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| 01:29.37 | prpplague | "The CerfBoard 270 with Display for Linux is available now, direct from Intrinsyc's webstore, priced at $1,400, including a 6V power supply, cabling, and an ESD wrist strap. " |
| 01:29.41 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 01:29.45 | prpplague | who are they kidding |
| 01:29.56 | prpplague | i don't see how they sell a single one of those |
| 01:31.19 | T0mW | prpplague: just took a 12 mile drive from town, I logged 56 seperate wifi MACs |
| 01:32.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: Intrinsic is "very" coin operated. I have a cerfcube that I got many years ago for a project. I regretted the "closedness" of their opensource kernel implementation. |
| 01:34.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea |
| 01:34.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: i have a bitsyx board |
| 01:34.37 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 01:34.54 | T0mW | prpplague: most are not encrypted |
| 01:34.58 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:35.17 | prpplague | T0mW: there are a ton of hot spots here on the island |
| 01:35.20 | prpplague | lots of hotels |
| 01:35.46 | prpplague | funny there are lots of tourists that check their bank accounts using open wifi connections |
| 01:36.18 | T0mW | of the 56 MACs, I got 41 uniq ESSIDs. Lot of "default" and "linksys" out there |
| 01:36.21 | T0mW | idiots |
| 01:36.30 | prpplague | hehe yea |
| 01:36.58 | T0mW | wonder if I can connect using a MAC instead of ESSID with wirelesstools? |
| 01:37.03 | prpplague | T0mW: real happy with my solder job today |
| 01:37.12 | prpplague | T0mW: can;t wait to get my proto boards |
| 01:37.24 | T0mW | prpplague: practice, practice, practice |
| 01:38.01 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, i'm pretty sure i can do the tsop48 with .5mm |
| 01:38.39 | prpplague | just wish getting those proto boards didn't take soooooo looooooong |
| 01:38.43 | T0mW | I can see a perl script in my future: iwlist available ESSIDs, then going from best to worst signal, connect attempt to each in turn until successful |
| 01:39.13 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:39.36 | T0mW | right after I fold the zipit utils into the build |
| 01:40.10 | T0mW | I'm wondering how you build dynamiclly linked apps in buildroot / uClibc |
| 01:43.27 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 01:44.00 | agaffney | I've been putting it off for a week |
| 01:44.05 | prpplague | T0mW: still can't decide on how far to upgrade the pixtermm |
| 01:44.09 | agaffney | since it's my only router |
| 01:44.13 | prpplague | agaffney: fun fun |
| 01:51.50 | agaffney | I've got one of the nice models |
| 01:51.52 | agaffney | 54GS 1.1 |
| 01:51.59 | agaffney | 32MB memory and 8MB flash |
| 01:52.11 | chouimat | agaffney: I put dd-wrt v24 on mine this morning |
| 01:52.41 | jbevren | I give up on LiRC |
| 01:52.42 | agaffney | what's the real difference between openwrt and dd-wrt? |
| 01:52.56 | jbevren | agaffney: frontend maybe? |
| 01:52.58 | agaffney | jbevren: lirc...as in the IR stuff? |
| 01:53.07 | jbevren | agaffney: yeah |
| 01:53.11 | chouimat | dd-wrt can use openwrt package and being user-friendlier than openwrt |
| 01:53.13 | jbevren | trying to get it to work with my wintv PVR |
| 01:53.26 | agaffney | jbevren: lirc is a royal pita |
| 01:53.34 | agaffney | I tried getting it working with my TP 770 a few years back |
| 01:53.36 | jbevren | I used to use it with a serial port reciever |
| 01:53.38 | agaffney | I had it working at one point |
| 01:53.46 | agaffney | it could receive TV remote codes |
| 01:53.50 | agaffney | and even send recorded ones |
| 01:53.54 | agaffney | and then it stopped working |
| 01:53.57 | agaffney | and I never got it working again |
| 01:54.00 | jbevren | I need both |
| 01:54.04 | agaffney | and it took me a week to get it working the first time |
| 01:54.05 | jbevren | recieve to learn the cable box's remote |
| 01:54.07 | jbevren | send to control it |
| 01:54.19 | agaffney | mine was more of a pita because of the hardware |
| 01:54.50 | agaffney | the TP shares a COM port between the actual COM port and the IR |
| 01:55.01 | agaffney | and the IR has multiple modes |
| 01:55.05 | agaffney | none of which work :P |
| 01:57.18 | agaffney | chouimat: so....there's no real reason to use openwrt over dd-wrt? |
| 01:58.48 | agaffney | chouimat: I don't see dd-wrt 24...only 23 SP1 |
| 02:01.00 | sunrunner20 | T0mW: as far as i know uclib doesn't support dynamic... |
| 02:01.24 | sunrunner20 | then again |
| 02:01.26 | sunrunner20 | i dont' know jack :p |
| 02:02.22 | CP|Home | sure uclibc supports dynamic libraries |
| 02:02.25 | CP|Home | what a crazy qestion |
| 02:02.26 | T0mW | sunrunner20: yeah, there is apps that do: hdparm & wirelessapps are dynamically linked. I'll use one of their makefiles as a starting point |
| 02:02.46 | CP|Home | T0mW: you're wondering how to do it without bulding an x-compiler, aren't you? |
| 02:03.11 | T0mW | been so long that I cared if a linux host app I wrote was static or dynamic linked... heh |
| 02:03.47 | jbevren | I use dynamic uclibc on my zipit |
| 02:03.49 | jbevren | :P |
| 02:03.57 | T0mW | CP|Home: I'm inside a buildroot environ, just have to figure out how to "co-operate" when writing my Makefiles |
| 02:04.21 | CP|Home | iirc, and I might be wrong, but you should just let buildroot do the work |
| 02:04.29 | CP|Home | it will give you the right CFLAGS and LDFLAGs |
| 02:05.53 | prpplague | CP|Home: well after a 15 year wait, i finaly watched all of neverwhere |
| 02:06.05 | CP|Home | good for you |
| 02:06.08 | CP|Home | was it worth it? |
| 02:06.55 | prpplague | oh yea |
| 02:07.00 | prpplague | i really liked it |
| 02:07.19 | prpplague | i saw one episode 15 years ago, been looking for it ever since |
| 02:07.26 | chouimat | agaffney: unstable directory |
| 02:07.29 | prpplague | just came available on dvd last month |
| 02:07.52 | agaffney | chouimat: after looking at dd-wrt a bit, I still think I'll try openwrt first |
| 02:13.03 | prpplague | hehe |
| 02:13.19 | agaffney | that was my old router, but it would reset when downloading lots of stuff |
| 02:13.28 | agaffney | works great as a switch/WAP, though |
| 02:13.29 | jbevren | agaffney: update its firmware |
| 02:13.37 | jbevren | my 604 had the same issue |
| 02:13.38 | agaffney | jbevren: I tried all sorts of firmware updates |
| 02:13.46 | agaffney | I haven't used it as a router in 2-3 years |
| 02:13.53 | agaffney | is there a newer firmware that fixes that? |
| 02:13.59 | jbevren | quite possible |
| 02:14.02 | agaffney | hmm |
| 02:14.11 | jbevren | me, I just want to hack it, but its a stinking marvell :) |
| 02:16.43 | jbevren | I concede |
| 02:16.46 | jbevren | out for the night :) |
| 02:17.18 | prpplague | have you found any other dev boards besides the logic pd stuff, that uses the sharp lh79524/25 ? |
| 02:18.54 | T0mW | hmm, I see I'm going to have to rewrite the zipit utils as one source and then check argv[0] to see which util thread to invoke, similiar to busybox, wirelessutils, etc. Then symlink |
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| 02:39.34 | agaffney | hmm, well that was kinda easy |
| 02:39.54 | agaffney | Linux OpenWrt 2.4.30 #1 Sun Mar 26 19:02:04 CEST 2006 mips unknown |
| 02:40.09 | agaffney | it grabbed my pppoe settings I had before |
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| 02:44.49 | agaffney | now I need to setup ddclient |
| 02:45.00 | agaffney | the stock firmware updated my dyndns address |
| 02:53.09 | agaffney | is there a "simple" text editor (like pico/nano) in openwrt? |
| 02:53.30 | prpplague | agaffney: probably busybox vi is on their |
| 02:54.16 | agaffney | bah, I don't know vi |
| 02:54.25 | agaffney | anyone got a good link to a "vi for dummies" page? |
| 02:54.38 | agaffney | I've been meaning to learn it...now is as good of a time as any :) |
| 02:54.41 | prpplague | jbevren: did you ever wonder why mattel went with the lh79524 instead of the lh79520? |
| 02:54.58 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe |
| 02:55.36 | prpplague | agaffney: http://www.zippydesign.com/ying/linux/vi/vi-reference.pdf |
| 02:55.45 | agaffney | ewwww.....pdf |
| 02:55.58 | agaffney | anything that isn't pdf? :P |
| 02:56.11 | prpplague | whats wrong with pdf? |
| 02:56.31 | *** topic/#edev by prpplague -> #edev discussion for small embedded device development and hacking || http://www.elinux.org/wiki/ || http://www.hackaday.com || http://www.linux-hacker.net || I HATE INS AND DoHS every day and twice on sunday |
| 02:56.37 | prpplague | http://www.zippydesign.com/ying/linux/vi/vi-reference.ps |
| 02:56.54 | agaffney | pfft |
| 02:57.19 | prpplague | agaffney: whats wrong with the pdf? |
| 02:57.29 | agaffney | acroread is a bloated POS |
| 02:57.39 | prpplague | why use acroread? |
| 02:58.04 | agaffney | eww, nm...that drags in half of gnome |
| 02:58.24 | prpplague | whats wrong with xpdf? |
| 02:58.58 | agaffney | nothing...I just have to install it :) |
| 02:59.51 | prpplague | how do you read datasheets without a good pdf viewer? |
| 03:00.23 | agaffney | I don't :P |
| 03:00.41 | prpplague | agaffney: oh |
| 03:00.48 | agaffney | I don't do a lot of hardware hacking |
| 03:00.50 | CP|Home | ew |
| 03:00.55 | agaffney | so no need for datasheets |
| 03:01.06 | CP|Home | software still needs datasheets |
| 03:01.08 | prpplague | agaffney: software? |
| 03:01.26 | agaffney | I don't do much hacking at all :) |
| 03:01.40 | agaffney | I'm really just here because I got a couple of walnut boards |
| 03:01.45 | agaffney | and I've just hung around :) |
| 03:02.02 | prpplague | ahh |
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| 03:10.53 | [g2] | are there many/any ZipIt devs in here ? |
| 03:12.19 | FireEgl | There's a few.. Did you have any specific questions? =) |
| 03:12.28 | prpplague | [g2]: GPSFan and T0mW both are here |
| 03:13.15 | [g2] | FireEgl I'm curious about the state of the development environment and if anybody ever got audio working |
| 03:13.55 | [g2] | basically, I'd like to repurpose the device to be a simple audio streamer |
| 03:14.29 | prpplague | [g2]: T0mW has been working on adding the entire build into buildroot |
| 03:14.41 | prpplague | [g2]: iirc he's made alot of progress |
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| 03:15.04 | T0mW | [g2]: I haven't messed with the audio yet to see if it is working |
| 03:15.13 | CP|Home | arg - ati sucks |
| 03:15.17 | FireEgl | Yah, audio works.. I can do 56kbit streams on mine just fine. =) It can prolly do like 64kbit. |
| 03:15.30 | T0mW | [g2]: the buildroot stuff will be out in a few days(tm) |
| 03:16.00 | [g2] | T0mW you probably don't use OE much |
| 03:16.15 | prpplague | hehe |
| 03:16.18 | [g2] | I'd probably tweak OE to build flashable images |
| 03:16.20 | CP|Home | or at all |
| 03:16.57 | prpplague | [g2]: i think CP|Home is the only one who uses OE here, the rest use buildroot |
| 03:17.15 | [g2] | that said, having a buildroot environment is an awesome step |
| 03:17.51 | T0mW | [g2]: is OE the one that use bitkeeper instead of SVN or CVS? |
| 03:17.54 | prpplague | yea, it will be a simple matter for someone who does OE to collect the info from buildroot |
| 03:18.10 | prpplague | T0mW: used to be, now its monotone |
| 03:18.13 | [g2] | T0mW that was about a year ago |
| 03:18.30 | [g2] | heh.. literally a year ago |
| 03:18.35 | T0mW | I've code to write, not learn new version control systems |
| 03:18.56 | [g2] | T0mW I've got a Ubuntu Livecd that can run everything |
| 03:19.32 | [g2] | it can build flashable images for the nslu2-linux project and openezx |
| 03:19.35 | CP|Home | if copying to a 5.25 floppy is good for Tom, its good for everybody, dangnabit |
| 03:19.58 | [g2] | and the ep93xx stuff too but I digress |
| 03:20.04 | CP|Home | and geode |
| 03:20.07 | CP|Home | don't forget geode |
| 03:20.11 | prpplague | hehe |
| 03:20.20 | [g2] | geode is dead :) |
| 03:20.33 | CP|Home | not until Wednesday |
| 03:20.35 | [g2] | didn't they sell that divsion off ? :) |
| 03:20.39 | prpplague | alchemy |
| 03:20.45 | prpplague | they sold alchemy |
| 03:22.51 | CP|Home | pretty soon every child in the world is going to have an Geode |
| 03:24.44 | T0mW | whew! buildroot can get into some serious looping probs if the target isn't made |
| 03:30.01 | CP|Home | I wonder if I would be able to get my laptop back together if I took it apart to clean it |
| 03:30.04 | CP|Home | the fan is sounding aweful |
| 03:30.08 | CP|Home | awful even |
| 03:38.56 | CP|Home | incredible rain storm outside |
| 03:39.41 | [g2] | better outside than in I always say :) |
| 03:40.59 | CP|Home | This is the first time in the the 3 years that I have had satellite TV that it has been raining hard enough to knock it out |
| 03:47.25 | CP|Home | wow |
| 03:47.39 | CP|Home | its going to be bad up in the mountains - it rained for two days and now this downpour |
| 03:49.36 | CP|Home | http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4029325# |
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| 13:25.23 | jbevren | yawn. |
| 13:40.00 | prpplague | jbevren: morning |
| 13:40.23 | prpplague | hmm |
| 13:40.23 | prpplague | boss wants a ram test application for our bootloader |
| 13:40.41 | prpplague | if we run a full 0xaa 0x55 test , it will take a full 5minutes to complete |
| 13:40.48 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:40.52 | prpplague | chouimat: morning |
| 14:06.20 | jbevren | prpplague: borrow the memtest code from uboot maybe? |
| 14:08.52 | prpplague | jbevren: how quickly does that run? |
| 14:09.09 | jbevren | its not bad running 128M on a ppc/250mhz |
| 14:09.18 | jbevren | about 2 minutes for the basic check |
| 14:09.45 | T0mW | buildroot-zipit is done |
| 14:10.03 | prpplague | jbevren: hmm |
| 14:10.14 | prpplague | jbevren: thats a full check? |
| 14:13.54 | prpplague | jbevren: ahh, the test only runs on 4kb on each 1mb boundry |
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| 14:17.30 | T0mW | prpplague: sounds like a blob ramtest |
| 14:19.39 | jbevren | the ppcboot image on my A3000 has a quick test that only tkaes a couple minutes, and one that takes around 5 |
| 14:19.40 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:25.18 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, it has two modes, one that checks it all, and one that does the 4kb boundry |
| 14:25.26 | prpplague | jbevren: i'm going with the 4k boundry |
| 14:25.38 | prpplague | jbevren: that should allow me to do the check in less that one minute |
| 14:26.17 | prpplague | jbevren: 4 patterns(0x00,0xff,0xaa,0x55) takes about 5 seconds |
| 14:26.39 | prpplague | hmm |
| 14:26.47 | prpplague | that would be about 2.5 minutes |
| 14:30.29 | prpplague | hmm, takes about 1 second |
| 14:30.51 | prpplague | 2 at the max, so 32 * 2 = 64 |
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| 14:47.48 | [g2] | T0mW congrats on the buildroot for zipit |
| 14:48.00 | [g2] | where might one find that ? :) |
| 14:48.10 | T0mW | [g2]: email? |
| 14:50.28 | [g2] | T0mW did you get that pm ? |
| 14:50.49 | FireEgl | T0mW: I was hoping that you or somebody would put the zipit buildroot in like a CVS or something.. Something to make it easier for us all to work together to improve the buildroot. |
| 14:51.20 | T0mW | FireEgl: buildroot is hopeless |
| 14:51.29 | prpplague | T0mW: ?? |
| 14:51.43 | T0mW | prpplague: the entanglement of the targets |
| 14:51.44 | prpplague | T0mW: why is that? |
| 14:51.50 | T0mW | boards vs filesystems |
| 14:52.02 | prpplague | T0mW: odd, i've never had any issues |
| 14:53.03 | T0mW | I finally pulled the boards (devices) out of the targets. The ext2root was running before the linux kernel build. the latest kernel modules where not making it in the the root image (time lag) |
| 14:53.32 | T0mW | then, created a seperate target $(FILESYSTEMS_TARGET) |
| 14:53.49 | prpplague | T0mW: why didn't you just just add a dependency? |
| 14:54.24 | FireEgl | T0mW: I'm just saying us ZipIt people need to work together.. Not just you release a zipit buildroot that a dozen of us base our own buildroots on.. but one that we ALL work on, together. |
| 14:54.36 | T0mW | but, that would mean putting the dependancy inside the target filesystem makefile |
| 14:54.54 | T0mW | FireEgl: I am, just not today. |
| 14:55.16 | prpplague | T0mW: no, just add it to your linux kernel .mk file |
| 14:55.17 | T0mW | FireEgl: you want a pre-release of it? |
| 14:55.41 | T0mW | prpplague: I tried that, but gave up after several hours. I couldn't figure it out. |
| 14:55.59 | prpplague | hmm |
| 14:56.01 | FireEgl | T0mW: Sure.. Want my email address to send it? |
| 14:56.09 | T0mW | FireEgl: fire away |
| 14:56.28 | prpplague | T0mW: i build about 10 different items with buildroot, never had that problem |
| 14:57.07 | prpplague | T0mW: sounds like we need to do some fixups |
| 14:57.40 | T0mW | prpplague: do you install kernel modules into the file system image? |
| 14:58.34 | CosmicPenguin | where else would they go? |
| 14:58.40 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 14:58.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, meaning a monolithic kernel, hehe |
| 14:59.17 | T0mW | prpplague: dave, all you have to do is break the file targets (ext2 tar cramfs) out or $(TARGETS), give them a new one e.g. $(FILEIMAGE_TARGETS) and add it to the end of the world: make |
| 14:59.31 | T0mW | prpplague: then nobody needs the dependancies |
| 15:00.23 | T0mW | anytime you change the internals of build-dir/root you just touch build-dir/.root00000 or whatever to force the filesystem to rebuild |
| 15:00.54 | T0mW | then it is simple, all you need add is a touch to any makefile |
| 15:01.11 | prpplague | T0mW: well, generate a patch, and let me have look |
| 15:02.12 | [g2] | T0mW do you have an MD5/SHA1 on the buildroot ? |
| 15:02.29 | T0mW | [g2]: wait 1 |
| 15:02.56 | T0mW | dc499d5e78335ad70c7e7b9d877cb25e buildroot-zipit.tar.bz2 |
| 15:03.05 | [g2] | ack thx |
| 15:03.17 | T0mW | [g2]: it builds as a user, not as root |
| 15:03.28 | [g2] | nod as all buildroots do :) |
| 15:03.32 | T0mW | heh |
| 15:03.38 | [g2] | and all of OE |
| 15:05.37 | [g2] | T0mW what are you using for JTAG ? |
| 15:06.30 | T0mW | I took my zipit into town last night, a 12 mile ride and it heard 56 uique MACs, with 41 unique ESSIDs, most of them were not encrypted. |
| 15:06.39 | T0mW | [g2]: bdi2000 |
| 15:07.06 | [g2] | cool ! do you have a scope/logic analyzer ? |
| 15:07.31 | T0mW | I have a 100MHz scope, beat up, second/third hand, but it works, heh |
| 15:07.57 | T0mW | and, an old HP frequency counter |
| 15:08.23 | [g2] | cool. what part of the world to you reside in ? |
| 15:08.41 | T0mW | NorthEastern Pennsylvania |
| 15:08.56 | T0mW | NorthEastern Pennsyl-tucky |
| 15:09.05 | [g2] | coal country :) |
| 15:09.25 | [g2] | I hope you weren't too affected by the rain a couple weeks ago |
| 15:09.29 | T0mW | [g2]: yeah, the land of the sinkholes |
| 15:10.13 | T0mW | [g2]: me, naw, I live about 700ft above sea level here, about 400ft above the valley floor |
| 15:10.22 | [g2] | cool |
| 15:10.33 | T0mW | I like the hill country |
| 15:10.48 | T0mW | hills, not mountains! |
| 15:11.30 | CosmicPenguin | wimp |
| 15:12.10 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: naw, wimpy automobiles |
| 15:12.32 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: I like high gear ratio cars |
| 15:12.46 | T0mW | err, low ratio |
| 15:13.17 | gandhijee | can someone here help me with dropbear PLEASE? |
| 15:13.30 | gandhijee | i've been to every other room and no one is of any help |
| 15:13.37 | CosmicPenguin | don't drop the bear, don't drop the bear baby, |
| 15:13.44 | gandhijee | =/ |
| 15:13.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 15:14.19 | chouimat | hmmm OLS is next week? |
| 15:14.28 | CosmicPenguin | beer and canada - a volatile combination |
| 15:14.40 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: hehe :) |
| 15:14.47 | gandhijee | my dropbear won't let me login |
| 15:14.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe yea |
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| 15:19.43 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: btw the current forecast for next monday - tuesday is around 33C (+ heat index) |
| 15:19.56 | CosmicPenguin | ew |
| 15:20.54 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: it's July |
| 15:21.27 | CosmicPenguin | so will it be warm all week |
| 15:21.53 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: so far :) |
| 15:26.31 | T0mW | gandhijee: I haven't made dropbear work yet either. didn't spend much time with it yet. |
| 15:27.17 | T0mW | gandhijee: did you look in the log files to see what dropbear might be complaining about? |
| 15:29.15 | T0mW | hmm, program throws an abort now... |
| 15:37.51 | T0mW | prpplague: heh, and anesthetic |
| 15:44.12 | prpplague | hehe, anyone watched that "davinci coder" video, that is hilarious |
| 15:45.24 | T0mW | prpplague: that was pretty professionally done |
| 15:46.05 | T0mW | prpplague: somebody is making more than $50/hr to work of that type! |
| 15:48.15 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:48.16 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 15:50.09 | chouimat | nteresting www.cvps.com/cowpower/index.shtml |
| 15:51.02 | jbevren | prpplague: ping |
| 15:59.19 | prpplague | jbevren: pong |
| 15:59.47 | jbevren | prpplague: http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/07/nixie_tube_watch.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 |
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| 16:01.49 | prpplague | jbevren: wow, bet that gets hot |
| 16:02.26 | jbevren | nixies arent heated |
| 16:02.31 | jbevren | they ionize gases |
| 16:02.40 | jbevren | that said, the tubes only light up for a few seconds at a time |
| 16:02.51 | jbevren | you shake your wrist, it lights up to display time, and then goes idle again |
| 16:02.56 | jbevren | links are on th epage |
| 16:03.02 | jbevren | apparently it runs ~6 months on a camera battery |
| 16:30.39 | [g2] | Doh just missed him |
| 16:30.49 | [g2] | http://pastebin.ca/85041 |
| 16:32.12 | jbevren | g2: missing consoel support? |
| 16:32.39 | jbevren | the mention of key_maps and keymap_count et.al seem to indicate that you have a keyboard driver enabled, but no console to go with it |
| 16:32.42 | [g2] | jbevren could be :) |
| 16:33.22 | [g2] | jbevren I'm running ubuntu |
| 16:33.25 | [g2] | dapper |
| 16:33.33 | [g2] | well actually this is kubuntu |
| 16:33.36 | jbevren | zipline is the zipit kbd isnt it? |
| 16:41.30 | prpplague | jbevren: ahh, i thought they produced some heat |
| 16:41.50 | jbevren | not likely more than a cold-cathode lamp |
| 16:42.26 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 16:42.39 | prpplague | i need to simulate a sdram failure |
| 16:42.54 | jbevren | disconnect one |
| 16:43.18 | prpplague | jbevren: hmm |
| 16:49.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 16:52.24 | prpplague | hmm, i'm not sure how to effectively simulate failures in the sdram |
| 16:53.12 | CosmicPenguin | pong |
| 16:58.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: do any production memory testing apps? |
| 17:28.07 | prpplague | jbevren: seems several people are interested in using the pixter-mm for a remote |
| 17:30.12 | jbevren | it's a perfect application, really |
| 17:49.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nt me |
| 17:49.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but I would like to |
| 17:51.40 | gandhijee | T0mW: yeah, it used to be about unauthorized user or some crap, but i think i finally got it to work |
| 17:56.06 | gandhijee | write some corrupt info to it? |
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| 18:48.28 | jbevren | lonestar's at it again :) |
| 18:48.29 | jbevren | oops |
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| 20:01.00 | J4k3 | whats the difference between a DoHS employee and a fast-food worker? the fast food worker can get his orders straight. |
| 20:01.09 | J4k3 | (in reference to the topic) |
| 20:01.44 | J4k3 | so I'm trying to build a kernel for my dht-walnut, and keep coming up with a real mess. |
| 20:02.31 | CosmicPenguin | dht-walnut? |
| 20:02.40 | J4k3 | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut |
| 20:02.41 | J4k3 | that thing |
| 20:03.12 | CosmicPenguin | new one to me |
| 20:03.37 | J4k3 | its a neat toy, the provided kernels are working fine, I just can't seem to build my own. |
| 20:04.06 | J4k3 | trying to get the DSCC4 driver on there so I can replace this old cisco |
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| 20:15.22 | agaffney | J4k3: I built a custom kernel for mine many times |
| 20:15.29 | agaffney | just start with the provided .config |
| 20:15.37 | agaffney | assuming they're still on the wiki |
| 20:18.27 | J4k3 | yeah, thats what I did |
| 20:18.36 | J4k3 | trying to do a 2.4 kernel |
| 20:18.49 | J4k3 | should I be using kernel.org source, or is there a special patchset for the ppc? |
| 20:19.20 | J4k3 | pengiunppc.org makes it sound like theres tons of problems building a working kernel off the "kernel.org official code"... |
| 20:23.58 | agaffney | imo, that's less true as of late |
| 20:24.07 | agaffney | and yeah, I think I was using vanilla sources |
| 20:33.34 | J4k3 | yeah, thats what I figured with linus himself being a PPC man |
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| 21:31.55 | jbevren | for anyone admining webservers with mambo |
| 21:32.12 | jbevren | file_upload.php has an exploit (you can specify sbp=http://url/cmd.txt) |
| 21:32.42 | jbevren | version is apparently 1.9 |
| 21:38.16 | flyback | you know that's off topic here |
| 21:38.35 | jbevren | I dont care :) |
| 21:38.49 | jbevren | I do that like once a week |
| 21:40.04 | flyback | i'm just making a point |
| 21:40.07 | flyback | you do what you want |
| 21:41.17 | CosmicPenguin | he announced what he means - he described it, and pointed to it with a URL |
| 21:41.23 | CosmicPenguin | thats how you would call one's attention to the issue |
| 21:41.44 | flyback | I have before and he bitched anyways |
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| 22:16.37 | flyback | t0mw |
| 22:16.45 | flyback | how many of those super cards for webpals did you make |
| 22:16.53 | T0mW | oh, about 18 |
| 22:17.25 | flyback | how much you charging for them? |
| 22:17.49 | T0mW | I couldn't resist, the pcb house had two for one sale, soo.. |
| 22:18.11 | T0mW | $70 installed, plus shipping |
| 22:18.20 | flyback | ugh |
| 22:18.21 | flyback | nm :) |
| 22:18.43 | flyback | I am sure they are worth it but not anytime in my budget for a while :/ |
| 22:19.23 | T0mW | flyback: takes about two hours to do, about an hour of that under the microscope wiring it up. heh |
| 22:20.23 | flyback | "YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!" |
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