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| 06:22.40 | davidc__ | prpplague == the prpplague on sparkfun? |
| 06:22.46 | davidc__ | if so, small world ;) |
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| 06:56.40 | flybackX | yes |
| 06:56.44 | flybackX | most likely |
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| 09:05.19 | flyback | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G14876 |
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| 11:59.21 | prpplague | davidc__: yea, i made a post on sparkfun forum the other day |
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| 13:20.26 | jbevren | http://dilbert.com/ |
| 13:20.28 | jbevren | lol |
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| 13:46.36 | jbevren | prpplague: check saturday's logs? |
| 14:16.17 | prpplague | jbevren: no why? |
| 14:19.35 | jbevren | did some fb playtime on fri night/sat morning |
| 14:21.01 | prpplague | yea doing some reading now |
| 14:22.54 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe sounds like joe might grab himself a pixter |
| 14:23.03 | jbevren | it seems that the pixter uses page flipping for animation |
| 14:23.05 | jbevren | yeah :D |
| 14:23.16 | jbevren | actually I take that back |
| 14:23.29 | jbevren | anyway, in 'diags mode' (rear button pressed during powerup), the fb is in a different location |
| 14:26.21 | jbevren | ocd's halt works, but the music is in a dma or irq loop btw |
| 14:26.32 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:26.35 | prpplague | figured as much |
| 14:26.40 | jbevren | and a 5.0v 2a psu isnt enough to start the pixter |
| 14:26.41 | jbevren | (wtf) |
| 14:26.54 | jbevren | so I overzealously decoupled it at the battery compartment with a 27000uf cap |
| 14:27.06 | prpplague | and? |
| 14:27.22 | prpplague | you blow it? |
| 14:27.31 | jbevren | nope |
| 14:27.41 | jbevren | you know when you turn the pixter on, you get the double ding then music |
| 14:27.54 | jbevren | on the 5v 2a psu, you get a single blip and it freezes witha white screen |
| 14:27.57 | jbevren | same with 6v 1800ma |
| 14:28.12 | jbevren | decoupling the battery box as I described fixes the issue |
| 14:28.33 | jbevren | my batteries were down to 4.5v so I figured it was aobut time I found another power source :D |
| 14:29.59 | prpplague | interesting |
| 14:30.13 | jbevren | it has quite the startup surge apparently |
| 14:31.21 | jbevren | I dont have a DSO, so I cant easily capture the spike |
| 14:36.30 | prpplague | i see tom61 dropped in |
| 14:37.51 | prpplague | yea i plan to start doing some pixter hacking next weekend assuming nothing gets droped onto my plate for work |
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| 14:53.09 | prpplague | hehe funny, the one weekend i don't spend much time on irc and everyone is looking for me |
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| 17:43.36 | flyback | intel is pulling the plug on xscale |
| 17:45.05 | jbevren | thats because xscale is competing with intel's x86 embedded line |
| 17:46.01 | flyback | hah |
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| 18:10.44 | prpplague | flyback: where did you see that? |
| 18:13.55 | flybackX | hang on |
| 18:14.22 | flybackX | also intel released a cacheless celeron-m for embedded |
| 18:14.23 | flybackX | heh |
| 18:14.52 | flybackX | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32160 |
| 18:15.57 | flybackX | wow I wonder if the speculation about nor flash is correct also |
| 18:18.45 | prpplague | ok so its not EOL for xscale products, its just that intel is selling the IP |
| 18:19.03 | flybackX | yes |
| 18:19.08 | flybackX | http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=188701481 |
| 18:19.21 | flybackX | I doubt intel would be that stupid to let xscale totaly die off |
| 18:19.31 | flybackX | it's not a bad chip |
| 18:20.39 | flybackX | btw |
| 18:20.44 | flybackX | did you see the link I pasted last nigh |
| 18:21.04 | flybackX | if you can figure this one prpplague it looks like a cheap win |
| 18:21.05 | flybackX | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G14876 |
| 18:21.24 | flybackX | 640x200 b/w lcd for $1.50! |
| 18:21.33 | jbevren | yay. |
| 18:21.42 | flybackX | HELL YEAH! |
| 18:22.14 | prpplague | flyback: yea already looked |
| 18:22.39 | flybackX | what do you think |
| 18:22.40 | jbevren | I have an epson one in my basement |
| 18:22.40 | jbevren | havent used it |
| 18:22.45 | flybackX | they have some other cheap ones too |
| 18:22.46 | flybackX | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/products.asp?dept=1039 |
| 18:22.50 | prpplague | would take awhile to hack that one without a datasheet |
| 18:23.10 | flybackX | prpp well if I get more time, (in the middle of configuring a email server remotely for a job) |
| 18:23.21 | flybackX | I can try to find the datasheet or whatever is the closest |
| 18:23.30 | flybackX | mabye the laptop it belonged to and work backwards |
| 18:23.57 | flybackX | check the last 2 on that page as well |
| 18:24.27 | flybackX | man i'll buy a ton if we can nail the pinout and code |
| 18:24.52 | flybackX | pretty soon I won't need a crt for anything but a actual desktop |
| 18:24.53 | prpplague | flybackX: yea the only one there that is really a good deal is the sony tft |
| 18:24.54 | flybackX | :P |
| 18:25.12 | flybackX | aren't those a nightmare to drive thuogh |
| 18:25.27 | flybackX | I thougth pretty much anything over like 256 colors pretty much requires a dedicated controller |
| 18:25.30 | flybackX | parallel port is too slow |
| 18:25.39 | flybackX | oh it's only 512 |
| 18:25.40 | flybackX | hmm |
| 18:25.56 | prpplague | flybackX: don't know i always use a dedicated controller anyway |
| 18:26.06 | flybackX | ah |
| 18:26.20 | flybackX | well I just want cheap displays for systems so I don't have to use a lame power hogging crt |
| 18:26.29 | flybackX | when most of the time that system is just doing embedded work anyways |
| 18:27.40 | flybackX | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G15326 |
| 18:28.02 | prpplague | flybackX: an example would be? |
| 18:28.12 | flybackX | eh? |
| 18:28.24 | flybackX | oh lcd |
| 18:28.26 | flybackX | my webpal |
| 18:28.36 | flybackX | or my ppc walnut linux router |
| 18:28.46 | prpplague | iirc both have lcd controllers |
| 18:29.02 | flybackX | eh? |
| 18:29.09 | flybackX | how? |
| 18:29.40 | flybackX | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G15619 |
| 18:31.55 | flybackX | bbl |
| 18:32.25 | prpplague | well the walnut doesn't have lcd controller, but you can add a card to the pci slot easy |
| 18:32.43 | prpplague | the webpal has a lcd controller, just not used since it has the vga out |
| 18:33.16 | jbevren | it'd be interesting to put a larger lcd on the pixter |
| 18:33.17 | flybackX | hmm |
| 18:33.21 | prpplague | flybackX: almost all larger arm chips come with a lcd controller |
| 18:33.22 | flybackX | I was thinking about that prpp |
| 18:33.26 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 18:33.31 | flybackX | how hard it would be to hack the webpal to activate the lcd interface |
| 18:33.39 | jbevren | prpplague: I'm still stoked about using one as an appliance controller |
| 18:33.42 | prpplague | shouldn't be hard |
| 18:33.48 | flybackX | mabye even for just that vesa feature connector hack thing |
| 18:33.50 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe with ir? |
| 18:33.53 | flybackX | actually don't even need that |
| 18:33.55 | jbevren | prpplague: not really, |
| 18:33.58 | jbevren | more like network-enabled stuff |
| 18:34.00 | flybackX | if the webpal controller can do digital RGB out |
| 18:34.07 | jbevren | have the dryer IM me when its done |
| 18:34.07 | jbevren | etc |
| 18:34.07 | flybackX | I have a tft with digital rgb in |
| 18:34.12 | prpplague | jbevren: wireless? |
| 18:34.22 | jbevren | wireless or wired, I'm fairly indifferent |
| 18:34.28 | jbevren | my servers are by the dryer heh |
| 18:37.25 | jbevren | prpplague: I pondered making a microwave controller |
| 18:37.39 | jbevren | so I can view the weather |
| 18:37.43 | jbevren | have accessory timers heh |
| 18:38.30 | prpplague | jbevren: no i meant, how are you going to handle the connectivity for the pixter |
| 18:38.37 | jbevren | ah |
| 18:38.41 | flybackX | HOLY SHIT |
| 18:38.42 | flybackX | DUDES |
| 18:38.43 | jbevren | spi ethernet |
| 18:38.44 | flybackX | http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G15565 |
| 18:38.45 | jbevren | probably |
| 18:40.15 | jbevren | dude, its a battery |
| 18:40.18 | jbevren | calm down :) |
| 18:40.30 | flybackX | no dude it's sealed waterproof + charger circuit |
| 18:40.35 | flybackX | if it was just a battery no big deal |
| 18:40.35 | jbevren | yay. |
| 18:40.36 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:40.47 | jbevren | hey bbiab |
| 18:40.50 | flybackX | think outside mcu |
| 18:40.52 | flybackX | :P |
| 18:41.06 | flybackX | yeah me too |
| 18:41.39 | prpplague | jbevren: ahh ok you are gonna use the enc28j60? |
| 18:53.20 | jbevren | yeah, looks like one hell of a find :) |
| 18:53.30 | jbevren | just need to find a usable spi bus on the chip (I'd rather not bitbang spi) :) |
| 18:57.05 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:03.07 | jbevren | of course, if push becomes shove.. |
| 19:03.19 | jbevren | I could just stick a SPI bus on the expansion port |
| 19:03.33 | jbevren | any small PLD would give me a nice SPI interface |
| 19:04.38 | flybackX | ugh |
| 19:04.42 | flybackX | 2 months after I get it fixed |
| 19:04.51 | flybackX | the headphone jack on my palm is canucking up |
| 19:05.19 | jbevren | heh |
| 19:05.20 | flybackX | I know my extended warrenty is now expired since they ddi a repair but I wonder if the company that fixed it since they certify it's factory spec, will cover it |
| 19:05.20 | flybackX | hmm |
| 19:05.23 | jbevren | my palm doesnt have such a jack |
| 19:05.26 | flybackX | I know this |
| 19:05.33 | flybackX | cold day in hell before I ever buy another palm product |
| 19:05.33 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:05.35 | jbevren | lucky bastige |
| 19:05.35 | flybackX | which one? |
| 19:05.41 | jbevren | IIIxe |
| 19:05.45 | jbevren | $30 special |
| 19:05.47 | flybackX | oh I have of those |
| 19:05.50 | flybackX | it was my first palm |
| 19:05.56 | flybackX | folks spent $250 on it +60 warrenty |
| 19:05.59 | flybackX | it died in the middle of a flash |
| 19:06.07 | flybackX | got a $250 refund and took 3 yrs to decide on the t5 |
| 19:06.11 | flybackX | I still have it |
| 19:06.17 | flybackX | just needs a firmware fix and new display |
| 19:06.24 | flybackX | also have a IIIx just needs display |
| 19:06.35 | flybackX | IIIxe is a good model for non video non sound |
| 19:06.48 | flybackX | palm os 4.2 is the latest for that model |
| 19:07.09 | flybackX | m68k uclinux will run too but it can't do much in 8 meg ram 2 meg flash afaik |
| 19:07.21 | jbevren | I played with the demo image |
| 19:07.28 | flybackX | that's all it is :P |
| 19:07.28 | jbevren | it didnt have any real fb or otherwise console support |
| 19:08.00 | flybackX | palm os is probably the best for m68k series palms |
| 19:08.41 | flybackX | I found a place that sells surplus palm LCD + digitizer it looks like it's IIIX compatible for $5 |
| 19:08.52 | flybackX | but they want $25 min order and I am not 100% sure it's the right one |
| 19:09.12 | flybackX | actually that IIIxe if I could just get someone to show me how to serial bootstrap |
| 19:09.22 | flybackX | actually I know how to get it to that mode and setup hyperterm |
| 19:09.27 | flybackX | but I don't understand s-records etc |
| 19:09.34 | flybackX | don't know what files I need to have to feed it |
| 19:09.43 | flybackX | if I could get it to just boot once that way I can repair the flash |
| 19:09.58 | prpplague | jbevren: btw, you see if the stored pics are still there when you remove power? |
| 19:10.25 | jbevren | oh |
| 19:10.30 | jbevren | I cant operate it without the TS :( |
| 19:10.44 | flybackX | jbe why not feed it a kernel that has serial support |
| 19:10.59 | flybackX | run vnc on it |
| 19:11.26 | jbevren | flybackX: tinyvnc or tinyx did come to mind |
| 19:11.35 | jbevren | but rs232 would require a dedicated line, while ethernet wouldnt |
| 19:11.37 | flybackX | mabye some time when you guys feel like it, you could show me how to do m68k booting |
| 19:11.41 | flybackX | how s-records work etc |
| 19:11.51 | flybackX | wow I thought tinyX was dead |
| 19:12.08 | prpplague | flybackX: why would you think that? |
| 19:12.13 | jbevren | its in buildroot |
| 19:12.16 | prpplague | flybackX: technically its called kdrive |
| 19:12.52 | flybackX | neat |
| 19:13.33 | jbevren | its a minimal X that operates on the framebuffer (no acceleration of course) |
| 19:14.00 | flybackX | yeah well on some things, not much of aloss :P |
| 19:14.42 | flybackX | wonder how this would do on a 486-100 with 8 meg ram |
| 19:14.43 | flybackX | hmmm |
| 19:14.57 | prpplague | flybackX: it would do fine |
| 19:15.00 | flybackX | God protect us from copper money and CGA cards. |
| 19:15.02 | flybackX | HAHAHAHAH |
| 19:15.04 | flybackX | what a quote |
| 19:15.21 | prpplague | flybackX: the tcsx-1 was just a 386dx-75 |
| 19:15.34 | prpplague | flybackX: and it ran a xserver with no problems |
| 19:15.53 | flybackX | oh neat |
| 19:16.09 | jbevren | the coolest setup (imho) I ever had was a hercules mda running xfree86_mono |
| 19:16.17 | flybackX | hah |
| 19:16.21 | flybackX | and that works? |
| 19:17.13 | prpplague | http://www.linuxdevices.com/products/PD4854992533.html |
| 19:17.14 | jbevren | worked well |
| 19:17.20 | jbevren | I ran xosview's from other systems on it |
| 19:17.29 | flybackX | bah I gotta get back to this job as much as I could spend all day daydreaming abotu this stuff |
| 19:17.31 | jbevren | as well as a net bandwidth monitor (it was the firewall box) |
| 19:17.36 | prpplague | hehehe they still have my old email address on their |
| 19:17.37 | jbevren | old ibm greenscreen |
| 19:18.19 | prpplague | ~lart jbevren |
| 19:18.23 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:18.35 | prpplague | jbevren: i always make those mistakes in spelling and grammar |
| 19:18.54 | prpplague | the tcsx-1 is what made me give up on x86 |
| 19:19.01 | prpplague | that was a f'n nightmare project |
| 19:19.30 | flybackX | heh |
| 19:20.04 | prpplague | i had already done the design for the tcsx-2 and tcsx-3 , but my employer can'd the project |
| 19:20.20 | prpplague | the sub contractor still made them for a long time |
| 19:21.45 | prpplague | hehe yep, the still make the tcsx-1 and tcsx-3 |
| 19:21.46 | prpplague | http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=191 |
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| 19:24.21 | flybackX | 2 times when you gave me a url it hung mirc |
| 19:24.43 | jbevren | do it again |
| 19:24.46 | jbevren | encourage him to update mirc :) |
| 19:25.55 | flybackX | I have the latest |
| 19:26.03 | flybackX | buggy pos that it is |
| 19:26.13 | flybackX | if xchat win32 wasn't more unstable than I am, I would use it |
| 19:27.01 | flybackX | but linux as my main os will be a normal in a few months anyways |
| 19:27.45 | prpplague | http://www.icop.com.tw/products_detail.asp?ProductID=191 |
| 19:28.07 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:28.18 | jbevren | flybackX: might try turning the URL catcher off |
| 19:28.27 | prpplague | man i've not been feeling well, i think i've developed CFS |
| 19:28.37 | jbevren | take some vacation |
| 19:29.38 | flybackX | no when I manually click on them |
| 19:29.56 | flybackX | prpplague welcom to my life for the last 11+ yrs |
| 19:30.01 | flybackX | get some rest bro |
| 19:30.31 | flybackX | prpp nice design :) |
| 19:30.45 | prpplague | jbevren: can't too much work :( |
| 19:30.55 | prpplague | jbevren: we have to get this project out by the end of june |
| 19:38.51 | jbevren | firefox open |
| 19:38.53 | jbevren | one empty page |
| 19:38.55 | jbevren | 366M used mem |
| 19:39.07 | jbevren | lovely software we have these days |
| 19:40.34 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:40.47 | jbevren | it irks me off cause I have 512M and I cant browse for crap |
| 19:40.54 | prpplague | i've been downloading a copy of the neverwhere miniseries for almost 4 weeks now, hehe |
| 19:40.55 | jbevren | i remember doing -very- well in 64M |
| 19:41.11 | prpplague | jbevren: winblows? |
| 19:43.11 | flybackX | yeah firefox is getting embarassing |
| 19:43.43 | flybackX | plus it still can't handle flash |
| 19:43.48 | flybackX | it still can't handle a lot of scripts |
| 19:43.56 | flybackX | so I have to use block agents else Iget 99% cpu |
| 19:44.07 | flybackX | and pages with a lot of pictures on one page it lags to hell or deadlocks |
| 19:49.32 | jbevren | linux |
| 19:50.35 | flybackX | GamePolitics reports that M-rated games have been taken as evidence a case involving the death of a 55-year old man in Louisiana. The connection? Jack Thompson says: "Nobody shoots anybody in the face unless you're a hitman or a videogamer." |
| 19:50.38 | flybackX | what an idiot |
| 19:55.03 | flybackX | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198180,00.html |
| 19:55.17 | flybackX | that's how I want to go |
| 19:57.25 | flybackX | just dig thru the trash like me :P |
| 19:58.12 | prpplague | flybackX: doesn't work like that here |
| 19:58.12 | jbevren | palmpix arrived |
| 19:58.22 | prpplague | jbevren: oh coool |
| 19:58.30 | prpplague | jbevren: photo's when you can please |
| 19:58.34 | jbevren | nod |
| 19:58.37 | jbevren | my sister has my cam |
| 19:58.42 | jbevren | although I could use this I guess, I got two |
| 19:58.50 | jbevren | looks like it snaps together |
| 19:59.54 | flybackX | hmm |
| 19:59.55 | flybackX | thx jbe |
| 20:00.03 | flybackX | I wonder if my t5 could be used as a decent cam |
| 20:00.33 | jbevren | how nonintuitive |
| 20:00.40 | jbevren | the palmpix application doesnt have any way to take a picture |
| 20:00.53 | flybackX | bah it's only 640x480 |
| 20:00.58 | flybackX | i can get keychain cams for $5 that do that |
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| 20:07.01 | prpplague | flybackX: ? |
| 20:07.01 | flybackX | that ebay thing |
| 20:07.01 | prpplague | flybackX: "databooks" ? |
| 20:07.02 | flybackX | hang on |
| 20:07.02 | flybackX | http://pda.alege.net/Royal-DM3070.html |
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| 20:07.03 | prpplague | yea, big difference is the size, which makes it hackable |
| 20:07.55 | flybackX | it doesn't look any bigger |
| 20:07.55 | prpplague | flybackX: its thicker and because it does less, it has more room inside to put your own boards |
| 20:07.56 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.56 | flybackX | this looks insteresting http://www.pdastreet.com/hardware/Royal-Vista-2001-5-3-pdastreet-pdas.html |
| 20:08.24 | prpplague | thats another of the nice kids laptops |
| 20:08.24 | flybackX | althuogh I still have one of their paperweight dv1's |
| 20:08.24 | flybackX | I should have you guys look at the rom image sometime |
| 20:08.24 | flybackX | tell me what cpu it is |
| 20:08.37 | prpplague | yea i started to buy one of those for the keyboard a long time ago |
| 20:08.52 | flybackX | which? |
| 20:09.06 | flybackX | yeah those kids laptops I thought about before too |
| 20:09.10 | flybackX | but the oen I got I don't think is very hackable |
| 20:09.14 | flybackX | although it has a memory expantion slot |
| 20:09.16 | jbevren | ok this is retarded |
| 20:09.22 | jbevren | how the f do I get the images off the palm |
| 20:09.34 | flybackX | probably when yuo hotsync |
| 20:09.42 | jbevren | nope |
| 20:09.49 | jbevren | there's no data file |
| 20:09.51 | jbevren | no images |
| 20:09.54 | flybackX | also |
| 20:09.54 | jbevren | it doesnt even hotsync em |
| 20:09.55 | flybackX | http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/read-palmpix.1.html |
| 20:10.34 | flybackX | prpp so that little keyboard that comes with the royal dv1 migth be usuable for other stfuf? |
| 20:10.36 | flybackX | cool |
| 20:10.40 | flybackX | at least I can get my $30 that way |
| 20:10.41 | jbevren | jbevren@ibm:~/.jpilot$ find . -iname image\* |
| 20:10.42 | jbevren | jbevren@ibm:~/.jpilot$ |
| 20:10.47 | jbevren | you have to have the pdb before you can read it |
| 20:10.56 | flybackX | yeah I know I am thinking wtf |
| 20:11.02 | flybackX | unless the cam stores them |
| 20:13.01 | prpplague | yea, i would suspect that the cam stores the pics |
| 20:14.26 | flybackX | http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/digCam/palmPix/ownerManual/ch4.shtml |
| 20:15.53 | jbevren | AT90S8515 mcu |
| 20:16.56 | jbevren | http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc0841.pdf |
| 20:16.58 | prpplague | atmel? |
| 20:17.02 | flybackX | yep |
| 20:17.10 | flybackX | 8515 I think that's a 8051 variant but might be avr |
| 20:17.22 | flybackX | it's avr |
| 20:17.31 | jbevren | 8mhz chip |
| 20:17.45 | prpplague | hehe, interesting |
| 20:17.50 | jbevren | tqfp version |
| 20:18.31 | jbevren | the mating connector is on a separate pcb |
| 20:19.12 | jbevren | its pretty well covered with test points |
| 20:19.27 | jbevren | the case had an IR filter on it |
| 20:19.28 | jbevren | heh |
| 20:19.58 | jbevren | another IC under teh battery box with a paper label on it |
| 20:21.17 | jbevren | four IC's in all so far |
| 20:21.28 | prpplague | interesting |
| 20:21.34 | jbevren | ltc1383cs |
| 20:24.10 | flybackX | holy shit |
| 20:24.22 | flybackX | I am way over my head trying to setup this email server for this guy |
| 20:24.55 | jbevren | altera PLD and a sdram or flash |
| 20:25.29 | jbevren | 41256 |
| 20:25.35 | prpplague | interesting |
| 20:25.35 | jbevren | 256kbit dram |
| 20:25.49 | prpplague | no flash? |
| 20:26.17 | jbevren | the mcu has 8k flash |
| 20:26.23 | jbevren | otherwise seems not |
| 20:26.29 | jbevren | unless theyre using some of teh altera's gates for rom |
| 20:26.59 | jbevren | altera epf8383atc100-4 |
| 20:27.00 | prpplague | i doubt it |
| 20:27.14 | prpplague | what about the camera module |
| 20:27.16 | jbevren | elitem m11841256 |
| 20:27.21 | prpplague | what its look like? |
| 20:27.29 | jbevren | covered by a lens assembly |
| 20:27.35 | jbevren | and I cant find my watchmaker's screwdrivers |
| 20:27.55 | jbevren | at any rate, its mounted to the pcb |
| 20:29.15 | jbevren | labeled pads (aside from TP's) are: pg1-pg6, dmo, gms |
| 20:29.48 | jbevren | pcb label: kcm547 rev a |
| 20:30.54 | jbevren | the ccd is largeish, about 1/4" square |
| 20:31.14 | jbevren | :) |
| 20:32.04 | prpplague | kcm547? |
| 20:32.27 | jbevren | nod.. its silkscreened on the board |
| 20:32.34 | jbevren | probably kodak's internal number for it |
| 20:32.52 | prpplague | jbevren: no other info that might identify the ccd portion? |
| 20:35.43 | prpplague | jbevren: TunPix is suppose to be some software to allow you to use the palmpix on the tungston |
| 20:35.54 | jbevren | interesting |
| 20:35.57 | jbevren | is it os? |
| 20:36.09 | jbevren | btw no.. the ccd is apparently smt |
| 20:36.18 | jbevren | I couldnt see any identifying marks through the lens hole |
| 20:37.01 | prpplague | jbevren: does the camera portion seem to be a seperate module? |
| 20:37.11 | jbevren | nope.. one pcb |
| 20:37.15 | flybackX | nmmmmm |
| 20:37.20 | flybackX | juicebox + palmpix |
| 20:37.24 | flybackX | pixter + palmpic |
| 20:37.45 | jbevren | flyback: it's rs232 |
| 20:37.49 | flybackX | I know |
| 20:37.53 | flybackX | :P |
| 20:39.04 | prpplague | bummer, i was hopin that the ccd portion was a seperate pcb |
| 20:43.19 | jbevren | bear in mind, I cant see the whole module cause its covered by the assembly |
| 20:43.25 | jbevren | all I can do atm is peer through the lens hole heh |
| 20:50.10 | jbevren | dmo and cms come from the pld |
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| 21:03.09 | jbevren | doh back to work |
| 21:21.33 | jbevren | http://jbevren.net/palmpix/ |
| 21:21.34 | jbevren | not a bad cam |
| 21:21.40 | jbevren | the jpg's are altered (auto levels in gimp) |
| 21:21.49 | jbevren | the ppm's are as pulled off the palm with read-palmpix |
| 21:22.51 | jbevren | flybackX: as it turns out, read-palmpix communicates directly with the palm |
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| 21:29.31 | flybackX | neat |
| 21:29.44 | flybackX | how the hell did they do that |
| 21:29.47 | flybackX | palm only has 1 i/o |
| 21:32.42 | jbevren | with the hotsync cradle? :) |
| 21:33.18 | flybackX | no I mean doesn't it need to talk to the cam thru the palm? |
| 21:33.27 | jbevren | nono |
| 21:33.30 | jbevren | not webcam style |
| 21:33.31 | flybackX | oh I see you have to disconnect the cam when you sync |
| 21:33.33 | jbevren | take pics with the cam |
| 21:33.34 | jbevren | yeah |
| 21:33.37 | jbevren | remove cam, sync |
| 21:33.38 | flybackX | no that;s what I mean't |
| 21:33.43 | flybackX | but still I was wrong |
| 21:33.50 | jbevren | INDEED! |
| 21:33.51 | jbevren | hehe |
| 21:33.57 | flybackX | speaking of cams I wish I could get the damn hack on this 1.3mp disposable cam to work |
| 21:34.01 | flybackX | or find hacked firmware |
| 21:34.05 | flybackX | :/ |
| 21:36.30 | flybackX | I wish I had a forge |
| 21:36.41 | flybackX | I have like 60 hd shells plus I will have another 20 or so soon |
| 21:36.45 | flybackX | and a few hundred platters |
| 21:36.47 | flybackX | all aluminum |
| 21:43.06 | jbevren | should take the aluminum to a metals dealer |
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| 21:43.59 | flybackX | I plan too |
| 21:44.04 | flybackX | still be fun to play with all this material |
| 21:44.15 | flybackX | I must have several 1000 cans in a bag |
| 21:44.25 | flybackX | in fact the 60 gallon bag is ready to explode |
| 21:44.43 | flybackX | they are all crushed too which probably says something about how I have drank too much soda and energy drinks in the last 2 yrs :/ |
| 21:54.03 | jbevren | heh |
| 21:54.18 | jbevren | my friends had a refrigerator box in their house |
| 21:54.24 | jbevren | they labelled it the big f/ing can box |
| 21:54.38 | jbevren | when filled, they got more than $100 (5 cents per can) out of it |
| 21:55.20 | flybackX | nice I should have at least that much |
| 21:56.10 | jbevren | probably |
| 21:56.15 | jbevren | Iowa has a mandatory refund thing |
| 21:56.20 | jbevren | dunno if your state does |
| 21:56.46 | flybackX | pa |
| 21:56.46 | flybackX | dunno |
| 21:57.15 | jbevren | I dont think pa has refunds |
| 21:57.16 | jbevren | I used to live in scranton |
| 21:57.23 | jbevren | the armpit of PA |
| 21:57.44 | flybackX | beaver falls/chippewa here |
| 21:57.48 | flybackX | about hr from pittsburgh |
| 21:59.03 | prpplague | hmm, anyone know how to submit a url to google? |
| 22:00.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 22:00.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when did you sneak in? |
| 22:08.31 | CosmicPenguin | dude - I've always been here |
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| 23:10.09 | CosmicPenguin | anyone know of a web page that shows what opcodes were introduced in what x86 architectures? |
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