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| 13:38.55 | prpplague | ShortWave: hey, long time no see |
| 13:39.34 | jbevren | Morning prp |
| 13:39.56 | prpplague | jbevren: hey |
| 13:40.42 | ShortWave | Howdy |
| 13:40.46 | ShortWave | Been busy and all |
| 13:40.48 | ShortWave | werk |
| 13:40.50 | ShortWave | arrrghh |
| 13:40.52 | ShortWave | SO what's doing? |
| 13:41.22 | ShortWave | Any good juicebox news? Like...did someone come up with a bootable pack for it? |
| 13:41.23 | prpplague | the same |
| 13:41.40 | prpplague | had a bootable pack for ages |
| 13:41.52 | ShortWave | show me the way |
| 13:42.39 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBoxUMDCart |
| 13:43.16 | ShortWave | Ooh seksy |
| 13:43.22 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceWareXdSocket |
| 13:46.54 | jbevren | hm |
| 13:47.06 | ShortWave | Spiffy |
| 13:47.09 | ShortWave | I'm diggin it |
| 13:47.12 | jbevren | I wonder if such an adapter and a disk editor (or dd in linux) could flash bootable juice roms |
| 13:47.32 | prpplague | jbevren: ?? |
| 13:47.53 | jbevren | prpplague: I seem to remember an issue with using an XD card in a standard card reader to flash your custom uclinux image |
| 13:47.59 | jbevren | or reading about it |
| 13:48.10 | jbevren | you'd have to flash the xd from within the juicebox to get the rom working |
| 13:48.25 | jbevren | we'll consider rom to be the general term referring to the juiceware custom cartridge |
| 13:48.30 | prpplague | jbevren: right because most xD card readers don't allow access to the oob |
| 13:48.39 | jbevren | ahh |
| 13:48.51 | jbevren | so the mmc adapter would similarly not allow this access? |
| 13:49.36 | prpplague | jbevren: ?? |
| 13:49.43 | jbevren | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceWareXdSocket |
| 13:49.50 | jbevren | the mmc adapter pictured therein |
| 13:50.01 | jbevren | the page sacrifices the adapter to get the socket |
| 13:50.20 | prpplague | where do you see a mmc adapter? |
| 13:50.28 | jbevren | but my question is whether or not using the mmc adapter in a mmc writer would allow access to flash working .. |
| 13:50.37 | prpplague | where do you see mmc? |
| 13:50.50 | jbevren | oh |
| 13:50.51 | jbevren | its smartmedia |
| 13:50.53 | jbevren | ignore me |
| 13:50.54 | jbevren | :D |
| 13:52.07 | jbevren | so that said.. hehe |
| 13:52.18 | jbevren | I hadn't seen the adapter socket, pretty cool |
| 13:56.22 | prpplague | jbevren: at the bottom of the UMD page you can see the Q&A about the xD flash |
| 13:57.09 | jbevren | nod |
| 13:57.21 | jbevren | Ive read that also. I'll have to poke at it some time |
| 13:57.35 | prpplague | jbevren: i've also used a ft2232 chip to do it from usb port |
| 13:57.44 | jbevren | I'd like to (but probably never will) replace the otp rom in my jb with a flash rom heh |
| 13:57.50 | jbevren | prpplague: yeah |
| 13:57.59 | jbevren | I have one with a sx52 on its heiny |
| 13:58.12 | jbevren | 24+4 digital IO's |
| 13:58.21 | jbevren | no idea why the spare four arent counted in the device desc |
| 13:58.45 | prpplague | jbevren: you could use that to program the flash |
| 13:59.01 | jbevren | nod |
| 13:59.14 | jbevren | I just need to get/make a juiceware cart heh |
| 14:05.54 | agaffney | anyone know where sorphin is? |
| 14:06.07 | agaffney | he left the channel about a week ago and hasn't reappeared since |
| 14:08.59 | prpplague | agaffney: who knows, he is pretty moody |
| 14:09.30 | agaffney | heh |
| 14:12.10 | ShortWave | sorphin? |
| 14:12.17 | ShortWave | moody? |
| 14:12.23 | ShortWave | Is this someone I know under a different name? |
| 14:17.31 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:26.11 | flybackX | prpplague |
| 14:26.22 | flybackX | can you please clear the ban so I don't have to use a 3rd mirc client |
| 14:26.28 | flybackX | this pc is falling apart as it is |
| 14:27.27 | flybackX | although my sempron 3100+ will be up and running soon |
| 14:29.24 | ShortWave | wheee |
| 14:29.43 | ShortWave | http://www.stormwind-studios.com/Art/MobileGunPlatform.jpg <---proposed use for a juicebox |
| 14:29.47 | flybackX | whoa |
| 14:29.54 | ShortWave | heh |
| 14:29.54 | flybackX | you guys still kicking around the juiceboxes? |
| 14:29.59 | ShortWave | Made that meself |
| 14:30.01 | flybackX | I was about to start selling mine off |
| 14:30.14 | flybackX | btw the local kmart has mp3 kits down to $10 probably lower now |
| 14:30.20 | flybackX | last time I checked I think they had 15 |
| 14:30.38 | ShortWave | I need to get the mp3 kit sos I can make a bootable cart, sos I can then control some stuff |
| 14:30.44 | ShortWave | Need a serial control output tho |
| 14:30.45 | flybackX | actually bro |
| 14:30.49 | flybackX | you don't need the mp3 kit at all |
| 14:30.55 | ShortWave | yeah I know, but that's the cheapest way |
| 14:31.02 | flybackX | hmm true |
| 14:31.30 | flybackX | I just found out how to hack lithium battery packs |
| 14:31.36 | flybackX | well reset the onboard smart chip |
| 14:31.43 | flybackX | in case the chip has gotten confused and shut off |
| 14:31.50 | flybackX | or if you replace the cells yourself and need to reset it |
| 14:32.18 | flybackX | I got 4 dead dell inspiron 3200 packs I figure I can swap cells around to get one working pack |
| 14:33.47 | flybackX | i'll have to pick some brains soon I just got my palm t5 back from the shop, they did a excellent job, appears the display was bad from the beginning and I already loaded a test linux bootloader setup on it |
| 14:33.56 | flybackX | but it's not finding the rootfs |
| 14:34.14 | flybackX | so what's the progress on the dht-walnut since I was last here |
| 14:36.15 | flybackX | man I gotta show you guys the low level hd hacks I discovered |
| 14:36.18 | jbevren | everything works. LEDs GIPOs etc :P |
| 14:36.22 | flybackX | cool |
| 14:36.32 | jbevren | mine is running a scsi scanner (on eboard) |
| 14:36.40 | jbevren | and an xterminal with usb2.0 and matrox graphics (another) |
| 14:36.53 | flybackX | i'm going to try to run to staples in a bit and get a few 485va ups's on sale $19 no rebates |
| 14:36.57 | jbevren | the scanner one runs a sane net backend ;-) |
| 14:37.02 | flybackX | neat |
| 14:37.08 | flybackX | mine is going to be router/firewall |
| 14:37.32 | flybackX | I got some 12 volt 4.5ah batteries lead acid for $7 in walmart clearance they were some rc car that didnt' sell well |
| 14:37.44 | flybackX | figure I can make some kinda continious ups for the dht |
| 14:39.54 | jbevren | my cousin has a walmart tank that uses those |
| 14:40.05 | jbevren | are they standard or sealed lead-acid? |
| 14:40.42 | flybackX | sla |
| 14:40.53 | flybackX | even came with a funky 500ma charger |
| 14:41.38 | flybackX | hell I have a laptop 486-100 that will run off them so if nothing else I can make a display in my car to insult bad drivers ;) |
| 14:41.56 | flybackX | runs a few hrs in fact |
| 14:42.34 | flybackX | other thing I might attempt is to build a 12 to 14.4 stepup circuit and run my other laptops off them by fooling the battery circuit |
| 14:42.46 | flybackX | lithium are too damn expensive to buy for a $50 PII 300 laptop |
| 14:42.51 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:43.09 | flybackX | hey did those other routers yield anything? |
| 14:43.11 | flybackX | the $5 ones |
| 14:43.12 | jbevren | I have a 48vdc power system |
| 14:43.16 | flybackX | oh nice |
| 14:43.18 | flybackX | POE ? |
| 14:43.19 | jbevren | it supports batteries but the batteries are all bad |
| 14:43.23 | jbevren | no, rackmount |
| 14:43.30 | flybackX | what does it take |
| 14:43.32 | flybackX | just sla ? |
| 14:43.32 | jbevren | 48vdc, 15A |
| 14:43.37 | jbevren | its from lucent tech |
| 14:43.44 | jbevren | uses a custom battery box filled with 6v SLA's |
| 14:43.48 | flybackX | get some deep cycle batts |
| 14:43.56 | flybackX | just make sure they are vented and you add water once a month |
| 14:44.03 | jbevren | heh no. :) I'm not putting outdoor batteries in my basement :) |
| 14:44.04 | flybackX | lot cheaper and more capacity |
| 14:44.14 | flybackX | dude you build a little battery box outside |
| 14:44.22 | flybackX | run the power in thru a pvc pipe or something |
| 14:44.33 | jbevren | I dont own the building, or I honestly would |
| 14:44.33 | flybackX | or just get sla |
| 14:44.42 | flybackX | depends what you could afford and how much capacity you need |
| 14:44.45 | jbevren | yep |
| 14:44.55 | flybackX | my grandma's house is so old I can just vent them in the basement :P |
| 14:45.08 | flybackX | it would take yrs and a lot of batteries to build up enough hydrogen |
| 14:45.13 | flybackX | :P |
| 14:45.47 | flybackX | cource I have 1 working ups and might get a few today plus I have 2 others I can fix and putup with those sla's I have so I might not even bother trying to use a wet cell |
| 14:45.51 | jbevren | heh. shrug |
| 14:46.20 | flybackX | well I gotta scoot if I want to get any of these ups's on sale they are proabbly already all gone :/ |
| 14:46.22 | flybackX | bbl |
| 14:50.38 | flybackX | oh yeah |
| 14:50.38 | flybackX | http://flyback.databurn.net/inventory.txt |
| 14:50.38 | flybackX | not all of that is for sale and not everything is up |
| 14:50.39 | flybackX | but if anyone sees something interesting let me know |
| 14:50.41 | flybackX | bbl |
| 15:05.16 | prpplague | crap crap crap, i need to talk to some of the s3c24xx kernel developers and no one is online |
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| 15:47.33 | flybackX | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.40 | flybackX | so I take it that samsung part is popular then? |
| 15:47.58 | jbevren | it is |
| 15:48.02 | flybackX | neat |
| 15:48.03 | jbevren | its cheap:) |
| 15:48.14 | flybackX | yeah but does it work :P |
| 15:48.44 | prpplague | flybackX: works great |
| 15:49.29 | flybackX | cool |
| 15:49.34 | flybackX | is that the same one as the juicebox |
| 15:49.45 | flybackX | wow sgi just went chap 11, like anyone didn't see this coming ;) |
| 15:50.08 | jbevren | if you sail on teh itanic |
| 15:50.10 | jbevren | youre going to sink. |
| 15:50.14 | flybackX | hahaha |
| 15:50.30 | jbevren | its a sad moment though |
| 15:50.32 | flybackX | actually it's not a bad cpu afaik |
| 15:50.36 | flybackX | for really high end |
| 15:50.38 | jbevren | SGI is one of the few remaining innovators |
| 15:50.52 | flybackX | just intel pissed off the entire industry trying to ram rod everyone |
| 15:51.14 | jbevren | http://www.jbevren.net/pixter/pixterboard-overhead.jpg |
| 15:51.16 | jbevren | I was going to post that |
| 15:51.21 | jbevren | but thats the sharp, not the samsung :) |
| 15:51.35 | flybackX | ok I think I am going to take a gamble and drive to staples and see if they have any ups's left |
| 15:51.37 | flybackX | bbl |
| 15:51.43 | jbevren | I thought you were going earlier |
| 15:51.45 | jbevren | lol |
| 15:51.56 | flybackX | tried to find something to take with me |
| 15:52.04 | flybackX | finish a pc for my uncle while I am in the area |
| 15:55.02 | jbevren | gotcha |
| 15:55.04 | jbevren | enjoy |
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| 18:50.38 | jbevren | They never stop thinking about ways to harm our country and our people. And Neither do we. |
| 18:50.48 | jbevren | (gwbush, referring to terrorists) |
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| 21:42.35 | flybackX | heh they had 4 left of that 485va/260 watt cyber power ups at staples for $19 so I bought four :P |
| 21:43.29 | flybackX | they have both usb and serial port for comm |
| 21:47.59 | flybackX | oh yeah btw it appears it's the same model as a larger one just with a bigger battery so you can mod them easily |
| 21:57.52 | jbevren | right, to get more capacity, but not more watts |
| 21:58.10 | flybackX | correct |
| 21:58.15 | flybackX | actually you can get more watts |
| 21:58.22 | flybackX | cause this inverter is the same as the larger model |
| 21:58.23 | flybackX | :p |
| 21:58.42 | flybackX | but since they have a 3 yr warrenty I am not going to mod them any time soon |
| 21:58.46 | jbevren | a friend has a 960va unit in storage |
| 21:58.53 | jbevren | I just have to drive 3h to pick it up :) |
| 21:59.05 | jbevren | it uses an 8051 to generate a sinewave, which is fed to the FETs |
| 21:59.08 | jbevren | hehe |
| 21:59.24 | flybackX | I have a apc300 watt, a classic steel apc like 200 watt I have 2 but one needs totally put back together like 30 wires |
| 21:59.26 | jbevren | anyway, he's battery-smart; he charged it up and disconnected the SLA's before storing it |
| 21:59.32 | flybackX | good |
| 21:59.50 | flybackX | I have a spare 4.2ah, 7ah both used and somewhat worn out |
| 21:59.56 | flybackX | and 2 4.5ah I got for $7 each new |
| 22:00.14 | flybackX | so I am going to keep 2 of these new ups, one goes to mom, one goes to church |
| 22:00.20 | flybackX | between all these I should be in good shape :) |
| 22:01.41 | flybackX | I might actually since my dht-walnut is +12 in make a ups for it instead of bothering with one |
| 22:02.04 | flybackX | it is possible to have something run off a inverter, have a charger keeping the battery charged |
| 22:02.13 | flybackX | but prevent the inverter from tryign to run off the charger |
| 22:02.59 | flybackX | one thing you could do is have a charger with enough current to run the inverter also |
| 22:03.04 | flybackX | but then you risk overcharging the battery |
| 22:03.08 | flybackX | ugh |
| 22:04.05 | flybackX | I know if you ran a laptop off the battery contacts to a external battery you can prevent the laptop from trying to charge that battery using 1 diode |
| 22:04.10 | flybackX | but that's as much as I know |
| 22:05.34 | flybackX | guess there really isn't any easy way to do this |
| 22:06.30 | flybackX | anyone know of a good linux forensic tool for scanning a old or damaged hd for words |
| 22:06.36 | flybackX | could eb dos too I don't care |
| 22:06.49 | flybackX | trying to clear out my 52hd's get rid of the junk ones |
| 22:06.53 | flybackX | but I need to make sure nothing is left on them |
| 22:19.41 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:19.48 | jbevren | see ya, out for the eve |
| 22:20.14 | flybackX | later |
| 22:21.43 | flybackX | http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/CP485SL.asp |
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| 23:22.20 | joe_bleau | 'sup Dave |
| 23:23.33 | prpplague | ssdd |
| 23:23.41 | prpplague | totally exhasted |
| 23:24.11 | joe_bleau | Know anything about getting started in the ringtone business? |
| 23:25.13 | prpplague | hehe sorry no |
| 23:25.27 | prpplague | i'm not much one for pop stuff |
| 23:25.36 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I've got one of those crazy ideas...not music. |
| 23:25.57 | prpplague | joe_bleau: pr0n sound tracks? |
| 23:25.57 | joe_bleau | I'm guessing there's a way to broker your tones to the cell providers |
| 23:26.03 | joe_bleau | and they give you a cut. |
| 23:26.25 | joe_bleau | Nope. I'm not gonna entertain guesses, either. It's a solid business idea. |
| 23:27.02 | joe_bleau | Just a really odd question for a monday... |
| 23:27.18 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:27.36 | joe_bleau | Hey, what's the delta between a salesman and a sack of crap? |
| 23:28.44 | prpplague | hmm, i would guess the sack? |
| 23:28.58 | joe_bleau | Hmm. Might be. |
| 23:29.15 | joe_bleau | Heard SGI is going into chap 11 |
| 23:29.32 | prpplague | i brought 2.6.16 up on a new board 4 days |
| 23:29.51 | flybackX | prpplague staples had cyberpower 485va/260 watt ups's for $19 no rebates so I got 4 :P |
| 23:29.53 | prpplague | i'm ready to go running through the cane fields naked |
| 23:29.53 | joe_bleau | So it's up (cue v*gra jokes) |
| 23:29.59 | flybackX | 3 yr warr, usb and serial out |
| 23:30.17 | flybackX | now if I just could get linux for palm t5 to boot properly .... |
| 23:30.19 | prpplague | joe_bleau: hehe |
| 23:30.30 | flybackX | I downloaded the 2 files they said worked but it can't find rootfs.ext2 |
| 23:30.30 | joe_bleau | I had a cyberpower once. Pulled the wall cord and it let the smoke out. Never again. |
| 23:30.44 | flybackX | well all the reviews I saw said they are good |
| 23:30.50 | flybackX | mabye you just got a dud |
| 23:30.55 | flybackX | I know energizer are shit |
| 23:31.03 | joe_bleau | Could be. |
| 23:31.04 | flybackX | it took so long to switch to batt my pc would reboot |
| 23:31.09 | flybackX | same with friend |
| 23:31.11 | flybackX | people on the net |
| 23:31.16 | flybackX | and even staples people said |
| 23:31.47 | flybackX | i'll have to drill you guys later to help me get linux on my palm |
| 23:31.58 | prpplague | joe_bleau: i'm fighting a heavy depression coming on |
| 23:32.09 | prpplague | joe_bleau: i usually get it _really_ bad after a rush project |
| 23:32.14 | flybackX | UGH |
| 23:32.17 | flybackX | hang in there prpplague |
| 23:32.21 | joe_bleau | Really? I love the ley up after a big rush job. |
| 23:32.26 | joe_bleau | s/ley/let/ |
| 23:33.07 | joe_bleau | Maybe you should unplug and take the ankle biter to the beach. |
| 23:33.58 | prpplague | joe_bleau: thats unsual |
| 23:34.13 | prpplague | joe_bleau: most devrs have a serious depression after heavy projects |
| 23:34.30 | joe_bleau | No kidding? |
| 23:34.34 | prpplague | joe_bleau: oh yea |
| 23:35.03 | joe_bleau | Maybe I don't work on heavy projects. |
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| 23:35.11 | prpplague | i usually manage mine well, but this one was bad |
| 23:36.10 | pierrelux | does anyone here had some success using linux-tiny patchset ? I've been using it with more or less success... |
| 23:36.13 | joe_bleau | It's getting to the point that I don't care about stuff like I used to. |
| 23:36.15 | flybackX | "The Wall Street Journal reports that a tiny Silicon Valley firm, Multigig, is proposing a novel way to synchronize the operations of computer chips, addressing power-consumption problems facing the semiconductor industry. From the article: 'John Wood, a British engineer who founded Multigig in 2000, devised an approach that involves sending electrical signals around square loop structures, said Haris Basit, Multigig's chief operating offi |
| 23:36.19 | flybackX | HOLY MOTHER OF CANUCK! |
| 23:36.21 | flybackX | if that's true |
| 23:36.59 | joe_bleau | prpplague: after all, even if I do my job, the sack of crap won't bother to sell it |
| 23:40.58 | prpplague | pierrelux: sorry, can't say that i have, i've had reports that it works pretty well, but up until recently i've stuck with 2.4 kernels |
| 23:41.23 | prpplague | joe_bleau: yea, well, i take my projects very seriously |
| 23:41.38 | prpplague | joe_bleau: more a personal challenge you would say |
| 23:41.55 | pierrelux | prpplague: pretty much the same for me... quite hard to adapt on 2.4* kernel branch without having specific knowledge on it |
| 23:44.57 | prpplague | i really don't like 2.6 but i got no choice in the matter these days |
| 23:46.56 | pierrelux | prpplague: it seems that they can get a "normal" kernel under 500k with it... |
| 23:49.30 | pierrelux | I'm just about to try it with 2.6.1 and their default config file provided here: http://www.selenic.com/tiny/sample-config |
