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| 10:36.48 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:23.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 14:23.29 | CosmicPenguin | hey |
| 14:33.38 | jbevren | yet again, a company fails to check their own sdk |
| 14:33.47 | jbevren | I cant even make dep on gamepark's kernel |
| 14:33.51 | jbevren | using gamepark's compiler |
| 14:35.51 | jbevren | heh |
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| 14:48.17 | T0mW | good morning |
| 14:49.18 | CosmicPenguin | oh, yeah? |
| 14:50.48 | jbevren | oh |
| 14:50.59 | jbevren | and now it wont build due to a syntax error in the source |
| 14:51.00 | jbevren | gah. |
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| 15:40.39 | prpplague | graywolf9x6: greetings |
| 16:34.38 | CosmicPenguin | RP tells me that mallum is a father |
| 16:34.55 | jbevren | WHY GOD WHY?! hehe |
| 16:39.23 | chouimat | http://www.srisc.com/ <---- cool |
| 16:43.07 | jbevren | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS4310115400.html (same core, different article) |
| 16:43.30 | philv | Barf, SPARC |
| 16:43.40 | philv | Spork |
| 16:43.43 | jbevren | philv: it -could- be x86 |
| 16:43.55 | jbevren | or 'a high speed risc processor that executes x86 instructions' |
| 16:44.02 | jbevren | why would people even bother :) |
| 16:47.10 | chouimat | philv: the core is GPL so stop complaining ... ask intel and amd to gpl theirs ;) |
| 16:48.35 | philv | The RTL is pretty atrocious :| |
| 16:48.54 | philv | Dunno though, a GPL core isn't very useful to me. |
| 16:50.22 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:50.32 | CosmicPenguin | if you saw the geode code, you would run in terror |
| 16:51.22 | philv | CosmicPenguin: is AMD a VHDL or Verilog house? |
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| 18:25.46 | prpplague | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5201088922.html |
| 18:26.26 | CosmicPenguin | 700? |
| 18:26.28 | CosmicPenguin | denied |
| 18:26.44 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:27.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: plus its only available to someone who has licensed the qpe4 sdk |
| 18:34.35 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:35.21 | CosmicPenguin | I bet it would take you no less then a month to get sugar into buildroot |
| 18:37.12 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:39.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you use sugar? |
| 18:39.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, eventually I will have to make sure it works |
| 18:41.01 | CosmicPenguin | its hard to do a compelling OLPC demo without sugar |
| 18:42.19 | CosmicPenguin | the multithreaded bitbake is nice |
| 18:46.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've never used it before |
| 18:47.14 | ynezz | btw whats sugar? |
| 18:47.49 | prpplague | ynezz http://sourceforge.net/projects/mems/ |
| 18:48.21 | CosmicPenguin | oh, you are way off |
| 18:48.22 | CosmicPenguin | heh.. :) |
| 18:49.20 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:49.30 | prpplague | didn't realize that was the name of the environment |
| 18:49.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: a couple people at the office use Sugar for doing some sim stuff |
| 18:49.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats what i thought you were refering to |
| 18:50.27 | CosmicPenguin | you know better then that |
| 18:51.13 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 18:51.20 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not a hardware guy |
| 18:51.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what repo are you guess using for most of the OLPC stuff? git ? |
| 18:51.44 | CosmicPenguin | git exclusively |
| 18:53.29 | prpplague | the sugar build process looks interesting |
| 18:54.07 | CosmicPenguin | assuming you don't cross compile |
| 18:54.26 | CosmicPenguin | because the X and gnome guys can't figure out why anybody in their right mind wouldn't be compiling code on a 4Ghz box with 2 terabytes of memory |
| 18:55.10 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:55.12 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:55.55 | prpplague | interesting stuff |
| 18:57.05 | CosmicPenguin | very kid like |
| 18:57.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you consider me a "hardware guy" ? |
| 18:57.28 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 18:57.51 | prpplague | funny |
| 18:58.48 | prpplague | just that i've never thought of myself as a "hardware guy" |
| 18:59.01 | CosmicPenguin | definately |
| 19:01.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just wish i'd finished my college |
| 19:01.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got my transcripts the other day |
| 19:02.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gonna try and finish up with the piss-ant classes that i lack |
| 19:03.37 | chouimat | prpplague: the greenphone come with the "community edition" of qtopia4 |
| 19:03.43 | chouimat | as an option |
| 19:04.27 | prpplague | chouimat: yea but you can't even buy the phone without the license |
| 19:04.54 | prpplague | chouimat: or atleast thats how i read it |
| 19:05.55 | prpplague | "However, availability is limited to licensees of QPE 4 SDK" |
| 19:07.45 | philv | Where can I get this Greenphone? |
| 19:08.01 | philv | My company has QT licenses |
| 19:08.25 | prpplague | philv: i assume you can call trolltech |
| 19:09.02 | philv | Bah I hate the phone |
| 19:09.45 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:25.44 | jbevren | heh |
| 19:25.50 | jbevren | vendor lockin |
| 19:34.51 | prpplague | jeeze - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?s=562e463c6069ad2712b82045ec34dc0f&showtopic=31655 |
| 19:36.05 | prpplague | oh and this one is good - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?s=562e463c6069ad2712b82045ec34dc0f&showtopic=31659 |
| 19:36.22 | prpplague | they did a follow up on that one and they said if they hadn |
| 19:36.34 | prpplague | they did a follow up on that one and they said if they hadn't gotten the interview, ins was gonna deport |
| 19:36.39 | prpplague | so so so lame |
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| 19:48.44 | T0mW | GPSFan: ping |
| 19:48.52 | chouimat | GRRR |
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| 20:13.57 | jbevren | sunlight readable olpc? |
| 20:14.03 | jbevren | I want a sunlight readable laptop :( |
| 20:14.13 | jbevren | I want to sit outside and tan while I work :) |
| 20:15.27 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/phone_edition/greenphone/greenphone_pricing |
| 20:15.55 | CosmicPenguin | jbevren: I'll see to it that you don't get an OLPC |
| 20:15.57 | CosmicPenguin | consider it done |
| 20:16.55 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: I'm not a child, so I dont get one |
| 20:16.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, that wasn't made very clear in the PR |
| 20:18.12 | philv | Damn |
| 20:23.21 | jbevren | http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/12/1912236&from=rss |
| 20:23.25 | jbevren | we STILL USE THOSE POS'ES? |
| 20:23.33 | jbevren | good god, just give it up and go back to paper |
| 20:24.06 | chouimat | :) |
| 20:24.27 | philv | jbevren: they are the best method of rigging an election, so it ain't gonna happen |
| 20:26.03 | philv | http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=196396&cid=16091350 |
| 20:26.04 | chouimat | jbevren: I totaly agree with him http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=196396&cid=16091141 |
| 20:26.10 | philv | This comment proves how dumb people on Slashdot are |
| 20:26.21 | philv | chouimat: me too |
| 20:26.26 | philv | I counted in the last election |
| 20:26.35 | philv | It is very specific what is an X and what isn't, and when a ballot is fouled |
| 20:26.44 | philv | etc., etc. |
| 20:27.04 | philv | I think for fucking that up they could do everything up to execution (but not quite reach that, thank Bog) |
| 20:27.05 | chouimat | philv: at least here in Canada we have a standard ballot :) |
| 20:27.20 | philv | That's true |
| 20:31.29 | philv | Actually, our system here is astoundingly well done. |
| 20:36.39 | chouimat | later |
| 21:39.56 | GPSFan | T0mW: pong.. |
| 21:41.24 | jbevren | poing? |
| 21:41.24 | jbevren | hehe |
| 21:57.25 | GPSFan | T0mW: ping |
| 22:04.38 | T0mW | GPSFan: hey Ken, any reason you can think of why the SPI MMC driver for the Zipit should be a module only? |
| 22:06.03 | GPSFan | T0mW: not really, I took a stab at re-compiling your 1.2 buildroot, and made a few changes, including the laatest mmc driver which has the improved throughput code in it. |
| 22:06.37 | T0mW | GPSFan: I'm moving that stuff over to OE, I have it building a bootable kernel. |
| 22:06.55 | T0mW | GPSFan: there is another driver? |
| 22:06.57 | GPSFan | T0mW: you should be able to include it in the kernel, load the kernel from flash, maybe with an initrd, then run userspace from themmc. |
| 22:07.16 | GPSFan | yeah, check the yahoo files section. |
| 22:07.57 | T0mW | GPSFan: yeah, I was thinking of doing away with the Flash filesystem image altogether and boot from the MMC |
| 22:08.12 | T0mW | keep the kernel in Flash, but root=/dev/mmc1 |
| 22:08.42 | GPSFan | T0mW: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/files/MMC/mmc-multi/ |
| 22:10.01 | T0mW | fscking Yahoo password crap anyway |
| 22:11.21 | GPSFan | T0mW: I also had a go at the wireless driver, <sigh> finally got the Aeronix patch applied to the 7.22 version of the driver. Fixed the segfaulting, but ran into somewhat of a stone wall trying to load the firmware into the wifi hardware. |
| 22:12.06 | T0mW | heh |
| 22:14.29 | T0mW | GPSFan: was that mmc driver in the KM8 patches? |
| 22:16.35 | GPSFan | T0mW: the driver validates which version of the firmware the hardware thinks it can support and the version idedtifiers are the same in the old driver and my new driver, but the hardware seems to be reporting that it is incompatible with the firmware. I stepped through the hardware interface code and what the hardware sends to the driver as its version compatibility signature. |
| 22:16.56 | GPSFan | T0mW: no it was after km8. |
| 22:17.55 | GPSFan | s/signature/signature doesn't match what is in the driver. ATM I'm stuck trying to think of what to do next. |
| 22:21.10 | GPSFan | T0mW: here are some of the changes to your buildroot, as well as the new mmc driver. |
| 22:21.59 | T0mW | GPSFan: try again, I was watching a steak cook |
| 22:23.13 | GPSFan | mmmm steak... |
| 22:23.24 | T0mW | wierd, maybe I need to password in again |
| 22:23.29 | T0mW | nope |
| 22:23.39 | T0mW | tom@openhardware.net |
| 22:23.51 | T0mW | GPSFan: mailto:tom@openhardware.net |
| 22:23.53 | T0mW | heh |
| 22:24.10 | T0mW | GPSFan: trust me, it will take a few meg email, heh |
| 22:24.35 | T0mW | GPSFan: thanks |
| 22:24.57 | GPSFan | it's small.. |
| 22:26.07 | GPSFan | T0mW: it's 3 replacement patches, 303, 304, & 319 |
| 22:29.21 | GPSFan | T0mW: that's just for the kernel, your ramdisk image is full of cruft, like man pages, 2 copies of the sudo/sudoedit binaries, visudo.... |
| 22:32.30 | T0mW | heh |
| 22:33.36 | T0mW | GPSFan: yeah, I know, I was just happy to get a booting kernel built. The goal is to create a workable system, that's why I was looking at OE instead of trying to shrink the ext2 flash image. |
| 22:38.01 | GPSFan | T0mW: the kernel that it builds now is 570k, which is just about what my old buidl system built. However, I haven't tested it on the real hardware yet. I also got your new zpm code running on my linux box. AH! no more windows.. |
| 22:38.54 | T0mW | GPSFan: yeah! Having a complete linux uploader for the images was definately a goal. |
| 22:39.00 | T0mW | time to eat, cul |
| 22:39.40 | GPSFan | T0mW`food: cu, gotta run out for a while too... |
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