | jbevren | if you study too much into it, you'll come to the realization that when you die, your consciousness just switches off |
| 05:20.01 | jbevren | heh |
| 05:23.50 | jbevren | ok time to concede for the evening :) |
| 05:24.04 | silverpower | Heh. |
| 05:25.07 | silverpower | Hmm. Apparently, Clevland State has a very similar prereq, but you can get out of it by proving that you took HS chem. |
| 05:25.26 | silverpower | I didn't. |
| 05:26.14 | silverpower | I hope I can appeal for a waiver, and self-study to bring myself back up to speed on it. I'm going to ask my adviser about it. |
| 05:28.11 | silverpower | Also, I can attempt to get a waiver to get out of the VB course and into the fun stuff (that actually *transfers*). |
| 05:30.05 | silverpower | At least the humanities stuff transfers, and I got lucky and scored a good instructor in my Public Speaking class (three or four speeches, and he actually knows his stuff). |
| 05:30.35 | silverpower | Normally, they make you do 8-10 speeches, and it's a sort of 'throw them to the wolves' sort of thing. |
| 05:30.39 | silverpower | Dear goddess. |
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| 13:30.09 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 13:30.12 | prpplague | merry freakin wed |
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| 13:56.00 | jbevren | no doubt |
| 13:56.09 | jbevren | after two mondays in a row, today -better- be good |
| 13:56.09 | jbevren | heh |
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| 14:48.28 | agaffney | jbevren: rain here :P |
| 14:48.42 | jbevren | we had a thunderstorm yesterday |
| 14:48.52 | agaffney | thunderstorms today and tomorrow here |
| 15:02.36 | prpplague | me too |
| 15:02.42 | prpplague | love a good t-storm |
| 15:03.18 | agaffney | I'm the kind of person that would hop in my truck and chase a tornado |
| 15:03.22 | agaffney | unfortunately, I've never seen a tornado |
| 15:03.29 | agaffney | despite living in the american midwest |
| 15:06.31 | jbevren | agaffney: where are you at |
| 15:33.59 | agaffney | St. Louis, MO |
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| 18:04.23 | agaffney | hah |
| 18:04.25 | agaffney | I've seen that before |
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