| 00:14.23 | flyback | http://www.openlinux.org/releasedetail.cfm?id=21370 <---- HAHAHAHAHA |
| 00:43.19 | agaffney | uhhhhhhhh |
| 00:44.29 | agaffney | you have got to be fscking joking |
| 00:46.43 | flyback | yeah WHAT THE CANUCK? |
| 00:47.37 | agaffney | I don't get it |
| 00:48.04 | agaffney | now that they actually *know* there is offending code (whether it's true or not), isn't releasing it under the GPL effectively nullifying their claims in the law suit? |
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| 02:38.31 | bioeng | Hi everyone |
| 02:40.21 | bioeng | Is anyone alive in here? |
| 03:08.32 | bioeng | Hello? |
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| 06:48.44 | flyback | flyback- whoa knoppix 5.01 changelog: limited but safe transparent write access for NTFS partitions (libntfs+fuse) |
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| 14:06.43 | jbevren | yawn |
| 14:09.52 | prpplague | jbevren: hey crack baby |
| 14:10.07 | prpplague | i thought you were gonna be gone this weekend |
| 14:16.32 | jbevren | I technically still am |
| 14:16.42 | jbevren | everyone's sleeping in so I commandeered my cousin's computer |
| 14:17.21 | jbevren | hm the leapster uses CoB tech for its cpu |
| 14:17.26 | jbevren | the l-max uses altera PLDs |
| 14:17.36 | jbevren | (online web research) |
| 14:18.42 | jbevren | did you scratch the pixter any? |
| 14:23.24 | jbevren | zzz |
| 14:24.13 | prpplague | no not yet been busy this weekend |
| 14:24.19 | jbevren | slacker :D |
| 14:24.24 | jbevren | (not that I have much room to talk) |
| 14:24.24 | prpplague | jbevren: kinda not feeling well either |
| 14:25.23 | prpplague | jbevren: i've been fighting a bad case of depression lately over my wife's visa and our living arrangments |
| 14:25.46 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:25.51 | prpplague | flyback: ping |
| 14:27.39 | prpplague | jbevren: flyback was spouting something yesterday indicating that disney just release a device that looks to be a pixter |
| 14:28.01 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:28.03 | jbevren | I read |
| 14:28.17 | jbevren | I hit the irc logs hoping you'd spouted something about the pixter ;) |
| 14:28.44 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:28.46 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:29.27 | prpplague | yea the leapster uses an arctangent processor |
| 14:30.20 | prpplague | http://www.arc.com/gallery/index.html?page=1&showall=TRUE |
| 14:30.20 | jbevren | I"m not as disturbed by the CoB process as I am by the altera PLDs |
| 14:32.34 | prpplague | yea |
| 14:33.08 | prpplague | jbevren: are they plds? or fpgas? |
| 14:34.06 | jbevren | a fpga is a pld :) |
| 14:34.19 | jbevren | pld is a general term I use to refer to any programmable logic device |
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| 14:35.33 | jbevren | its apparently (on atmel's site) used to process video data into ntsc format |
| 14:38.21 | jbevren | prpplague: max II cpld's |
| 14:38.22 | tuxmaniac | I know I am asking this for the second time. But this one last time bare with me |
| 14:38.45 | jbevren | tuxmaniac: You can use a juicebox (http://elinux.org/wiki) if youre patient |
| 14:39.03 | jbevren | mine cost me $5 :D |
| 14:39.57 | tuxmaniac | jbevren> this page does not exist!! :( |
| 14:40.35 | jbevren | contrary |
| 14:40.36 | jbevren | it does |
| 14:40.39 | jbevren | from there, click frontpage |
| 14:40.51 | jbevren | and thank sourceforge.net for the brokenness :) |
| 14:42.17 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: what money range are you looking at? |
| 14:42.31 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: http://www.elinux.org/wiki/ |
| 14:42.38 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: you need the extra / at the end |
| 14:42.43 | tuxmaniac | for hobby purpose. Somewhere around 12 K INR which is |
| 14:43.17 | jbevren | around 260 bucks |
| 14:43.20 | tuxmaniac | 250 $ |
| 14:43.23 | jbevren | :D |
| 14:43.34 | jbevren | thats a pretty good budget |
| 14:44.15 | tuxmaniac | heh. have not thought about how I will get that money though. But I will get it. I am not learning much at work. So thought I will set up my own lab and learn :) |
| 14:44.33 | jbevren | prpplague: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=755 |
| 14:44.35 | jbevren | very cute heh |
| 14:45.09 | jbevren | tuxmaniac: youre located in india? |
| 14:45.13 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: just wanting to learning gui's ? |
| 14:45.24 | prpplague | jbevren: yea i ordered some |
| 14:45.30 | tuxmaniac | yes. also device drivers |
| 14:45.34 | tuxmaniac | prpplague> ^ |
| 14:45.39 | tuxmaniac | jbevren> yes am in INDIA |
| 14:45.44 | jbevren | tuxmaniac: cool |
| 14:46.08 | tuxmaniac | jbevren> is there something interesting about it |
| 14:46.20 | jbevren | tuxmaniac: I was just curious about your using rupees |
| 14:46.56 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: with lcd? |
| 14:47.29 | tuxmaniac | prpplague> that would be better. |
| 14:48.07 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: it is difficult to really recommend, since i am not sure of your background |
| 14:48.08 | flyback | prpplague you ever see the movei "space cowboys" |
| 14:48.13 | prpplague | flyback: yea |
| 14:48.22 | prpplague | flyback: whats this bout a disney handheld? |
| 14:48.23 | flyback | that would be a good way to die :) |
| 14:48.28 | prpplague | flyback: yea |
| 14:48.36 | flyback | oh it's dropping $40 now and going down |
| 14:48.39 | flyback | it looks like a pixter |
| 14:48.45 | prpplague | flyback: url? |
| 14:48.48 | tuxmaniac | prpplague> considering me as a advanced newbie :-) |
| 14:48.51 | flyback | they have like a disney theme and cinderella |
| 14:48.53 | flyback | lemme find one |
| 14:48.58 | flyback | I saw it at walmart clearance |
| 14:49.15 | jbevren | hrm |
| 14:49.24 | jbevren | prpplague: quadrature output. Nice trackball |
| 14:49.28 | jbevren | it'd hook right to an amiga ;-) |
| 14:49.44 | flyback | oh also |
| 14:49.45 | flyback | guys |
| 14:49.48 | flyback | I found the other one |
| 14:49.49 | flyback | the mini |
| 14:49.50 | flyback | http://cgi.ebay.com/FISHER-PRICE-Pocket-PIXTER-Extreme-SPORTS-Toy-NEW_W0QQitemZ6064998171QQcategoryZ232QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 14:49.59 | flyback | I have a trackpad from a old laptop |
| 14:50.03 | flyback | has a pic on it |
| 14:50.11 | flyback | synaptics is the most common brand |
| 14:51.12 | flyback | damn |
| 14:51.30 | flyback | that always gets to me when people sacrifise themselves |
| 14:51.35 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: http://www.littlechips.com/LN2410SBC_LP35.htm |
| 14:51.46 | flyback | wow |
| 14:51.50 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: thats the board i would recommend, however its out of your budget range |
| 14:51.52 | tuxmaniac | heh. thats the same thing mbuf has got |
| 14:51.52 | flyback | I think it is a clone of the pixter |
| 14:51.57 | prpplague | url? |
| 14:52.03 | flyback | dude I saw it at walmart |
| 14:52.10 | flyback | but I am looking at a pixter pic while googling |
| 14:52.14 | flyback | I can't remeber trhe name |
| 14:52.57 | tuxmaniac | prpplague> Guess mbuf has the same one too |
| 14:53.17 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: yea |
| 14:53.26 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: you know him? |
| 14:53.38 | prpplague | flyback: you said it had a cinderalla theme? |
| 14:53.57 | tuxmaniac | prpplague> we bith do Embedded & VLSI workshops together in Colleges |
| 14:53.58 | tuxmaniac | :) |
| 14:54.13 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: ahh |
| 14:54.39 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: well next time you see him, slap him and tell him to come join in at #edev |
| 14:54.47 | tuxmaniac | heh. sure |
| 14:55.09 | flyback | damn can't find it on walmart |
| 14:55.17 | flyback | there was a mickey mouse one |
| 14:55.19 | flyback | and cinderlla |
| 14:56.12 | flyback | got it |
| 14:56.13 | flyback | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6045841767&category=52343 |
| 14:56.14 | prpplague | flyback: anything else you can remember? |
| 14:56.26 | flyback | sorry it took so long |
| 14:57.15 | prpplague | oh oh nice |
| 14:57.17 | prpplague | has usb slave |
| 14:57.23 | prpplague | got to be arm |
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| 14:58.14 | jbevren | prpplague: hrm |
| 14:58.15 | jbevren | indeed |
| 14:58.24 | flyback | I guess they didn't sell well |
| 14:59.27 | prpplague | hmm guess i need to buy a couple off ebay |
| 14:59.36 | flyback | heheh let me know how it goes |
| 14:59.51 | jbevren | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6045841767& |
| 14:59.53 | jbevren | grr |
| 14:59.54 | jbevren | wtf |
| 15:00.02 | jbevren | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007YDBBY/002-1467678-7444006?v=glance |
| 15:00.04 | jbevren | there |
| 15:00.28 | flyback | ok then it's not a pixter clone |
| 15:00.32 | flyback | thx jbevren |
| 15:00.48 | jbevren | flyback: right |
| 15:00.52 | jbevren | but its a good find |
| 15:00.55 | prpplague | much higher battery needs |
| 15:00.57 | prpplague | 6 AA |
| 15:00.57 | flyback | still might be fun to look into |
| 15:01.01 | jbevren | prpplague: nod |
| 15:01.10 | jbevren | prpplague: design difference (more power needed) probably |
| 15:01.12 | prpplague | looks alot smaler |
| 15:01.21 | flyback | man this fan I bought myd ad for today |
| 15:01.30 | flyback | it's 12 volts, can run off 8 d batteries or the ac adaptor |
| 15:01.37 | flyback | since it's 12 you could run it off a car too |
| 15:01.48 | flyback | it ran 8 hrs off a 12 volt 4.5ah battery sla |
| 15:01.49 | flyback | :) |
| 15:02.01 | flyback | I might have to get myself one for $13 |
| 15:02.08 | jbevren | flyhback :) |
| 15:02.16 | flyback | only thign bad is since it's a dc motor it will have limited life due to brushes |
| 15:02.18 | flyback | but hell for $13 |
| 15:02.28 | flyback | oh yeah also it moves a good amount of air ;) |
| 15:02.50 | prpplague | man if i'd seen these i would have bought one right away |
| 15:03.02 | flyback | you mean the disney thing ? |
| 15:03.08 | prpplague | i hate living here |
| 15:03.09 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:03.26 | flyback | ever think of asking the company for the hell of it |
| 15:03.36 | prpplague | ?? |
| 15:03.45 | flyback | see if they are insterested in linux support as a means to sell more or something |
| 15:03.54 | prpplague | uh, they don't care |
| 15:04.06 | flyback | didn't think so but thought I would give it a suggestion shot ;P |
| 15:05.10 | flyback | if it's color I would guess it has to be 32 bit right? |
| 15:05.22 | flyback | I mean you don't need 32 bits for color but I would think it's a logical fit |
| 15:06.06 | flyback | espically with arm cores so damn cheap |
| 15:07.06 | jbevren | flyback: the pixter uses 8bit mode, but its arm MCU can do 16bit |
| 15:07.19 | prpplague | wow the reviews are terrible |
| 15:07.32 | jbevren | havent read reviews |
| 15:07.34 | flyback | prpplague probably why it's so cheap now |
| 15:07.35 | jbevren | why's it horrible? |
| 15:07.36 | flyback | :P |
| 15:07.36 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:07.47 | prpplague | jbevren: just look on that amazon.com url you sent |
| 15:08.22 | flyback | wow |
| 15:08.29 | flyback | prpplague it's more unstable than I am |
| 15:08.34 | flyback | :P |
| 15:08.36 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:08.38 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:09.13 | flyback | still, if they get cheap enough, might be worth hacking up if the problems are something we can band-aid around |
| 15:10.54 | flyback | Thank God |
| 15:11.06 | flyback | my irc "son" who is only 17 went out drinking |
| 15:11.16 | flyback | his ass is seriously hung over now, mabye that will teach him |
| 15:11.19 | flyback | I hope :/ |
| 15:13.57 | flyback | hopefully he won't turn into the next idiot that kills a couple on their way to get married |
| 15:14.04 | flyback | that happen around here how f***ed up is that? |
| 15:14.40 | flyback | why I could never be a cop, i'd beat the guy to death |
| 15:16.40 | flyback | http://www.jazwaresstore.com/category/Disney_Dream_Sketcher_and_Software.html |
| 15:16.46 | flyback | there's the other one |
| 15:17.23 | flyback | here if you guys want to check the software |
| 15:17.24 | flyback | http://www.jazwares.com/dreamsketcher/troubleshooting.html |
| 15:18.14 | flyback | http://www.jazwares.com/dreamsketcher/15.mov |
| 15:18.17 | flyback | commercial |
| 15:19.09 | flyback | screen does look a tad low end but looks very workable for projects |
| 15:23.12 | jbevren | hm |
| 15:23.13 | jbevren | ebay 9743063889 |
| 15:25.18 | flyback | man that reminds me, I should donate a juicebox to the local college mabye |
| 15:25.33 | flyback | for the electronics professors whatever it's called |
| 15:25.36 | flyback | divison or something |
| 15:26.01 | flyback | someone was telling me they showed one to their professor and he was like "holy s***" |
| 15:29.51 | flyback | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 15:29.53 | flyback | http://elinux.org/wiki/JuiceWareXdSocket2?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=11-JB-XD-a.jpg |
| 15:29.56 | flyback | they do make those |
| 15:30.16 | flyback | I was thinking about this for yrs "boy would a wide blade solder iron tip be handy for smt" |
| 15:45.10 | flyback | http://tech.moneycontrol.com/news/riaa-sues-youtube-users/1526/india/ |
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| 16:52.15 | prpplague | interesting |
| 16:52.16 | prpplague | http://www.jazwares.com/dreamsketcher/license.html |
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| 17:44.04 | prpplague | T0mW: hey |
| 17:45.11 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: btw, what happened to mbuf's web site? |
| 17:51.00 | tuxmaniac | prpplague> why? its up only na? |
| 18:02.37 | T0mW | prpplague: hello |
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| 18:35.46 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: i've not been able to access it, it appeared to down for a long time |
| 18:36.01 | tuxmaniac | its up again. plain html :) |
| 18:36.03 | prpplague | T0mW: whats cooking?(besides the grass) |
| 18:36.08 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: url? |
| 18:36.19 | prpplague | tuxmaniac: i don't have it bookmarked at the house |
| 18:38.08 | tuxmaniac | prpplague> http://www.shakthimaan.com |
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| 19:14.27 | T0mW | prpplague: nothing, absolutely nothing. I'm sitting here in the air conditioning in my underwear and watching some movies. |
| 19:16.18 | T0mW | hmm, 500G IDE drives are down to $250 now |
| 19:36.46 | prpplague | T0mW: way too much info d00d |
| 19:36.49 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 20:25.55 | T0mW | prpplague: heh |
| 21:10.01 | jbevren | grumble |
| 21:10.07 | jbevren | uboot bug on the dht walnut |
| 21:10.09 | jbevren | => setenv baudrate=9600 |
| 21:10.10 | jbevren | => echo ${baudrate} |
| 21:10.10 | jbevren | => |
| 21:15.34 | jbevren | sweet. now I cant set a baudrate |
| 21:15.36 | jbevren | at all. |
| 21:19.54 | jbevren | I cant set -any- env's |
| 21:20.34 | agaffney | I wasn't aware uboot interpolated like that |
| 21:20.43 | jbevren | bashism |
| 21:20.47 | jbevren | it should at least feed me an error |
| 21:20.57 | agaffney | does printenv show the new value? |
| 21:21.04 | jbevren | oh that was cool |
| 21:21.12 | jbevren | now that I set it to 9600, it freezes after PCI |
| 21:21.17 | agaffney | heh |
| 21:21.18 | jbevren | wonderbar |
| 21:21.28 | jbevren | I'd whine more but the software's free. |
| 21:21.35 | agaffney | heh |
| 21:21.53 | jbevren | may as well be bricked. |
| 21:22.47 | jbevren | a second try gives me life |
| 21:22.52 | jbevren | m/e celebrates halfheartedly heh |
| 21:23.11 | agaffney | heh |
| 21:24.41 | jbevren | yay dram 128M (256M by half) |
| 21:25.43 | jbevren | shame it cant use pc100 :) |
| 21:25.48 | jbevren | I have some pc100 128's |
| 21:27.38 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 21:28.14 | jbevren | heh |
| 21:28.16 | jbevren | what'd they do? |
| 21:28.24 | jbevren | replace context menus? |
| 21:28.36 | sunrunner20 | blackboard is a online class software |
| 21:28.43 | sunrunner20 | they don't want me pringing the results |
| 21:30.58 | jbevren | of course |
| 21:31.03 | sunrunner20 | once i'm all done with the class i'll send a email to my teacher |
| 21:31.09 | sunrunner20 | he's a comp sci major lol |
| 21:31.19 | sunrunner20 | with a major in economic too |
| 21:34.29 | sunrunner20 | and whats kinda funny: It took me longer to realize they were preventing me from printing the page w/ codeing vs. me thinking it was some bug |
| 21:34.38 | sunrunner20 | err |
| 21:34.44 | sunrunner20 | vs. breaking their code |
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| 21:35.14 | sunrunner20 | 4 characters, in one file "/* <down like 16 lines> */" |
| 21:43.48 | jbevren | heh |
| 21:44.00 | jbevren | success. |
| 21:44.01 | jbevren | heh |
| 21:44.12 | jbevren | . o O ( now what ) |
| 21:44.14 | jbevren | :D |
| 21:44.29 | jbevren | oh btw, anyone know where to get small 4-wire resistive touch screens? |
| 21:44.41 | flyback | your mom |
| 21:44.48 | jbevren | flyback: canuck. |
| 21:44.51 | jbevren | lol :) |
| 21:45.03 | flyback | heh |
| 21:45.06 | jbevren | my mom's dead, and I aint digging 6 feet to get a touch screen |
| 21:45.14 | jbevren | so if she's got one , she can keep it |
| 21:45.18 | flyback | heh |
| 21:45.45 | jbevren | hm. nfsroot handled an IP address change well enough lol |
| 21:46.30 | jbevren | although linux found 256M ram (?) |
| 21:47.14 | sunrunner20 | linux is good at finding work arounds |
| 21:47.19 | jbevren | heh |
| 21:47.22 | sunrunner20 | thats what i love about it |
| 21:47.28 | jbevren | but I thought the DHT walnut was missnig a wire for the other bank |
| 21:47.31 | jbevren | (?) |
| 21:47.55 | sunrunner20 | fill the mem |
| 21:47.55 | sunrunner20 | see if it crashes |
| 21:48.00 | sunrunner20 | ould be an errous reading |
| 21:48.01 | sunrunner20 | anyway |
| 21:48.04 | sunrunner20 | more economics for me :\ |
| 21:54.10 | jbevren | 214M used ram (230 copies of lynx running) and no crash |
| 21:56.09 | jbevren | apparently, I can use all 256M ram |
| 21:56.46 | flyback | how is that possible |
| 21:56.51 | flyback | if you don't really have 256 in |
| 21:56.53 | jbevren | flyback: magic |
| 21:56.57 | jbevren | I have a 256 |
| 21:57.00 | flyback | ah ok |
| 21:57.08 | jbevren | the uboot docs say you can use one half (128M) cause its two banks thereof |
| 21:57.15 | jbevren | however, linux seems to have initialized the other bank of 128 |
| 21:58.04 | jbevren | 253844k in use |
| 21:59.31 | flyback | http://www.eet.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=2YPYPCDLLO35YQSNDLOSKH0CJUNN2JVN?articleID=189500135 <--- you know dell adding amd to their server line did this |
| 22:02.51 | GPSFan | jbevren: what kind of 256M ram are you using? |
| 22:04.26 | jbevren | kingston valueram |
| 22:04.48 | jbevren | kvr133x64c3/256 |
| 22:04.52 | jbevren | CL3 pc133 ram |
| 22:05.11 | jbevren | I got it from digikey |
| 22:05.34 | jbevren | spoils from a dumb client (she told me she needed sdram when she needed ddr) :) |
| 22:06.07 | GPSFan | jbevren: thanks, that's very interesting, I rang out the chip selects on my board and the second bank isn't connected. I wonder what's going on. |
| 22:06.23 | jbevren | quite curious yeah |
| 22:06.31 | jbevren | uboot 1.1.4 assumes 128M |
| 22:06.37 | jbevren | kernel must ahve probed it on its own |
| 22:07.07 | jbevren | too many OOMs to read teh boot log :) |
| 22:07.15 | GPSFan | yeahbut, what did it probe? the eeprom? or the actual ram? |
| 22:07.21 | GPSFan | what version kernel? |
| 22:07.34 | jbevren | Jun 18 16:40:25 ppc_nfsroot kernel: Memory: 256000k available (2496k kernel code |
| 22:07.34 | jbevren | , 932k data, 160k init, 0k highmem) |
| 22:07.42 | jbevren | ppc_nfsroot:/var/log# uname -a |
| 22:07.42 | jbevren | Linux ppc_nfsroot 2.6.15.4-gref: ref #47 Mon Feb 20 13:26:58 MST 2006 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 22:07.51 | jbevren | this is the kernel linked at the wiki |
| 22:08.10 | GPSFan | time to RTFS some more... |
| 22:08.58 | jbevren | I expected a panic past 128M but didnt get that |
| 22:09.35 | flyback | wow looks like micron just bought lexar, that will be insteresting |
| 22:10.20 | flyback | I have done that also |
| 22:10.27 | flyback | you almost can tell stuff from patterns |
| 22:11.14 | jbevren | running memtester on 200M |
| 22:11.51 | jbevren | its checked and pass 4 steps in stuck address |
| 22:12.08 | flyback | did yuo see the new bit fade test |
| 22:12.17 | flyback | oh you are on PPC |
| 22:12.18 | flyback | nm |
| 22:12.20 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:12.25 | jbevren | ram is ram |
| 22:12.29 | jbevren | but yeah I'm on the ppc |
| 22:12.34 | flyback | well you can't run memtest86 on ppc :) |
| 22:13.06 | flyback | I wish I had time to setup my walnut |
| 22:13.12 | flyback | mabye after I get this job done |
| 22:13.30 | flyback | how is the walnut's mp3 performance? |
| 22:13.57 | jbevren | I believe gpsfan has used a usb audio dongle to play mp3 |
| 22:14.09 | jbevren | with libmad's integer mp3 decoding, it should do well |
| 22:14.28 | sunrunner20 | for that |
| 22:14.36 | sunrunner20 | i'd buy a mini-ITX system |
| 22:15.03 | GPSFan | jbevren: it does ok, however I blew out a usb audio module due to a ground loop with my stereo ;>( |
| 22:15.57 | agaffney | if they're creative, good luck :P |
| 22:16.01 | flyback | I am starting to feel guilty about planning to only use it as a router/firewall |
| 22:16.02 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 22:16.03 | jbevren | GPSFan: I'm dealing with that on a keyboard amp |
| 22:16.07 | flyback | my friend said audioPCI is fully supported now |
| 22:16.15 | jbevren | if I dont ground the audio line, I get no noise, but if I do, I get cpu bus noise |
| 22:16.28 | jbevren | laptop and amplifier are both 3prong, in the same outlet strip |
| 22:16.33 | jbevren | tests ok so far |
| 22:16.35 | agaffney | I've got an es1370 and a es1371 that both break in weird and wonderful ways on the walnut |
| 22:16.37 | jbevren | xor sub mul div or and all passed |
| 22:16.38 | GPSFan | es1370/1371 cards work ok, VORTEX2 cards don't |
| 22:16.39 | jbevren | seq passed too |
| 22:16.41 | agaffney | but my USB audio device works great |
| 22:16.54 | jbevren | I should try my sblive's |
| 22:17.27 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:17.36 | jbevren | the solid bit test is completely wiping my station out |
| 22:17.53 | flyback | hahahaa |
| 22:17.59 | flyback | 'YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!" |
| 22:18.23 | GPSFan | jbevren: how many chips on your kingstom ram card? |
| 22:18.33 | jbevren | its single-sided, physically speaking |
| 22:18.35 | flyback | probably 16 |
| 22:18.38 | flyback | whoa |
| 22:18.39 | jbevren | 8 chips |
| 22:18.42 | flyback | those single side 8 chip 256's |
| 22:18.46 | flyback | don't work in 99% of the boards |
| 22:18.47 | flyback | out there |
| 22:18.52 | flyback | only 16 chip work |
| 22:18.53 | GPSFan | all on one side? |
| 22:18.59 | jbevren | Ive never had a problem with kingston memory |
| 22:19.04 | flyback | mabye something to do with high density like jbe has |
| 22:19.04 | jbevren | like, ever :) |
| 22:19.07 | sunrunner20 | need newwer systems for that |
| 22:19.07 | flyback | is only 1 bank |
| 22:19.09 | jbevren | GPSFan: yep |
| 22:19.14 | flyback | jbe it's a memory density problem |
| 22:19.16 | flyback | not kingston |
| 22:19.26 | jbevren | flyback: I mean, even on older boards |
| 22:19.29 | flyback | most PII chipsets |
| 22:19.31 | jbevren | ganymede is a dual p3/600 for example |
| 22:19.38 | jbevren | which is on a dual p2 board :) |
| 22:19.39 | GPSFan | then it should work ok, it's the 2 sided cards that don't , they are missing the second bank chip selects. |
| 22:19.40 | flyback | will only work with 8 or 16 chip 128's |
| 22:19.43 | flyback | or 16 chip 256's |
| 22:19.47 | flyback | anything else will be detected smaller |
| 22:19.51 | jbevren | GPSFan: I see |
| 22:19.58 | flyback | I was right then |
| 22:20.11 | flyback | jbe 8 chip are also cheaper btw |
| 22:20.13 | flyback | :P |
| 22:20.24 | jbevren | flyback: btw, I do know my p3b-f cant use single-bank 256's |
| 22:20.26 | jbevren | crazy eh? |
| 22:20.38 | flyback | na that's right |
| 22:20.43 | GPSFan | curious I have some 128M single sided ram cards that don't, but they do work fine in my A3000.. |
| 22:20.46 | flyback | only some non-intel p2 chipsets could |
| 22:20.51 | jbevren | and I cant use a gig o fdouble-bank dimms, because the sdram drive strength isnt high enough :) |
| 22:21.06 | flyback | can't you mod the board |
| 22:21.10 | flyback | to increase the strength |
| 22:21.16 | jbevren | to increase teh chipset's driver strength? nope |
| 22:21.16 | flyback | actually some of the bios's have that option |
| 22:21.22 | flyback | you could flip the chipset bits |
| 22:21.28 | jbevren | on the 440bx chipset? :D |
| 22:21.28 | flyback | there are docs howto do that |
| 22:21.39 | sunrunner20 | its a touchy subject |
| 22:21.55 | flyback | problem is no os would be stable till the chipset bits are set |
| 22:21.57 | jbevren | bit 33. 64bits? |
| 22:21.58 | flyback | so best to do from bios |
| 22:22.10 | jbevren | flyback: I just stick to my old pc133 128M dimms |
| 22:22.16 | flyback | you could make a bios extension module |
| 22:22.17 | jbevren | although I need more mem for that workstation now |
| 22:22.18 | flyback | I am going to do that |
| 22:22.21 | flyback | put memtest86 in rom |
| 22:22.24 | flyback | for a ram testing p100 |
| 22:22.48 | flyback | man I am canucked |
| 22:23.00 | flyback | turns out rhel4 doesn't support dmraid out of the box |
| 22:23.07 | GPSFan | jbevren: PC100 ram should work fine, ppcboot/uboot asks the eeprom on the ram what speed it is and sets the timing accordingly. |
| 22:23.08 | flyback | so I am going to have to use pure linux software raid |
| 22:23.22 | jbevren | GPSFan: none of the rams I tried will work |
| 22:23.23 | flyback | problem with that is I dunno if the guy going to admin this box can handle all the steps |
| 22:23.30 | flyback | you can't just swap in a new disk afaik |
| 22:23.34 | flyback | :/ |
| 22:23.58 | GPSFan | that's wierd, my pc100 ram works ok. single sided 64M |
| 22:24.15 | flyback | btw I was reading over kdrive last night |
| 22:24.18 | flyback | that looks sweet |
| 22:24.23 | jbevren | the 512 was an ecc mem, so thats likely how it failed |
| 22:24.28 | GPSFan | my music server runs 24/7 on pc100 |
| 22:24.29 | jbevren | the only other one in the room atm is an 8M |
| 22:24.36 | jbevren | which uboot might not be able to boot in |
| 22:24.51 | GPSFan | ah. |
| 22:24.52 | jbevren | oh |
| 22:24.53 | jbevren | you know |
| 22:24.56 | jbevren | I bet that 8's a pc66 |
| 22:24.58 | flyback | actually I have friends at recyclers |
| 22:25.03 | flyback | going to find some for me |
| 22:25.09 | jbevren | I need to build an eeprom reader :) |
| 22:25.11 | flyback | ya know |
| 22:25.13 | flyback | that's an idea |
| 22:25.26 | flyback | you guys will to help someone learn chip salvage so he could make some cash for his dept |
| 22:25.27 | jbevren | flyback: its just an i2c rom |
| 22:25.31 | flyback | selling more of the stuff he gets rid of |
| 22:25.41 | flyback | in exchange mabye he would send up loads of s*** |
| 22:25.44 | flyback | old laptops etc |
| 22:25.48 | GPSFan | jbevren: I had a version of ppcboot that would dump the eeprom before it tried to set the ram up, very useful |
| 22:26.12 | flyback | i'm teaching him how to take apart hard drives |
| 22:26.22 | flyback | he could sell the magnets $1 each easily to students, kids and professors |
| 22:26.26 | flyback | they have tons of uses or just fun |
| 22:27.18 | flyback | i'm talking simple stuff not teaching him how to smt solder etc |
| 22:27.18 | jbevren | solid bit test passed |
| 22:27.22 | jbevren | block sequential test now |
| 22:27.25 | flyback | just simple how to remove chips without breaking etc |
| 22:27.37 | flyback | what stuff is worth saving to sell to bgmicro etc |
| 22:27.54 | flyback | he already sells to recyclers but most of them are just raw ore guys |
| 22:27.58 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:27.58 | flyback | so a lot of value is waster |
| 22:28.01 | flyback | d |
| 22:28.06 | jbevren | I had a friend who would heat the boards to 250f in his oven |
| 22:28.11 | jbevren | and then whack teh board on the edge of a bucket |
| 22:28.18 | flyback | he gets $6/pentiumpro |
| 22:28.19 | jbevren | the SMD's woudl fly off :D |
| 22:28.21 | flyback | for gold |
| 22:28.44 | flyback | ive used a 1000f heatgun before |
| 22:28.50 | flyback | problem is you need to do it outside |
| 22:28.57 | flyback | even if you don't burn anything you still get gassed |
| 22:29.25 | flyback | !convert 85c |
| 22:30.01 | sunrunner20 | the amount of gold on pcbs is utterly insificant |
| 22:30.15 | flyback | well yeah the board itself |
| 22:30.17 | flyback | but not the chips |
| 22:30.23 | flyback | tons of precious metals |
| 22:30.25 | sunrunner20 | chips still don't have that much |
| 22:30.37 | flyback | a bunch of recyclers would beg to differ :P |
| 22:30.54 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:31.00 | jbevren | youre better off recycling microfilm |
| 22:31.00 | sunrunner20 | but they bring in the stuff by the hundreds of tons :p |
| 22:31.02 | jbevren | get silver from that |
| 22:31.25 | flyback | jbevren local guy invented way to recover from xrays |
| 22:31.30 | flyback | $$$$$$$$$$ |
| 22:32.07 | jbevren | wonder waht he does with the byproducts |
| 22:32.17 | jbevren | thats my big thing.. disposal of byproducts |
| 22:32.18 | flyback | there are ways to deal with those |
| 22:32.23 | flyback | responsibally |
| 22:32.28 | flyback | eys my brain is fried now |
| 22:32.30 | flyback | can't spell anymore |
| 22:32.59 | flyback | I think bioremedation is going to resolve a lot of the problems from dumping in the past |
| 22:33.04 | flyback | I really do it makes so much sense |
| 22:33.17 | flyback | unlike justa chemical wash |
| 22:33.28 | flyback | the bacteria is going to keep burrowing thru the soil to find every last drop |
| 22:33.31 | flyback | cause it's food! |
| 22:33.36 | flyback | DUAH! |
| 22:33.53 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:33.59 | jbevren | every one of my pc100 128's is doublesided |
| 22:34.06 | flyback | jbe |
| 22:34.10 | flyback | those are the most valiable |
| 22:34.13 | flyback | resale wise |
| 22:34.24 | jbevren | flyback: You know, they had an aphid problem in georgia |
| 22:34.26 | flyback | you could see a few make $$$$ and buy several cheaper high density modules that the dht can use |
| 22:34.35 | jbevren | so they thought 'we will release japanese beetles to eat em' |
| 22:34.36 | flyback | they used ladybugs right? |
| 22:34.43 | jbevren | a number of years later, they swarm around my house |
| 22:34.50 | flyback | not the same thing bro |
| 22:34.50 | jbevren | like flies on a dead raccoon |
| 22:34.54 | jbevren | I'm not joking |
| 22:35.01 | jbevren | you cant smash em cause they stink |
| 22:35.01 | flyback | the bacteria die off when there isn't any pollution left |
| 22:35.09 | flyback | I used to smash them all the time here |
| 22:35.12 | jbevren | yeah they thought this about the beetles |
| 22:35.14 | flyback | now they are all gone |
| 22:35.19 | flyback | nature rebalanced itself |
| 22:35.23 | jbevren | not here |
| 22:35.27 | flyback | i'll take my chances |
| 22:35.29 | jbevren | they swarm in the spring, then go hide in the fields |
| 22:35.35 | jbevren | in the fall, they come back and swarm again |
| 22:35.38 | flyback | it's better than leaving toxic waste in the ground to seep into groundwater |
| 22:35.43 | jbevren | they bite, they smell bad, and they leave yellow spots on the walls |
| 22:35.55 | flyback | besides |
| 22:36.01 | flyback | they already foudn them in the wild in the first place |
| 22:36.05 | flyback | eating this stuff |
| 22:36.06 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:36.10 | flyback | isn't not like it's engineered |
| 22:36.21 | jbevren | GPSFan: block seq test step 53, no errors thus far |
| 22:36.25 | flyback | they only difference is if you add vinegar |
| 22:36.30 | jbevren | flyback: neitehr were these beetles |
| 22:36.56 | flyback | bagh |
| 22:36.56 | flyback | I think you are listening to too much tree hugger crap |
| 22:36.59 | jbevren | nope |
| 22:37.00 | jbevren | I"m not |
| 22:37.02 | jbevren | I live here |
| 22:37.07 | jbevren | I deal with them every spring and every fall |
| 22:37.14 | jbevren | this isnt tree hugger crap |
| 22:37.16 | jbevren | this is real life |
| 22:37.28 | flyback | I don't believe it's the same thing |
| 22:37.37 | jbevren | unintended consequences always happen |
| 22:37.41 | flyback | so what? |
| 22:37.52 | jbevren | so come live here with the biting lady bugs |
| 22:37.56 | jbevren | they dont look like beetles |
| 22:38.15 | jbevren | I have a friend that sucks up a pint in his basement every month |
| 22:38.19 | flyback | all the crops are intacted now though huh? |
| 22:38.37 | jbevren | its not the crops, its the pestilence |
| 22:38.47 | jbevren | there's nothing here that eats or kills em |
| 22:38.52 | jbevren | so theyre like humans |
| 22:38.55 | jbevren | come and destroy |
| 22:39.05 | jbevren | not even wasps will touch em |
| 22:39.21 | jbevren | (trust me, I have wasps and have watched them ignore the lady bugs) |
| 22:39.29 | jbevren | they eat the other bugs though (pets wasp) |
| 22:39.30 | flyback | whoa |
| 22:39.42 | flyback | yeah I hate wasps cause they scare me |
| 22:39.45 | jbevren | nod |
| 22:39.48 | flyback | but they do slagther a ton of pests |
| 22:39.49 | jbevren | they can be uneasing |
| 22:39.50 | flyback | which is cool |
| 22:39.56 | flyback | they rape tomato worms |
| 22:39.58 | jbevren | took me ages to learn how to deal wtih em |
| 22:40.06 | flyback | if they don't get in myf ace |
| 22:40.09 | flyback | I am ok now watching them |
| 22:40.11 | jbevren | I was traumatized as a child |
| 22:40.13 | flyback | me too |
| 22:40.16 | jbevren | got stung by a swarm about 30 times |
| 22:40.23 | flyback | never had it that bad |
| 22:40.25 | flyback | but ouch |
| 22:40.34 | flyback | were they wasps |
| 22:40.34 | jbevren | I lost the use of my right arm for a week |
| 22:40.35 | flyback | or bees |
| 22:40.35 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:40.37 | jbevren | wasps |
| 22:40.41 | jbevren | long, narrow |
| 22:40.44 | flyback | yeah they don't lose their stingers either |
| 22:40.45 | jbevren | I can tell a vespid from a bee |
| 22:40.53 | flyback | bees are cool |
| 22:40.58 | jbevren | and bees wont make me sick like wasps do |
| 22:41.02 | flyback | you really really have to fuck with a bee |
| 22:41.04 | flyback | to get it to sting |
| 22:41.10 | jbevren | well same with a wasp actually |
| 22:41.15 | jbevren | theyre pretty docile |
| 22:41.30 | flyback | na I seen wasps/yellowjackets/hornets get pissed for no reason |
| 22:41.41 | jbevren | you were probably too close to their nest |
| 22:41.48 | flyback | no not even a nest |
| 22:41.53 | jbevren | and yellowjackets only get pissed when they get lost in your pocket |
| 22:42.08 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:42.26 | flyback | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioremediation |
| 22:42.28 | flyback | ah that's cool too |
| 22:42.35 | flyback | use plants to suck out mercury, lead etc |
| 22:42.41 | jbevren | cool |
| 22:42.43 | flyback | then just burn the plants and collect the metal residue |
| 22:42.52 | jbevren | nod, smelt the plants |
| 22:43.02 | flyback | in a controlled incinerator of course |
| 22:43.05 | jbevren | now if they can figure out how to put out the coal seam in pennsylvania |
| 22:43.06 | jbevren | we'll be set |
| 22:43.07 | flyback | else you just throw it into the air |
| 22:43.19 | flyback | hehe yeah i discovered centralia about 1-2 yrs ago |
| 22:43.22 | flyback | I was like WTF? |
| 22:43.24 | flyback | when I saw that on the net |
| 22:43.31 | jbevren | I had a chance to visit |
| 22:43.34 | flyback | it's a shame nukes are so toxic |
| 22:43.37 | jbevren | its spooky enough in pictures |
| 22:43.38 | flyback | it woul be perfect |
| 22:43.44 | jbevren | they tried dynamite to blow the fire out |
| 22:43.55 | flyback | it would vaporize an area and the blast wave would probably blow the rest out |
| 22:44.26 | flyback | we don't have any real fusion bombs or that would p[robably work |
| 22:44.43 | flyback | all our fusion bombs use a fission reaction to get started so they shit out nasty stuff |
| 22:45.15 | jbevren | ndo |
| 22:45.17 | jbevren | shrug |
| 22:45.35 | flyback | be neat if we had a bomb that was a implosion |
| 22:45.40 | jbevren | I just like the city's notion |
| 22:45.52 | flyback | I guess that's how the nova bombs work on the sci fi series andromeda |
| 22:45.54 | jbevren | here, lets burn this trash in this pit where tehre's a coal seam nearby |
| 22:46.01 | flyback | yeah stupid canucks |
| 22:46.19 | flyback | actually canadians are smarter than this |
| 22:46.19 | flyback | :P |
| 22:47.18 | flyback | whoa |
| 22:47.23 | flyback | sunflowers suck up uranium |
| 22:47.28 | jbevren | cool |
| 22:47.43 | flyback | Examples of Phytoextraction from Soils: |
| 22:47.43 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.43 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.43 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.45 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.48 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.07 | jbevren | ok I'm going to assume teh ram passes :) |
| 22:49.26 | jbevren | and here I was reluctant to waste 128M of ram :) |
| 22:51.46 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:51.48 | jbevren | 4 pc100 dims |
| 22:51.49 | jbevren | 4 fail |
| 22:53.10 | flyback | "One species, a pigweed called Amaranthus retroflexus, was up to 40 times more effective than others tested in removing radiocesium from soil. We were able to remove 3 percent of the total amount in just one 3-month growing season," says Kochian. "With two or three yearly crops, the plant could clean up the contaminated site in less than 15 years." |
| 22:53.11 | flyback | whoa |
| 22:53.18 | flyback | OWNS YOUR *CANUCK* |
| 22:53.30 | flyback | I guess ceisum is one of the worst for humans and animals |
| 22:57.01 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:57.06 | jbevren | you cant kill pigweed |
| 22:57.09 | jbevren | just leave it at that :) |
| 22:57.17 | jbevren | that crap could probably grow on glass |
| 22:57.18 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:57.33 | flyback | well mabye that annoying plant as a use after all |
| 22:57.47 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:57.49 | jbevren | every plant has a use |
| 22:58.15 | jbevren | hm 6pm |
| 22:59.05 | jbevren | still cant find my usb card. grumble |
| 23:02.02 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 23:02.03 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 23:02.10 | sunrunner20 | plans produce oxygen |
| 23:02.13 | sunrunner20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.15 | sunrunner20 | sadf |
| 23:02.17 | sunrunner20 | o.0 |
| 23:02.19 | sunrunner20 | d |
| 23:02.22 | sunrunner20 | ok |
| 23:02.26 | sunrunner20 | o.9 |
| 23:02.28 | sunrunner20 | ahh |
| 23:02.31 | sunrunner20 | wtf |
| 23:02.35 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 23:02.40 | sunrunner20 | i guess it ends at the message |
| 23:02.41 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 23:04.01 | flyback | YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, Wyo. — A woman lost her footing after stepping over a retaining wall to take a photograph and went over a cliff, falling 500 feet to her death in a canyon, park officials said. <---- YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE MORON! |
| 23:04.35 | prpplague | flyback: d00d |
| 23:04.41 | flyback | yeah? |
| 23:05.05 | prpplague | flyback: last last last warning, caps and off topic news posts |
| 23:05.20 | flyback | ok :P |
| 23:05.59 | flyback | never cieses to amaze me how stupid people can be :) |
| 23:06.46 | prpplague | yep |
| 23:06.53 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 23:07.04 | sunrunner20 | http://www.checkpointsystems.com/default.aspx?page=electrohardware |
| 23:07.07 | sunrunner20 | bottom right |
| 23:07.13 | sunrunner20 | "blends in with the library enviroment" |
| 23:07.14 | sunrunner20 | aka |
| 23:07.15 | flyback | I mean come on |
| 23:07.20 | sunrunner20 | they are EXPECTED to be their these days |
| 23:07.22 | flyback | you people know how f***ed in the head I am |
| 23:07.28 | flyback | but it still dawns on me |
| 23:07.33 | flyback | "ok wall here, this means bad" |
| 23:07.41 | jbevren | flyback: We get it :) |
| 23:11.42 | jbevren | like this guy that asked if his pc had to be on for his backup software to work |
| 23:12.27 | jbevren | :) |
| 23:12.56 | prpplague | jbevren: or "why do i need m$ windows when all i want to use is excel" |
| 23:13.15 | jbevren | haha yep |
| 23:13.17 | sunrunner20 | prpplague: thats not so obvious |
| 23:13.26 | sunrunner20 | and the answer is... you don't |
| 23:13.40 | sunrunner20 | wine+office :) |
| 23:13.43 | jbevren | ok can we PLEASE allow wget to download from the wiki? |
| 23:13.58 | sunrunner20 | tell wget to emulate a diff client |
| 23:14.04 | sunrunner20 | :) |
| 23:14.05 | prpplague | jbevren: what are you wanting to get? |
| 23:14.21 | jbevren | that depends on teh day, but at least once a week I get forbidden for no good reason :) |
| 23:14.26 | jbevren | atm its the ppc405 gpio goodies |
| 23:18.10 | prpplague | jbevren: that seems odd |
| 23:18.24 | prpplague | jbevren: you have an example url? |
| 23:18.54 | flyback | hey did you guys find anything out about that pixter knock off |
| 23:19.44 | jbevren | --18:19:30-- http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-WalnutGPIO?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ppc405_gpio.tar.gz |
| 23:19.46 | jbevren | forbidden |
| 23:19.49 | jbevren | works fine in mozilla |
| 23:19.52 | jbevren | 403 in wget |
| 23:20.36 | prpplague | jbevren: you are trying to get just the file or everything on the page? |
| 23:21.13 | jbevren | the file |
| 23:21.22 | jbevren | thats a link as copied from the wiki page |
| 23:22.25 | prpplague | yea checking |
| 23:22.52 | jbevren | :) |
| 23:26.13 | prpplague | jbevren: wget http://www.elinux.org/wiki/DHT-WalnutGPIO/attachments/ppc405_gpio.tar.gz |
| 23:26.19 | prpplague | jbevren: thats how you get those |
| 23:26.28 | prpplague | jbevren: just specific it in the attachments directory |
| 23:30.59 | jbevren | ah |
| 23:31.03 | jbevren | so theyre all under /attachments/? |
| 23:31.32 | prpplague | yea |
| 23:31.41 | jbevren | ah thanks :D |
| 23:32.07 | jbevren | It's nice to see that the keyboard works in the 2.6 fbconsole |
| 23:32.12 | prpplague | i have sooo much work to do tomorrow |
| 23:32.28 | prpplague | jbevren: it didn't before? |
| 23:33.00 | jbevren | prpplague: in linux 2.4, no |
| 23:33.04 | jbevren | there was no keymap |
| 23:33.09 | prpplague | uh yesterdays dr.who was terrible |
| 23:33.31 | jbevren | I finally stepped up to uboot and the 2.6 kernel on the wiki to see how well it works |
| 23:33.33 | prpplague | jbevren: ahh |
| 23:33.42 | prpplague | jbevren: ahh |
| 23:33.53 | jbevren | so the kbd worked in X without problems |
| 23:34.01 | jbevren | but it didnt work on TTYs |
| 23:37.18 | prpplague | keyboard under 2.6 is a little different |
| 23:38.39 | prpplague | jbevren: i have a serious problem with getting side tracked on projects that don't advance my knowledge into newer embedded designs |
| 23:39.31 | jbevren | prpplague: nod |
| 23:39.45 | jbevren | I'm intimidated by the cpu in the leapster being different |
| 23:39.49 | prpplague | i'm totally fascinated with the old msx systems |
| 23:39.52 | jbevren | oh btw, leapfrog makes this other device I mentioned |
| 23:40.02 | jbevren | its called the i-quest |
| 23:40.05 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 23:40.10 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe, i have one |
| 23:40.13 | jbevren | ahh |
| 23:40.17 | jbevren | whats it made of? :D |
| 23:40.25 | prpplague | hehe, CoB |
| 23:40.31 | prpplague | real POS design |
| 23:40.38 | prpplague | the case and all is nice |
| 23:40.40 | jbevren | no debug port? hehe |
| 23:40.47 | prpplague | but the electronics are horrible |
| 23:41.43 | prpplague | i've pretty much dismissed doing anything with leapster |
| 23:41.53 | prpplague | or leap frog products in genera; |
| 23:42.27 | prpplague | there is a find line between products that have a good hack value and those that don't |
| 23:42.40 | prpplague | imho, leap frog products just don't qualify |
| 23:42.50 | jbevren | nod |
| 23:42.55 | jbevren | and judging by reviews of the disny thing |
| 23:42.59 | jbevren | it'd be worthless to try |
| 23:43.20 | prpplague | yea, i'd like to know whats in their anyway |
| 23:43.26 | prpplague | might have some useful parts |
| 23:43.33 | prpplague | i.e. flash and ram |
| 23:44.25 | jbevren | ndo |
| 23:44.31 | jbevren | so get one :D |
| 23:46.46 | prpplague | already ordered two |
| 23:46.52 | jbevren | hehe |
| 23:49.17 | flyback | <flyback-> damn |
| 23:49.17 | flyback | [19:48] <flyback-> double whammy |
| 23:49.17 | flyback | [19:48] <flyback-> my dad alway watched the dvd I bought him and I think he got chocked up |
| 23:49.17 | flyback | [19:48] <flyback-> :D |
| 23:52.20 | jbevren | yawn |
| 23:52.31 | flyback | I got him frequency |
| 23:52.35 | flyback | good movie |
| 23:52.43 | jbevren | I wonder if fbset can be coaxed into using composite sync |
| 23:52.53 | jbevren | I could use this on my old digital fixed-freq monitor if so |
| 23:52.54 | jbevren | teehee |
| 23:57.06 | flyback | what if you hack to the rom to reprogram the video card |
