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| 15:28.16 | jbevren | wee |
| 15:28.28 | jbevren | also hi prp |
| 15:32.27 | prpplague | jbevren: hey |
| 15:32.36 | prpplague | jbevren: usb gadgets are soooooo much funnnnnnnn |
| 15:34.52 | jbevren | heh |
| 15:34.59 | jbevren | I'm sure you enjoy having to muck with the drivers ;-) |
| 15:35.12 | jbevren | gamepark's 2.0 firmware has networking et.al now |
| 15:35.22 | jbevren | theyve released the kernel source, but not the mplayer source :( |
| 15:35.24 | jbevren | grumble |
| 15:35.35 | jbevren | I want to see how it interacts with the second-cpu module |
| 16:39.49 | jbevren | prpplague: btw, werent you backporting gadget stuff to 2.4? |
| 16:48.47 | prpplague | jbevren: was, had to move forward to 2.6 |
| 16:48.55 | jbevren | ah |
| 16:48.58 | prpplague | jbevren: the 2.4 gadget stuff worked |
| 16:49.06 | prpplague | jbevren: just had bad performance with the serial gadget |
| 16:49.09 | jbevren | I comment cause gp2x has released their kernel (as noted), and they have gadget stuff |
| 16:49.19 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, i saw |
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| 17:02.48 | flyback | prpplague can you clear that damn nick ban already |
| 17:02.53 | flyback | this is getting really annoying |
| 17:03.52 | prpplague | flyback: that was not the arrangement |
| 17:04.17 | flyback | I thought you were just benig lazy |
| 17:05.08 | flyback | ugh I am going to have to install mirc 3 times with 3 seperate dirs and hack all the config files to save everything sepertely |
| 17:05.40 | prpplague | flyback: use linux and then don't worry about it |
| 17:05.47 | flyback | i'm trying to |
| 17:05.59 | flyback | also think I am going to turn that webpal into a psybnc server |
| 17:06.02 | flyback | it's not good for much else |
| 17:06.30 | jbevren | yeahg, theyre not horribly powreful :) |
| 17:07.08 | flyback | but perfect for psybnc |
| 17:07.08 | jbevren | yep |
| 17:07.17 | flyback | would solve a lot of my irc problems too |
| 17:07.23 | jbevren | nod |
| 17:07.34 | jbevren | you could run irc clients in telnet/ssh ssessions too |
| 17:07.41 | flyback | na can't do it |
| 17:07.50 | flyback | when I had somewhat of a breakdown a few yrs back |
| 17:07.56 | flyback | I lost my ability to handle console irc |
| 17:08.05 | jbevren | shrug |
| 17:08.08 | flyback | if it's just 1 channel ok but past that forget it |
| 17:08.12 | jbevren | I cant use windowed ones |
| 17:08.25 | jbevren | mine splits the text screen in half heh |
| 17:08.39 | jbevren | one half for each channel |
| 17:52.14 | flyback | I never could figure that out plus I have too many channels |
| 17:53.44 | jbevren | ahh |
| 17:57.27 | flyback | good for yuo |
| 17:57.36 | flyback | you probably don't have ocd and aspergers on top of adhd |
| 17:59.29 | flyback | well, I gotta see if I can get this old win98 install left on a old hd running well enough just to run a ups app for testing |
| 17:59.29 | flyback | bbl |
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| 21:20.19 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 21:20.46 | sunrunner20 | two nicks |
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| 21:32.27 | flyback | UGH |
| 21:32.27 | flyback | C - More limited capabilities. These UPS's have the capability to perform a timed shutdown and a delayed shutdown of the UPS after computer shutdown. A low battery shutdown is not possible since the UPS does not report % battery capacity remaining. |
| 21:32.28 | flyback | [17:31] <flybackX> ugh confirmed |
| 21:33.46 | sunrunner20 | 4days 18hrs 7mins 45secs |
| 21:36.38 | flyback | means these are probably worthless for linux too |
| 21:36.38 | flyback | dammit |
| 21:38.18 | flyback | wtf the box says they do have a low battery alarm |
| 21:39.44 | sunrunner20 | got an awsome deal on it |
| 21:42.20 | flyback | well i got these $19 no rebates |
| 21:42.31 | flyback | 485va/260 watt |
| 21:42.40 | flyback | but it seems they can only estimate runtime left and guess they don't know |
| 21:42.58 | flyback | I don't completely understand |
| 21:43.05 | sunrunner20 | apc? |
| 21:44.38 | flyback | cyberpower |
| 21:44.46 | jbevren | cybersex0r? |
| 21:44.50 | flyback | I have a apc 300 watt and also 2 old old school apc's |
| 21:45.00 | flyback | just need batts and the one needs put back together 30 wires soldered |
| 21:45.21 | flyback | be back in a few mins going to load test a 2nd unit |
| 21:45.28 | flyback | and decide if I want to return them tomarrow when I pass the store when I got to the doctor |
| 21:53.53 | flyback | here's the deal |
| 21:54.01 | flyback | they have both serial and usb data connectors |
| 21:54.10 | flyback | now if they can't report when the battery is low |
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| 21:54.29 | flyback | only when it's switched to battery and uses a timer to determine when to tell the pc to shutdown |
| 21:54.43 | flyback | as long as I can make linux software behavior mimic this behavior |
| 21:54.49 | flyback | I guess they aren't bad for $19 each |
| 21:55.11 | flyback | it's just going to suck when the batteries age and the timer no longer works |
| 21:55.41 | flyback | 5:47pulled plug |
| 21:55.41 | flyback | 5:50:49 windows shutdown software tripped on monitoring pc |
| 21:55.41 | flyback | 5:52:45 power cut out on load pc |
| 21:56.46 | flyback | you guys think it's possible to tweak the linux ups software to handle this behavior |
| 21:57.59 | jbevren | its sending this over serial or? |
| 21:59.47 | flyback | this is usb |
| 21:59.55 | flyback | just using the windows software |
| 22:00.15 | flyback | it basically gives you how long you want before the system shutsdown to either reserve battery power |
| 22:00.20 | flyback | or run as long as yuo can |
| 22:00.24 | flyback | but both are timer based |
| 22:00.31 | flyback | doesn't appear the ups can tell when it's battery is dead |
| 22:00.40 | flyback | in fact the stupid software is telling me that they are fully charged |
| 22:01.20 | flyback | lemme find the page for some 3rd party software that talked about this |
| 22:01.31 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.35 | flyback | mine is class c :/ |
| 22:02.25 | flyback | even my old like apc's first model ups ever gives you a continous beep when it's low on battery |
| 22:02.39 | flyback | dunno if my newer cheapo apc does |
| 22:05.16 | sunrunner20 | becuase i told it not to |
| 22:05.17 | T0mW | flyback: that is why I will no longer purchase an APC ups |
| 22:05.27 | flyback | oh they do the same stupid s*** now also? |
| 22:05.45 | T0mW | Belkin works fine with Linux, so does Triplex |
| 22:05.59 | sunrunner20 | only use it for power filtering |
| 22:06.02 | flyback | hmm |
| 22:06.11 | flyback | mabye I should take back all 4 tomarrow then :/ |
| 22:06.38 | T0mW | look at the Belkin, it is made in China, but they have upto date software to run on linux |
| 22:06.53 | sunrunner20 | see what they are going for on ebay |
| 22:07.03 | T0mW | the software even has SNMP notification, gui panel, etc. |
| 22:07.20 | flyback | dude all i really want is |
| 22:07.21 | flyback | on ac |
| 22:07.23 | flyback | on battery |
| 22:07.24 | flyback | battery low |
| 22:07.30 | flyback | if I had that for $20 I am happy |
| 22:07.42 | flyback | it doesn't even appear they have a battery low even thuogh the box says they do |
| 22:07.55 | T0mW | heh, APC sux |
| 22:07.59 | flyback | dude |
| 22:08.01 | flyback | this is NOT APC |
| 22:08.06 | T0mW | oh |
| 22:08.25 | flyback | cyberpower |
| 22:09.07 | flyback | I guess I could rig the linux daemon to just assume if more than 1 min on battery to start shutdown |
| 22:09.36 | T0mW | depending on the VA and load.. |
| 22:09.57 | flyback | no clue what the load is |
| 22:10.03 | flyback | it's a 485va/260 watt unit |
| 22:10.10 | T0mW | heh, you have a journaled file system right? Well... |
| 22:10.23 | flyback | yeah I will always use this in linux |
| 22:10.25 | T0mW | leave it on until it dies, see how long it runs heh |
| 22:10.25 | flyback | and ntfs in 2k |
| 22:10.37 | flyback | 5:47pulled plug |
| 22:10.37 | flyback | 5:50:49 windows shutdown software tripped on monitoring pc |
| 22:10.37 | flyback | 5:52:45 power cut out on load pc |
| 22:10.53 | flyback | the load pc is a sempron 3100+ radeon 9500pro |
| 22:11.43 | flyback | but I find this lack of a battery low warn very disturbing |
| 22:12.05 | T0mW | I give don't bother with it anymore. The server is set to autoboot, it is software RAID1 with ext3 filesystems... |
| 22:12.34 | T0mW | So, it goes down, it goes down, it will come up when the power company fixes the problem |
| 22:13.51 | T0mW | that site has a lot of power problems |
| 22:15.46 | flyback | unless you think it's possible to make linux work around this |
| 22:15.52 | flyback | I want graceful shutdowns |
| 22:16.06 | flyback | if I can't have anything else |
| 22:17.23 | flyback | I mean I guess for my mom's pc and the church pc they would be ok |
| 22:17.25 | flyback | both windows |
| 22:17.32 | flyback | and I guess I find uses for 2 here mabye a router or something |
| 22:17.49 | flyback | I just don't know I spent $80 for all 4 and just dunno if it's worth keeping |
| 22:19.28 | flyback | you can cancel a linux shutdown right ? |
| 22:30.31 | sunrunner20 | ya |
| 22:31.37 | flyback | so if I can get linux to support this ups then all it has to do is |
| 22:31.42 | flyback | get signal that ups is on battery power |
| 22:31.47 | flyback | set shutdown for some xxx time |
| 22:31.57 | flyback | and if it receives a signal before that saying it's back on ac |
| 22:32.00 | flyback | then abort shutdown |
| 22:50.14 | flyback | and google is 100% fucking worthless now |
| 22:50.23 | flyback | I dunno if they got corrupted by the ipo |
| 22:50.26 | flyback | or what |
| 22:50.29 | flyback | but it's 100% worthless |
| 22:50.51 | flyback | you can't search for jack fucking shit anymore all yuo get is garbage and search jacking sites |
| 22:53.14 | flyback | unbelievable |
| 22:53.56 | agaffney | don't blame google because people cheat the system |
| 22:54.57 | flyback | dude they need to update their anti cheats then |
| 22:55.09 | flyback | cause it's been getting worse and worse for months and now it's worthless |
| 22:55.45 | flyback | hey if cyberpower claims their ups works with the built in ups detection in 2k/xp |
| 22:55.57 | flyback | does that mean it should work in linxu since it supports a standard signalling method |
| 22:57.37 | agaffney | iirc, cyberpower is rebadged APC |
| 22:57.49 | flyback | heh |
| 22:57.52 | agaffney | or maybe it's another brand I'm thinking of |
| 22:58.01 | flyback | yeah I think so cause I don't think apc was this abd |
| 22:58.10 | flyback | course they might be now |
| 22:58.10 | agaffney | ah, that's Connext |
| 22:58.13 | agaffney | or something like that |
| 22:58.21 | flyback | ups's that can't even give you a low battery warning or alarm |
| 22:58.27 | flyback | it just guesses how much time is left |
| 22:58.39 | flyback | if I can at least make linux work with that assumption I guess they are worth the $19 |
| 23:00.30 | flyback | omg I can't believe google has gone to hell this badly |
| 23:02.26 | flyback | but am I right about what I said about the ups supporting windows 2k/xp built in ups managment |
| 23:02.40 | flyback | then it should work with linux if linux supports that standard |
| 23:03.44 | agaffney | "linux" doesn't support anything :P |
| 23:03.50 | agaffney | apcupsd and nut would support it |
| 23:04.04 | flyback | that's what I mean |
| 23:04.26 | flyback | as long as I have "on ac" "on battery" which is all this ups supports doesn't even do low battery |
| 23:04.30 | flyback | but if I at least have those 2 |
| 23:04.38 | flyback | then I can probably script what I need for the rest |
| 23:05.04 | flyback | so apcupsd and nut support anything that the standard 2k/xp control support? |
| 23:07.31 | flyback | I guess that's really the only question I need confirmed |
| 23:07.36 | flyback | and I can find out myself for the rest |
| 23:09.06 | flyback | OOOO |
| 23:09.07 | flyback | --with-pwrfail-dir=<path> |
| 23:09.07 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.13 | flyback | leaves a "bookmark" |
| 23:09.14 | flyback | excelletn |
| 23:09.21 | flyback | one problem solved, 389473427894034782 to go |
| 23:10.22 | flyback | heck yeah! |
| 23:10.23 | flyback | If your cable does not have low battery detection, as is the case with some older models, you will also need to define TIMEOUT nnn where you set nn to be the number of seconds on a power failure after which a shutdown is effected. |
| 23:10.28 | flyback | they already solved my other problem |
| 23:10.30 | flyback | w00t |
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| 23:16.23 | flyback | wow these guys who wrote apcd are awesome |
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