| 01:26.42 | MegaMahi | yo GPS or J4k3, or anyone with a DHT really: the J5 pin header has all the usable GPIOs(which is only like 7 or 8) Pins 1 -7 |
| 01:26.49 | MegaMahi | not usre what 8 and 9 are yet |
| 01:26.56 | joe_bleau | Nice. |
| 01:27.38 | MegaMahi | also word of warning |
| 01:27.58 | MegaMahi | only the first byte of the GPIO register is OK to edit |
| 01:28.06 | MegaMahi | so 0xFF000000 |
| 01:28.14 | MegaMahi | everything else is interupts |
| 01:28.19 | joe_bleau | Did you cause contention? |
| 01:28.39 | MegaMahi | was wondering why my IDE failed when i was messing with it... |
| 01:29.07 | MegaMahi | i was messing in the rom monitor, set the entire register on |
| 01:29.13 | MegaMahi | the proceded to boot linux |
| 01:29.16 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I meant to ask about that yesterday. |
| 01:29.21 | MegaMahi | and ide just timed out |
| 01:29.30 | joe_bleau | I don't like to make lines outputs unless I'm sure that nothing is driving the pin |
| 01:30.20 | MegaMahi | ive been pulsing GPIOs 1-8(the first byte) for the last hour and nothings failed on me |
| 01:30.33 | MegaMahi | nothing in dmesg, no panics, no lockups |
| 01:30.53 | MegaMahi | 0x1 is actually the power LED |
| 01:30.57 | MegaMahi | its going thru the inverter to |
| 01:31.17 | joe_bleau | I'm stunned that I didn't catch this the first time around. |
| 01:31.19 | MegaMahi | so 0x1 is blue power led, 0x2 is media led |
| 01:31.31 | joe_bleau | 0x2, or 0x20000000? |
| 01:32.16 | MegaMahi | 0x10000000 but im only referencing the first byte as all the others i either a) havent looked for b) are interupts |
| 01:32.37 | MegaMahi | or 0x20000000 whatever |
| 01:33.02 | MegaMahi | what i dont know is what pin 8 and 9 is |
| 01:34.50 | MegaMahi | i see .19V on those pins |
| 01:34.55 | MegaMahi | on 8 and 9 |
| 01:37.51 | joe_bleau | Hey, you might look up and see what the J5 GPIO are used for in the real Walnut design |
| 01:38.05 | joe_bleau | Might give a clue as to what J5 was intended to be. |
| 01:38.29 | MegaMahi | the AMCC datasheet says its "Trace" |
| 01:39.01 | MegaMahi | i grabed the schematics for the actual walnut devboard looking now |
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| 01:46.04 | joe_bleau | My riscwatch book says the trace port is a 20 pin or a mictor. |
| 01:46.24 | MegaMahi | gpios 10 to 16 are Peripheral Chip selects, 17 to 23 External interrupts |
| 01:46.43 | MegaMahi | ya 1 to 9 can be set as a gpio or trace |
| 01:47.02 | joe_bleau | Looks like the trace port uses 10 signals, including a ground. |
| 01:47.24 | MegaMahi | The PPC405GP uses pin (ball) multiplexing (sharing) to reduce the total pin requirement without significantly |
| 01:47.24 | MegaMahi | reducing functionality. Some of the pins that are multiplexed require DCR register programming to configure |
| 01:47.24 | MegaMahi | the pin for the desired function. It is expected that in an application, a particular pin is programmed to serve |
| 01:47.24 | MegaMahi | one function. While nothing prevents changing the function of a pin during operation, most applications |
| 01:47.26 | MegaMahi | configure a pin once at power-on reset (POR). --the user manual |
| 01:47.47 | joe_bleau | Did the original Walnut use those GPIO lines for anything? |
| 01:48.14 | MegaMahi | trace, i saw a mictor linked to it |
| 01:48.19 | joe_bleau | Ah, ok. |
| 01:48.28 | MegaMahi | these i guess are just gpios |
| 01:48.32 | MegaMahi | on the dht |
| 01:48.44 | joe_bleau | If I was a home audio device, what would I do with some GPIO lines... |
| 01:49.08 | MegaMahi | well dont forget we dont know what pin 8 9 are |
| 01:49.16 | joe_bleau | Right, I'm working towards that |
| 01:49.30 | joe_bleau | Odd location. Not near the JTAG connector, not near the front or rear panel. |
| 01:49.37 | MegaMahi | i dont have a scope so i cant tell if its i2c, serial or |
| 01:49.52 | MegaMahi | ya and on the totally opisite side of where most of the thermal balls are |
| 01:49.59 | MegaMahi | for the pins that is |
| 01:50.30 | joe_bleau | It's close to the sdram slot |
| 01:50.35 | MegaMahi | ya |
| 01:50.41 | MegaMahi | thats what confused me first off |
| 01:51.06 | joe_bleau | Honestly, my first thought (or hope?) was some kind of memory slot (MMC, SD, etc.) |
| 01:51.12 | MegaMahi | also the fact i kinda failed to properly trace to what pin it goes to. |
| 01:51.17 | MegaMahi | hmm |
| 01:51.59 | joe_bleau | But considering the app, I'd expect it near one of the panels. |
| 01:52.00 | MegaMahi | could do a bit of bit banging it like the WRT for that |
| 01:52.09 | MegaMahi | was it SD they got working on that i forget.. |
| 01:52.17 | joe_bleau | You can bit bang mmc/sd |
| 01:52.23 | MegaMahi | hm |
| 01:52.39 | joe_bleau | But I'd have expected a power and ground pin along with some I/O... |
| 01:53.05 | MegaMahi | ya thats what i thought to |
| 01:53.17 | MegaMahi | its odd there isnt even a solid ground |
| 01:54.05 | joe_bleau | Yes, that's very bothersome. |
| 01:55.01 | MegaMahi | but why .19DCV? |
| 01:55.04 | joe_bleau | Maybe we're missing some 0 ohm jumpers on the nearby pads? |
| 01:55.14 | MegaMahi | maybe |
| 01:56.14 | joe_bleau | pin 2 to pad to ground? |
| 01:56.21 | MegaMahi | whats got me clueless on pin 9 when looking at it and tracing it back, is it just ends |
| 01:56.40 | joe_bleau | pin 1 to pad, maybe to a power rail? |
| 01:56.48 | joe_bleau | (pin 2 to R71) |
| 01:56.54 | joe_bleau | (pin 1 to R73) |
| 01:56.58 | MegaMahi | hmm |
| 01:57.07 | MegaMahi | well pin 1 and 2 goto the LEDs |
| 01:57.44 | MegaMahi | so either way they ground out |
| 01:57.56 | joe_bleau | Oh, same gpio on the leds and J5? |
| 01:58.13 | MegaMahi | ya 1 is power led and 2 is media |
| 01:58.23 | MegaMahi | the pins are not inverted |
| 01:58.31 | MegaMahi | the LEDs are though |
| 01:58.53 | MegaMahi | by that 74HC14 |
| 01:58.56 | joe_bleau | LEDs on the case, and a ribbon cable between the case and board? |
| 01:59.33 | MegaMahi | not sure.. |
| 02:00.00 | joe_bleau | Just guessing. |
| 02:00.01 | MegaMahi | someone was probably asleep making the board in some places |
| 02:00.15 | joe_bleau | pin 3 goes to R70, which looks like a 330 ohm |
| 02:00.37 | MegaMahi | ya thats GPIO3[TS2E] |
| 02:00.49 | joe_bleau | Make that 1k? |
| 02:01.08 | joe_bleau | pulldown to ground. |
| 02:01.30 | MegaMahi | hmm |
| 02:01.45 | MegaMahi | you can tristate the pins |
| 02:02.18 | MegaMahi | possibly that resister is there to allwways hold to ground until what would be the software is loaded and it sets the chip to drive the pin |
| 02:02.40 | joe_bleau | Pretty beefy pulldown |
| 02:03.22 | MegaMahi | no clue just throwing the idea out |
| 02:04.04 | joe_bleau | Yeah, me too. |
| 02:04.13 | joe_bleau | Which pins are in question? |
| 02:04.25 | joe_bleau | 8 and 9? |
| 02:04.28 | MegaMahi | Pin 8 and 9 |
| 02:04.51 | MegaMahi | you got a scope or something? |
| 02:05.03 | MegaMahi | i only got a multi meter |
| 02:05.20 | joe_bleau | Oh yeah, I got a scope or something. |
| 02:06.53 | joe_bleau | I'd expect an simple character mode LCD interface to be a 2x7 or 2x8 layout |
| 02:07.37 | MegaMahi | hmm should probably recoat the bottom of this board, kinda sanded where the chip is to get to the copper layer to trace things back |
| 02:08.34 | joe_bleau | How'd that work out? I've been planning on using an x-acto to probe the BGA vias |
| 02:08.59 | MegaMahi | used like a fine paper and just lightly started workin at it |
| 02:09.17 | MegaMahi | i only did small sections where the manual said the gpio pins were |
| 02:10.05 | joe_bleau | I have a really hard time id'ing the grid...it doesn't look evenly spaced to my eyes. |
| 02:10.16 | MegaMahi | ya i know |
| 02:10.35 | MegaMahi | it didnt match to what was in the sheet for the chip |
| 02:10.53 | MegaMahi | one of the reasons why i started going at it with sandpaper |
| 02:11.34 | joe_bleau | Sliding my probes around, I can't see that 8 or 9 touch *anything* |
| 02:11.43 | joe_bleau | (J5-8 and J5-9, that is) |
| 02:11.52 | MegaMahi | ya |
| 02:12.10 | joe_bleau | I need a copper paint brush |
| 02:16.08 | MegaMahi | need to finish this list of crap to order for electronics parts, mostly stuff for theis board so i can get headers on it, and build a new jtag adapter |
| 02:16.46 | MegaMahi | other stuff for this RTP300 i got sitting here should start working on that again. |
| 02:42.41 | joe_bleau | Every time there's breaking news on the DHT-Walnut, it seems like I've got the bench set up for another project, |
| 02:42.54 | joe_bleau | or I'm working OT on work projects. Grrr. |
| 02:44.12 | joe_bleau | BTW, your GPIO discovery is a solid piece of work. Even if J5 is nothing more than some I/O lines, they'll come in handy. Thanks! |
| 02:46.29 | MegaMahi | hhopefully itll prove workable, now theres a way other than usb and i2 to talk to thingsgota figure how to get this GU311 VFD wired in, gonna order some amtel stuff soon |
| 02:49.33 | joe_bleau | Is the VFD a drop in for an LCD? If so, you might swing it in 4 bit mode, write only. |
| 02:50.54 | MegaMahi | no it isnt, not even a HD44780 |
| 02:51.11 | MegaMahi | graphical VFD, but its a very nice one |
| 02:51.25 | MegaMahi | can find them on ebay pretty cheap |
| 02:51.33 | joe_bleau | Oh, graphic. OK, nevermind then. |
| 02:52.03 | MegaMahi | i have a 4x16 little POS LCD not wired up jut sittin here |
| 02:52.10 | MegaMahi | probably use that for a display for this |
| 02:52.15 | MegaMahi | though i lacks a backlight |
| 02:52.17 | MegaMahi | it* |
| 02:52.34 | joe_bleau | Hey, if 8 and 9 really are floating, we can tie 'em to power and ground. |
| 02:52.55 | joe_bleau | Two I/O lines used for LEDs, that leaves 5? for the LCD interface? |
| 02:53.12 | joe_bleau | Need 4 for the bus, one for E, and one for A. Shoot. |
| 02:53.45 | joe_bleau | Oh, did you play around with the U5 pads at all? |
| 02:53.59 | joe_bleau | I suspect it's a micro (PIC, AVR, 8051 variant?) |
| 02:54.11 | joe_bleau | used to decode an IR remote control. |
| 02:54.28 | joe_bleau | Not sure how it's connected to the 405 though...UART, maybe? |
| 02:55.30 | MegaMahi | wtf |
| 02:55.36 | MegaMahi | there 2V again |
| 02:56.48 | MegaMahi | wait a tic they may be more gpios let me play with the rom moitror again |
| 02:57.36 | MegaMahi | they are! |
| 02:57.43 | MegaMahi | but what bits.. |
| 02:57.52 | MegaMahi | not the first 8 like the others |
| 03:02.04 | joe_bleau | bbiab...sounds like you're getting somewhere |
| 03:06.21 | GPSFan_ | MegaMahi: just read the scrollback, sounds like some real progress on J5, good work... could probably make an spi interface for a sd/mmc card like on the Zipit. |
| 03:18.07 | MegaMahi | 0x00400000 is pin 9, 0x00800000 is pin 8 |
| 03:18.26 | MegaMahi | so it does sorta spill over into the next byte |
| 03:19.38 | MegaMahi | doesnt hang the system |
| 03:21.34 | MegaMahi | well that solves it, should of moved to the next set of bits.. |
| 03:30.10 | GPSFan_ | MegaMahi: so of the 9 pins of J5 all are GPIO, and only 2 are used for led control? are they 5V or 3.3V levels? |
| 03:30.53 | MegaMahi | 3.3 |
| 03:31.04 | MegaMahi | hold on a bit these pins seem to be wired backasswards |
| 03:38.50 | GPSFan_ | ahh, in uboot-1.1.4 there is a soft-spi driver, so it "might" be possible to boot of an sd/mmc card instead of the ide. Don't know how such a system might be usefull vs. using a cf card. |
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| 03:43.44 | MegaMahi | holy crap im just not looking at my binary correctly today |
| 03:44.04 | MegaMahi | its sequential, Pin 1 - 9 is GPIO 1 -9 |
| 03:44.38 | MegaMahi | it just looked wierd cause im reading it in hex and was being stupid as to why it was counding down 4 2 1 8 4 2 1 |
| 03:53.03 | GPSFan_ | pin #'s to GPIO #'s is a nice touch! |
| 03:53.46 | MegaMahi | updating the wiki |
| 03:58.34 | MegaMahi | hmm |
| 03:59.34 | MegaMahi | ya know, that kernel module is toally stripped down and simple, once figuring out how to wire certian things, can use it as a template to build up modules for devices on that header |
| 04:08.05 | GPSFan_ | add a header to J5, steal vcc, gnd from J10. |
| 04:08.34 | MegaMahi | or J4 |
| 04:10.07 | GPSFan_ | I think j5 should have had power & gnd then a ribbon cable would have it all, j4 would work too, |
| 04:11.00 | MegaMahi | confirms my theory someone was asleep at the wheel over at DHT. :P |
| 04:11.24 | GPSFan_ | probably why the boards showed up surplus. |
| 04:11.31 | MegaMahi | ya |
| 04:12.15 | GPSFan_ | same thing with not bringing the other 2 sdram CS signals to the sdram socket. |
| 04:12.24 | jbevren | whats this about gpio on the dht? :) |
| 04:12.33 | MegaMahi | wiki page updated |
| 04:12.44 | GPSFan_ | jbevren: morning.. ;>) |
| 04:13.33 | jbevren | where's the gpio stuff on the wiki |
| 04:13.58 | MegaMahi | down where it has all the tutorials |
| 04:14.08 | jbevren | ah teh green media |
| 04:14.16 | jbevren | I was looking for 'gpio' heh |
| 04:15.00 | MegaMahi | added a picture to |
| 04:15.01 | jbevren | MegaMahi: so the mask you used in the sample code I tested is what crashed it as I suspected? |
| 04:15.16 | MegaMahi | probably |
| 04:15.49 | MegaMahi | until i looked at the manual again did i realize i was also smacking the IRQs in the face |
| 04:16.55 | MegaMahi | ill be correcting my little tarball file soon, also need to clean the gpio_test.c file, i dont have a way to get files off the board, so i had to hyperterminal it out |
| 04:17.19 | joe_bleau | Nice. Very nice work. |
| 04:17.21 | MegaMahi | leaving windows linefeed scars.. |
| 04:17.28 | jbevren | nod |
| 04:17.42 | jbevren | I was fortunate enough to have ethernet, but I installed rz/sz just in case heh |
| 04:18.35 | MegaMahi | i have ethernet and all that, but for some reason dropbear doenst work and im way lazy to have a full openssl/openssh |
| 04:18.53 | jbevren | heh. I run debian on mine |
| 04:19.07 | MegaMahi | ill be probably just dumping this install and starting with my clean root_fs again |
| 04:19.30 | MegaMahi | deabian ran fine, but i couldnt get mp3s to work right |
| 04:19.30 | jbevren | I was reading about linux on the mediamvp |
| 04:19.34 | jbevren | pretty cool in itself |
| 04:19.46 | jbevren | ahh, I havent tried audio |
| 04:19.49 | jbevren | someone else here did tho |
| 04:20.18 | MegaMahi | if your gonna use alsa you need to use the latest stable development versions |
| 04:20.59 | MegaMahi | not just the stable stable ones, those dont work right, and for some reason disable versioned symbols it seems to cause issues |
| 04:33.21 | GPSFan_ | MegaMahi: added the open drian reg and input reg to your wiki page.. |
| 04:36.46 | joe_bleau | GPSFan: typo on the wiki: correspondig |
| 04:37.04 | MegaMahi | thx |
| 04:37.19 | MegaMahi | currently rewriting the gpio_test.c file |
| 04:37.45 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: yeah, it's late and my typeing has gone to crap again... ;>) |
| 04:37.49 | GPSFan_ | thanks.. |
| 04:37.59 | joe_bleau | I'm looking at the tarball under winblows...what's the deal with the ._ files? |
| 04:38.52 | MegaMahi | heh, ya i use OSX for everything... so the .DS_Store files are there, thats something im fixing also |
| 04:39.03 | MegaMahi | have to many systems here... |
| 04:39.26 | joe_bleau | OS X resource fork stuff? |
| 04:39.30 | MegaMahi | ya |
| 04:39.36 | joe_bleau | Oh, I get it. |
| 04:40.19 | joe_bleau | I still think the way y'all talk about the bits is confusing. |
| 04:40.30 | MegaMahi | i have the board hooked to my XP box running HT, then i have a compile which is a P3 running slackware, and my G5 which |
| 04:40.40 | MegaMahi | is basicly my command post of sorts |
| 04:40.47 | MegaMahi | how so? |
| 04:40.55 | MegaMahi | the bits for J5? |
| 04:40.59 | joe_bleau | Is it 0x4, 0x40000000 or 0x400? |
| 04:41.30 | MegaMahi | when i say like 40000000 im factoring in the entire register |
| 04:41.58 | joe_bleau | Or bit 1, if you don't want to type all the 0s. |
| 04:41.59 | MegaMahi | i shortened it there, not exaclty the most aproperate way of doing it |
| 04:42.08 | GPSFan_ | joe_bleau: the reg's bit order is backwards form x86 |
| 04:42.15 | joe_bleau | Yep. |
| 04:42.21 | GPSFan_ | msb on the right |
| 04:42.33 | joe_bleau | In the pic, it's got GPIO1 as 0x400. That makes 0 sense to me. |
| 04:42.46 | joe_bleau | I'd call it either bit 1 or 0x40000000 |
| 04:42.50 | MegaMahi | first off, they have it odd |
| 04:43.18 | MegaMahi | they dont use the first bit(as in reading it english left to right) |
| 04:43.29 | joe_bleau | bit 0 is MSB, correct? |
| 04:43.31 | MegaMahi | so 10000000 in binary does nothing |
| 04:45.23 | MegaMahi | im going how the manual says it, and they show it left(bit 1) to right(bit 32) |
| 04:45.35 | joe_bleau | Well, y'all obviously know more about this stuff than I do. |
| 04:46.00 | joe_bleau | All I'm saying (and I'll stop soon), is that it's confusing to refer to bit 1 as alternately 0x4, 0x400, and 0x40000000 |
| 04:46.17 | joe_bleau | If I'm writing to a 32 bit port register to turn on GPIO 1, I'm gonna write 0x40000000 |
| 04:46.32 | GPSFan_ | each embedded proc can be unique, gotta go to the manual and "re-learn" it all from scratch sometimes. |
| 04:47.07 | MegaMahi | ya |
| 04:47.23 | MegaMahi | but im only dealing with the first 3 word sections |
| 04:48.34 | MegaMahi | as far s i know those are the only sections i can play with that dont effect anything important |
| 04:49.04 | joe_bleau | Ah, don't sweat it. I'm too dense tonight to grasp it. |
| 04:49.22 | GPSFan_ | nite all, time for zz'z |
| 04:49.42 | MegaMahi | cya |
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| 16:15.28 | prpplague | jbevren: ping |
| 16:16.29 | jbevren | poing. |
| 16:16.37 | jbevren | hey I'm reminded |
| 16:16.46 | jbevren | the adapter cart for the old games has all the slot's pins on it |
| 16:16.53 | jbevren | so it can be used for breakout once you remove the passives |
| 16:19.09 | prpplague | jbevren: nm, found the url i was looking for |
| 16:19.33 | prpplague | jbevren: on the pixter? |
| 16:20.32 | jbevren | yeah |
| 16:20.53 | jbevren | all the edge pads are present |
| 16:20.56 | jbevren | and nicely gold-plated |
| 16:21.52 | prpplague | cool |
| 16:37.46 | jbevren | have it shipped insured |
| 16:37.47 | jbevren | heh |
| 16:38.38 | prpplague | jbevren: doesn't matter, as long as it reaches customs, as far as the insurance is concerned, its been delivered |
| 16:39.19 | jbevren | ups does this? |
| 16:39.23 | jbevren | I thought they insured it to you rdoorstep |
| 16:40.59 | prpplague | jbevren: thats the standard in the states |
| 16:41.08 | prpplague | jbevren: doesn't include going through customs |
| 16:42.35 | jbevren | ah |
| 16:43.41 | prpplague | jbevren: in most countries outside of the US, fedex, DHL, and UPS all pay the gov to have a custom official work in their offices |
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