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| 00:15.26 | prpplague | flyback: yea right |
| 00:15.50 | prpplague | flyback: the people on this island can kiss my shiny white ass |
| 00:22.11 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 00:36.20 | flyback | hehe |
| 00:51.36 | chouimat | http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5443036.html |
| 00:56.05 | prpplague | chouimat: holy cow |
| 00:59.11 | chouimat | prpplague: yup |
| 01:02.02 | CP|NotAtHome | what a wonderful system, our patent office is |
| 01:02.41 | prpplague | that it is |
| 01:02.55 | prpplague | i bet he licensed that to petco |
| 01:04.25 | chouimat | prpplague: CP|NotAtHome I never laughed so much |
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| 01:22.27 | prpplague | T0mW: hey crackbaby |
| 01:23.11 | T0mW | prpplague: I got it to run one of the example programs, I had the JTAG clock waaaaaayyyyy too fast, slowed that down and things are starting to work now. |
| 01:23.35 | T0mW | prpplague: nice to be able to see LEDs blink! |
| 01:24.52 | prpplague | hehe cool |
| 01:26.28 | T0mW | now that I got the RAM working, the Flash won't erase now. heh |
| 01:33.51 | T0mW | prpplague: well, I am learning a lot about the board. :) |
| 01:34.19 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:34.35 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, once you get used to the way its works, its really easy |
| 01:35.33 | T0mW | prpplague: always it, you just have to find which preconcieved ideas to discard |
| 01:35.46 | prpplague | hehe yep |
| 01:36.07 | T0mW | prpplague: a lot simpler to program the DRAM controller than some other chips I've seen |
| 01:36.20 | prpplague | yea, i thought so as well |
| 01:36.33 | prpplague | the controller on the sharp systems is pretty cryptic |
| 01:37.58 | T0mW | programming uboot now |
| 01:38.57 | T0mW | prpplague: it appears that littlechips does not get involved in their online forum. I've noticed a lot of messages directed to them on the forum are unanswered. |
| 01:39.07 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:39.12 | prpplague | T0mW: totally ignored |
| 01:39.20 | T0mW | ok, uboot is back now. YAY! |
| 01:39.21 | prpplague | T0mW: they just want to sell boards |
| 01:39.29 | prpplague | they aren't interested in software dev |
| 01:39.49 | T0mW | prpplague: I've got 2.6.17 booting on the board now, but it cannot find the cramfs yet. |
| 01:40.08 | T0mW | 2.6.17.8 |
| 01:41.59 | prpplague | cool |
| 01:42.16 | prpplague | might i suggest you look into using apex instead of uboot |
| 01:42.22 | T0mW | yeah |
| 01:43.07 | T0mW | prpplague: right after I save this bdi config someplace safe! |
| 01:43.18 | T0mW | :P |
| 01:44.38 | T0mW | prpplague: Idiot tech support at Ultimate Solutions didn't have a bdi for this board, so, then they direct me to a pdf which tells me that I need to boot the board, let it run, then use the JTAG to investigate what values I should use. |
| 01:45.31 | T0mW | I didn't bother telling them I bricked the board, heh |
| 01:46.12 | T0mW | I said "thank you!" so they could continue their warm + fuzzy feeling. |
| 01:46.28 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:46.43 | T0mW | have you debugged the kernel yet using a jtag? |
| 01:46.51 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:46.58 | prpplague | rarely need to though |
| 01:47.10 | prpplague | i usually have enough code to know whats going on |
| 01:47.14 | T0mW | prpplague: any pointers / gotchas I should know beforehand? |
| 01:47.30 | prpplague | naw |
| 01:47.45 | prpplague | T0mW: there are some good howtos on using kgdb |
| 01:47.47 | T0mW | what about the MMU? PA vs VA? |
| 01:47.52 | prpplague | T0mW: but i rarely need it |
| 01:48.07 | prpplague | T0mW: yea that can be a problem if you aren't used to it |
| 01:48.25 | prpplague | T0mW: what kind of stuff you think you are gonna need to debug in the kernel? |
| 01:48.36 | T0mW | the ramdisk thing finally got me bugged and I decided it was time to hook the jtag up to this board.... that is when all my problems started, heh |
| 01:49.01 | prpplague | whats wrong with the ramdisk? |
| 01:49.37 | T0mW | 2.6.17 doesn't recognize the 2.6.13 ramdisk image as a valid disk, or maybe the ATAGs don't point to it properly, They change the ATAG defs or something since 2.6.13? |
| 01:50.00 | prpplague | i would suspect that its the default command line that isn't correct |
| 01:50.01 | T0mW | that is the only thing I can figure out is an ATAG problem of some kind. |
| 01:50.15 | T0mW | mem=64M root=/dev/ram0 |
| 01:50.28 | T0mW | or, mem=64M root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc |
| 01:50.31 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, usually companies like littlechips don't bother using the correct methods for that |
| 01:50.39 | prpplague | T0mW: yep |
| 01:50.46 | prpplague | T0mW: no initrd args |
| 01:51.02 | prpplague | T0mW: so you'd need to pass it as an ATAG or a modified command line |
| 01:51.09 | T0mW | prpplague: their distro of uboot doesn't pass the mach-type value |
| 01:51.30 | prpplague | T0mW: yea they have it hard coded, they don't even have a registered number |
| 01:51.32 | T0mW | prpplague: they may not even have an ATAG, but stuck it in the kernel someplace |
| 01:51.42 | prpplague | T0mW: they use the samsung sdk board number |
| 01:51.54 | T0mW | they do now, "725 LN2410SBC" |
| 01:52.04 | prpplague | T0mW: oh yea? thats new |
| 01:52.15 | prpplague | did they actually register it? |
| 01:52.17 | T0mW | yeah, 2.6.17.8 has it in the mach-types.h |
| 01:52.23 | T0mW | somebody did |
| 01:52.41 | T0mW | search on LN2410 |
| 01:53.15 | T0mW | prpplague: Russell's support list is getting bigger,heh |
| 01:53.29 | prpplague | yep |
| 01:53.55 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe you see the M5900 and M7200 ? hehe |
| 01:54.09 | T0mW | no, what are those, yours? |
| 01:54.39 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:54.47 | T0mW | :D |
| 01:55.16 | T0mW | interesting when you goodle yourself and get 189K hits |
| 01:55.25 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:55.28 | T0mW | s/goodle/google |
| 01:55.52 | prpplague | well you might consider using apex, you gonna find it alot easier to work with than uboot |
| 01:56.01 | prpplague | and the atag issue is fixed, hehe |
| 01:56.14 | T0mW | I looked at an early version once. |
| 01:56.30 | prpplague | come along way since you looked at it for the sharp stuff |
| 01:56.53 | T0mW | prpplague: Oh, I finally understood the atags stuff when I was doing the zipit kernel. |
| 01:57.03 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:57.28 | T0mW | prpplague: well, the first payment on this project came in today, hustled that off to the bank. |
| 01:57.34 | prpplague | lovely |
| 01:57.50 | T0mW | now I can pay for some of the stuff I've been purchasing lately. |
| 01:57.54 | prpplague | beer and boobs, film at 11 |
| 01:58.03 | T0mW | :P LOL |
| 01:58.24 | T0mW | prpplague: the "staff of life" |
| 01:58.43 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:58.48 | T0mW | I would say that beer is cheaper |
| 01:59.04 | prpplague | anyway, the littlechips is nice, but the docs suck |
| 01:59.16 | prpplague | you can get alot done with it |
| 01:59.16 | T0mW | I will not argue with you there! |
| 01:59.50 | prpplague | do you want that parport jtag flash code? |
| 01:59.56 | prpplague | or you good with your bdi? |
| 01:59.57 | T0mW | I think it took me a half hour rummaging around on their CD before I said to myself "that's it?!" |
| 02:00.08 | prpplague | yea |
| 02:00.13 | T0mW | naw, bdi is working now. |
| 02:00.25 | prpplague | and they hacked the @#$ out the kernel for the board |
| 02:00.33 | T0mW | oh definately |
| 02:00.41 | prpplague | it didn't need 3/4 of the stuff there did |
| 02:00.55 | T0mW | I've been unmangling some of their stuff to get it on 2.6.17 |
| 02:01.32 | prpplague | i've got to get busy and submit some patches for the m5900 to the main tree |
| 02:01.46 | T0mW | BTW, the s3c2410 lcd routines are "in there", I just needed a simple __initdata struct to conditionally describe which LCD was on the unit. Not that hunk of code that they had. |
| 02:01.57 | prpplague | yea |
| 02:02.05 | T0mW | prpplague: I suspect that littlechips has done none of the kernel work. |
| 02:02.11 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, i know remember, i've already completed an entire project |
| 02:02.30 | T0mW | prpplague: I think that some user someplace hacked a kernel to run on the board and now they are shipping that source. |
| 02:02.48 | prpplague | hehe they did |
| 02:03.03 | prpplague | most of that came from a guy that sometimes drops by, mbuf |
| 02:03.11 | T0mW | lol |
| 02:03.14 | T0mW | ok |
| 02:03.22 | prpplague | T0mW: he's in india |
| 02:03.30 | T0mW | yes, I saw |
| 02:03.53 | T0mW | lot more embedded work coming out of india these days. |
| 02:04.44 | prpplague | no offense to anyone here from india, but "embedded work" isn't what i would call it |
| 02:05.03 | prpplague | T0mW: http://www.amltd.com/m5900.asp |
| 02:05.11 | prpplague | T0mW: big tada at LWCE tomorrow |
| 02:06.02 | prpplague | T0mW: wondering if it will make any of the reports from lwce , hehe |
| 02:06.30 | T0mW | heh |
| 02:08.53 | T0mW | threaten to go work for some other Bozos unless you get to mingle with your peers at those things. |
| 02:09.11 | prpplague | T0mW: naw, i have too many other benefits |
| 02:09.17 | prpplague | T0mW: i can't really complain |
| 02:09.28 | prpplague | T0mW: its just one of those icing on the cake items |
| 02:09.30 | T0mW | shrug |
| 02:10.02 | T0mW | they may be patting themselves on the back saying how cheaply they got you to work for them, heh |
| 02:10.09 | T0mW | btdt |
| 02:10.10 | prpplague | T0mW: i think when i get moved back i might say something but for now, i'm lucky they are so understanding with this visa crap |
| 02:10.33 | prpplague | T0mW: i think i'm well paid for what i do |
| 02:10.51 | T0mW | I worked for a company, thought I made a pretty good deal coming in, then overheard the boss + personell manager discussing how cheaply they got me to work for them. |
| 02:11.12 | prpplague | hehe yea that would suck |
| 02:12.00 | sunrunner20 | lwce? |
| 02:12.09 | prpplague | T0mW: i have lots of benefits though, the boss doesn't pester me much, he's an EE and generally understands issues |
| 02:12.18 | prpplague | sunrunner20: linux world conference and expo |
| 02:12.21 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 02:12.37 | sunrunner20 | my dad had to lecutre at a brazillian university ^_^ |
| 02:14.13 | T0mW | I am a half-inch away from Apex |
| 02:15.02 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 02:15.16 | sunrunner20 | xilix bilds a bomb in their softcores |
| 02:15.18 | sunrunner20 | and |
| 02:15.33 | sunrunner20 | one of the bigiest buyrs of softcores is a security company |
| 02:15.40 | sunrunner20 | well |
| 02:16.00 | sunrunner20 | they shiped an update of their security firmware |
| 02:16.07 | sunrunner20 | that was compiled in development |
| 02:16.09 | sunrunner20 | -_- |
| 02:16.10 | sunrunner20 | so |
| 02:16.11 | sunrunner20 | it died |
| 02:16.26 | sunrunner20 | and shut down my dad's office's security system |
| 02:16.33 | sunrunner20 | dad works for xilinx |
| 02:17.16 | sunrunner20 | i bet that company feels bad lol |
| 02:17.26 | T0mW | GAK! uboot will only run if I launch it from the jtag |
| 02:18.08 | T0mW | prpplague: I guess I should be happy that it runs,heh |
| 02:21.06 | T0mW | prpplague: no atag list for littlechips in their uboot |
| 02:21.19 | T0mW | prpplague: it must be hardcoded into the kernel as to the ramdisk loc. |
| 02:21.41 | T0mW | prpplague: where's apex? |
| 02:21.53 | T0mW | ~apex? |
| 02:21.55 | purl | i guess apex is a tiny arm bootloader done by marc singer, or http://projects.buici.com/apex/, or a hackable dvd player http://www.nerd-out.com/darrenk/ |
| 02:26.20 | [g2] | T0mW I've used APEX on the nslu2 |
| 02:33.30 | T0mW | [g2]: you use the openWRT? |
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| 02:43.10 | [g2] | T0mW not really for a couple years (but I've looked at compling it for XScale in the last month) |
| 02:44.19 | [g2] | wow how time flies it's almost 2.5 years since that |
| 02:45.18 | T0mW | heh |
| 02:45.20 | [g2] | T0mW I had the XScale openWRT version built, but it was BE |
| 02:45.36 | [g2] | I've been running LE for a long time now |
| 02:45.37 | T0mW | yeah, I started serious embedded work with linux about 6 years ago |
| 02:45.49 | [g2] | goes by quickly :) |
| 02:45.59 | T0mW | built my first uClinux system in 2000 |
| 02:46.01 | [g2] | internet treadmill |
| 02:46.10 | T0mW | s/built/designed |
| 02:47.13 | [g2] | T0mW btw did you see that announcement today about the adapter for the ds/ds-lite ? |
| 02:48.33 | T0mW | [g2]: naw, been too focused on this one project, just today I was catching up on my online comix |
| 02:51.14 | [g2] | http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/hacks/dsxtreme-plugnplay-ds-mod-194023.php |
| 02:51.59 | [g2] | T0mW so what do you want to use APEX for ? |
| 03:01.51 | T0mW | [g2]: http://www.littlechips.com/LN2410SBC_TFT.htm |
| 03:02.19 | T0mW | [g2]: I have a project with a March 31, 2007 deadline |
| 03:02.47 | [g2] | 03/07 that's forever away :) |
| 03:03.01 | [g2] | hell that's a full product cycle no ? |
| 03:03.22 | T0mW | ton of work to do, a major design. They have an older product that this will replace |
| 03:05.18 | T0mW | I've been harrasing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H bugging them about it for about 4 years now. Finally, they "saw the light", actually hit the Point of Diminishing Return with their current system. Ran out of Flash memory space, the whole thing is written in Assembler, old semiconductor technologies, a real mess! |
| 03:05.59 | [g2] | sound like a fun project |
| 03:06.02 | [g2] | sounds |
| 03:06.10 | T0mW | So, I've been talking to them about embedding linux into their product and finally, they said "do it" |
| 03:08.06 | T0mW | [g2]: it is, it is the culmination of a few years of investigative work and acquiring the necessary skillset. It can be a lot of fun. I don't think they are going to like the fact that the whole software system is going to be radically different from anything they have ever seen before(!): posix threads, devices (/dev), listener processes, etc. |
| 03:08.21 | T0mW | [g2]: they are more used to a single binary, proprietary code system. |
| 03:08.34 | T0mW | e.g. one ROM |
| 03:09.00 | T0mW | Their current system is 700K Flash + 512K of SRAM |
| 03:09.01 | T0mW | heh |
| 03:09.04 | [g2] | well it all depends on whether they want to sell hw or sw and who the target audience is |
| 03:09.13 | T0mW | Security |
| 03:09.17 | T0mW | Fire |
| 03:09.31 | T0mW | Property Protection and Life Safety |
| 03:10.42 | T0mW | [g2]: this unit would sit in a municipal police station monitoring the Burgler Alarm systems, or at a Central Fire Station listening to the fire alarm panels around the city. |
| 03:11.24 | T0mW | [g2]: don't ask me how I got started in this industry! Just that one day I needed a job... |
| 03:11.27 | T0mW | heh |
| 03:11.49 | T0mW | that was, what, 19 years ago |
| 03:15.23 | [g2] | that's cool |
| 03:15.58 | [g2] | is littlechips you company ? |
| 03:16.53 | T0mW | [g2]: NO! I don't do BGA stuff, heh |
| 03:17.25 | [g2] | what's wrong with BGA ? |
| 03:18.10 | T0mW | [g2]: I guess it is FUD on my part: I build my own boards. |
| 03:18.31 | T0mW | [g2]: I'm about ready to give it a try, you seen my toaster oven stuff? |
| 03:18.44 | davidc__ | bga is fine once you get used to it |
| 03:18.50 | T0mW | http://www.openhardware.net/Misc_Stuff/ToasterSMD/ |
| 03:18.51 | [g2] | no, unless it was at spark fun |
| 03:19.20 | T0mW | [g2]: that's what I'm doing now: TSSOP, LQFP |
| 03:20.00 | T0mW | they work really well, I am considering doing a junky multilayer board, get some bga chips and try them in the oven. Then see if they work. |
| 03:20.13 | T0mW | bbiab |
| 03:22.26 | [g2] | cool |
| 03:29.40 | MonMotha | doing BGAs reliably with a toaster oven is hard |
| 03:29.50 | MonMotha | you can do it, but it's hard to be sure if it all reflowed without the x-ray stuff |
| 03:31.02 | T0mW | MonMotha: agreed, but, one way to tell if it is going to work is to fire the board up, if I don't run... well... |
| 03:31.12 | T0mW | s/if I/if it |
| 03:31.35 | MonMotha | true |
| 03:31.49 | MonMotha | the issue is that some may be in contact without having actually flowed. Over time, they'll corrode |
| 03:32.19 | T0mW | MonMotha: I just want prototyping, I don't go in for manufacturing a lot of stuff. |
| 03:33.16 | T0mW | MonMotha: from what I've priced, it would cost me about $1300..$2000 to have BGA devices mounted on a prototype. |
| 03:34.17 | [g2] | it depends on the BGA devices |
| 03:35.05 | [g2] | obviously a 939 pin device is more expensive than a 93 pin device |
| 03:35.11 | T0mW | heh |
| 03:35.24 | T0mW | I wouldn't go that far, yet. |
| 03:36.54 | [g2] | T0mW you're not registered yet are you ? |
| 03:37.04 | [g2] | with freenode |
| 03:37.06 | [g2] | for PMs |
| 03:37.21 | T0mW | dunno |
| 03:37.37 | [g2] | you didn't get my last two messages did you ? |
| 03:38.32 | T0mW | I changed my nick, then changed back without identify-ing. |
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| 04:26.49 | CP|NotAtHome | whew |
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| 07:36.05 | T0mW | bah |
| 07:57.05 | MonMotha | ok, so ATTiny11 vs. Molex KK 0.1" 7 pin header with ramp. Guess which is more expensive |
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| 13:09.54 | sjhill | prpplague: good morning |
| 13:10.11 | prpplague | sjhill: hey hey |
| 13:10.18 | prpplague | sjhill: whats cookin today? |
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| 13:13.52 | sjhill | prpplague: kernel development |
| 13:14.00 | prpplague | sjhill: fun fun fun |
| 13:14.19 | sjhill | you? |
| 13:14.42 | prpplague | i'm suppose to be working on killing a few minor bugs with the M5900, and getting ready for the next phase of dev on the M7200, but i'm totally unmotivated today |
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| 13:21.23 | prpplague | sjhill: i really need to get busy and submit a bunch of kernel patches |
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| 13:23.15 | prpplague | wow there as a 40cent jump in the scox value yesterday right be the closing bell |
| 13:23.18 | prpplague | wonder why |
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| 13:24.39 | chouimat | prpplague: probably someone had a real an idea in the sco office |
| 13:24.56 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:25.18 | prpplague | chouimat: that shouldn't matter these days anyway, no one would crazy enough to partner up with them |
| 13:26.37 | chouimat | prpplague: not sure look someone patented the cat and the laser pointer :) |
| 13:27.48 | prpplague | yep |
| 13:28.00 | prpplague | makes me think of all the patents i could have gotten |
| 13:28.06 | chouimat | hehehe |
| 13:28.43 | prpplague | chouimat: i should have some great patents for "female human repelant" |
| 13:28.49 | chouimat | prpplague: LOL |
| 13:29.24 | prpplague | chouimat: or "intercourse preventative device" |
| 13:29.46 | chouimat | prpplague: you can have this one ... it's called aspirin |
| 13:29.50 | chouimat | s/can/can't |
| 13:30.30 | chouimat | prpplague: she have to put the device between her knees and the device must stay there until the morning or something like that |
| 13:30.47 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:32.42 | jbevren | just patent data entry via pushbutton grids |
| 13:32.56 | prpplague | hehe man |
| 13:33.07 | prpplague | the things our patent office allows |
| 13:33.53 | chouimat | prpplague: you just need to be vague enough in the description |
| 13:35.21 | prpplague | http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12SFO06A/exposition/exhibitorinfo//QMONYA04S8ZJ |
| 13:35.37 | prpplague | hehe i'm wondering if the M5900 will get any coverage? |
| 13:44.33 | prpplague | jbevren: http://www.barcodepower.com/m5900.asp |
| 13:44.49 | prpplague | jbevren: they finally have a posted price |
| 13:45.47 | prpplague | jbevren: wow our entire first production run is already sold |
| 13:47.09 | chouimat | prpplague: wow |
| 13:47.22 | jbevren | cool beans |
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| 13:48.29 | prpplague | hehe, i called the office to get them to send me a random sample off the production line, hehe, they informed me they couldn't because they'd all be accounted for on existing orders |
| 14:07.24 | MonMotha | prpplague: so ATTiny11 microcontroller vs. Molex KK 0.1" 7 pin header with ramp. Guess which is more expensive |
| 14:11.20 | chouimat | prpplague: saw this? http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Open_On-Chip_Debugger |
| 14:12.06 | prpplague | MonMotha: i give uo |
| 14:12.33 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, yea, i've just finished designing a usb jtag dongle using the ft2232 to work openocd |
| 14:13.05 | prpplague | chouimat: sent it off to the board house this morning |
| 14:13.53 | chouimat | prpplague: now I will be able to ditch the windows install ... only I was able to use my wiggler clone |
| 14:15.02 | prpplague | chouimat: ?? |
| 14:15.23 | prpplague | chouimat: why would you only have to use windows with your wiggler ? |
| 14:15.53 | chouimat | prpplague: wasn't able to get it working on linux ... |
| 14:16.06 | prpplague | chouimat: thats odd |
| 14:16.07 | chouimat | prpplague: and freebsd :) |
| 14:16.21 | prpplague | chouimat: should work fine |
| 14:16.22 | chouimat | prpplague: that was before I found openocd :) |
| 14:16.33 | prpplague | chouimat: i've never used anything but linux with my parport dongles |
| 14:17.10 | chouimat | prpplague: probably I screwed the install somewhere :) |
| 14:20.53 | MonMotha | prpplague: uo? |
| 14:21.12 | chouimat | MonMotha: probably islandese for up |
| 14:21.31 | prpplague | MonMotha: not really sick, just don't feel well |
| 14:21.32 | MonMotha | ah, indeed |
| 14:21.41 | prpplague | MonMotha: this visa stuff has me really depressed |
| 14:21.48 | MonMotha | prpplague: I just found it funny that the connector actually costs more than the micro... |
| 14:22.03 | MonMotha | even a qty. 10 vs. 1 |
| 14:22.24 | prpplague | MonMotha: hehe |
| 14:22.27 | prpplague | MonMotha: yea |
| 14:22.44 | prpplague | man never expected this visa stuff to take this long |
| 14:22.48 | MonMotha | to be fair, the tiny11 is a REALLY tiny micro |
| 14:24.37 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:24.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 14:25.31 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:32.45 | prpplague | my meeting at the consulate has been postponed |
| 14:32.51 | prpplague | crap for two weeks |
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| 14:34.02 | l33t_h4x0r | i kno more about computas than u all im da best hacker eva |
| 14:38.02 | prpplague | i see, and you make a nice legal living programming and hacking? |
| 14:38.17 | l33t_h4x0r | yup |
| 14:38.51 | prpplague | so why brag about it? |
| 14:39.04 | l33t_h4x0r | cos i can |
| 14:40.21 | prpplague | well you know what mark twain said, "its better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" |
| 14:40.28 | l33t_h4x0r | shush n00b |
| 14:41.04 | prpplague | hehe your funny, i need a good laugh today |
| 14:43.05 | flyback- | YOU STUPID CANUCK |
| 14:43.13 | prpplague | flyback-: hey |
| 14:43.15 | jbevren | flyback: last warning. |
| 14:43.21 | prpplague | flyback-: what i have i said!!! |
| 14:43.34 | prpplague | flyback-: enough of that, last warning |
| 14:43.35 | flyback- | hey I might as well go down trolling a troll ;) |
| 14:44.02 | jbevren | flyback: just because three lefts make a right doesnt mean two wrongs do |
| 14:44.23 | jbevren | hehe :D |
| 14:44.28 | flyback- | it doesn't matter anyways |
| 14:44.34 | flyback- | nothing will ever change |
| 14:46.25 | flyback- | like I am ever going to do anything anyways |
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| 14:48.47 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - what fun! |
| 14:49.11 | Redhatter | Did I miss anything? |
| 14:49.29 | l33t_h4x0r | i kno more about computas than u all im da best hacker eva |
| 14:49.36 | Redhatter | Hrmm... nope |
| 14:49.39 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:49.45 | jbevren | Redhatter: prp's scanner is sold out |
| 14:49.58 | CosmicPenguin | l33t_h4x0r: Do you have any proof? |
| 14:50.03 | flyback- | COME ON l33t_h4x0r i AM SUCIDAL ANYWAYS |
| 14:50.06 | flyback- | lets spar |
| 14:50.10 | Redhatter | CosmicPenguin, Nope... I asked him that the other day |
| 14:50.16 | prpplague | flyback-: chill |
| 14:50.21 | Redhatter | http://bin.longlandclan.hopto.org/data/20060813-214248-9488898b/body |
| 14:51.30 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:51.32 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:51.32 | CosmicPenguin | Good ol Ralf |
| 14:51.37 | prpplague | ralf cracks me up |
| 14:52.04 | Redhatter | l33t_h4x0r, You've got a few 'roos loose up top paddock... I'd quit while before your pride gets severely dented. |
| 14:52.37 | Redhatter | s/while// |
| 14:52.50 | l33t_h4x0r | roos? |
| 14:52.51 | l33t_h4x0r | stfu n00b |
| 14:52.53 | CosmicPenguin | roos loos up top paddock |
| 14:52.57 | CosmicPenguin | I love it |
| 14:53.09 | flyback- | wow we got a real winner here |
| 14:53.15 | Redhatter | It seems l33t_h4x0r isn't familiar with Australian marsupials |
| 14:53.18 | flyback- | I am going to get laid before l33t_h4x0r |
| 14:54.23 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:54.23 | flyback- | yeah that's what I thought |
| 14:54.33 | CosmicPenguin | Not eaxctly sure what he was looking for |
| 14:54.34 | *** mode/#edev [+b *!*l33t_h4x@*.as9105.com] by jbevren |
| 14:54.48 | jbevren | we can do without the damage to our S/N ratio |
| 14:55.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:55.13 | prpplague | Redhatter: welcome to #edev btw |
| 14:55.24 | Redhatter | prpplague, Thanks :-) |
| 14:55.24 | prpplague | well that cheered me up |
| 14:56.02 | CosmicPenguin | Those crazy brits |
| 14:56.07 | CosmicPenguin | you never know what they're going to do next |
| 15:06.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you have quick urls to the childrens laptops from vtech and others? |
| 15:07.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, any paritcular aspect of them you are looking for? |
| 15:07.26 | agaffney | I'll poke christel and see if I we can get a k-line on that guy |
| 15:07.49 | rgb_lmno | flyback, what's with your obsession with canucks? |
| 15:07.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: people keep spamming the OLPC wiki telling us what a great retail oppertunity the laptops are in the US |
| 15:08.01 | CosmicPenguin | And I'm tired of them - I want to prove them wrong |
| 15:10.08 | agaffney | ok, our l33t h4x0r friend has been k-lined |
| 15:10.47 | CosmicPenguin | not so leet anymore |
| 15:10.55 | agaffney | heh, nope |
| 15:12.08 | rgb_lmno | leet haxor appears to be from the uk, not .ca, so what's with the canuck crap? |
| 15:12.52 | agaffney | he's always calling people canucks |
| 15:12.59 | agaffney | that's just his "thing" |
| 15:13.47 | rgb_lmno | ok, so he got lucky when he called me that in a private message then, since I actually am one... |
| 15:17.07 | agaffney | hah |
| 15:19.46 | CosmicPenguin | He has convinced himself that its an innocent insult cum curse |
| 15:20.01 | CosmicPenguin | Along the same lines of frick and frack |
| 15:20.37 | Redhatter | In any case... he was neither intelligent nor creative |
| 15:21.02 | Redhatter | And if he wants to come back for more, I've got plenty of ammo where that last quote came from. |
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| 22:34.24 | prpplague | boo |
| 22:34.26 | prpplague | did i miss anything? |
| 22:34.28 | prpplague | man its hot as hell |