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07:22.00wxvorkHi. Anyone know of a spec.org equivalent for embedded cpus? I want to find out how a powerpc 440GP compares to an PXA270
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12:36.24T0mWjbevren: dave sleeping in today?
12:48.36chouimatmorning
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13:09.52T0mWhi chouimat
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13:56.19prpplaguehttp://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CES10196
13:56.28prpplaguei want one of those to see if can power some arm projects
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14:06.21jbevrenit probably could
14:07.49prpplaguejbevren: yea, it says it can use 3 AA batteries or the internal battery and the crank
14:08.01prpplaguejbevren: which leads me to believe its probably 3.3v based
14:08.16jbevrennod
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14:12.10jbevrenhaha
14:12.11jbevrenWell, whatever may or may not happen on the desktop, I sure would rather see Linux dominating the embedded market than Windows or Apple. The whole concept of embedded Windows seems ugly to me - like dressing up a nightclub bouncer in a pixie costume.
14:12.35prpplaguehehe
14:13.25jbevrenmager: Yep.  Thus my habit of collecting them heh
14:14.39chouimatjbevren: wow ... nice quote :)
14:14.54jbevrenchouimat: Thats from the recent /. story about macos, windows, and linux
14:15.12chouimatjbevren: I saw it but /. is scary so :)
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14:59.27jbevrenhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/76995231@N00/227099545
15:01.20CosmicPenguinhttp://www.crouse-house.com/albums/crousefam/Front_view.jpg
15:01.24CosmicPenguinnew family member
15:01.42jbevrencareful
15:01.46jbevrenthose things turn into dogs
15:01.56jbevrenand that'll be a big dog too
15:02.07CosmicPenguinonyl about 20 inches tall, actually
15:02.25jbevrenbig enough hehe
15:02.31CosmicPenguinShe wanted a beagle, I wanted a great pyrennes
15:02.35jbevrenI dont care for dogs, so dont mind me too much :)
15:02.44CosmicPenguinwe compromised
15:03.22CosmicPenguinMy wife had this stupid argument about how she didn't want a dog who's bowel movements were bigger then one of our cats
15:06.46jbevrenebay 220007046405
15:06.49jbevrenwth is that
15:08.22prpplaguewow, never seen something like that before
15:09.17CosmicPenguini860s.. :)
15:11.46jbevrenits crazy
15:21.24jbevrenGeorge W. Bush is ending public access to research materials at EPA regional libraries without Congressional consent.
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16:19.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: things looking better today?
16:19.26CosmicPenguinmeh
16:20.10prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, dog looks cute, (i like beagles too)
16:20.29CosmicPenguinits a shiba-inu
16:25.03prpplagueholy cow, a 14 year old boy who is only 24 inches tall
16:25.12prpplaguesorry 20 inches tall
16:25.30chouimatouch
16:26.45prpplaguethat sounds almost impossible
16:27.13chouimatprpplague: and life must be impossible for him too
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16:41.12CosmicPenguinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiba_Inu
16:41.17CosmicPenguinIn case anybody was interested in dogs
16:41.41mbufprpplague, howdy
16:42.36prpplaguembuf: greetings
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16:49.10mbufprpplague, officially part of Flextronics from Friday, hopefully will move away from USB into something interesting
16:49.49prpplaguembuf: and less evil
16:50.10mbufprpplague, hehe
16:50.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: lordy i'm stressed about friday
16:50.39mbufprpplague, started some work with kernel janitors, kinda interesting cleaning up the code
16:50.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i think i've had 10 cups of coffee today
16:50.57mbufCosmicPenguin, any feedback on the quilt tutorial that you are using at work ?
16:51.05mbufprpplague, phew!
16:51.12CosmicPenguinmbuf: not really - we've lost most of our workers
16:51.24prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i need to attach a magneto to my foot, i could be powering a small town with my foot
16:51.24mbufCosmicPenguin, ohh
16:52.08prpplaguembuf: CosmicPenguin is just about the only person in the building right now
16:52.22mbufprpplague, the man, the machine, the Penguin!
16:52.38prpplagueCosmicPenguin: slightly remenisent(sp?) of some colorado ghost mining towns
16:52.49CosmicPenguinheh
16:52.53CosmicPenguinstacks of PICs everywhere!
16:53.23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
16:54.00prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i've talked till my fast was blue to the schools here about using linux for thin clients and pc's
16:54.13prpplagueCosmicPenguin: the pic's would have been perfect for classroom stuff
16:54.44CosmicPenguinthats life
16:54.52prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea
16:54.53CosmicPenguinNow I'm working on another ambitious dream
16:55.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i seriously think someone here is getting kickbacks on the m$ software purchases
16:55.40prpplagueCosmicPenguin: "Now I'm working on another ambitious dream"? a frisbee golf proffessional league?
16:55.57CosmicPenguinoh, no
16:56.05CosmicPenguinI'm no where near talented enough to be part of that
16:56.11prpplagueCosmicPenguin: linux powered nose hair trimmer?
16:56.29CosmicPenguinhell - I'm praying for even par on my local course which averages -4 under par
16:57.28prpplaguei'm gonna be totally worn out by the time friday comes and goes
17:04.10chouimatwhat???? A man of 40 years who raped a 7 years girl more than one time while he knew he had aids only got 10 years of prison?????
17:05.11CosmicPenguinumm.. kay
17:05.59chouimatCosmicPenguin: sorry ... I'm watching the news ...
17:06.48mbufprpplague, for using the JTAG cable with the LN2410SBC from littlechips.com, is there any FLOSS software ?
17:08.30prpplaguembuf: there are a number of OSS applications that will work, jtag-tools, jtager, jflash, openocd
17:09.24prpplaguembuf: what kind of jtag cable are you using?
17:10.00mbufprpplague, i haven't used it, http://www.littlechips.com/jtag_cable.htm
17:10.46prpplaguembuf: do you have a schematic for the jtag cable?
17:11.14prpplaguembuf: that is rather expensive for a jtag cable
17:11.17mbufprpplague, let me check
17:11.30prpplaguembuf: that one costs about double what most of that type sell for
17:11.38mbufprpplague, i thought i'd learn some board bring-up, but, i don't have a debugger that is even so damn expensive
17:11.53prpplaguembuf: yea
17:11.58prpplaguembuf: openocd
17:11.59mbufprpplague, anyways, it was a gift from my cousin, who flew down from the US :-p
17:12.02prpplaguembuf: thats what you want
17:12.11prpplaguembuf: oh you already own it?
17:12.20mbufprpplague, yeah, its been lying idle, until now
17:12.40prpplaguembuf: ahh ok, well you should be able to use it with openocd, if you can find a schematic for it
17:12.52mbufprpplague, i'll have to check on the schematic
17:13.03mbufwhy is it a long weekend ?
17:13.15prpplaguembuf: ??
17:13.41prpplaguembuf: i don't understand what you are asking
17:13.44mbufchouimat, why is it a long weekend ? unless there are holidays
17:14.17prpplagueoh
17:14.33prpplaguechouimat: monday is a holiday in the united states
17:14.34chouimatmbuf: monday is holiday ... and I'm taking tomorrow and friday off ... I have to go to a family gathering in Eastern Quebec so ...
17:14.48mbufchouimat, ok
17:15.13prpplaguechouimat: i'm all for torture in those cases, i.e. the 40year old rapist
17:15.52prpplaguechouimat: personally he should be tortured for atleast 10 days before letting him die
17:16.33chouimatprpplague: you know what happens to those guy in prison so ... i'm not sure he will last that long ;)
17:17.53prpplagueyea
17:19.08prpplaguembuf: you won't be able to use the jtag cable unless you can find a schematic
17:19.28prpplaguembuf: you have to know which pins are used on the parallel port in order to configure the software
17:22.58mbufprpplague, i'll ask for tech support from the littlechips guyz
17:24.05chouimatprpplague: are you sure you will still be alive friday?
17:24.28mbufprpplague, i vaguely remember them giving me a CD along with it
17:25.13mbufprpplague, http://www.littlechips.com/jflash.htm
17:29.33mbufprpplague, ahh, got the CD
17:31.30prpplaguembuf: yea that version is for windows
17:31.37prpplaguechouimat: who knows
17:31.44prpplaguechouimat: i'm totally stressed out
17:32.40mbufprpplague, yes, there is a JFLASH_SCH.pdf schematic
17:34.01mbufprpplague, is this the one you mentioned? http://www.amontec.com/openocd.shtml
17:36.35prpplagueyea
17:36.49jbevrenthats the one I built
17:36.59jbevrenthe 50-ohm resisors are important :)
18:00.50chouimat-12 USD
18:01.42prpplaguehehe
18:02.10prpplaguechouimat: i'm willing to bet that they made less than 2million for this quarter
18:06.17mbufprpplague, installed openocd :) had to use automake-1.9
18:09.47mbufprpplague, time to read some documentation, do you have a sample openocd.cfg file ?
18:09.58prpplaguembuf: should be one included
18:10.48mbufprpplague, i don't see any
18:11.29prpplaguembuf: try looking in docs/configs
18:11.50mbufprpplague, yeah, i need to catch some sleep
18:27.09prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'm a total nervous wreck worring about friday
18:27.24prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i can't get anyone on the phone at the consulate who knows a @#$@#$ thing
19:15.36CosmicPenguinprpplague: idiots
19:18.29prpplaguechouimat: thanks
19:19.11chouimatprpplague: speaking of beer ... I think I will leave soon for the pub ... and go pay the monthly bills too :(
19:19.17chouimathttp://www.dilbert.com/
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21:24.20jbevrenhttp://www.serasidis.gr/circuits/smscontroller/smscontroller.htm
21:40.11CosmicPenguinhttp://www.nikkeibp.co.jp/news/flash/511504.html
21:40.13CosmicPenguinheh
21:47.31jbevrenits a beanie!
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22:34.54CosmicPenguinhttp://talkingegg.com/humor/bunny50.jpg
22:34.59CosmicPenguinWith sharp pointy teath
22:40.35prpplague"ARM architecture is different from the x86 system. Usually, you need some sort of software supports. For some products (SBC, Computer on Module, Embedded Box Computer), we set minimum orders in order to best support our valued customers. If you need try and evaluate our products first, you could get our evalation kit first with supports."
22:43.27CosmicPenguinhah
22:44.46youamCosmicPenguin: that's an 403 for me
22:45.21prpplagueCosmicPenguin: same for me
22:45.28prpplagueCosmicPenguin: thats from the Embedian web site
22:45.49CosmicPenguinI guess I'm just cooler then the rest of you
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23:46.43chouimatARRRRRRGGGGGGGG ... %^#^#^#&#&#^# marketing drones!!!!

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