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| 00:16.30 | sunrunner20 | i didnt' realize you acronymed it |
| 00:16.31 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 00:16.33 | sunrunner20 | its by him |
| 00:16.43 | sunrunner20 | got it in real life and ebook |
| 00:16.54 | joe_bleau | OK, that's something I should get. I'll put it on my list. Thanks! |
| 00:17.05 | sunrunner20 | 'tis rather usefull |
| 00:17.37 | joe_bleau | I'm weak on the OS side of things. More experience with bare metal firmware. |
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| 12:14.12 | ohsix | mmm, love these guys' http://www.computerproducts.globalsources.com/gsol/I/USB-LAN/p/2000000011008/3000000163943/sm/8833251401.htm |
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| 14:18.46 | Leon | all: how can I introduce dependencies between buildroot packages neatly? |
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| 17:59.41 | joe_bleau | prpplague working on sunday? What's the world coming to? |
| 18:00.29 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:00.36 | prpplague | joe_bleau: i've got a ton of work to do |
| 18:01.12 | prpplague | joe_bleau: main reason i usually don't come online during the weekend is because they were just installing adsl in my area of the island |
| 18:01.22 | prpplague | joe_bleau: gonna get it probably mid of apr |
| 18:01.37 | prpplague | joe_bleau: 1.44mb up/down for just $12.95USD |
| 18:01.54 | joe_bleau | Sounds good, and the pricing looks nice. |
| 18:02.26 | agaffney | adsl? 1.44MB up/down sounds SDSL-ish to me :P |
| 18:02.48 | agaffney | somehow I doubt you're getting a T1 equivelant for $13/month |
| 18:03.02 | prpplague | agaffney: .gov subsidized |
| 18:03.11 | agaffney | pfft |
| 18:03.15 | agaffney | that's cheating! |
| 18:03.28 | prpplague | agaffney: no hehe, it's an investment |
| 18:03.41 | prpplague | agaffney: as barbados doesn't have alot of natural resources |
| 18:04.05 | prpplague | agaffney: educating the people, and getting some of the indian outsourced contracts is big target |
| 18:04.19 | prpplague | brb, gotta grab some parts |
| 18:05.05 | agaffney | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=barbados&ll=13.193887,-59.543198&spn=0.290806,0.690765&t=k |
| 18:05.12 | agaffney | I can see prpplague's house from here! ;) |
| 18:41.12 | agaffney | google maps doesn't have much info on barbados |
| 18:41.55 | prpplague | agaffney: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=barbados&t=k&ll=13.060416,-59.499893&spn=0.038043,0.086517&t=k |
| 18:42.36 | prpplague | agaffney: no one does |
| 18:42.41 | agaffney | is that an airport just right of center? |
| 18:42.54 | prpplague | agaffney: 70% of barbados's roads have no name or designation |
| 18:42.56 | prpplague | agaffney: yea |
| 18:43.11 | prpplague | agaffney: i live and the very bottom there near the beach |
| 18:43.18 | prpplague | s/and/at |
| 18:44.18 | agaffney | I wish I lived near a beach |
| 18:44.28 | agaffney | I live right in the middle of the US :P |
| 18:44.40 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:44.47 | prpplague | i never go to the beach |
| 18:44.55 | agaffney | !!! |
| 18:45.29 | prpplague | last time i went was about 7 or 8 months ago |
| 18:45.59 | agaffney | I'd be out there every day |
| 18:46.13 | agaffney | I may be a nerd, but I still love the water :P |
| 18:46.51 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:47.02 | agaffney | let's trade places. I get the $13 T1 and beach and you get the crappy St. Louis, MO weather :) |
| 18:47.22 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:47.32 | prpplague | agaffney: i'm afraid there are many other trade offs |
| 18:48.44 | agaffney | but there's $13 T1s and a beach! ;) |
| 18:49.14 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:50.24 | prpplague | one being lack of choice in beer |
| 18:51.31 | agaffney | the taste of beer just never appealed to me |
| 18:51.53 | prpplague | agaffney: its an aquired taste |
| 18:52.24 | agaffney | I don't have the desire to get stupid drunk, so I have no motivation to aquire that taste :) |
| 18:54.05 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe, see there is a major misconception about beer these days, thanks to miller, coors, and AB |
| 18:54.33 | agaffney | I've had fresh microbrewed beer, and I still didn't like it |
| 18:55.38 | prpplague | agaffney: yea, i ment that ppl drink beer to get drunk |
| 18:56.08 | prpplague | but its not for everyone |
| 18:56.14 | agaffney | ah |
| 18:56.26 | prpplague | agaffney: i appreciate the art and history of beer alot |
| 18:56.58 | prpplague | agaffney: up until the last 100 years, the only thing you could drink and be sure you didn't get sick was either beer or wine |
| 18:57.16 | prpplague | agaffney: only during prohibition did the attitudes towards beer really change |
| 19:26.53 | GPSFan | agaffney: did you ever get your pci sound card working? I just started working on a CS4280 (uses cs46xx driver) and I'm having similar issues to what you described a couple of weeks ago. |
| 19:27.49 | agaffney | nope |
| 19:28.04 | agaffney | it was suggested in #gentoo-ppc that the lack of a hardware timer may be what's causing this problem |
| 19:28.13 | agaffney | it makes sense since a USB audio device works |
| 19:28.20 | agaffney | I doubt that would use the hardware timer |
| 19:28.25 | agaffney | since it wouldn't have direct access to it |
| 19:28.50 | GPSFan | hmm, yeah, my usb audio works fine too. |
| 19:29.00 | agaffney | I haven't actually tried usb audio |
| 19:29.07 | agaffney | your success is what I'm referring to :) |
| 19:29.15 | GPSFan | ah.. |
| 19:29.21 | agaffney | so PCI audio is probably a lost cause |
| 19:29.33 | GPSFan | ;>( |
| 19:29.43 | agaffney | I guess I need to get a USB card :) |
| 19:29.46 | joe_bleau | I don't understand...why wouldn't PCI audio work? |
| 19:30.04 | agaffney | I don't really understand it either :P |
| 19:30.17 | GPSFan | which hardware timer were they refering to? in the cpu/board or in the audio device? |
| 19:30.26 | agaffney | GPSFan: cpu/board |
| 19:30.36 | agaffney | it's not a general ppc problem |
| 19:30.37 | joe_bleau | there's plenty of timer stuff in the cpu. |
| 19:30.46 | agaffney | the same es1371 card works fine in my G4 |
| 19:30.51 | agaffney | with the same kernel |
| 19:31.00 | agaffney | so it's definitely a hardware issue with the walnut |
| 19:31.24 | GPSFan | ah, so it's something missing or not properly configured in the ppc405. |
| 19:31.40 | joe_bleau | PCI config, DMA, that sort of thing? |
| 19:31.54 | joe_bleau | The ticker obviously works |
| 19:32.29 | GPSFan | agaffney: by the same kernel, you mean the same binary image? |
| 19:35.15 | agaffney | no, same version |
| 19:35.17 | agaffney | 2.6.15 |
| 19:36.15 | nerdboy | so have you thought of any other ideas? |
| 19:36.26 | nerdboy | things to do with it i mean |
| 19:37.03 | GPSFan | agaffney: k |
| 19:37.38 | nerdboy | i got a little switch card.. i was thinking router maybe |
| 19:53.26 | agaffney | what exactly does it do? |
| 19:53.41 | agaffney | I wonder if it has anything to do with a non-functional /dev/rtc |
| 19:53.55 | joe_bleau | Why would an audio board need to know the time of day? |
| 19:54.28 | agaffney | maybe it needs the clock for audio speed stuff |
| 19:54.35 | agaffney | it may even be the driver that needs the clock |
| 19:54.42 | agaffney | so it knows how fast to send data to the card |
| 19:54.51 | joe_bleau | I dunno, but I'd be *stunned* if that was the case. |
| 19:55.04 | agaffney | well, it's obviously something specific to the walnut |
| 19:55.10 | joe_bleau | What are they gonna do, PLL it from 1Hz to 48kHz? |
| 19:55.22 | prpplague | i don't do much with audio, but i know the PIT normally is used for several things related to audio |
| 19:55.25 | agaffney | since the same card works in linux in my x86, x86_64, and ppc boxes |
| 19:55.35 | joe_bleau | Ah, but it has a PIT. |
| 19:55.38 | agaffney | PIT? |
| 19:55.45 | joe_bleau | And it must be working |
| 19:55.48 | prpplague | programmable interrupt timer |
| 19:55.51 | agaffney | ah |
| 19:56.10 | joe_bleau | I dunno, do must boards even give the RTC an interrupt? |
| 19:56.14 | joe_bleau | s/must/most/ |
| 19:56.20 | prpplague | agaffney: what does the audio do when you try to play it? |
| 19:56.33 | agaffney | I never actually get any audio output |
| 19:56.41 | agaffney | I get weird behavior with the /dev nodes |
| 19:57.00 | agaffney | with alsa, /dev/asound/adsp throws I/O errors after a few seconds |
| 19:57.17 | agaffney | with oss, it doesn't allow the data to be written to the /dev node at full speed |
| 19:57.43 | agaffney | I even had different behavior with 2 different es1371 cards |
| 19:58.17 | agaffney | with a newer one, the data was only being sent at ~1/2 speed (it took 2x the amount of physical time to decode and send an amount of audio) |
| 19:58.34 | agaffney | with the older one, it would send a large chunk and then only be able to send ~7k/s to the /dev node |
| 19:59.24 | agaffney | to clarify the case with the newer card, in 30s, it mpg321 would have decoded and sent 15s of audio data to the card |
| 19:59.41 | agaffney | if I redirected the audio output to stdout, it would decode and send 30s in 30s |
| 20:00.11 | agaffney | I also tried piping the audio output from mpg321 (stuck into a file) into the /dev node by hand |
| 20:00.24 | agaffney | same kind of stuff |
| 20:00.46 | agaffney | but the same card with the same kernel version works like a champ in my G4 |
| 20:01.11 | agaffney | and my x86 and my x86_64 |
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| 21:44.01 | GPSFan | agaffney: got my cs4280 card doing, there is an option under processor in the kernel config under Processor --> IBM 4xx options [ ]PPC4xx DMA controller support this needs to be enabled. I also had problems with the mixer master volume being set to 0. |
| 21:44.11 | GPSFan | s/doing/going |
| 21:45.27 | agaffney | GPSFan: I'm pretty sure I've got that option enabled |
| 21:45.33 | agaffney | and I turned up the mixer |
| 21:45.55 | GPSFan | k, just thought you'd like to know.. |
| 21:46.45 | GPSFan | so there is hope for pci soundcards. |
| 21:46.57 | agaffney | I'm double-checking my kernel config now |
| 21:47.28 | agaffney | [*] PPC4xx DMA controller support |
| 21:47.30 | agaffney | :/ |
| 21:49.11 | GPSFan | that was what made the differencd on mine, without it I would only get 1 or 2 interrupts on the sound cards /proc/interrupts entry then the driver would hang. |
| 21:50.33 | agaffney | maybe it is just that the creative cards suck goat nuts with regards to the PCI spec |
| 21:50.51 | agaffney | I don't have any other cards to try, though |
| 21:54.42 | GPSFan | could be this is the only pci sound card I've got too. |
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| 23:42.05 | tarawa | has anyone seen a compile error on package udhcp specifically statement 135 in dhcpc.c on not having a default: in that case stmt ? 20060225 snapshot |