| 00:02.22 | prpplague | sn9_: uh no |
| 00:02.30 | prpplague | sn9_: buildroot is a moving target |
| 00:02.44 | prpplague | sn9_: if its more than a few weeks old you are out of luck |
| 00:02.46 | CosmicPenguin | it will run you over if you don't watch out |
| 00:02.52 | prpplague | hehe |
| 00:03.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: go drink some moose drool |
| 00:03.18 | sn9_ | drat |
| 00:03.52 | sn9_ | i needed a toolchain for uClibc 0.9.27 |
| 00:04.10 | prpplague | sn9_: whats wrong with grabbing the latest buildroot? |
| 00:04.29 | sn9_ | isn't it for the latest uClibc? |
| 00:04.57 | prpplague | sn9_: plus the last 2 versions of uclibc |
| 00:05.05 | sn9_ | ah, ok |
| 00:05.09 | sn9_ | thanx |
| 00:05.34 | sn9_ | of course, with my luck, i'll have the same problem |
| 00:06.10 | prpplague | sn9_: svn of build supports daily snapshot, 0.9.28 and can be mod'd for 0.9.27 |
| 00:06.59 | sn9_ | i'd rather have minimal mods until i know more about what doesn't work about the stock setup |
| 00:07.33 | sn9_ | what's the last version that directly supported 0.9.27? |
| 00:09.14 | prpplague | 0.9.28 |
| 00:10.14 | sn9_ | i didn't see a direct download for that version. is it only in svn? |
| 00:10.58 | prpplague | sn9_: hmm, buildroot will pull that version |
| 00:11.05 | prpplague | sn9_: the current buildroot in svn |
| 00:12.17 | sn9_ | no, i mean a version of buildroot that will pull uClibc 0.9.27 -- i thought you meant buildroot 0.9.28 will do that |
| 00:13.45 | prpplague | sn9_: no, if you want 0.9.27 just change the config file in the current cvs to pull 0.9.27 |
| 00:14.02 | sn9_ | no other changes? |
| 00:14.06 | prpplague | nope |
| 00:14.14 | sn9_ | great |
| 00:15.13 | sn9_ | i assume today's snapshot is new enough |
| 00:15.36 | prpplague | yea |
| 00:16.17 | sn9_ | ok, untarred... |
| 00:22.18 | sn9_ | i know which versions of uClibc and gcc i need, but not binutils |
| 00:31.15 | prpplague | sn9_: start with the lowest supported |
| 00:31.42 | sn9_ | supported by buildroot? |
| 00:32.01 | prpplague | yea |
| 00:32.43 | sn9_ | currently, that's 2.14.90.0.8 |
| 00:34.08 | sn9_ | and i'll know that's too old if buildroot fails? or if the built toolchain fails? |
| 00:34.55 | prpplague | yea i would try a 2.16 |
| 00:35.57 | sn9_ | the gcc i need is 3.4.1 -- any particular binutils best for that? |
| 00:39.16 | prpplague | sn9_: just try a 2.16 for now |
| 00:39.24 | prpplague | just get a starting point |
| 00:41.08 | sn9_ | 2.16 isn't even an option |
| 00:42.31 | sn9_ | the one in the list prior to 2.16.1 is 2.15.94.0.2.2 |
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| 01:18.30 | sn9_ | well, the latest buildroot has no 3.4.1 patches... |
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| 01:36.46 | sunrunner20 | hmm |
| 01:36.51 | sunrunner20 | anybody have a disk changer? |
| 01:37.04 | sunrunner20 | preferably one with more than 50 slots |
| 01:37.34 | prpplague | i have access to one, why? |
| 01:39.01 | sunrunner20 | i want to have or make one |
| 01:39.11 | prpplague | oh |
| 01:39.13 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:39.22 | sunrunner20 | or hack one thats for music to my needs |
| 01:39.23 | prpplague | there are some lego versions hehe |
| 01:39.52 | sunrunner20 | how to store the CDs... |
| 01:40.04 | sunrunner20 | cd's won't warp if stored on an edge will they? |
| 02:01.43 | flyback | actually |
| 02:01.46 | flyback | you want them on idge |
| 02:01.50 | flyback | it prevents warping |
| 02:04.52 | sunrunner20 | don't sit on the plexiglas toilet.... |
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| 08:36.54 | jfilos | hi |
| 08:37.00 | jfilos | anyone there ? |
| 08:37.24 | jfilos | when using buildroot, how can I specify a different version of libc ? |
| 08:37.37 | jfilos | using the daily snapshot of ulibc i get a seg fault when running sshd |
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| 10:09.36 | jfilos | ok maybe not ... :P |
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| 14:24.09 | prpplague | anyone have experience with RFID ? |
| 14:44.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings earthling |
| 14:44.50 | CosmicPenguin | greeting |
| 14:45.15 | CosmicPenguin | I do not come in peace |
| 14:46.10 | prpplague | then you will leave in pieces |
| 14:56.15 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 14:56.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still OLPC hacking? |
| 14:56.34 | CosmicPenguin | you know it |
| 14:56.43 | CosmicPenguin | its the only thing that keeps me sane |
| 14:57.02 | prpplague | hmm |
| 14:57.43 | CosmicPenguin | sanity is a sliding scale |
| 14:58.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, i've made some progress on the usb dongle for flashing the bios chips |
| 14:58.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: haven't had time to finish testing and write it up |
| 14:58.18 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:58.30 | CosmicPenguin | fyb |
| 14:58.31 | CosmicPenguin | fun |
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| 14:59.34 | prpplague | sjhill: hey hey |
| 14:59.46 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 15:00.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea its just something to learn with, since future rev's of OLPC aren't gonna have that chip |
| 15:00.17 | prpplague | sjhill: what cookin? |
| 15:00.24 | sjhill | prpplague: kernel development |
| 15:00.25 | sjhill | finally |
| 15:00.37 | sjhill | i've been pre-empted every day this week |
| 15:01.37 | prpplague | ahh |
| 15:01.57 | prpplague | sjhill: anything interesting? |
| 15:04.52 | sjhill | always |
| 15:05.33 | prpplague | sjhill: gotten any more work related to the NPTL stuff? |
| 15:20.36 | sjhill | not yet |
| 15:20.40 | sjhill | i have to do some proposal work |
| 15:20.41 | sjhill | bleh |
| 15:23.26 | prpplague | not so fun |
| 15:27.23 | CosmicPenguin | but sjhill gottsa get paid! |
| 15:37.44 | T0mW | sjhill: proposal: "you need this, we know how to do it, send money" |
| 15:38.02 | T0mW | sjhill: done |
| 15:45.47 | CosmicPenguin | Hey baby, you want you 8051 programmed? |
| 15:46.43 | T0mW | ~smack CosmicPenguin around |
| 15:46.44 | purl | ACTION smacks CosmicPenguin around upside the head. |
| 15:47.01 | T0mW | heh |
| 15:47.31 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: I only have 32bits in my future |
| 15:48.19 | CosmicPenguin | as in quarters |
| 15:48.23 | CosmicPenguin | thats 8 bucks for you |
| 15:48.32 | CosmicPenguin | sorry - I mean 4 bucks |
| 15:56.43 | prpplague | man you should read some of the immigration nightmares - http://www.visajourney.com |
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| 16:09.06 | jbevren | man #freeswitch is dead |
| 16:10.28 | prpplague | freeswitch? |
| 16:10.35 | jbevren | nod |
| 16:10.53 | jbevren | they hit slashdot recently |
| 16:11.04 | jbevren | its a pbx softswitch |
| 16:11.19 | jbevren | there's no documentation for it whatosever |
| 16:11.33 | jbevren | and 'help' only includes help and shutdown commands |
| 16:11.43 | jbevren | so its basically useless without the nonexistent documentation |
| 16:28.03 | prpplague | oh |
| 16:28.10 | prpplague | kinda like INS and DoHS |
| 16:29.11 | prpplague | its so funny, virtually every consulate, INS office and DoHS office have different rules for the same procedure |
| 16:29.59 | prpplague | i checked 5 different .gov sites today, and not one of them say the same thing, and....not one of them decribes the rules the local consulate uses |
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| 16:42.57 | prpplague | shhh, no one make any ape jokes |
| 16:49.43 | mallum | hehe |
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| 16:59.35 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: did you have your baby yet? :) |
| 16:59.58 | prpplague | mallum's pregnant? wow |
| 17:00.01 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:00.02 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: not yet. due date is 2 weeks , so any time now |
| 17:00.36 | CosmicPenguin | his fork()ed process is almost ready to spawn |
| 17:01.25 | CosmicPenguin | I'm told that new processes need special attention to both stdin and stdout |
| 17:02.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and stderr |
| 17:03.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have to do a lot of file descriptor checking for garbage output |
| 17:04.17 | T0mW | technically, mallum is pregnant |
| 17:04.44 | mallum | ;) |
| 17:04.45 | T0mW | when the wife is pregnant, so are you |
| 17:05.13 | T0mW | mallum: first one? |
| 17:07.09 | mallum | yeap |
| 17:07.09 | mallum | bricking it |
| 17:07.09 | T0mW | cool |
| 17:07.11 | mallum | though excited too |
| 17:07.15 | mallum | wierd combo |
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| 18:52.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: dang, how did you post bail so soon? hehe - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207963,00.html |
| 19:00.31 | flyback | prpplague |
| 19:00.45 | flyback | I managed to power up a 6 color changing led module from a broken floating solar pool light |
| 19:01.10 | flyback | using a windmill generator I built from a dead fan plastic blade set and a large dc brushed motor from a hp 6xx inkjet series printer :P |
| 19:02.00 | flyback | think I might take one of those cheap radio shack pcb boards and solder together a bunch of 1000uf+ caps |
| 19:06.43 | flyback | http://wiki.castlecops.com/AntiVirus_Comparison |
| 19:06.51 | flyback | sorry wrong channel |
| 19:06.58 | jbevren | nyaa! |
| 19:07.47 | jbevren | flyback: you should make sure you put a regulator on the thing, so that the motor doesnt generate too much voltage |
| 19:07.48 | CosmicPenguin | yay utah |
| 19:08.50 | sn9_ | is there a minimum version of gcc needed to build stuff with buildroot? |
| 19:08.51 | flyback | jbe yeah I was thinking about that |
| 19:08.54 | flyback | guestion |
| 19:09.03 | flyback | if a ldo goes out of regulation then it just passes thru right? |
| 19:10.57 | flyback | also probably going to have to build a bridge rec so that I get the same polarity no matter which direction the motor is spun |
| 19:11.17 | flyback | going to make my own out of schottky diodes so that the total drop is like .4 vs 1.2 or something |
| 19:12.14 | flyback | I also still have to get a glue to build the motor pulley to the fan blades |
| 19:12.25 | flyback | it just happens to fit inside perfectely snug |
| 19:12.35 | flyback | but since I have no clue what either plastic is I will have to find something universal |
| 19:13.28 | jbevren | put a tail on the wind assembly so that it always faces the wind |
| 19:13.33 | jbevren | that way the props will always spin the same way |
| 19:13.38 | flyback | yeah but can't it still change direction? |
| 19:13.42 | jbevren | that saves you the trouble of overcoming a 1.4v drop |
| 19:15.06 | flyback | hmm if that's true then I would only need 1 .2 schottky to keep the motor from becoming a motor |
| 19:17.07 | flyback | only reason I am using a dc brushed motor which aren't really good for power generation and have brush life issues anyways is because this one just so happens to fit the shaft perfectely and I have 0 ability to line up shafts, drill a hole in a shaft center perefectely etc |
| 19:18.38 | flyback | since I have 2 of these motors and a 3rd if I trash a hp 6xx inkjet which I was planning to do anyways cause they suck, I should be good for parts for a while |
| 19:19.01 | flyback | also these motors are double shafted so I might see if home depo has a couple and drive 2-3 off the blades |
| 19:19.08 | flyback | coupler |
| 19:45.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/58fc/zoom/ |
| 20:01.00 | jbevren | man |
| 20:01.20 | jbevren | with the price of large mmc's coming down, they need to release motherboards with onboard mmc jacks heh |
| 20:01.33 | prpplague | yea |
| 20:04.41 | jbevren | and not crap proprietary mmc controllers like the TI piece of sh/t in my laptop hehe |
| 20:04.57 | jbevren | ok fine, dont let me say bye |
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| 21:27.16 | sn9_ | quiet here, ain't it? |
| 21:29.28 | CosmicPenguin | we're hunting wabbits |
| 21:29.55 | sn9_ | but it's duck season |
| 21:30.22 | CosmicPenguin | well played |
| 21:30.40 | sn9_ | ? |
| 21:35.58 | sn9_ | lol |
| 21:36.40 | sn9_ | "quiet here, ain't it?" was my imitation of bugs bunny |
| 21:38.26 | sn9_ | the "?" was my wondering whether CosmicPenguin got that or is merely always elmer fudd |
| 21:39.02 | CosmicPenguin | well then - what every you say |
| 21:39.56 | sn9_ | huh? |
| 21:46.36 | sunrunner20 | ya'll are going to hate me |
| 21:46.47 | sunrunner20 | dad had to go to a convention for work |
| 21:47.02 | sunrunner20 | came back with XCs500E :p |
| 21:47.12 | CosmicPenguin | wtf is that? |
| 21:47.25 | sunrunner20 | spartan 3E dev board |
| 21:50.43 | sunrunner20 | http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?Prod=S3EBOARD&Nav1=Products&Nav2=Programmable |
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| 22:34.00 | sn9_ | is there a minimum version of gcc needed to build stuff with buildroot? |
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