| 01:16.05 | prpplague | CP|Home: later |
| 01:19.10 | flybackx | <flybackx> well |
| 01:19.10 | flybackx | [21:18] <flybackx> here goes the neightborhood |
| 01:19.10 | flybackx | [21:19] * flybackx waves goodbye before pluggnig the monitor in |
| 01:25.14 | flybackx | w00t, not only works, it actually looks better than it has in a while |
| 01:25.19 | flybackx | the cleaning worked :) |
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| 02:35.20 | prpplague | davidc___: http://www.elinux.org/wiki/SparkfunCamera |
| 02:39.58 | davidc___ | er, take that parts guess with a very large shaker of salt ;) |
| 02:41.16 | davidc___ | nm, he left |
| 04:01.34 | jbevren | prp: did you get one? |
| 04:01.38 | jbevren | oh he left |
| 04:01.41 | jbevren | haha david |
| 04:01.44 | jbevren | I did the same thing :) |
| 04:07.14 | davidc___ | ya |
| 04:07.20 | davidc___ | I've got two here.. no luck with em yet |
| 04:31.27 | jbevren | best of luck :) |
| 04:31.31 | jbevren | anyway, off to bed forme |
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| 08:07.27 | flybackx | http://www.eeproductcenter.com/passives/brief/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=188702093 |
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| 12:55.25 | jbevren | Morning prp |
| 12:55.38 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 12:55.46 | jbevren | merry frekin wednesday? |
| 12:55.47 | jbevren | hehe |
| 12:55.49 | prpplague | crap |
| 12:55.53 | jbevren | um |
| 12:55.54 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 12:55.57 | jbevren | might want to change your password now |
| 12:56.07 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 12:56.09 | prpplague | doh |
| 12:56.13 | jbevren | :D |
| 12:56.21 | jbevren | I try to remember to ident before I join a chan ;-) |
| 12:57.06 | prpplague | hehe |
| 12:57.08 | prpplague | good point |
| 12:57.28 | prpplague | now that i can't use that password anymore, kind of funny story |
| 12:57.42 | jbevren | sure |
| 12:57.44 | prpplague | jbevren: i used to use killerclowns from the movie |
| 12:57.44 | jbevren | hehe |
| 12:57.50 | prpplague | jbevren: i also used billybob |
| 12:57.54 | jbevren | what a horrible movie |
| 12:57.56 | jbevren | but anyway |
| 12:58.02 | prpplague | jbevren: so one day i mergered them |
| 12:58.08 | prpplague | jbevren: ended up with killerbob |
| 12:58.24 | jbevren | so where'd billybob come from? Just randomness? |
| 12:58.46 | prpplague | jbevren: billybob is a common "redneck" name in southern parts of the united states |
| 12:59.13 | jbevren | true, that |
| 12:59.17 | jbevren | what part of the us are you from btw |
| 13:00.44 | prpplague | jbevren: east texas |
| 13:01.04 | jbevren | Iowa here |
| 13:01.18 | jbevren | I spent my first quarter century in a small town just west of here |
| 13:01.30 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe, doesn't it get pretty cold there? |
| 13:01.37 | jbevren | not as bad as minnesota :) |
| 13:01.48 | jbevren | besides, snow can be fun |
| 13:02.00 | jbevren | sledding (not putting yourself down a hill on an unpowered slider) |
| 13:02.07 | jbevren | mm 150hp snowmobile |
| 13:02.10 | jbevren | cross-country runs |
| 13:03.20 | jbevren | but you know, since I grew up here, I'm used to it |
| 13:03.53 | jbevren | sorta reminds me of our thai foreign exchange student in high school |
| 13:03.57 | jbevren | he'd never seen snow at all |
| 13:04.03 | jbevren | and we had a random blizzard a week after he came |
| 13:04.12 | prpplague | jbevren: most people here have never seen snow |
| 13:05.59 | prpplague | i sure wish the hit counter was working on elinux.org |
| 13:10.31 | jbevren | prpplague: you should come up this winter and view our weak winters |
| 13:10.53 | jbevren | when I was young there would be 3-4 feet of snow piled on the curb |
| 13:10.53 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:10.53 | jbevren | last year we barely had snow |
| 13:21.46 | existx | aye |
| 13:21.54 | jbevren | he lives! |
| 13:22.15 | existx | you're not on efnet ;( |
| 13:23.03 | jbevren | yeah I am |
| 13:23.06 | jbevren | just not in mc |
| 13:23.18 | existx | the snow though.. i've hardly seen a winter compared to anything while I was growing up |
| 13:23.32 | existx | of course, i lived right off lake ontario for a bulk of it |
| 13:24.23 | jbevren | we nearly had snow in july the year we camped just off lake superior |
| 13:24.36 | jbevren | it got down to the mid 30s that night |
| 13:24.40 | existx | god damn |
| 13:25.07 | jbevren | pea soup fog |
| 13:25.10 | jbevren | literally |
| 13:25.22 | jbevren | you go to the nearest tree to water it and lose site of your tent 5 feet away |
| 13:25.24 | existx | i'll be on again shortly, heading to ''work'' :) |
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| 14:03.04 | lg | Could not find a buildoot for 0.9.26, does anybody have a copy of the old toolchain script for 0.9.26? |
| 14:04.08 | prpplague | 0.9.26 of what? |
| 14:04.50 | lg | prpplague: Sorry. uClibc 0.9.26. I need to build a cross-compiling toolchain with that version of uClibc |
| 14:05.31 | prpplague | lg: should be able to just do an svn pull for a version of buildroot that supports that version of uclibc |
| 14:06.24 | lg | prpplague: Is there such a version? The oldest I could find supports 0.9.27. |
| 14:07.03 | prpplague | yea i'm sure there is |
| 14:07.29 | lg | prpplague: Thanks. |
| 14:09.52 | prpplague | lg: hmm, looks like when they moved to svn from cvs that the earliest version in svn is 0.9.27 |
| 14:10.01 | prpplague | lg: why do you need 0.9.26? |
| 14:13.52 | lg | prpplague: I've some binaries compiled against it and need to debug them. |
| 14:15.52 | CosmicPenguin | its been so long since I've done any tcl |
| 14:16.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 14:17.09 | prpplague | lg: recompile them against 0.9.27 |
| 14:17.34 | lg | prpplague: don't have sources :-( |
| 14:20.19 | prpplague | lg: and do how do you expect to debug it? |
| 14:21.13 | lg | prpplague: I need at least an environment to run them and trace their execution. |
| 14:23.15 | prpplague | lg: need to get the sources, sinces its linked against uclibc, the software is obligated to provide an object file so that i can be linked against newer versions of the library |
| 14:25.22 | lg | prpplague: I know. Maybe is my fault. It seems a standard BCM634x developer kit, but I could not find the sources for some binaries. |
| 14:31.57 | lg | So now I'm stuck with linking uClibc and kernel-headers 2.6.9 on mips. |
| 14:33.16 | prpplague | lg: doesn't sound to good |
| 14:33.23 | jbevren | http://www.edtp.com/airdropp_page.htm |
| 14:33.29 | jbevren | is it me or are there four wires going to the cf wireless slot |
| 14:33.46 | lg | prpplague: No, it doesn't. |
| 14:33.46 | jbevren | correction; 10 |
| 14:34.12 | prpplague | jbevren: yea thats what it looks like |
| 14:34.22 | prpplague | jbevren: should be able to run the card in 8-bit mode |
| 14:34.49 | jbevren | didnt konw the prisms would do that ;-) |
| 14:34.54 | prpplague | jbevren: but then you can't see the other side |
| 14:35.01 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:35.11 | prpplague | why not look at the schematic? |
| 14:35.19 | jbevren | cause I didnt see it until just now |
| 14:35.19 | jbevren | lol |
| 14:35.23 | jbevren | I noticed it as you did |
| 14:36.33 | prpplague | jbevren: 10 bit address 8 bit data |
| 14:36.36 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:36.38 | jbevren | I see |
| 14:36.49 | jbevren | I have a couple CF prisms |
| 14:36.58 | jbevren | the sandisk wifi/128M combo cards |
| 14:37.19 | jbevren | they work well in windows, damned if I can make em work in linux |
| 14:37.53 | prpplague | jbevren: yea because they are multi function |
| 14:38.03 | jbevren | not really |
| 14:38.09 | jbevren | the cf part is easy (ide_cs) |
| 14:38.16 | jbevren | the hostap driver finds the card |
| 14:38.19 | jbevren | but all it says is no pri f/w |
| 14:38.41 | jbevren | iirc I finally got it to upload firmware, but thereafter, scanning wifi doesnt find anything |
| 14:38.56 | jbevren | it works in openzaurus |
| 14:39.26 | prpplague | jbevren: it does? |
| 14:39.31 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:39.40 | jbevren | thats where I found the instructions for hostap |
| 14:43.27 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 14:43.28 | CosmicPenguin | tcl |
| 14:45.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: started a new channel for the new spi subsystem, #spi-core |
| 14:45.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so if you run across anyone trying to implement it, send them there |
| 14:48.35 | jbevren | prpplague: implementing it as a new bus (a-la isa, pci, i2c, etc?) |
| 14:49.15 | prpplague | jbevren: no there is a new subsystem in the 2.6 kernel (actually back ported to 2.4.20 as well) that helps with spi based drivers |
| 14:49.31 | prpplague | jbevren: http://spi-devel.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:51.05 | CosmicPenguin | argh! |
| 14:51.07 | CosmicPenguin | w |
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| 14:51.21 | CosmicPenguin | so foreach in tcl just picks whatever hell pair in the array it wants? |
| 14:51.55 | CosmicPenguin | thats horribly annoying |
| 14:58.06 | prpplague | i've almost got the entire neverwhere series downloaded, wahooo |
| 15:04.40 | jbevren | prpplague: cool |
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| 15:16.29 | prpplague | i hate it when i have so many things to tinker with that i can't decide which one i should do first |
| 15:17.17 | agaffney | heh |
| 15:17.23 | agaffney | I have that problem all the time |
| 15:18.25 | prpplague | i've got a ton of stuff to do with the juicebox, i have the pixter, i have some ft2232 jtag/spi stuff, i have the enc28j60 driver i need to work on |
| 15:21.53 | jbevren | so does anyone know of a wheel mouse that doesn't randomly scroll while clicking? |
| 15:22.19 | jbevren | prpplague: btw, do you have a link to documentation on building a simple program with no kernel or libc? |
| 15:22.24 | agaffney | jbevren: I've got a logitech at home and a different logitech at work |
| 15:22.30 | agaffney | both work great for me |
| 15:22.36 | jbevren | (for building a test binary for the pixterMM) |
| 15:22.38 | agaffney | the optical scroll mice |
| 15:22.42 | jbevren | agaffney: Okies |
| 15:22.54 | jbevren | I have a ms intellimouse (white one) that does it to me enough to make me scream |
| 15:23.08 | jbevren | I probably look silly explaining to my computer that I didn't scroll |
| 15:23.14 | agaffney | haha |
| 15:23.16 | agaffney | probably |
| 15:24.02 | prpplague | jbevren: for the juicebox? |
| 15:24.08 | jbevren | sure |
| 15:24.11 | jbevren | I could adapt it |
| 15:24.14 | jbevren | is it on the wiki? |
| 15:24.18 | prpplague | jbevren: its there on the wiki |
| 15:24.27 | jbevren | thing is, I dont know C well enough to do much heh |
| 15:24.38 | jbevren | the biggest question for me is how to write to specific areas of memory |
| 15:24.53 | jbevren | anyway, I'll look at the JB stuff and see if I can figure it out (I'm good at learning by example) |
| 15:25.54 | jbevren | schnaps in a can? |
| 15:26.03 | jbevren | oop wrong channel |
| 15:26.04 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:27.20 | agaffney | heh |
| 15:28.56 | jbevren | prpplague: I want to see how well the 16bit mode on the lcd controller works heh |
| 15:29.12 | jbevren | so I figure I'll include a binary image in a small program to set up the fb and display it |
| 15:29.31 | jbevren | GIMP has the handy ability to save an image as an includable C file |
| 15:31.45 | prpplague | jbevren: oh, then you can look at the demo app for the JB |
| 15:31.59 | jbevren | ok thanks |
| 15:50.13 | jbevren | grumble |
| 15:50.17 | jbevren | cant wget a tarball from the wiki |
| 15:57.26 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.26 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.26 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.26 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.27 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.28 | jbevren | slick |
| 15:57.31 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:15.30 | prpplague | i hate having elinux.org on shitforge.net |
| 16:22.57 | jbevren | want me to host it when I get my server put online? ;-) |
| 16:25.04 | prpplague | jbevren: its up and down on bandwidth, depends on whats a hot topic at the momment |
| 16:25.15 | jbevren | nod |
| 16:25.23 | jbevren | the site I'm going to has a 10Mbit unmetered line |
| 16:25.40 | jbevren | the box is a dual 600mhz p3 with scsi raid |
| 16:25.47 | jbevren | I'm going to stuff it with ram before I send it |
| 16:26.29 | prpplague | jbevren: yea that probably will be plenty |
| 16:26.38 | prpplague | jbevren: you'd have to talk to timriker |
| 16:26.43 | jbevren | I'm going to splurge and put 2G ram in it heh |
| 16:26.49 | jbevren | nod, I'll bug him once I'm ready |
| 16:26.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: i've added a rs-232 level shifter page to the wiki |
| 16:27.09 | prpplague | GPSFan: if you have any projects using one, please reference that page |
| 16:27.24 | jbevren | "This issue is triggered by utilizing JavaScript 'OnKeyDown' events to capture and duplicate keystrokes from users," |
| 16:27.26 | jbevren | lol nice |
| 16:32.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: nice, although you might say that the MAX233 only works at 5V vcc, while the 233A "will work" down to 3.0V vcc. |
| 16:32.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: ? |
| 16:32.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: are you sure about that? |
| 16:34.56 | GPSFan | yes, I'm using a 233A on my Zipit interface and powering it off 2 AA cells, the spec doesn't say it will work , but lots of people use it at 3.3V. I wouldn't in a real life production product, but for "hobby" projects, and in a pinch it works. Probaably not to the full 230kbps, but it's ok at at least 56kbps. |
| 16:35.20 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh, interesting |
| 16:35.26 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll make a not |
| 16:35.27 | prpplague | note |
| 16:35.37 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 16:35.59 | prpplague | GPSFan: so the 233a can be powered by 3.3v eh even though the spec says its 5v powered? |
| 16:36.34 | GPSFan | yes, I forget where I first saw the reference to it, but it does. |
| 16:36.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: why didn't you just use a 3233 ? |
| 16:37.02 | GPSFan | I didn't have one, I had a few 233A's. |
| 16:37.35 | prpplague | ahh |
| 16:37.47 | GPSFan | as I said for a production product that would be a definate no-no, but in a pinch... |
| 16:38.39 | GPSFan | I've built RS-232 interfaces out of transistors, many times when that's all I had around. |
| 16:44.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: page updated |
| 16:48.24 | GPSFan | prpplague: swell.. you might add a link to the ZipitSerialMods page which shows a schematic and has a bit of a discussion. |
| 16:49.10 | GPSFan | s/SerialMods/SerialMod |
| 16:49.23 | GPSFan | http://elinux.org/wiki/ZipitSerialMod |
| 16:52.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe did you look at the zipitserialmod page? |
| 16:52.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: besides i'm using that page for some other projects as well |
| 17:03.39 | prpplague | man i'm doing a fresh cvs pull on one of our kernels and its taking forever |
| 17:03.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 17:03.56 | CosmicPenguin | pong |
| 17:04.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: question |
| 17:04.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i have 3 boards all based on the s3c2410 |
| 17:04.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they have several differences |
| 17:04.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but share vast majority of linux kernel |
| 17:05.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: question, would handle that with three seperate branches? or just one tree and just share it all? |
| 17:05.27 | prpplague | i/you |
| 17:05.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm learning towards just one tree |
| 17:06.06 | jbevren | prpplague: look at how the powerpc 4xx tree works |
| 17:06.14 | jbevren | that supports several types of boards :) |
| 17:06.33 | prpplague | jbevren: i mean in revision control |
| 17:06.39 | jbevren | ohh I see |
| 17:09.09 | GPSFan | prpplague: yeah, I looked at it, you were the last to mod it, ... don't mind me today, my brain is fried. bbl.. |
| 17:09.36 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe |
| 17:09.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: np |
| 17:10.01 | prpplague | GPSFan: i just added a link where it talks about using the level shifter |
| 17:10.13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah - I would go one tree |
| 17:12.43 | prpplague | wahoo!!!! they started construction on a TGI Fridays yesterday!!! |
| 17:12.49 | prpplague | a taste of home |
| 17:13.41 | jbevren | I'd enjoy an extended visit |
| 17:13.46 | jbevren | but i'd still come back to my nice cool Iowa |
| 17:31.27 | prpplague | man this cvs co is taking 4-ever |
| 17:46.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: been to "Rock Bottom" ? |
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| 18:26.50 | CosmicPenguin | My very favorite bar is a Rock Bottom owned bar |
| 18:26.53 | CosmicPenguin | but its called Old Chicago |
| 18:27.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
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| 19:29.25 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 19:29.30 | prpplague | i'm just out of it today |
| 19:29.54 | CosmicPenguin | today? |
| 19:29.57 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 19:37.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea yea, go ahead make fun of me |
| 19:37.52 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:54.32 | flyabck | http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20060606235605.html |
| 19:54.37 | flyabck | this is more insane than Iam |
| 20:35.15 | jbevren | random link |
| 20:35.15 | jbevren | http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/06/how_to_build_your_own_band_aid.html |
| 20:35.52 | prpplague | weird weird weird |
| 20:35.58 | CosmicPenguin | its supposed to go to sleep, and then come back when you press the button |
| 20:35.58 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 20:36.21 | CosmicPenguin | wow - its mega hot out side - 96 degrees in early June? |
| 20:36.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, thats what its suppose to do |
| 20:37.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and it does for one ramdisk, the other it doesn't |
| 20:37.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doesn't make much sense |
| 20:46.36 | prpplague | ahh bootloader issue |
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| 21:50.21 | jbevren | wb |
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| 22:30.11 | CosmicPenguin | its time to start seriously learning how bluetooth works beyond a simple ppp connection |
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| 22:40.42 | agaffney | heh, dongle |
| 22:40.45 | agaffney | I love that word P |
| 22:40.47 | agaffney | :P |
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| 23:20.10 | flyback | grow up :P |
| 23:22.32 | CosmicPenguin | fun |
| 23:23.07 | flyback | hey CosmicPenguin sorry about the other day |
| 23:23.14 | flyback | I am having a med problem and I am getting a bit stressed |
| 23:23.23 | flyback | I didn't mean to sound like I was talking it out on you |
| 23:23.43 | flyback | heh |
| 23:23.52 | flyback | CosmicPenguin playing with BT is like ted nugent playing with nuke missles |
| 23:25.55 | CosmicPenguin | I need more bluetooth toys |