| 00:49.08 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: I see the Wiki has been updated...what did the problem turn on to be on the 1370? |
| 00:50.47 | GPSFan | joe_bleau: I didn't find any problem, I just cross compiled the es1370 driver as a module, loaded it and bingo audio. The line level output is quite low, but I didn't get any dma stalls or other error messages. |
| 00:51.12 | joe_bleau | So the missing RTC wasn't the cause. Good to know. |
| 00:51.29 | GPSFan | I put my kernel & the modules up so others can test it out with their boards. |
| 00:52.38 | GPSFan | I've been running my other board with the 4280 sound chip on it for several days straight, plays music great. |
| 00:52.40 | joe_bleau | I've got an SBLive around here somewhere. Wonder if it'll work |
| 00:53.12 | GPSFan | I had to go out & scrounge to find an es1370 card. |
| 00:53.43 | joe_bleau | No one ever said you weren't dedicated to the cause, comrade. |
| 00:53.49 | joe_bleau | :-) |
| 00:54.03 | GPSFan | yah sure... you betcha.. |
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| 01:43.49 | GPSFan | MegaMahi: hey, have you had any luck with your toolchain/buildroot problems? |
| 01:46.17 | MegaMahi | yo hay |
| 01:46.18 | MegaMahi | hey* |
| 01:46.25 | MegaMahi | ya works great used the build your on |
| 01:46.27 | MegaMahi | no issues |
| 01:46.47 | MegaMahi | got an issue with alsa though |
| 01:47.33 | MegaMahi | getting this wierd error that not even googling doenst seem to have info on.. |
| 01:48.38 | GPSFan | k, what sort of alsa errors? I just got an ensonic es1370 sound card running.. |
| 01:49.15 | MegaMahi | using latest stable builds of alsa-lib and tools(1.10) |
| 01:49.51 | MegaMahi | using 2.6.16-rc3 with your config |
| 01:49.56 | MegaMahi | all uclibc compiled |
| 01:50.08 | MegaMahi | using aplay to just run a wav file and i get a |
| 01:50.27 | MegaMahi | aplay: set_params:1000: unable to install sw params |
| 01:50.32 | GPSFan | you using usb sound? |
| 01:50.37 | MegaMahi | emu10k1 |
| 01:50.41 | MegaMahi | and usb sound i tried |
| 01:50.54 | MegaMahi | tried 2 drivers |
| 01:51.01 | MegaMahi | the emu10k1 didnt work last time |
| 01:51.23 | MegaMahi | the usb-audio(Griffin iMic) worked but wasn't working correctly |
| 01:51.33 | MegaMahi | but this is now giving me the same error |
| 01:52.40 | MegaMahi | running as root, i used snddevices script to make the alsa drivers, probably causing it? im not using devfs |
| 01:52.45 | GPSFan | have you tried oss emulation? I'm using that for both my pci sound cards & usb sound. I haven't a clue about aplay. I'm using mpd (uses madplay lib for mp3') |
| 01:53.45 | MegaMahi | i made it as a module but just doing a base modprobe doesnt load it, so ill try loading it now |
| 01:54.09 | MegaMahi | i havent installed libmad and stuff yet i just using aplay as a benchmark as sorts |
| 01:59.57 | GPSFan | I don't know about the emu10k1, but the 4280 needs 6 modules loaded, 2 ac-97 codec, raw midi, midi-event, midi, and the cs46xx.ko iteslf. |
| 02:00.38 | GPSFan | midi is only req'd if the sequencer enabled in the kern config. |
| 02:01.52 | MegaMahi | ya |
| 02:02.09 | MegaMahi | im compiling libmad etc. now so ill get back to you on that later |
| 02:02.31 | MegaMahi | gonna try the iMic |
| 02:02.52 | GPSFan | iMic? that a mac thing? |
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| 02:05.42 | MegaMahi_ | grr |
| 02:05.51 | MegaMahi_ | wifi just dropped out |
| 02:05.54 | MegaMahi_ | phone rang :-P |
| 02:06.04 | GPSFan | hmm, didn't see you leave.. |
| 02:06.18 | GPSFan | ah, you didn't .. |
| 02:06.21 | MegaMahi_ | give it a sec |
| 02:08.15 | GPSFan | I'm glad you are making progress. I'll check in later, gonna veg out in front of the tv for a while.. |
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| 03:46.22 | MegaMahi | yo GPS you active? |
| 03:58.09 | GPSFan | MegaMahi: back.. |
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| 03:58.49 | MegaMahi | yo, having some wierd issue with libmad, compiled everything no errors, and madplay gives me |
| 03:58.58 | MegaMahi | a cant resolve symbol '' |
| 03:59.25 | MegaMahi | so im just gonna compile mpd with the libmad source and see if that works |
| 03:59.53 | MegaMahi | err, the libmad source tha came with mpd |
| 04:00.11 | GPSFan | what does ldd madplay tell you? |
| 04:00.26 | MegaMahi | Can't resolve symbol '' |
| 04:00.34 | MegaMahi | doesnt even tell me what it cant find |
| 04:00.51 | MegaMahi | ld has everything in it |
| 04:00.57 | MegaMahi | ./configure has no issue finding the lib |
| 04:02.19 | MegaMahi | mpd has a little bit left on making so ill see if thats 'broken' in a sec |
| 04:02.44 | GPSFan | are yoshure that it used the uclibc libs and not the libc libs? that has been a problem for some people. |
| 04:02.55 | MegaMahi | not sure |
| 04:03.10 | MegaMahi | used a full buildroot |
| 04:03.17 | MegaMahi | so im sure im running full uclibc |
| 04:03.28 | MegaMahi | unless its a actual mad src thing |
| 04:04.50 | GPSFan | did youuse buildroot to build madplay? |
| 04:05.05 | MegaMahi | no |
| 04:05.40 | GPSFan | ah, that may be it. I can dcc you a madplay.mk file that works for me. |
| 04:06.29 | MegaMahi | email it im actually on irssi while sshed into my asterisk box, xchat has been giving me issues |
| 04:06.42 | MegaMahi | wait |
| 04:06.42 | GPSFan | then with a few tweaks to the /packages/config.in, buildroot can build madplay. |
| 04:06.46 | GPSFan | k. |
| 04:06.47 | MegaMahi | mpd seems to be working.. |
| 04:06.59 | GPSFan | good, progress. |
| 04:07.02 | MegaMahi | not getting the error there anymore(same as modplay) |
| 04:08.18 | MegaMahi | hmm |
| 04:08.25 | GPSFan | on it's way. |
| 04:08.35 | MegaMahi | would of helped if i had a mpd client ready to test with.. |
| 04:10.07 | MegaMahi | recvd |
| 04:11.46 | GPSFan | add 'source "package/madplay/Config.in"' to the Config.in file in /packages and add the Config.in I sent you along with the madplay.mk to /packages/madplsy/ |
| 04:11.59 | GPSFan | s/madplsy/madplay |
| 04:11.59 | MegaMahi | in buildroot? |
| 04:12.20 | GPSFan | yes |
| 04:12.43 | GPSFan | look at the packages directory, and add a madplay directory. |
| 04:12.59 | GPSFan | in it put the Config.in and madplay.mk I sent you |
| 04:13.25 | GPSFan | add the 'source.....' to /packages/Config.in |
| 04:13.58 | MegaMahi | ok |
| 04:14.25 | GPSFan | then when you do make menuconfig in buildroot there will be a new package available to build ..madplay.. |
| 04:14.46 | MegaMahi | gonna have to throw buildroot on target, been just using the board to make things.. |
| 04:15.39 | GPSFan | it will probably want to dl the madplay source unless you put the tar.gx file in the dl directory |
| 04:15.55 | GPSFan | s/tar.gx/tar.gz |
| 04:17.01 | GPSFan | you have been natively compiling things? |
| 04:17.17 | MegaMahi | ya i dont care if it takes teh 2 minutes |
| 04:17.20 | MegaMahi | the* |
| 04:17.44 | GPSFan | hm, never tried that, I always cross compile stuff. |
| 04:18.25 | MegaMahi | i just let it make and go make a sammich or something and by the time im back(unless its a kernel) its usually done |
| 04:18.33 | MegaMahi | i never did the buildroot on it toghu |
| 04:18.35 | MegaMahi | though* |
| 04:18.47 | MegaMahi | i did that on a P3 dell i got kickin arround |
| 04:19.48 | MegaMahi | somehow i broke dropbear(entropy problem i guess, gets blocked up) so ive just been using wget to move files over |
| 04:20.00 | MegaMahi | its a sloppy setup but if it works it works |
| 04:20.32 | GPSFan | I guess I usually cross compile stuff because my targets don't always have enough ram or disk to hold a toolchain. |
| 04:22.16 | GPSFan | this is my first adventure with kernel 2.6 stuff. I had read that it was slower, took more ram, and wasn't really ready for embedded prime time. I think it's come a long way since I read that. |
| 04:22.41 | MegaMahi | ya i dont exactly like 2.6 |
| 04:22.59 | MegaMahi | just to much security features i think |
| 04:23.18 | MegaMahi | 2.4 is fine for just about anything i do |
| 04:23.37 | MegaMahi | i got slack 10 on the one dell and its 2.4.26 i think |
| 04:23.50 | GPSFan | me too, as I said this was an adventure. all my other embedded stuff uses 2.4 |
| 04:24.28 | MegaMahi | everything else i moved to SuSE cause i need security for the server(the one im using irssi on now) and the laptop for a desktop |
| 04:24.55 | MegaMahi | and it autoupdates |
| 04:25.09 | MegaMahi | so constantly rebuilding things isnt an issue |
| 04:25.20 | MegaMahi | only thing i rebuild about every month is asterisk |
| 04:25.27 | GPSFan | auto updating is nice, my ubuntu laptop ibook g3 dies that. |
| 04:25.40 | GPSFan | does |
| 04:26.02 | MegaMahi | grr |
| 04:26.37 | MegaMahi | unzip doesnt like my osx zipped file |
| 04:27.19 | MegaMahi | and i dont have cvs on here.. |
| 04:28.18 | GPSFan | never tried to zip something with osx, unzip yes, but never zip. |
| 04:28.33 | MegaMahi | ive never had an issue with it |
| 04:28.46 | MegaMahi | it works on slack but it just doesnt want to unzip on the ppc |
| 04:38.20 | MegaMahi | and buildroot doenst want to run great.. |
| 04:44.47 | GPSFan | ;>( |
| 04:45.29 | MegaMahi | strange cause it has no issue on the p4 and this is the same source.. |
| 04:45.54 | MegaMahi | theres a mpd fork for uclibc gonna see about that |
| 04:49.29 | GPSFan | you have a url for that? |
| 04:49.49 | MegaMahi | http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonUclinuxBranch |
| 04:51.04 | GPSFan | thanks, I'm using the stable .12 version with uClibc now, in the latest svn tagtracker.c needs glib/gtree.h for some unknown reason. |
| 04:51.45 | GPSFan | ah, that's the uclinux prot which also uses uClibc. |
| 04:53.29 | GPSFan | well I'm gonna run off to zzland cul. btw this channel is fairly quiet on weekends, most activity during US business hours M-F. |
| 04:53.47 | MegaMahi | ya its midnight here |
| 04:54.00 | GPSFan | east coast? |
| 04:54.18 | MegaMahi | yup |
| 04:54.25 | GPSFan | nite... |
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| 18:22.51 | joe_bleau | prpplague: seen the "VG Pocket" stuff yet? They're claiming backlit TFT LCD. Wonder if they're hackable. |
| 18:25.25 | ohsix | the displays on em are nice |
| 18:25.45 | ohsix | they're cheap nes on a chip deals with '50' cheesy games (palette swapped etc) |
| 18:25.59 | joe_bleau | So, do you have one? |
| 18:26.02 | joe_bleau | What's inside? |
| 18:26.04 | ohsix | radioshack does :P |
| 18:26.23 | ohsix | i googled em when i got home regarding what was inside |
| 18:26.28 | prpplague | joe_bleau: no, url? |
| 18:26.37 | joe_bleau | Still searching for specs! |
| 18:26.50 | ohsix | nes on a chip plus 50 games :P |
| 18:26.54 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:27.03 | ohsix | lemme find what i was reading |
| 18:29.34 | joe_bleau | There's a blog comment claiming that it's a knockoff of the NES hardware. |
| 18:34.22 | prpplague | probably |
| 18:34.30 | prpplague | i have a nes knock off for my son |
| 18:34.37 | prpplague | single chip |
| 18:34.44 | joe_bleau | TV out? |
| 18:34.49 | ohsix | most of em are |
| 18:34.53 | prpplague | the whole pcb is the size of a stick of gum |
| 18:34.57 | prpplague | joe_bleau: yea |
| 18:35.03 | joe_bleau | Makes sense. |
| 18:35.13 | ohsix | i was looking at it for the lcd too heh |
| 18:35.13 | joe_bleau | Cheap TFT, but no horsepower. Too bad. |
| 18:36.29 | prpplague | whats it retail for? |
| 18:36.38 | joe_bleau | ~$30 |
| 18:36.52 | prpplague | hmm |
| 18:37.05 | prpplague | thats a little expensive imho for just a tft lcd |
| 18:37.12 | joe_bleau | Yep. |
| 18:37.42 | ohsix | i found a site with pcb images but i cant find it now |
| 18:39.00 | prpplague | bummer |
| 18:39.38 | ohsix | ya, the chip is potted onto the pcb like most of em |
| 18:40.07 | prpplague | yes CoB |
| 18:44.01 | joe_bleau | Someone on http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=14cdb94a1d7fdd3a890fa51c2e48a339&t=74142&page=5&pp=20 opened one up |
| 18:47.50 | ohsix | hm heh there is a flash chip on it |
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| 18:48.02 | joe_bleau | How do you know? |
| 18:48.16 | ohsix | http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7469/bri29zi.jpg |
| 18:49.32 | joe_bleau | Text to go with that image at: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=14cdb94a1d7fdd3a890fa51c2e48a339&t=74142&page=2&pp=20 |
| 18:49.37 | prpplague | ohsix: yea that looks ot be some sort of storage as to wether its readonly or not |
| 18:49.54 | joe_bleau | (29LV329BTC-90) |
| 18:50.05 | ohsix | http://www.sublab.net/vgp50-3.jpg <- 6mp picture of pcb and gear |
| 18:50.18 | prpplague | oh nice |
| 18:50.34 | prpplague | some of them have micron 32MB flash |
| 18:50.45 | prpplague | some of them have micron 32Mb flash |
| 18:51.21 | ohsix | suddenly very exciting :) |
| 18:51.42 | prpplague | for parts |
| 18:51.42 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:51.46 | joe_bleau | Actually, not. The NOAC aspect sorta kills it for me. |
| 18:51.58 | ohsix | dude no way. portable nes! |
| 18:51.59 | joe_bleau | Maybe if you wanted to play with a NTSC style LCD. |
| 18:52.30 | prpplague | joe_bleau: ahh its a ntsc style? |
| 18:52.36 | joe_bleau | Looks like a dead end. Sorry for the noise, guys. Thought I might have been on to something there. |
| 18:52.42 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:53.00 | prpplague | i like the case though |
| 18:53.02 | ohsix | not an NES fan? |
| 18:53.11 | prpplague | i might pick up a couple for parts and such |
| 18:53.42 | prpplague | ohsix: not a giant fan, i play some of the games, but not something i tend to do on a regular basis |
| 18:54.18 | prpplague | ohsix: most of my hacks are for education or to replace expensive resources with cheaper ones |
| 18:55.30 | ohsix | http://www.flickr.com/photos/79638335@N00/ the 75 one has rom :\ |
| 18:55.33 | prpplague | i've been looking for some cheap usb gadgets to hack |
| 18:56.40 | ohsix | since those companies are on the edge of breaking the law anyways, i dont know why they just dont make it extremely easy for someone to "figure out" how to load different games on them :P |
| 18:59.26 | prpplague | ohsix: because most of the ppl selling those "don't get it" |
| 19:00.17 | ohsix | but eventually, word gets around, they could make a killing selling units just to be reflashed :P |
| 19:04.25 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:04.41 | prpplague | i doubt they will figure it out in time |
| 19:07.24 | prpplague | hmm |
| 19:07.30 | prpplague | my jffs2 partition is really slow |
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