irclog2html for #edev on 20060413

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`02:31.54`	`sorphin`	`agaffney: heh, having fun yet?`
`02:32.49`	`agaffney`	`WRT54GS--`
`02:33.00`	`agaffney`	`there's no reason to reboot the router when changing the wireless channel :/`
`02:35.34`	`sorphin`	`ah`
`02:35.53`	`sorphin`	`but the wrt54g's running openwrt`
`02:35.55`	`sorphin`	`don't do that :)`
`02:36.41`	`agaffney`	`I originally got my 54GS ~1.5 years ago just to openwrt it`
`02:36.47`	`agaffney`	`but that never quite happened :P`
`02:36.51`	`sorphin`	`hehe`
`02:36.59`	`sorphin`	`my 54G's are strictly toys`
`02:37.03`	`agaffney`	`I keep meaning to do it, but it's my router`
`02:37.05`	`sorphin`	`$39.99 each :P`
`02:37.08`	`sorphin`	`hehe`
`02:37.09`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`02:37.11`	`agaffney`	`if I fsck it up, I've got not internet :P`
`02:37.15`	`agaffney`	`s:not:no:`
`02:37.19`	`sorphin`	`it's easy to fix`
`02:37.29`	`agaffney`	`yeah, I know`
`02:37.30`	`sorphin`	`if you 'brick' you just tftp it a firmware file`
`02:37.35`	`agaffney`	`right`
`02:37.41`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`02:37.46`	`agaffney`	`heh`
`02:37.56`	`sorphin`	`the moto one wasn't that easy`
`02:37.57`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`02:38.00`	`sorphin`	`which btw`
`02:38.02`	`sorphin`	`was $20`
`02:38.10`	`sorphin`	`and works fine for my wireless stuff`
`02:38.20`	`sorphin`	`hence the wrt's being toys`
`02:38.31`	`agaffney`	`I've got an older d-link (614+) I'm using as a switch`
`02:38.38`	`agaffney`	`it was my router before the 54GS`
`02:38.51`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`02:38.51`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`02:38.52`	`agaffney`	`but it had a nasty habit of resetting itself every few minutes under high load`
`02:39.04`	`agaffney`	`consistently`
`02:39.06`	`agaffney`	`only when routing`
`02:39.14`	`agaffney`	`it's fine just as a switch and an AP`
`02:39.24`	`sorphin`	`odd`
`02:39.35`	`agaffney`	`I've heard other people have the same problem`
`02:39.38`	`sorphin`	`stop streaming pr0n :P`
`02:39.41`	`sorphin`	`;)`
`02:39.43`	`agaffney`	`with a few d-link models`
`02:39.46`	`agaffney`	`I don't stream ;)`
`02:40.01`	`agaffney`	`fetch and save :P`
`02:40.04`	`sorphin`	`hehe`
`02:40.07`	`sorphin`	`that too`
`02:40.28`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`02:41.02`	`sorphin`	`my only complaint`
`02:41.08`	`sorphin`	`is they seem to use 544x480`
`02:42.01`	`agaffney`	`that's an odd resolution`
`02:42.16`	`sorphin`	`tivos use it at best resolution too`
`02:42.19`	`sorphin`	`it's 3/4 D1`
`02:43.01`	`agaffney`	`D1?`
`02:44.09`	`agaffney`	`I know the framerate difference between PAL/NTSC, and that's about where my knowledge ends :)`
`02:44.37`	`sorphin`	`D1`
`02:44.37`	`sorphin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:44.37`	`sorphin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:44.37`	`sorphin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:44.38`	`sorphin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:45.06`	`sorphin`	`then you have 3/4 D1, 1/2 D1, 1/4 D1`
`02:45.15`	`agaffney`	`hurray for vague/confusing standards :P`
`02:46.38`	`sorphin`	`i.e. 544x480, 352 X 576 and 352 x 240 respectively`
`02:46.59`	`sorphin`	`352x288 is 1/4 D1 PAL resolution`
`02:47.10`	`sorphin`	`then you have DVD resolutions`
`02:47.10`	`sorphin`	`lol`
`02:47.21`	`agaffney`	`352x240 is the only TV resolution I was aware of`
`02:47.22`	`sorphin`	`720x480 and 480x480 (which is also SVCD)`
`02:47.35`	`sorphin`	`your dvds are 720x480`
`02:47.56`	`sorphin`	`normal analog tv is generally running at 352x240, yes`
`02:48.01`	`sorphin`	`which is also what VCDs use`
`02:48.12`	`sorphin`	`since they're basically a small step away from a vcr`
`02:48.13`	`sorphin`	`lol`
`02:48.20`	`agaffney`	`heh`
`02:49.08`	`agaffney`	`I've got the walnut kernel recompiled for the USB card and audio`
`02:49.17`	`agaffney`	`I'll have to hook up a network cable and try it out`
`02:49.20`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`02:49.29`	`sorphin`	`is your rack in st louis yet?`
`02:49.29`	`sorphin`	`lol`
`02:49.36`	`agaffney`	`no :P`
`02:49.39`	`sorphin`	`hehe`
`02:49.41`	`agaffney`	`it won't be in town until friday`
`02:49.43`	`sorphin`	`well`
`02:49.48`	`sorphin`	`fedex is sometimes early`
`02:49.49`	`sorphin`	`:P`
`02:49.54`	`agaffney`	`yeah, I've seen that`
`02:49.55`	`sorphin`	`ups is always the late one`
`02:50.02`	`sorphin`	`i've had ups miss dates`
`02:50.03`	`agaffney`	`but it's coming from florida and was only shipped yesterday`
`02:50.09`	`sorphin`	`so?`
`02:50.15`	`agaffney`	`I've never had ups miss the date`
`02:50.22`	`sorphin`	`usually is about 2 days :P`
`02:50.58`	`agaffney`	`oh, you're got to be fscking kidding me`
`02:51.11`	`sorphin`	`"An Evening with Kevin Smith"`
`02:51.32`	`agaffney`	`mmm`
`02:51.33`	`agaffney`	`good stuff`
`02:51.42`	`sorphin`	`only movie i couldn't get into was dogma`
`02:51.51`	`agaffney`	`7:59pm yesterday, Arrived at Fedex location, FORT LAUDERDALE, FL`
`02:52.04`	`agaffney`	`7:17pm today, Left origin, FORT LAUDERDALE, FL`
`02:52.10`	`agaffney`	`Dogma is one of my favorites`
`02:52.20`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`02:52.25`	`sorphin`	`well, what's funny is`
`02:52.28`	`agaffney`	`it sat at the fedex location for an entire day`
`02:52.31`	`agaffney`	`:/`
`02:52.35`	`sorphin`	`once it hits lenexa, ks`
`02:52.44`	`sorphin`	`i know it'll be here the next morning`
`02:52.51`	`agaffney`	`right`
`02:53.04`	`agaffney`	`I've gotten plenty of packages via UPS and Fedex`
`02:53.09`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`02:53.24`	`agaffney`	`I'm sorry`
`02:53.33`	`sorphin`	`that's also why i won't ship via them if i have any control`
`02:53.34`	`sorphin`	`lol`
`02:53.46`	`agaffney`	`I've had horrible service with fedex`
`02:53.52`	`agaffney`	`ups has always been good`
`02:53.56`	`sorphin`	`whereas`
`02:53.59`	`sorphin`	`i've had the opposite`
`02:54.00`	`agaffney`	`what makes you think fedex would be any better?`
`02:54.19`	`sorphin`	`environment`
`02:54.20`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`02:54.54`	`agaffney`	`isn't fedex ground subcontracted out this way?`
`02:55.04`	`sorphin`	`eh?`
`02:55.09`	`agaffney`	`someone told me that`
`02:55.12`	`sorphin`	`no`
`02:55.27`	`sorphin`	`fedex gnd is what used to be RPS`
`02:55.32`	`sorphin`	`they were bought`
`02:55.36`	`agaffney`	`maybe that's what they were referring to`
`02:55.42`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`02:55.43`	`agaffney`	`yeah, I know fedex ground used to be another company`
`02:55.49`	`sorphin`	`can't be worse than DHL :P`
`02:55.56`	`sorphin`	`DHL trashed one of my traffic signals`
`02:56.07`	`agaffney`	`I've never had any interaction with DHL`
`02:56.13`	`agaffney`	`you have traffic signals? ;P`
`02:56.15`	`sorphin`	`pray you never do`
`02:56.17`	`sorphin`	`yes`
`02:56.19`	`agaffney`	`heh`
`02:56.25`	`agaffney`	`freak :)`
`02:56.28`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`02:56.38`	`sorphin`	`don't go there`
`02:56.53`	`agaffney`	`I love this song`
`02:56.58`	`agaffney`	`Trucks - It's just porn mom`
`02:57.28`	`sorphin`	`~heh`
`02:57.29`	`purl`	`heh`
`02:57.46`	`sorphin`	`'The internet is for porn"`
`02:57.47`	`sorphin`	`:P`
`02:57.58`	`agaffney`	`from the musical Avenue Q?`
`02:58.04`	`sorphin`	`i think so`
`02:58.13`	`sorphin`	`friend sent it`
`02:58.18`	`agaffney`	`a guy I work with lent me the soundtrack`
`02:58.21`	`sorphin`	`~lart agaffney`
`02:58.21`	`agaffney`	`quite funny :P`
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`02:59.07`	`gibot`	`grrrrr`
`02:59.20`	`agaffney`	`he's very territorial :P`
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`03:01.59`	`agaffney`	`eh, it's bedtime`
`03:02.00`	`sorphin`	`~cluebat agaffney`
`03:02.01`	`purl`	`ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps agaffney.`
`03:02.05`	`agaffney`	`I'll enjoy sleeping in on friday`
`03:02.22`	`agaffney`	`I can't usually sleep in even on weekends`
`03:02.26`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`03:02.29`	`agaffney`	`because it screws up my sleep schedule too much`
`03:02.40`	`agaffney`	`but a 4 day weekend gives me more time to recover :P`
`03:03.07`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`03:03.50`	`agaffney`	`time to test the walnut :)`
`03:04.13`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`03:05.12`	`agaffney`	`mmm...I see all sorts of USB-related stuff :)`
`03:06.23`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`03:09.34`	`agaffney`	`I just stole the wife's ipod earbugs`
`03:09.43`	`agaffney`	`s/earbugs/earbuds/`
`03:12.20`	`agaffney`	`hmm, it's choppy`
`03:15.53`	`agaffney`	`hmm, it looks like both the ehci and uchi drivers claimed the usb card`
`03:17.03`	`agaffney`	`usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2`
`03:17.10`	`agaffney`	`it looks like it's falling back to USB 1.1`
`03:17.16`	`agaffney`	`ehci is 2.0, right?`
`03:22.58`	`agaffney`	`I've got too many devices involved in this setup`
`03:23.03`	`agaffney`	`my amd64 has the tftpd`
`03:23.10`	`agaffney`	`my sparc has the NFSd`
`03:23.32`	`agaffney`	`and I use my dual G4 tower for building stuff in the nfsroot :)`
`03:41.52`	`jbevren`	`http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/11/how-to-rackmount-your-gear-for-cheap/`
`03:41.54`	`jbevren`	`fun`
`03:42.05`	`jbevren`	`agaffney: Thats almost as convoluted as my workstation :0`
`03:42.29`	`jbevren`	`my winbox's keyboard and mouse are put aside, and I use the sparcstation's console to control it via x2vnc`
`03:42.45`	`jbevren`	`said sparcstation has no audio, so I run esound on the winbox, and xmms on the sparcstation`
`03:43.03`	`jbevren`	`the fun part is the SS runs XLST, xmms runs on a server in the basement`
`03:43.06`	`agaffney`	`I'm currently using some of that shelving for some of my equipment`
`03:43.16`	`jbevren`	`heh. perfect then:)`
`03:43.24`	`agaffney`	`I want to get rid of it :P`
`03:43.28`	`jbevren`	`lol`
`03:43.29`	`jbevren`	`doh`
`03:43.35`	`jbevren`	`make a rack of it :)`
`03:44.03`	`agaffney`	`I've got a real rack coming :)`
`03:44.10`	`jbevren`	`so Ive heard :)`
`03:44.30`	`jbevren`	`the local hardware store sells rails with the right hole pattern`
`03:44.42`	`jbevren`	`so one of these weekends we're going to get together (friends and I) and build rack frames for em`
`03:44.53`	`agaffney`	`heh`
`03:45.02`	`jbevren`	`hick-style (2x4 lumber framing)`
`03:45.12`	`agaffney`	`I was going to do something like that`
`03:45.21`	`agaffney`	`but my wife would kill me for an eyesore like that`
`03:45.30`	`jbevren`	`one of my friends still has the 2x4 'rack' we made :)`
`03:45.38`	`agaffney`	`heh`
`03:45.56`	`jbevren`	`equipment bolted on with deck screws`
`03:46.03`	`agaffney`	`hah`
`03:47.17`	`jbevren`	`hmm matched pair of 933mhz p3's`
`03:48.59`	`agaffney`	`uhh, ok`
`03:49.00`	`agaffney`	`wtf`
`03:49.07`	`agaffney`	`now the usb audio device isn't being detected`
`03:49.16`	`agaffney`	`power light isn't even coming on`
`03:49.25`	`agaffney`	`but the kernel sees the USB card as EHCI`
`03:49.28`	`agaffney`	`detects 4 ports`
`03:49.58`	`jbevren`	`crazy`
`03:50.04`	`jbevren`	`most HCI's have 4 ports`
`03:50.06`	`jbevren`	`even if the card has 2`
`03:55.47`	`agaffney`	`will a USB 1.1 device not work with the EHCI driver?`
`03:55.58`	`agaffney`	`is that why UHCI was attaching to the card as well?`
`03:56.05`	`agaffney`	`my usb stick is seen just fine`
`04:12.12`	`sorphin`	`ehci is only usb 2.0`
`04:12.18`	`sorphin`	`uhci/ohci is 1.1`
`04:12.35`	`sorphin`	`ehci controllers generally have uhci/ohci for 1.1 speeds as well`
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`12:01.46`	`agaffney`	`sorphin: I kinda doubt this package will go through KS`
`12:02.11`	`agaffney`	`to get to KS from Orlando (where it was this morning), they'd have to pass right by Earth City on 70 :P`
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`12:52.05`	`prpplague`	`GPSFan: hey hey`
`12:52.09`	`prpplague`	`GPSFan: whts cookin?`
`13:02.53`	`sorphin`	`agaffney: and it's UPS that hits lenexa ;)`
`13:06.54`	`sorphin`	`agaffney: i've had stuff bounce through memphis on UPS that i wasn't sure why it had to go through there when here (the destination) was closer.. either bad sorting, or that's where the semi was going`
`13:07.15`	`GPSFan`	`prpplague: sorphin: morning.. not much, spring is here. beautiful weather, not much time for computer work. ;>(`
`13:07.50`	`sorphin`	`GPSFan: morning sir`
`13:10.30`	`prpplague`	`sorphin: yea, sometimes we get fedex stuff that ends up on other islands when coming from puerto rico`
`13:12.11`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`13:14.59`	`prpplague`	`our new product line will have dual kernel and ramdisks`
`13:15.22`	`prpplague`	`the bootloader will be able to determine if the system needs to boot into the primary kernel/ramdisk or the secondary`
`13:15.33`	`prpplague`	`the secondary will be for updating the firmware and such`
`13:19.25`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`13:19.26`	`sorphin`	`neat`
`13:19.31`	`jbevren`	`cool`
`13:19.39`	`jbevren`	`the gp2x uses a modified uboot to update firmware`
`13:19.50`	`jbevren`	`if the kernel image is on a readable mmc, it'll flash it`
`13:20.02`	`jbevren`	`unfortunately, I have yet to find a mmc that uboot can read`
`13:21.25`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`13:21.33`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: yea the uboot code sucks`
`13:21.36`	`sorphin`	`what about my nice 256M mmc that i use in my Zaurus?`
`13:21.37`	`sorphin`	`hehe`
`13:21.43`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: could try porting apex to the gp2x`
`13:22.22`	`prpplague`	`sorphin: yea, sd/mmc all have to support the SPI interface anyway`
`13:22.32`	`prpplague`	`sorphin: sd are cheaper these days`
`13:22.37`	`jbevren`	`as far as bootloaders are concerned, I imagine the gp2x is pretty simple. ARM920T with nand flash and serial port`
`13:23.03`	`jbevren`	`prpplague: Yep. that's why I'm baffled with the gp2x's compatibility issues with some mmc's`
`13:23.19`	`jbevren`	`post-boot the mmc works fine`
`13:24.17`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: let me speak from experience`
`13:24.25`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: there is nothing simple about bootloaders`
`13:24.30`	`jbevren`	`heh`
`13:24.32`	`jbevren`	`I dount doubt it`
`13:24.46`	`prpplague`	`thats why i find them so challenging`
`13:24.51`	`prpplague`	`not many people work with them`
`13:25.00`	`prpplague`	`and every system is totally different`
`13:25.06`	`jbevren`	`brb`
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`13:41.09`	`sorphin`	`prpplague: but this MMC wasn't too bad, and reasonably fast.. sd still isnt' that fast`
`13:41.12`	`sorphin`	`that i recall`
`13:44.48`	`prpplague`	`sorphin: hmm, specs are the same when using mmc or spi mode`
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`13:52.30`	`sorphin`	`i dunno`
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`13:52.34`	`sorphin`	`i just use em`
`13:52.36`	`sorphin`	`not support em`
`13:53.18`	`prpplague`	`sorphin: yea, mmc cards support mmc protocol and spi, sd cards support sd protocol mmc protocol and spi`
`13:53.39`	`prpplague`	`sorphin: if you use a sd card in mmc mode, as far as the system is concerned you have a mmc card`
`13:53.46`	`prpplague`	`sorphin: doesn't know the difference`
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`14:24.35`	`prpplague^2`	`hehe, sco is gonna have so much fun tomorrow`
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`14:28.45`	`prpplague`	`hehe scox lawyers are reallllly digging themselves into a hole`
`14:29.08`	`prpplague`	`judge wells is sure to grow tired of them play fast and loose with the court rules`
`14:32.03`	`prpplague`	`holy cow!!`
`14:32.05`	`prpplague`	`~quote scox`
`14:32.39`	`prpplague`	`scox is on the verge of a complete lose in court and their stock price is going _up_`
`14:49.56`	`prpplague`	`muhahaha`
`14:50.03`	`prpplague`	`mutant juicebox from helllllll`
`14:50.43`	`ohsix`	`what's up with sco this time? big deadline coming up?`
`14:52.00`	`prpplague`	`ohsix: yea tomorrow`
`14:52.10`	`prpplague`	`ohsix: ibm has them on the ropes`
`14:52.29`	`prpplague`	`ohsix: big hearing to through out 98% of their claims`
`14:52.30`	`ohsix`	`trial entering fullblast mode?`
`14:52.39`	`prpplague`	`ohsix: yea starting to get that way`
`14:52.48`	`prpplague`	`ohsix: sco's lawyers can't hide any more`
`14:52.58`	`prpplague`	`ohsix: hehe, no more excuses`
`14:54.12`	`jbevren`	`prpplague: mutant jb? :P`
`14:54.34`	`ohsix`	`i hope it's all out in the open some day so we can see what all the hubbub was about :P`
`14:56.43`	`sorphin`	`prpplague: i heard that it's slower though (sd)`
`14:57.08`	`sorphin`	`and Novell is requesting an arbitration`
`14:57.55`	`sorphin`	`SCO is a litigation company now, nothing more, they're nothing like the original Santa Cruse`
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`15:18.52`	`prpplague`	`hehe have a juicebox interfaced to a cdrom drive`
`15:18.57`	`prpplague`	`to play audio cd's`
`15:25.18`	`jbevren`	`isnt that a little.. overboard? :)`
`15:25.43`	`jbevren`	`I guess most cdroms can play audio cds on their own anywa`
`15:25.44`	`jbevren`	`y`
`15:26.13`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: you need something to start it`
`15:26.23`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: since most don't have play buttons`
`15:26.25`	`jbevren`	`nod`
`15:26.32`	`jbevren`	`my old creative drive had play/pause on the front heh`
`15:26.36`	`jbevren`	`but most dont`
`15:26.40`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: plus i'm gonna see about adding some code to read mp3's`
`15:26.48`	`jbevren`	`that'd be cool`
`15:26.50`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: just an exercise`
`15:26.57`	`jbevren`	`yeps`
`15:27.00`	`jbevren`	`the JB has enough IO?`
`15:27.08`	`jbevren`	`http://zuma.phire.org/pics/mirccar2.jpg`
`15:27.10`	`jbevren`	`that's cute`
`15:27.24`	`jbevren`	`a snow glider made of balsa and r/c parts`
`15:27.29`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: you can run atapi in 8-bit but most people use 16`
`15:28.02`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: hehe yea`
`15:29.06`	`jbevren`	`prpplague: really`
`15:29.08`	`jbevren`	`I didnt know that`
`15:29.16`	`jbevren`	`I thought it was 16bit only hehe`
`15:29.24`	`jbevren`	`or am I thinking of the old ide interface`
`15:29.28`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: yea its in the spec, but everyone uses 16`
`15:30.02`	`jbevren`	`cool`
`16:00.16`	`jbevren`	`http://shapelock.com/index.html`
`16:00.18`	`jbevren`	`interesting material`
`16:00.26`	`jbevren`	`low-temp thermoplastic`
`16:30.36`	`prpplague`	`jbevren: you can connect the 8 data lines and issue a command that tells it to do transfers in only 8-bit mode`
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`19:52.05`	`prpplague`	`T0mW: you ide interface for the tuxscreen was that 8 or 16 bit?`
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`21:54.01`	`agaffney`	`anyone have any ideas on where to start tracking down choppy audip with a usb audio device on the walnut?`
`21:54.12`	`jbevren`	`playing wave files too?`
`21:54.29`	`jbevren`	`oh, what mp3 player are you using? (libmad?)`
`21:54.43`	`jbevren`	`if youre not already doing so, find a nice integer-only mp3 decoder`
`21:54.58`	`jbevren`	`btw, asterisk doesnt work well on them either`
`21:57.00`	`agaffney`	`mpg321`
`21:57.08`	`agaffney`	`I'm gonna try outputting to a file`
`21:57.14`	`agaffney`	`and then cat'ing that file to /dev/snd/dsp`
`21:57.26`	`jbevren`	`nod`
`21:57.34`	`jbevren`	`use mpg321 -t as well`
`21:57.40`	`jbevren`	`see if it takes longer to decode than the file really is`
`21:57.54`	`jbevren`	`I think mpg321 expects a fpu to be present`
`21:59.12`	`agaffney`	`running 'time mpg321 -t blah.mp3'`
`21:59.31`	`agaffney`	`[1:00] Decoding of train - drops of jupiter.mp3 finished.`
`21:59.32`	`agaffney`	`real0m57.193s`
`21:59.51`	`agaffney`	`looks fine`
`22:04.38`	`agaffney`	`which player would you recommend?`
`22:05.32`	`jbevren`	`hm`
`22:05.38`	`jbevren`	`madplay?`
`22:05.41`	`jbevren`	`have you tried a wav file?`
`22:05.46`	`agaffney`	`no, not yet`
`22:05.52`	`agaffney`	`I suppose I should try to find one`
`22:05.53`	`jbevren`	`that'll be the cinch`
`22:05.59`	`jbevren`	`make one with mpg321 :)`
`22:06.03`	`jbevren`	`mpg321 -w out.wav file.mp3`
`22:06.08`	`jbevren`	`(I think)`
`22:06.27`	`agaffney`	`ah, I just tried something like that`
`22:06.31`	`agaffney`	`I used -s instead, though`
`22:06.33`	`agaffney`	`didn't work very well`
`22:08.25`	`agaffney`	`I don't suppose I can just cat the .wav to /dev/dsp :P`
`22:08.51`	`jbevren`	`the idea is to see if its the mp3 decoding thats causing the chop :)`
`22:08.57`	`agaffney`	`right`
`22:09.03`	`agaffney`	`but I need something to play the WAV file :)`
`22:09.10`	`jbevren`	`sox`
`22:09.26`	`jbevren`	`alsaplayer-nogui? hehe`
`22:13.17`	`sunrunner20`	`mpg123?`
`22:14.00`	`sunrunner20`	`mpg can play waves probally`
`22:14.40`	`agaffney`	`mpg123 doesn't like it`
`22:14.47`	`agaffney`	`and mpg321 tries to decode it as MPEG`
`22:14.54`	`agaffney`	`Playing MPEG stream from train - drops of jupiter.wav ...`
`22:15.02`	`agaffney`	`MPEG 1.0 layer I, 11 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo`
`22:15.26`	`jbevren`	`there's probably a retarded header on it`
`22:15.29`	`jbevren`	`the file's broken :)`
`22:15.37`	`jbevren`	`a "good" player ignores that header`
`22:15.55`	`jbevren`	`anyway`
`22:15.56`	`jbevren`	`gotta fly`
`22:15.58`	`jbevren`	`see ya :)`
`22:16.01`	`agaffney`	`later`
`22:16.16`	`jbevren`	`88 out`
`22:16.17`	`jbevren`	`whew`
`22:16.22`	`jbevren`	`click`
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`22:29.21`	`agaffney`	`jbevren: yep, looks like a fp problem`
`22:29.27`	`agaffney`	`madplay isn't choppy`
`22:29.54`	`agaffney`	`although, sox just gives me static when I play the WAV file`
`22:32.06`	`agaffney`	`but sox on amd64 played the same file fine`
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