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| 13:11.50 | prpplague | jbevren: hey |
| 13:12.02 | prpplague | jbevren: remember i mentioned the sony "mylo" ? |
| 13:12.09 | jbevren | nod |
| 13:13.23 | prpplague | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8202297251.html |
| 13:17.28 | jbevren | any speculation on what cpu it uses? |
| 13:18.28 | prpplague | i doubt its anything off the shelf |
| 13:18.42 | prpplague | i would suspect that it might even be the same as in the psp |
| 13:20.29 | jbevren | I think I'm going to have to start drinking coffee heh |
| 13:25.22 | jbevren | I just like the IP phone concept in it |
| 13:42.36 | prpplague | jbevren: oh i didn't see about that |
| 13:43.38 | prpplague | amd is finally talking about their ati purchase - http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/02/32OPcurve_1.html |
| 13:46.52 | prpplague | heck yea, if ATI is the only one with open source drivers, you can guarrantee that would be a big selling point |
| 13:47.07 | CP|NotAtHome | cept that they're not |
| 13:47.41 | prpplague | CP|NotAtHome: hmm |
| 13:47.51 | prpplague | CP|NotAtHome: this guy reporting bogus info? |
| 13:48.16 | CP|NotAtHome | I would say that yes |
| 13:48.17 | CP|NotAtHome | he is |
| 13:48.33 | prpplague | interesting |
| 13:48.43 | CP|NotAtHome | Whats going on with the airplanes? |
| 13:49.31 | prpplague | CP|NotAtHome: the UK police foiled a plot to destroy about 10 planes at once |
| 13:49.50 | CP|NotAtHome | with plastic explosives or something? |
| 13:50.07 | prpplague | CP|NotAtHome: apparently they were planning to smuggle explosives in toothpaste tubes and hand lotion bottles |
| 13:50.16 | CP|NotAtHome | because all liquids and gels are banned from flights immediately |
| 13:50.45 | CP|NotAtHome | alll carryons are banned in the UK |
| 13:51.15 | prpplague | banned on uk fligths to the US |
| 13:51.36 | jbevren | I think they should just make us fly naked |
| 13:51.40 | jbevren | I mean really |
| 13:51.43 | jbevren | it makes the most sense |
| 13:51.49 | jbevren | you can weave explosives into clothing |
| 13:52.06 | jbevren | oh, and you cant have baggage either |
| 13:52.18 | jbevren | so make sure you bring cash to buy clothes at the other airport |
| 13:52.23 | jbevren | oh wait, you can light that on fire |
| 13:52.40 | CP|NotAtHome | Most of the people I see on airplanes I don't want to see naked |
| 13:53.13 | CP|NotAtHome | prpplague: anyway, I don't expect that you will see ATI drivers any time soon |
| 13:53.26 | CP|NotAtHome | And thats just not the point - AMD didn't buy ATI to open source their drivers |
| 13:53.29 | jbevren | we'll get onto an airplane without taking our shoes off first |
| 13:53.36 | CP|NotAtHome | AMD doesn't care about open sourcing drivers |
| 14:00.46 | prpplague | CP|NotAtHome: yea, i didn't think amd was all about open sourcing drivers, hehe, they want to make money |
| 14:01.02 | prpplague | CP|NotAtHome: just figured it would just add something extra in the battle against intel |
| 14:01.36 | prpplague | god i hope this doesn't cause DoHS to delay donna's greencard |
| 14:09.23 | CP|NotAtHome | hopefully nt |
| 14:09.25 | CP|NotAtHome | not |
| 14:09.34 | CP|NotAtHome | Intel has already released all their drivers |
| 14:17.44 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe, man its gonna be a good year for my dads business, hehe |
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| 14:18.13 | prpplague | jbevren: looks like the DoT is gonna mandate a whole new level of internal corrosion monitoring of all the main oil pipelines |
| 14:30.28 | CosmicPenguin | .clear |
| 14:32.57 | prpplague | doh |
| 14:39.46 | jbevren | prpplague: good |
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| 15:01.02 | prpplague | davidc__: ho ho ho |
| 15:01.10 | prpplague | davidc__: merry freaking thursday |
| 15:03.28 | jbevren | prpplague: its not nice to call people ho's |
| 15:03.30 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:03.52 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:04.03 | jbevren | although it may be better than 'crack baby' |
| 15:04.14 | prpplague | jbevren: i heard a quote on "Verticle Limit" last night that made me laugh |
| 15:05.03 | prpplague | jbevren: the guy said something like "she's french canadian....she's pretty cool most of the time when she's canadian, and well the rest of the time she's french..." |
| 15:07.05 | jbevren | hehe |
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| 15:11.41 | prpplague | T0mW: hey hey |
| 15:11.53 | T0mW | prpplague: hey |
| 15:12.15 | prpplague | T0mW: know anything about the usb port on the lp2148? you get your littlechips board yet? |
| 15:12.29 | T0mW | prpplague: feel like someone was beating me up all night |
| 15:12.44 | prpplague | T0mW: we aren't interested in hearing about your sex life |
| 15:12.45 | T0mW | prpplague: my ex-wife used to do that when I snored, but, it wasn't her. heh |
| 15:12.54 | T0mW | lol |
| 15:12.58 | T0mW | :) |
| 15:13.14 | T0mW | prpplague: nothing on the LPC2148 |
| 15:13.19 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 15:13.36 | jbevren | I think sparkfun has sample usb code for the LPCs |
| 15:13.36 | T0mW | prpplague: littlechips said they sent the board out via USPS Wednesday |
| 15:13.48 | jbevren | who's littlechips? .com? |
| 15:13.57 | jbevren | oh lovely |
| 15:13.59 | T0mW | jbevren: yeah |
| 15:14.09 | jbevren | retard claims its OUR fault that his inbox is constantly full |
| 15:14.16 | jbevren | most of his emails have been read but not removed |
| 15:14.17 | jbevren | heh |
| 15:14.22 | T0mW | I got the LN2410 with the touch LCD |
| 15:14.42 | jbevren | ah |
| 15:14.49 | jbevren | is it a sexay beast? heh |
| 15:14.50 | T0mW | prpplague: you guys don't have to U/L your equipment, do you? |
| 15:15.25 | T0mW | jbevren: it has a face that only an engineer could love |
| 15:15.32 | jbevren | tom: sweet |
| 15:15.33 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:16.26 | T0mW | prpplague: I do know that a lot of people on the LPC2000 mailing list are working with USB slave and the LPC2148s |
| 15:16.50 | T0mW | prpplague: IIRC, IAR also has sample code for USB |
| 15:16.51 | jbevren | oh |
| 15:16.54 | jbevren | lpc as in littlepc |
| 15:17.02 | T0mW | dunno |
| 15:17.03 | jbevren | not as in philip's lpc chips |
| 15:17.08 | jbevren | I was out of context :) |
| 15:17.18 | jbevren | hm the 2440sbc is cool |
| 15:17.20 | jbevren | $400 tho |
| 15:17.33 | prpplague | T0mW: yea i was just curious as if its a true usb slave device,i.e. your do your own stack, or if it is hardcoded to something like a serial gadget |
| 15:17.39 | T0mW | jbevren: actually, the LPC2106 has 128K Flash + 64K SRAM. That was about the size of my first CP/M system |
| 15:17.53 | jbevren | T0mW: yep |
| 15:17.57 | jbevren | I grew up on an apple2 |
| 15:18.04 | jbevren | 128k ram and 140k floppy |
| 15:18.11 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:18.13 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:18.15 | jbevren | prodos used the extra 64k bank for a ramdisk if you so wished |
| 15:18.27 | jbevren | so I had a nice tool to auto-copy to and from /RAM/ |
| 15:18.37 | jbevren | prodos was nice in its path-based structure |
| 15:18.57 | jbevren | then I got a commodore 64 with a bad pallete ram |
| 15:19.04 | T0mW | jbevren: heh, I was going to say something derogatory about Apple ][s, but since I did > 4 years of apple pascal at one time, I won't |
| 15:19.12 | jbevren | I wired the palette ram's data bits high so that the screen wouldnt constantly flicker heh |
| 15:19.37 | jbevren | T0mW: apple2's needed lots of help, but they were invented in a garage |
| 15:19.59 | T0mW | jbevren: yeah, I took a timex sinclair 32K memory module and wired that into my C64 to give me 96K of ram |
| 15:20.17 | prpplague | T0mW: cool |
| 15:20.18 | jbevren | 128M compactflash, 4M ram, 32voice wavetable, 4096 colors |
| 15:20.22 | jbevren | its a grown-up apple2 heh |
| 15:20.29 | T0mW | yeh |
| 15:20.33 | jbevren | I had a ts1000 |
| 15:20.46 | T0mW | jbevren: hey, stick an SD card on it and write some overlay code. |
| 15:20.47 | jbevren | I eventually pulled the guts out and mounted it inside an old tube tv |
| 15:20.57 | prpplague | i wish they would open source the rom for the TS and zx series |
| 15:21.00 | jbevren | T0mW: why? it has 4M of linear ram :) |
| 15:21.06 | T0mW | oh |
| 15:21.21 | jbevren | the IIgs uses the 65816 cpu (16M of linear address space) |
| 15:21.34 | jbevren | its arch limits it to 8M, the top address line selects between ram and IO |
| 15:21.56 | jbevren | apple (at the time) was doing the same with the macs, using A23 to switch between ram and IO |
| 15:22.00 | T0mW | jbevren: I stopped with the Apple ][e's |
| 15:22.10 | jbevren | nod |
| 15:22.13 | jbevren | 65(c)02 |
| 15:22.29 | jbevren | the IIgs has a full toolbox rom |
| 15:22.37 | jbevren | graphics tools, SANE math toolkit |
| 15:22.39 | T0mW | yup, twin 140K drives + 10Meg LAN storage box |
| 15:22.42 | jbevren | modular OS |
| 15:22.54 | jbevren | ah, I forget the name of those |
| 15:22.59 | jbevren | we didnt lan our apple2's at school |
| 15:23.01 | T0mW | I cannot recall WTF the name of that box was |
| 15:23.06 | jbevren | one had an appletalk card for access to the laser printer |
| 15:23.13 | T0mW | CORVUS |
| 15:23.16 | jbevren | yeah |
| 15:23.22 | jbevren | I see them on ebay now and then |
| 15:23.28 | T0mW | wow |
| 15:23.35 | jbevren | Those were sweet, there were apple, pc, and mac client gadgets |
| 15:23.48 | T0mW | yeah, they were, cutting edge at the time |
| 15:23.54 | jbevren | I have a second IIgs with 3M ram that netboots(!) from my mac 7200 |
| 15:24.08 | prpplague | i have a ton of work i have to do today and i don't feel like doing any of it |
| 15:24.19 | agaffney | sounds familiar :P |
| 15:24.27 | jbevren | concur |
| 15:25.02 | T0mW | prpplague: yup, I do too.. I promised to build a mockup of the SPI cards + S3C2410 system in 45 days |
| 15:25.32 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe familiar as in "i've heard prpplague say that before" or familiar as in "i have the same problem" |
| 15:25.35 | T0mW | fortunately, I see that DigiKey FINALLY has stock on LPC2000 cpus! |
| 15:26.07 | prpplague | T0mW: sooo. you gonna use the littlechips board for the proof-of-concept ? |
| 15:26.10 | jbevren | very cool |
| 15:26.21 | T0mW | I ordered 10 each of LPC2138 + LPC2106 cpus last night to make sure I had my stock. |
| 15:26.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/08/21/8383598/index.htm |
| 15:26.29 | T0mW | prpplague: correct |
| 15:26.55 | T0mW | prpplague: I also have an inquiry into littlechips on OEM quantities + UL certification |
| 15:27.24 | prpplague | T0mW: neeto |
| 15:27.28 | T0mW | prpplague: I suspect that we will have them design a custom board for us |
| 15:27.41 | prpplague | T0mW: shame we aren't selling out s3c2410 sodim |
| 15:27.47 | prpplague | T0mW: would be perfect for you |
| 15:28.16 | T0mW | yeah, I don't need a whole lot of I/O but that board sure offers it |
| 15:29.05 | T0mW | bbl, phone call |
| 15:29.33 | prpplague | T0mW: you've got spam |
| 15:32.45 | agaffney | prpplague: same problem :) |
| 15:32.54 | prpplague | agaffney: ahh |
| 15:33.16 | T0mW | I was just looking at the last board I put together. It is simply amazing how small these chips & stuff have now gotten! |
| 15:35.16 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 15:35.25 | prpplague | T0mW: you look at those pics? |
| 15:36.29 | prpplague | T0mW: pic0229.jpg is of our first rev of the s3c2410 main board |
| 15:36.46 | prpplague | T0mW: basically the same as the little board without the connectors |
| 15:37.01 | prpplague | s/little/littlechips |
| 15:38.30 | prpplague | T0mW: you can see in 0231.jpg we got it all down to a sodim |
| 15:40.55 | prpplague | the US sure needs some patent reform..... |
| 15:41.05 | jbevren | REALLY? |
| 15:41.07 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:41.23 | prpplague | can you believe that Symbol has a patent on performing a barcode scan using a trigger |
| 15:42.03 | prpplague | makes me think of all the things that i thought were common sense, that i could have patented |
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| 15:42.22 | jbevren | heh |
| 15:42.33 | jbevren | I used to play volleyball with the inventor of the flourescent light each week |
| 15:42.39 | jbevren | (random comment related to patents) |
| 15:42.48 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:42.54 | jbevren | more specifically, the ballested ones that dont flash as they start up |
| 15:44.07 | T0mW | prpplague: nice board |
| 15:44.28 | T0mW | prpplague: how much RAM & Flash? |
| 15:45.14 | prpplague | T0mW: 32mb flash , 16mb ram |
| 15:45.31 | prpplague | T0mW: with pads for larger combos |
| 15:45.38 | T0mW | prpplague: how many layer board? |
| 15:45.42 | prpplague | T0mW: 6 |
| 15:45.46 | T0mW | ah |
| 15:45.50 | T0mW | interesting |
| 15:45.56 | prpplague | T0mW: but we are probably going to 8 for our next version |
| 15:46.09 | T0mW | why? |
| 15:46.27 | T0mW | you putting more stuff on the other side of the board? |
| 15:46.27 | prpplague | T0mW: we are adding a second restraining mounting hole, and adding some more i/o on the connector |
| 15:46.37 | T0mW | heh |
| 15:46.42 | T0mW | it just grows and grows |
| 15:46.54 | prpplague | T0mW: naw, the next version should be pretty stable |
| 15:47.06 | prpplague | T0mW: we have about 10 more i/o we want to bring out |
| 15:47.07 | T0mW | that's the problem with marketing, they are never satisfied |
| 15:47.18 | prpplague | T0mW: well this was always part of the plan |
| 15:48.02 | prpplague | T0mW: i really liked the board in pic 229 |
| 15:48.13 | prpplague | T0mW: i wish that was available to hobbists |
| 15:49.12 | T0mW | yeah, if you could mount the BGA stuff, then maybe you could convince your company let you have the design / gerbers to build your own. Cut them in for 10% of the take, heh |
| 15:49.23 | prpplague | naw |
| 15:49.27 | prpplague | i'd never do that |
| 15:50.07 | prpplague | that would take to much time away from me hacking |
| 15:50.07 | T0mW | prpplague: actually, since we are in a non-competing industry, it might be possible to even purchase a version of the design from aml |
| 15:51.05 | prpplague | T0mW: maybe when you a little further down the road, you could probably contact mr.herod about it |
| 15:51.12 | T0mW | but, I think that what my customer wants to do is get the stuff off-the-shelf for the main CPU, no testing or manufacture. If it is broke, they send it back. |
| 15:51.25 | prpplague | ahh |
| 15:51.55 | prpplague | aren't they worried about the supplier going under or not delivering? |
| 15:52.10 | T0mW | the thing is UL, with UL they get bitchy if you change the design, they want to review your changes to make sure you are following their acceptable engineering practice guidlines. |
| 15:52.22 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:52.49 | T0mW | stuff like FR4 pcb material, only 70% of rated values, etc. |
| 15:53.15 | prpplague | hehe yea, we have to get UL tested |
| 15:53.47 | T0mW | I had to go to chicago to walk some stuff through one time |
| 15:54.20 | T0mW | interesting position UL is in: they test you to make sure you are ok, but you are paying them to fail you. |
| 15:57.10 | prpplague | hehe yea |
| 15:58.16 | prpplague | anyway, if you need some help with the s3c2410 let me know |
| 15:59.50 | T0mW | prpplague: oh definately, I am hoping that you can point me in the right directions. Thank you! |
| 16:00.01 | prpplague | hehe np |
| 16:00.18 | prpplague | T0mW: you would be doing any suspend/resume ? |
| 16:01.42 | T0mW | prpplague: no |
| 16:01.58 | T0mW | prpplague: the system will never sleep or idle |
| 16:02.32 | T0mW | prpplague: parts of it may, but that would be the LPC2000 cards perhaps |
| 16:03.23 | prpplague | hmmm "The group also is working with disc makers to produce CSS-compatible blank DVDs." does that make sense to anyone? it doesn't to me as CSS is encoded in the video |
| 16:04.25 | T0mW | hmmm, trying to use the samba PDF printer with WinNt for the first time. |
| 16:06.59 | prpplague | T0mW: then the layout for the littlechips should do fine for you |
| 16:07.10 | prpplague | T0mW: as they don't implement the nessary items for that |
| 16:07.51 | T0mW | prpplague: oh, they give you the layout as well as the schematic? |
| 16:07.53 | prpplague | jbevren: i wish i could get more people interested in hack on the pixter-mm |
| 16:08.45 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, sorry wording, i was using the word "layout" to indicate how they connected the cpu power subsystem |
| 16:08.57 | prpplague | T0mW: and no, they only provide schematic iirc |
| 16:09.14 | T0mW | nod |
| 16:11.00 | prpplague | T0mW: oh, and the kernel they are using is very old |
| 16:11.09 | prpplague | T0mW: 2.6.13 iirc |
| 16:11.32 | prpplague | T0mW: thought about which bootloader you plan to use? |
| 16:11.34 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, I saw you talking with someone about that the other day |
| 16:11.44 | T0mW | prpplague: not yet |
| 16:17.56 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 16:18.02 | prpplague | is it time to drink yet? |
| 16:22.51 | T0mW | "Yes, I want to restart my computer now" |
| 16:54.16 | prpplague | hehe, the airlines are calling all the hotels for american citizens |
| 16:54.59 | prpplague | just heard a radio commercial announcing that anyone traveling in the next 14 days needs to call the airlines |
| 16:59.37 | CosmicPenguin | ew |
| 16:59.41 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 16:59.47 | CosmicPenguin | they're serious |
| 17:00.32 | CosmicPenguin | David Woodhouse is currently in Taiawan - he may not be coming home |
| 17:00.42 | CosmicPenguin | for a little bit, at least |
| 17:12.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe yea |
| 17:12.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: been teasing him about the food |
| 17:13.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think he's a little putout at not finding a good pint |
| 17:13.07 | CosmicPenguin | He probably wants to throttle me about now |
| 17:13.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe why's that? |
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| 17:13.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: because he's been struggling with my broken ass code and my company's broken ass processor |
| 17:14.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:16.08 | prpplague | lord sweet lord i hope this doesn't cause a problem with donna's greencard |
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| 17:42.10 | T0mW | prpplague: sigh, pretty soon now, anyone traveling on an airline will be handed a paper smock to wear, then have lie down in a container resembling a coffin and be put to sleep for the journey. |
| 17:42.41 | T0mW | prpplague: this way, they absolutely, positively cannot harm anyone or anything. |
| 17:42.55 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: I would be fine with that |
| 17:43.07 | CosmicPenguin | Like in the Fifth Element |
| 17:43.12 | T0mW | prpplague: unless of course, they swallow plastic explosives and a detonator... |
| 17:43.20 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: exactly |
| 17:43.37 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: I like that movie, heh |
| 17:43.41 | CosmicPenguin | Me too |
| 17:43.46 | CosmicPenguin | I think its generally underrated |
| 17:43.54 | CosmicPenguin | one of Willis's best |
| 17:44.01 | T0mW | nod |
| 17:47.25 | prpplague | hehe yep |
| 17:47.40 | prpplague | i think the whole security thing is over rated anyway |
| 17:50.43 | CosmicPenguin | I think its time for me to buy a crap load of medium large stuff |
| 17:50.47 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ?? |
| 17:52.06 | prpplague | interesting this camera has a 8032 compatible core |
| 17:52.12 | CosmicPenguin | If you donate 25 dollars or more to Medium Large, the creator will send you a signed drawing |
| 17:57.43 | prpplague | oh |
| 18:01.26 | CosmicPenguin | fsckin proxy |
| 18:13.17 | prpplague | man i have been totally un productive this week |
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| 18:23.14 | prpplague | i've always said it would be easy to make fake electronic devices |
| 18:24.05 | prpplague | cool |
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| 18:27.36 | prpplague | the embedded dev arena sure has been changing lately |
| 18:29.08 | T0mW | amazingly, the footprint I did off the Molex drawing is right on. |
| 18:29.10 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, funny, mr.herod always tries to catch me with some news or new release , hehe, but i'm always atleast 2 or 3 steps ahead on the news |
| 18:29.32 | T0mW | prpplague: heh, office chatter eh? |
| 18:29.42 | prpplague | T0mW: naw, industry news |
| 18:29.57 | T0mW | prpplague: ask him for mo' money |
| 18:30.18 | T0mW | prpplague: just to cover your "industry sources" |
| 18:30.23 | prpplague | naw, if i was to ask for anything, i'd want more sponsorship to conferences |
| 18:30.26 | T0mW | :P |
| 18:30.36 | T0mW | prpplague: that would work |
| 18:30.47 | prpplague | thats the _only_ complaint i have about AML |
| 18:30.52 | T0mW | Dusseldorf, Prague, ... |
| 18:31.03 | prpplague | they _only_ pay for sales people to attend conferences |
| 18:31.38 | T0mW | prpplague: maybe he thinks that you will blab company secrets |
| 18:31.49 | prpplague | T0mW: ?? |
| 18:32.11 | T0mW | after all, engineers are only loyal to the technologies, not the companies: open source |
| 18:32.41 | prpplague | T0mW: oh, well as far as that is concerned , we are a full opensource company |
| 18:32.58 | prpplague | T0mW: 100% of the software on our devices is available |
| 18:34.32 | prpplague | T0mW: i think its mainly that AML has never had any experience with people who want to attend conferences |
| 18:34.46 | prpplague | T0mW: they mainly look at them as sales opportunites |
| 18:34.53 | prpplague | T0mW: not really as educational environs |
| 18:35.09 | T0mW | ah |
| 18:35.50 | prpplague | T0mW: once i'm back in the states i might press the issue, but for now, i've got nothing to complain about |
| 18:35.55 | prpplague | T0mW: aml has been great |
| 18:37.38 | T0mW | better than the last job |
| 18:38.16 | prpplague | OH YEA |
| 18:38.55 | prpplague | T0mW: kinda like going from some country in africa to the united states, big big difference |
| 18:39.36 | prpplague | T0mW: things like company sponsored parties, awesome health care plan, holiday time off |
| 18:39.57 | T0mW | get out, you never got paid holidays off? |
| 18:40.26 | T0mW | oh, you mean like a week at Xmas time |
| 18:40.50 | prpplague | T0mW: both |
| 18:42.00 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:42.12 | prpplague | T0mW: not taken vacation either |
| 18:42.32 | prpplague | T0mW: in the 5 years i was with abcs, i took a grand total of 4 days vacation |
| 18:42.44 | T0mW | that's ugly, I wouldn't have even taken the job |
| 18:43.09 | prpplague | just don't know anything different |
| 18:43.45 | prpplague | T0mW: i have almost 30 days vacation time with aml that i've not taken |
| 18:43.50 | T0mW | I'd been working corporations here in the New Jersey area and all that stuff is expected |
| 18:44.09 | T0mW | prpplague: time for a vacation to Iceland |
| 18:44.26 | T0mW | :P go someplace "different" |
| 18:44.34 | prpplague | can't afford it hehe |
| 18:44.46 | prpplague | T0mW: "expected" ? expected that they don't take vacation? |
| 18:45.02 | T0mW | I think I'm going to put a micro SD socket on one of the new boards I'm designing, just because |
| 18:45.17 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:45.27 | T0mW | prpplague: no, expected that those benefits are going to be offered |
| 18:45.53 | prpplague | T0mW: oh yea, i got good vacation time, just never took it |
| 18:46.03 | T0mW | well, too, the NorthEast U.S. was a Labor Union stronghold for years. |
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| 18:46.50 | T0mW | prpplague: I've two "blank" "cookie" boards to design: LPC2138 basic system and LPC2106 basic board system. |
| 18:47.23 | T0mW | prpplague: I've the LPC2138 done and working on the LPC2106, but, I need them to do something usefull other than run the SPI stuff |
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| 19:33.50 | prpplague | greetings mallum sjhill |
| 19:34.43 | mallum | hey prpplague |
| 19:39.54 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: haven't seen you around much lately |
| 19:41.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: he's been on something called a "vacation" , i'm not sure what that means, but he said thats what he was doing |
| 19:42.19 | CosmicPenguin | vacation huh? |
| 19:42.21 | CosmicPenguin | file not found |
| 19:44.28 | T0mW | ~vacation? |
| 19:44.29 | purl | A mail auto-responder. URL: http://www.life.uiuc.edu/igorl/ISL/programs/current.html#vacation |
| 19:44.49 | CosmicPenguin | Oh - ok |
| 19:44.52 | CosmicPenguin | its a perl script |
| 19:45.01 | CosmicPenguin | I can grok that |
| 19:46.01 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: yeah, looks wierd, doesn't make much sense, but is useful |
| 19:49.48 | jbevren | 404 |
| 19:52.11 | CosmicPenguin | Tht storm of his petered out |
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| 20:25.00 | sjhill | hey guys |
| 20:25.14 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: yeah, back from vacation and getting really busy too |
| 20:33.20 | CosmicPenguin | hope that means life will be profitable... :) |
| 20:34.08 | sjhill | not currently |
| 20:34.13 | sjhill | but by Christmas perhaps |
| 20:34.24 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the best time to be proitable too |
| 20:34.43 | CosmicPenguin | profitable even |
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| 20:41.54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that storm of yours sort of disappeared |
| 20:42.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 20:42.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: died out |
| 20:43.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but it left things really hot and humid |
| 20:43.52 | CosmicPenguin | I'll bet |
| 20:52.51 | CosmicPenguin | man, I should start using poky |
| 20:52.58 | CosmicPenguin | but I don't have the wherewithall to start over |
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| 21:33.18 | prpplague | damm, this week i've been about as useful as a m$ windows security patch |
| 21:34.39 | flyback | hey prpplague |
| 21:34.47 | flyback | prepare for a world of ass reaming on your way back to the states |
| 21:34.51 | prpplague | hey flyback |
| 21:35.01 | flyback | you will be lucky if they let you keep your soldering iron |
| 21:35.02 | flyback | :/ |
| 21:36.15 | flyback | after this terrorist plot the airlines are back into total paranoid mode |
| 21:36.17 | prpplague | it ain't perfect but its better than whats out there |
| 21:36.32 | flyback | I know |
| 21:36.51 | flyback | bbl, I am going to drive to my folks house to get my auto manuals so I can fix my belt |
| 21:37.24 | flyback | btw samsung just converted another dram plant to nand production |
| 21:37.36 | flyback | hopefully this means flash will continue to evolove and get cheaper |
| 21:37.40 | jbevren | yay higher dram production |
| 21:37.41 | flyback | = more fun for us :) |
| 21:37.49 | jbevren | s/production/prices/ |
| 21:38.00 | flyback | purl mabye some but not too bad |
| 21:38.03 | flyback | from what I seen |
| 21:38.17 | jbevren | ebay 230009274703 |
| 21:38.19 | jbevren | innit cute? |
| 21:38.20 | flyback | prpplague apple is sucking samsung dry |
| 21:38.26 | flyback | flash demand wise |
| 21:38.54 | flyback | anyways heading out |
| 21:39.06 | flyback | hopefully this time when I drive all the way to my folks house I don't forget my damn house key again |
| 21:39.07 | flyback | :P |
| 21:40.46 | jbevren | put your house key on your car's keychain |
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| 21:47.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey hey hey |
| 21:47.38 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 21:47.40 | CosmicPenguin | somebody at amd corporate is having fun messing with the proxies |
| 21:49.38 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:50.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats what you get for running your proxy on a geode, hehehe |
| 21:50.08 | prpplague | :P |
| 21:50.26 | CosmicPenguin | Alchemy |
| 21:50.36 | CosmicPenguin | Geodes are too valuable for a proxy |
| 21:51.51 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 23:30.43 | sn9_ | hello. are previous versions of buildroot still supported? |