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| 01:05.58 | sorphin | anyone awake? heh (preferably that has or has used LCD monitors quite a bit) |
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| 01:32.25 | sorphin | AMDPenguin: you there? |
| 01:41.23 | davidc__ | sorphin: I'ved used them a bit |
| 01:41.50 | davidc__ | sorphin: [I assume you mean used as in hooked them up electrically] |
| 01:52.55 | sorphin | well, yeah |
| 01:52.58 | sorphin | looking at getting one |
| 01:53.04 | sorphin | while tis sitll tax free today |
| 01:53.17 | sorphin | been looking at the contrast ratios, etc |
| 01:54.23 | davidc__ | oh, as in a computer one? |
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| 02:20.59 | sorphin | yes |
| 02:21.06 | sorphin | ooh cool, this lcd can do SOG |
| 02:21.09 | sorphin | my crt can't |
| 02:21.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:45.56 | MonMotha | sorphin: you could always just build a little dongle to rip the sync off the green line... |
| 02:46.04 | MonMotha | just do a DC restore and use a comparator set at 0V |
| 02:46.21 | MonMotha | heck, if the line is DC coupled you can just use the comparator |
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| 03:22.50 | sorphin | MonMotha: uh.. right.. i'll get right on that :P |
| 03:23.11 | jbevren | yawn |
| 03:23.19 | sorphin | MonMotha: after i finish building this hydrogen powered car :P |
| 03:23.28 | sorphin | jbevren: work tickets lackey! |
| 03:23.40 | jbevren | hehe |
| 03:23.42 | MonMotha | sorphin: except it isn't that hard :) |
| 03:23.49 | jbevren | No. I'm not currently within my contracted work hours :) |
| 03:23.59 | sorphin | MonMotha: maybe for you |
| 03:24.27 | sorphin | anyways, i bought this lcd: http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/monitor/lcd_digital/ls19mebsbdxaa.asp |
| 03:24.48 | MonMotha | sorphin: well, if you've got a scope, check your SOG signal. See if it's got the DC component |
| 03:25.12 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:25.24 | sorphin | i'll just wait till i pick up the LCD tomorrow :) |
| 03:28.03 | sorphin | Sync. Type / Synchronisation Separate H/V, Composite H/V, SOG |
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| 13:43.51 | jbevren | Good moaning, Dave |
| 13:44.00 | prpplague | jbevren: hey |
| 13:46.31 | jbevren | me too, mostly |
| 13:46.37 | jbevren | just occasional random browsing |
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| 13:49.55 | prpplague | [g2]: morning |
| 13:50.07 | [g2] | prpplague morning :) |
| 13:51.04 | prpplague | [g2]: whats cookin today? |
| 13:51.31 | [g2] | heading out right now, but looking into the minila stuff |
| 13:51.42 | prpplague | ahh |
| 13:51.49 | [g2] | bbiab |
| 13:56.10 | GPSFan | prpplague: hodwy, what's cookin? |
| 13:56.59 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe, ssdd, gotta finish a couple small production apps, this week, we started production of the M5900 last week |
| 13:57.17 | prpplague | ~dict ergot |
| 13:57.49 | GPSFan | prpplague: swell, my trip turned out ok, drank lots of good beers. ;>) |
| 13:58.09 | prpplague | coooool |
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| 14:04.09 | prpplague | davidc__: hey |
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| 14:17.31 | prpplague | btw, the elinux.org wiki has been moved from sf.net |
| 14:17.41 | prpplague | not all the dns records have been updated |
| 14:17.49 | jbevren | cool beans |
| 14:17.55 | prpplague | you can get to the elinux.org pages without the www extension right now |
| 14:18.05 | prpplague | i.e http://elinux.org/wiki/ |
| 14:18.27 | jbevren | its on tom's site? |
| 14:18.37 | jbevren | er, server |
| 14:19.19 | prpplague | tim's server at the house |
| 14:20.05 | jbevren | hm |
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| 14:20.37 | jbevren | the dns zone is messed up |
| 14:20.43 | jbevren | thats why the www cname doesnt work |
| 14:20.48 | jbevren | www.elinux.org. 1800 IN CNAME rikers.org.elinux.org. |
| 14:20.51 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:20.58 | jbevren | might want to fix that |
| 14:21.18 | jbevren | changed on sat |
| 14:21.26 | jbevren | (serialno 2006080500) |
| 14:21.31 | prpplague | ahh, i'll message timmy |
| 14:21.35 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:21.42 | jbevren | he's got a missing . somewhere I think |
| 14:21.48 | jbevren | thats what most of our clients do wrong |
| 14:21.59 | jbevren | you can check with dig @NS.MECWORKS.COM www.elinux.org |
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| 14:23.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning crack baby |
| 14:24.03 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 14:24.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: emulex |
| 14:24.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: heard of them? |
| 14:24.21 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 14:24.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they have some offices in longmont |
| 14:24.35 | jbevren | Ive heard of them |
| 14:24.47 | jbevren | theyre one of the top SAN/RAID brands |
| 14:24.55 | prpplague | http://www.emulex.com/ |
| 14:24.57 | CosmicPenguin | We have lots of storage in the area |
| 14:25.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they do some linux stuff, and rumor has it they have an opening |
| 14:25.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just fyi |
| 14:26.26 | CosmicPenguin | Nothing in longmont, it looks like |
| 14:26.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, from what i heard it hasn't made the jobs page yet |
| 14:27.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: may be just BS, but thought i'd pass it on |
| 14:27.24 | CosmicPenguin | You have an in? Do you know where my resume lives? |
| 14:27.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: naw on both, just a passing mention of it from someone |
| 14:29.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: aren't you at work kinda early? |
| 14:29.40 | CosmicPenguin | not really |
| 14:30.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: isn't it 7:30 there? |
| 14:30.45 | CosmicPenguin | 8:30 |
| 14:30.49 | CosmicPenguin | sounds like you need a new watch |
| 14:31.09 | prpplague | doh, i forget about day light savings time |
| 14:35.32 | jbevren | heeh |
| 14:35.54 | prpplague | i didn't sleep well last night |
| 14:36.15 | prpplague | totally stressed about donna's visa/greencard |
| 14:37.28 | prpplague | supposedly DoHS has approved everything, so its just a matter of waiting on the paperwork to arrive |
| 14:37.50 | prpplague | which means i have to start worrying about getting organized to move back to the states |
| 14:40.29 | jbevren | patience dave-san |
| 14:40.30 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:40.44 | jbevren | it's a serious matter indeed, but worrying while waiting isn't going to change much |
| 14:49.44 | prpplague | yea, just lots to think about |
| 14:55.09 | jbevren | no doubt |
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| 15:48.38 | prpplague | T0mW: hey |
| 15:48.55 | T0mW | prpplague: I only have one thing to say to you today |
| 15:49.04 | T0mW | prpplague: "microSD" |
| 15:49.06 | T0mW | heh |
| 15:49.09 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:49.41 | T0mW | prpplague: I saw one of those things at the local Staples store and it intrigued me. Mouser has sockets for them. |
| 15:51.27 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 15:51.36 | prpplague | T0mW: iirc, sfe has some as well |
| 15:52.12 | prpplague | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=544 |
| 15:52.47 | prpplague | T0mW: amazing the storage capabilities these days |
| 15:54.15 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, I needed more room on the Zipit Addon board, to move all the components to the topside of the PCB. The microSD socket is significantly smaller than the miniSD. |
| 15:54.37 | T0mW | prpplague: about 14mm x 15.2mm |
| 16:28.10 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 16:29.14 | CosmicPenguin | I would have long ago given up and become a burger flipper at McDonalds if it wasn't for quilt |
| 16:29.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 16:31.09 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: McDonalds won't take you now, you are too old to become a mindless drone |
| 16:31.43 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:31.48 | CosmicPenguin | crap |
| 16:32.14 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 16:32.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd just about kill someone to go to a brew pub today |
| 16:33.51 | CosmicPenguin | I had a growler of lefthand milk stout this weekend |
| 16:34.00 | CosmicPenguin | ohhhh - so damn good! |
| 16:34.09 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:34.23 | prpplague | i'd like a nice bottle of ABA |
| 16:34.47 | CosmicPenguin | I had a chocolate molasses stout too |
| 16:34.51 | CosmicPenguin | it was so-so |
| 16:36.12 | prpplague | oh my |
| 16:36.48 | prpplague | interesting sco has a whole set of PR's today - http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SCOX |
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| 17:14.40 | flyback | prpplague |
| 17:14.46 | flyback | are you sure you want to go back |
| 17:14.52 | flyback | with all the bullshit is passing |
| 17:15.00 | flyback | pretty soon it will be ILLEGAL to load linux onto stuff |
| 17:15.32 | flyback | :/ |
| 17:16.06 | prpplague | flyback: yea, well, better than living here, USA might not be perfect, but its better than anything else around |
| 17:17.39 | flyback | I hear that |
| 17:36.34 | CosmicPenguin | where is my chip pullermotron? |
| 17:44.43 | jbevren | prpplague: www.elinux.org is online yay |
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| 17:48.55 | T0mW | I wonder just how I could score a grove into a 0.062" fiberglass PCB so that I can break it cleanly? |
| 17:49.45 | T0mW | only thing I can think of is a carbide tool of some kind |
| 17:50.23 | jbevren | T0mW: Metal straight-edge and a utility knife |
| 17:51.09 | T0mW | I don't know if the utility knife would be enough, I'm afraid the flexible blade would "walk" |
| 17:51.32 | T0mW | only need to grove it about 0.020" on both sides |
| 17:51.47 | jbevren | hm |
| 17:51.51 | jbevren | I use that for doing plastic |
| 17:51.57 | T0mW | me too |
| 17:52.03 | jbevren | you're only removing 20 mills on each side? |
| 17:52.19 | jbevren | s/mills/mils/ |
| 17:52.31 | T0mW | I have a carbide cutting wheel on the dremel, but the dust would not be something I would want floating around. |
| 17:52.53 | jbevren | nod |
| 17:52.57 | jbevren | cut it outside hehe |
| 17:53.04 | T0mW | just a 0.020" grove, a "break" line so that I can snap the board apart. |
| 17:53.28 | jbevren | cut the groove with a needle file? |
| 17:54.03 | T0mW | trying to find a way to get Advanced Circuits to build a board with multiples on it, yet avoid having them groove the board. The price jumps when they do it. |
| 17:54.55 | T0mW | dunno, maybe I'll just go with the other board house I use and have them make individual tiny boards. But, their quality is not the best / consistent. |
| 17:55.33 | T0mW | Advanced Circuits makes the best quality boards that I've seen. |
| 17:56.20 | T0mW | once you get into their prototype prices, it costs you around $300 to do anything. |
| 18:22.06 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, i told tim abou tit |
| 18:22.53 | prpplague | T0mW: you can get a horizonal paper cutten |
| 18:22.56 | prpplague | cuttor |
| 18:23.51 | T0mW | God! NO! |
| 18:23.54 | jbevren | nod. I figured I'd let you know IWFM now |
| 18:24.01 | prpplague | T0mW: ? |
| 18:24.23 | T0mW | prpplague: I've used those before, they twist the board when they shear |
| 18:24.35 | jbevren | oh |
| 18:24.38 | jbevren | yeah |
| 18:24.41 | jbevren | you dont want to shear the board |
| 18:24.44 | prpplague | T0mW: no you are thinking of a diaganol cutter |
| 18:24.55 | jbevren | they shear the portion being cut off |
| 18:25.04 | jbevren | you want to cut it with a snap line and a brake |
| 18:25.07 | T0mW | I need to prep the board with the grooves, solder the parts on, then break them apart |
| 18:25.10 | prpplague | T0mW: http://www.abcoffice.com/rotary1.htm |
| 18:25.14 | prpplague | T0mW: stuff like that |
| 18:25.16 | jbevren | hey tom, |
| 18:25.21 | jbevren | do they charge you for extra holes? |
| 18:25.26 | jbevren | you could have them drill perf lines |
| 18:25.38 | prpplague | T0mW: just place the pcb in the slot and pull the blade across |
| 18:25.43 | jbevren | OH |
| 18:25.45 | jbevren | -those- |
| 18:25.56 | jbevren | I was thinking of the old fashioned ones that have the big blade handle :) |
| 18:26.09 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 18:26.36 | prpplague | T0mW: there are some other types which have a screw at the top to place even pressure across the length |
| 18:26.55 | T0mW | prpplague: interesting, thanks, I dunno if the blade would be hard enough. Fiberglass is pretty nasty stuff to cut |
| 18:26.58 | jbevren | the blade would go dull real quick I think |
| 18:27.12 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, its sharp enough |
| 18:27.22 | jbevren | tom: glass cutting tool? |
| 18:27.33 | T0mW | jbevren: ooo! |
| 18:27.38 | prpplague | T0mW: they are designed to do alot of paper |
| 18:27.48 | T0mW | jbevren: that might be worth a try |
| 18:28.07 | T0mW | jbevren: IIRC, they even make a diamond blade to cut glass |
| 18:28.12 | jbevren | they do |
| 18:28.24 | jbevren | the cutting tools have a diamond or hard steel wheel |
| 18:28.31 | T0mW | "that" would work! Thanks |
| 18:28.59 | jbevren | it wouldnt cut much of a groove I think, but with enough pressure on both sides, you should get a fair break line I think |
| 18:29.00 | jbevren | give it a test |
| 18:30.14 | T0mW | it doesn't need to be much of a groove, the boards I did get pre-scored only had about a 0.020" groove in them on both sides. The silk outline would give me the "target" to score the groove. |
| 18:30.30 | T0mW | s/"target"/"line" |
| 18:30.35 | jbevren | agreed |
| 18:30.43 | T0mW | jbevren: thank you |
| 18:31.15 | flyback | w00t |
| 18:31.37 | flyback | mabye I will be solding right up with you guys pretty soon :) |
| 18:32.01 | jbevren | flyback: if you have a steady hand, you can do it |
| 18:32.11 | flyback | no i don't :/ |
| 18:32.18 | flyback | but mabye I will build something to compensate |
| 18:32.32 | jbevren | T0mW: if you build a brake, you can probably snap with a smaller groove |
| 18:32.35 | jbevren | er shallower |
| 18:33.09 | T0mW | yeah, but the board won't be flat, it will have parts on it. |
| 18:33.32 | T0mW | jbevren: once you score the board, it breaks very easily along that line |
| 18:33.36 | jbevren | nod |
| 18:34.00 | jbevren | you could build a brake using angle iron and a piano hinge ;-) |
| 18:34.15 | T0mW | you end up with a bit of a ragged edge, but it doesn't have to be a beauty contest as it will be mounted inside an enclosure |
| 18:35.26 | jbevren | nod |
| 18:35.53 | jbevren | http://www.jbevren.net/1571/dscn1629.jpg |
| 18:35.58 | jbevren | top edge of the inner plastic panel heh |
| 18:36.10 | jbevren | that was scored with a knife and snapped on the edge of a table |
| 18:36.31 | jbevren | that's the bottom half of a c128 enclosure |
| 18:36.52 | T0mW | http://cgi.ebay.com/2-PC-DIAMOND-GLASS-CUTTERS-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ140014472186QQihZ004QQcategoryZ42252QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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| 18:37.15 | jbevren | T0mW: go to the local hardware store |
| 18:37.22 | jbevren | its faster and you pay less for shipping ;-) |
| 18:37.29 | T0mW | heh, maaaaybe |
| 18:38.05 | T0mW | at least there, I can look at the product and decide if it is the right tool. |
| 18:40.21 | jbevren | nod |
| 18:47.56 | jbevren | tom: that's pretty much what I was thinking of though |
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| 19:50.07 | prpplague | Isenbeck: greetings |
| 19:50.24 | Isenbeck | ~hola |
| 19:51.42 | prpplague | hehe, Isenbeck is an old friend from my days at abcsinc |
| 19:51.51 | prpplague | ~emulate abcsinc |
| 19:52.02 | prpplague | ~emulate abcs |
| 19:52.03 | purl | if we can't sell it for 500% markup we aren't interested! |
| 19:52.24 | prpplague | Isenbeck: hehe you try it |
| 19:53.37 | prpplague | Isenbeck: GPSFan has been hacking the ZipIt handheld |
| 19:53.41 | Isenbeck | I have in the past |
| 19:53.50 | Isenbeck | lost a coupla' good bids that way |
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| 19:53.55 | prpplague | Isenbeck: jbevren has been hacking the pixter with me |
| 19:54.31 | Isenbeck | it is different when you cant tell the customer that your proprietary S/W wont run on anything else |
| 19:54.53 | prpplague | Isenbeck: lets see, davidc__ has recently won some stuff for getting a totally unkown camera module working from sparjfun.net |
| 19:55.13 | Isenbeck | nice |
| 19:55.25 | prpplague | Isenbeck: mallum is the original author of matchbox which is what is on the nokia 770 device |
| 19:55.30 | jbevren | Isenbeck _o/ |
| 19:55.54 | prpplague | Isenbeck: dfarnsworth works for montavista doing embedded work |
| 19:56.11 | Isenbeck | an allstar cast.......i see :) |
| 19:56.19 | prpplague | Isenbeck: samrobb_ has presented a really nice paper at OLS a few years back |
| 19:56.23 | mallum | hey Isenbeck |
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| 19:56.45 | Isenbeck | hey mallum........jbevren |
| 19:57.05 | Isenbeck | i am trying to get over my stint with the last customer............ |
| 19:57.08 | jbevren | Isenbeck: jbevren.net/pixter |
| 19:57.09 | jbevren | :D |
| 19:57.15 | Isenbeck | i need a nice cold one......... |
| 19:57.23 | jbevren | me too |
| 19:57.24 | jbevren | heh |
| 19:57.28 | prpplague | Isenbeck: hehe, mallum is a planet of the apes fan, so don't freak out of you see me call him a "dirty ape" |
| 19:57.32 | mallum | GPSFan: have you done much new stuff with you zipit ? |
| 19:57.35 | mallum | prpplague: ;) |
| 19:57.47 | jbevren | or when he calls davec a crack baby(?) |
| 19:57.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:58.04 | prpplague | mallum: you seen T0mW's mods? |
| 19:58.13 | jbevren | I think I'll start calling prpplague 'arm ho' |
| 19:58.14 | jbevren | hehe |
| 19:58.15 | mallum | prpplague: no ? |
| 19:58.25 | davidc__ | yeah, I don't get why he calls me that :P |
| 19:58.31 | mallum | prpplague: I have a zipit :) but never done much with it apart from flash it |
| 19:58.32 | davidc__ | I just tell him to go rape himself with a spork |
| 19:58.59 | prpplague | davidc__: hehe, just an odd greating |
| 19:59.06 | davidc__ | :P |
| 19:59.07 | prpplague | greeting non the less |
| 19:59.18 | jbevren | oh, and the great flyback |
| 19:59.25 | jbevren | who occasionally has good input |
| 19:59.30 | prpplague | mallum: http://www.openzipit.org/ |
| 19:59.55 | prpplague | mallum: thats T0mW 's page |
| 20:00.03 | prpplague | mallum: check out the add on board he designed |
| 20:00.17 | jbevren | tom: are you selling those boards btw? |
| 20:00.24 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 20:00.33 | T0mW | jbevren: almost, I'll install one for $70 |
| 20:00.42 | jbevren | hmm |
| 20:00.44 | jbevren | tempting :) |
| 20:01.00 | T0mW | jbevren: been tinkering with the idea of just outright selling them for $30 a pop |
| 20:01.26 | jbevren | the only way it could be better is if one were stuffed also with a vlsi1002 mp3 chip |
| 20:01.27 | jbevren | hehe |
| 20:01.27 | T0mW | most people just don't have a microscope to do the mods |
| 20:01.40 | jbevren | I almost did the sd mod on my red one |
| 20:01.45 | jbevren | but I lost a resistor in a solder blob grr |
| 20:01.46 | jbevren | hehe |
| 20:01.46 | T0mW | jbevren: there is no freakin' room left on the PCB! |
| 20:01.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:02.06 | T0mW | they gotta make smaller parts |
| 20:02.11 | T0mW | heh |
| 20:02.15 | jbevren | T0mW: btw, have you found a larger capacity batt that fits in the battery bay? |
| 20:02.22 | T0mW | yes |
| 20:02.53 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 20:03.09 | T0mW | someone sent me a bunch of LiIon batteries that were out of some unit, they are 1000maH cells. The Zipit will run for 3.5 hours on it |
| 20:03.57 | T0mW | I don't know where he got the things, but they fit ok |
| 20:04.13 | mallum | T0mW: rocking |
| 20:04.22 | mallum | ( your mods ) |
| 20:04.45 | T0mW | mallum: next version of the pcb will use transflash (microSD) |
| 20:04.47 | jbevren | tom: cool |
| 20:04.57 | jbevren | I need to (eventually) take the zipit to the local battery store to see what would fit |
| 20:05.02 | jbevren | its a 6v batt isnt it? |
| 20:05.19 | T0mW | mallum: this way, I get ALL the parts on the top of the PCB :/ |
| 20:05.25 | T0mW | jbevren: no, 3.7v |
| 20:05.45 | jbevren | gotcha |
| 20:05.52 | T0mW | jbevren: you on the zipitwireless list? |
| 20:06.08 | jbevren | I am, but not subscribed to emails |
| 20:06.15 | jbevren | er, I'm on the yahoo group |
| 20:06.26 | T0mW | jbevren: I located 5 or 6 batteries that look like they would fit. Then posted that info to the mailing list a while back |
| 20:06.32 | jbevren | ah |
| 20:06.35 | jbevren | I'll search the archives |
| 20:07.24 | prpplague | well what i'd like to see, is a new case for the zipit, with a pistol grip and barcode scanner, that would make symbol seriously afraid |
| 20:07.39 | T0mW | mallum: PITA soldering those chips to the underside of the board |
| 20:07.49 | mallum | T0mW: can imagine |
| 20:12.03 | davidc__ | hmm... does nobody sell the zipit anymore? |
| 20:12.04 | jbevren | hehe |
| 20:12.10 | jbevren | prpplague: I can do the pistol grip |
| 20:12.15 | jbevren | all I need is some of that low-temp plastic |
| 20:12.31 | jbevren | who's got a barcode scanner? heh |
| 20:12.31 | prpplague | davidc__: there weren't ever sold in the stores, you had to get them online |
| 20:12.36 | davidc__ | ah, amazon has it |
| 20:12.39 | jbevren | nod |
| 20:12.42 | jbevren | dont get it from target |
| 20:12.45 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe, thats a hard one, hmm, me? |
| 20:12.45 | jbevren | they'll spam you |
| 20:12.58 | Isenbeck | I am about to crank up the big iron for a nice fresh load............ |
| 20:12.58 | jbevren | prpplague: you know the plastic I'm talkinga bout? |
| 20:13.05 | jbevren | you warm it in warm water and form it with your hands |
| 20:13.07 | Isenbeck | all of the guys in the lab hate the big iron |
| 20:13.10 | davidc__ | only the .com though, not the .ca... hmm... It would be a freaking awesome ssh console |
| 20:13.25 | jbevren | davidc__: its not bad |
| 20:13.28 | jbevren | its tricky to get | and \ |
| 20:13.32 | jbevren | and you have to shift to get digits |
| 20:13.43 | davidc__ | load it up with scanrand, metasploit + a few other bits and it'd be a perfect.. uh.. network auditing tool |
| 20:13.46 | jbevren | the kbd driver could handle shift-lock |
| 20:13.47 | jbevren | hehe |
| 20:14.04 | jbevren | davidc__: just program it to send out deauth packets continuously |
| 20:14.14 | jbevren | then go hang out at the local starbucks with it running |
| 20:14.56 | jbevren | with my wrt54gs, I got about a block away from home before I lost signal |
| 20:14.58 | davidc__ | ptsh.. death packets is no fun.. if I wanted to be a bastard I'd just dump a watt of noise around the 2.4ghz band ;) |
| 20:15.20 | jbevren | davidc__: or advertise random APs? |
| 20:15.32 | prpplague | hehe, you see that article in circuit cellar about he 2.4ghz spectrum device? |
| 20:16.01 | prpplague | davidc__: http://www.circuitcellar.com/library/print/0406/Armitage-189/index.htm |
| 20:16.24 | prpplague | davidc__: we are thinking about adding a cc2500 chip in our next handheld to help do site surveys |
| 20:20.40 | davidc__ | ooh, neato, hadn't see that |
| 20:21.44 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:26.21 | davidc__ | hmm.. I wonder how hard it would be to do something similar with an ADC, Digital PLL LO, Mixer + Saw filter |
| 20:26.28 | davidc__ | and an envelope follower |
| 20:27.42 | davidc__ | mmh, I just know the words and roughly how they work :) |
| 20:27.47 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:28.12 | davidc__ | theoretically, using a digital PLL as a Local Oscillator, and Mixer, you should be able to downconvert an arbitrary RF signal |
| 20:28.51 | davidc__ | then use a saw filter to lock your bandwidth - dont know an easy way for a adjustable bandwidth filter |
| 20:29.26 | davidc__ | then just envelope follow that to get the rough signal strength |
| 20:29.29 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, I say things that don't make any sense too |
| 20:30.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we could the things the say that make sense, not the other way around |
| 20:30.23 | prpplague | s/the/you |
| 20:30.41 | prpplague | jeeze i can't type, speaking of making sense |
| 20:30.45 | CosmicPenguin | I.... see.... |
| 20:30.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we count the things you say that make sense, not the other way around |
| 20:31.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:38.55 | T0mW | ROTFLMAO "we could the things the say that make sense" |
| 20:39.23 | T0mW | prpplague: you're losing it Dave |
| 20:41.16 | prpplague | yea, yea, beer on an empty stomach |
| 20:43.48 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, i really shouldn't type after 5 or 6 pints, hehe |
| 20:47.55 | T0mW | prpplague: well, your spelling was fine, just got to get the arranging of words thingy |
| 20:49.21 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, yea, my adhd and dyslexia combined |
| 21:23.33 | jbevren | LYSDEXICS UNTIE! |
| 21:23.35 | jbevren | (sorry) |
| 21:23.42 | jbevren | had to say it, I couldnt resist |
| 21:38.27 | GPSFan | mallum: I did the sd/mmc card mod and of course the 5-wire mod, also replaced the lcd reflector on one of my zipits with a holographic mirror. Nothing new lately.. oh yeah I had a LVDO regulator fail in the other of mine after ~200 days of uptime ;>( |
| 21:38.54 | mallum | hehe |
| 21:40.09 | GPSFan | I fixed it, but it's sitting here staring at me, dareing me to put it back online... |
| 21:41.02 | jbevren | GPSFan: the holographic mirror is for decoration or ? |
| 21:42.26 | GPSFan | jbevren: it's instead of a backlight, it redirects the incident light so that the glare isn't at the best viewing angel. I have mixed feelings about it, it's fine for watches, but I don't think so for larger screens. |
| 21:50.57 | jbevren | I see |
| 21:51.06 | jbevren | the yellow-green reflectors |
| 22:01.35 | GPSFan | jbevren: I think Timex had a line of watches with them. in daylight they are outstandingly bright , and ok in otherconditions. colors vary, yellow-green, green-gold, green are common. I think I got this sample from polaroid some years back. |
| 22:06.12 | jbevren | nod |
| 22:06.13 | jbevren | anywho |
| 22:06.15 | jbevren | I'm out |
| 22:54.08 | *** join/#edev bioeng (n=bferguso@12-201-19-185.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:54.14 | bioeng | Hello everyone |
| 22:54.38 | bioeng | I have just been assigned an embedded project by my senior design project advisor |
| 22:54.46 | bioeng | Now I have to select components |
| 22:59.50 | davidc__ | bioeng: and? |
| 22:59.59 | davidc__ | bioeng: you expect us to help you from that description :P |
| 23:06.40 | *** join/#edev jjj (i=jjj@pitts-69-72-13-29.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 23:06.57 | jjj | the usb spec requires *ALL* devices to send an id and notify of insertion correct? |
| 23:07.15 | jjj | so it doesn't matter if that device is supported by dos, linux or whatever it should still say "some device inserted" |
| 23:10.36 | bioeng | Sorry, was afk |
| 23:11.08 | bioeng | Well, the system consists of a microcontroller that accepts sensor input and sends an e-mail via Wi-Fi LAN |
| 23:11.14 | bioeng | I know how to control the motor |
| 23:11.21 | bioeng | but how do I send an e-mail via Wi-Fi |
| 23:11.23 | bioeng | ? |
| 23:11.28 | bioeng | I am new to embedded |
| 23:12.23 | CosmicPenguin | But are you new to electronics? |
| 23:13.50 | agaffney | "send an email via wifi"? the same way you send an email over ethernet |
| 23:14.44 | agaffney | you need a protocol such as tcp/ip to operate over 802.11 |
| 23:14.58 | agaffney | and then a protocol such as smtp to connect to a mail server |
| 23:16.31 | davidc__ | the hard part is gonna be the physical 802.11b interface |
| 23:16.44 | davidc__ | you're gonna have to get some kind of embedded linux board with a minipci slot |
| 23:16.46 | davidc__ | soemthing like that |
| 23:20.20 | bioeng | ok |
| 23:34.17 | davidc__ | bioeng: or get yourself something like a wrt54G |
| 23:34.25 | davidc__ | then hack on a GPIO port |
| 23:40.22 | bioeng | OK |
| 23:40.31 | bioeng | Well, I'm just starting to learn about this |
| 23:41.52 | bioeng | Wait |
| 23:42.03 | bioeng | I just need a microcontroller with a USB port |
| 23:42.45 | bioeng | and then write drivers for wrt54g for that microcontroller |
