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| 07:53.51 | T0mW | sorphin: good morning |
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| 13:02.24 | T0mW | GPSFan: morning ken |
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| 13:48.32 | GPSFan | T0mW: hi, happy Easter.. did the Easter Bunny leave you lots of presents? |
| 14:40.03 | T0mW | GPSFan: Oh, so that was why that big rabbit was sneakin about my yard? I killed & cooked him. |
| 14:54.35 | agaffney | rabbit stew! |
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| 18:29.49 | T0mW | anyone work with the ENC28J60 before? I'm having trouble choosing a magnetic |
| 18:32.52 | joe_bleau | Hasn't prpplague been talking about it the last few weeks? |
| 18:33.13 | T0mW | Yeah, but Dave doesn't work weekends |
| 18:33.28 | joe_bleau | He was here yesterday. |
| 18:33.31 | T0mW | the slimy so-and-so takes off |
| 18:33.40 | T0mW | ;) |
| 18:34.08 | joe_bleau | I think he just drops in on the weekend to show off his intra-island ppp connection that he rigged up. |
| 18:34.13 | joe_bleau | ;-) |
| 18:34.15 | T0mW | he wouldn't have to work as hard if he worked weekends too |
| 18:34.35 | T0mW | ~prpplague |
| 18:34.37 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, prpplague is mailto:danders@amltd.com or Dave Anders |
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| 19:53.32 | T0mW | geez, how stupid can someone get? |
| 19:54.34 | T0mW | I have an RJ45 magnetics/jack, they don't denote where pin 1 is in any of their drawings. Yes, I probably could assUme which it is... |
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| 20:05.52 | joe_bleau | Can you beep it out? |
| 20:06.29 | T0mW | they even left a critical dimension out! |
| 20:07.38 | T0mW | there is a "lip" on the connector which is supposed to clear the PCB, they don't give you the dimension of the lip, it has no reference. |
| 20:08.26 | T0mW | ah, well, the connector is cheap to buy, so they must figure you get what you pay for? |
| 20:08.54 | T0mW | joe_bleau: I don't have the physical part, just working off drawings right now. |
| 20:10.26 | T0mW | <sigh> |
| 20:10.59 | T0mW | maybe they need help there, like short handed on employees? heh |
| 20:13.12 | T0mW | joe_bleau: I'm taking an Ampenol RJ45 and using that as a starting point for thier connector. |
| 20:13.41 | T0mW | sub/Ampenol/Amphenol/ |
| 20:14.20 | T0mW | s/Ampenol/Amphenol/ |
| 20:14.31 | T0mW | duh, stupid bot does it here too |
| 20:21.17 | T0mW | OH! the document has on it "For Reference Only", so I suppose this is not a "real" drawing after all? LOL |
| 20:40.20 | joe_bleau | I hate designing without physical parts in my hand. Too easy to go wrong. |
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| 22:05.27 | T0mW | joe_bleau: yeah, smd footprints really got to me for a while. I'd end up ordering the wrong part for what I put on the board and they wouldn't fit: SOP vs TSSOP |
| 22:39.38 | joe_bleau | Could be worse...reverse TSOP usually doesn't work on a TSOP footprint. (I haven't done that one myself, yet...) |
| 22:40.09 | joe_bleau | Once did a board and the layout guy converted the metric TQFP spacing to imperial, but he didn't convert the |
| 22:40.36 | joe_bleau | pins, just the spacing. Over the part (144 pins, I think?) the tolerance stackup from the rounding error was pretty ugly. |
| 22:40.46 | joe_bleau | He's not made that mistake again. |
| 23:33.37 | T0mW | joe_bleau: yeah, I was using an old Orcad package to do SMD for a short time. It only did inches, no metric. Enough of that pain I and I got myself a "real" layout package, well, Eagle anyway. |
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