| 00:36.21 | *** join/#edev chouimat (n=dieu@kde/developer/chouinard) |
| 01:32.40 | *** join/#edev chouimat|Zzzz (n=dieu@r2351064.cidc.net) |
| 02:31.33 | *** join/#edev leoncamel (n=leoncame@219.238.107.107) |
| 03:56.13 | *** join/#edev redb1ue (i=star@ppp039.108-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca) |
| 05:16.13 | *** join/#edev linac (n=lin@59.61.126.104) |
| 10:40.06 | *** join/#edev redb1ue (i=star@ppp102.108-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca) |
| 10:57.25 | *** join/#edev infoclog (n=viktough@217.110.19.202) |
| 10:57.50 | infoclog | hi all.. i want to design a datalogger with a ARM7 Board. |
| 10:58.17 | infoclog | does anyone have any idea, how does one proceed further |
| 11:18.26 | *** join/#edev [g2] (n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2) |
| 11:59.49 | *** join/#edev leoncamel (n=leoncame@219.142.186.3) |
| 12:15.01 | *** join/#edev linac (n=lin@222.47.30.14) |
| 12:39.38 | *** join/#edev EvilDevil_ (n=miau@p54A6DF64.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:56.30 | *** join/#edev GPSFan (n=kenm@12.10.255.248) |
| 12:56.30 | *** mode/#edev [+o GPSFan] by ChanServ |
| 13:37.45 | *** join/#edev tuxmaniac (n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac) |
| 13:49.46 | *** join/#edev prpplague (n=billybob@216.110.117.117) |
| 13:50.31 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 13:52.53 | *** join/#edev sjhill (n=sjhill@eth13.com-link.com) |
| 13:53.35 | prpplague | sjhill: hey hey |
| 13:53.54 | prpplague | sjhill: how goes the battle? |
| 13:55.28 | *** join/#edev CosmicPenguin (i=nobody@nat/amd/x-8dbb7e0e8354c721) |
| 13:55.29 | *** mode/#edev [+o CosmicPenguin] by ChanServ |
| 13:55.36 | sjhill | prpplague: pretty good |
| 13:55.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 13:55.55 | sjhill | i have to head to a meeting, but i'll bbi 1 hour |
| 13:55.57 | sjhill | hey CosmicPenguin |
| 13:56.03 | prpplague | sjhill: okie dokie |
| 13:56.09 | CosmicPenguin | hi |
| 13:59.44 | chouimat | hi prpplague CosmicPenguin sjhill |
| 13:59.54 | philv | oh hi all |
| 14:00.02 | philv | There's a lot of mipslinux people in here |
| 14:00.29 | prpplague | philv: is there? |
| 14:00.44 | prpplague | philv: i think you and sjhill are the only two i know of |
| 14:00.54 | prpplague | oh wait, CosmicPenguin used to do alchemy |
| 14:01.08 | philv | CosmicPenguin yeah |
| 14:01.37 | philv | I wanted to meet a bunch of people at OLS... stupid bloody work prevented that |
| 14:01.54 | prpplague | yea i didn't get to go this year either |
| 14:02.12 | prpplague | already had the plane ticket too |
| 14:02.21 | philv | I was there for one day |
| 14:02.36 | philv | Then I got a call because of some emergency meeting at work because someone fucked something up |
| 14:02.42 | philv | And I got to unfuck it for the rest of the week |
| 14:02.46 | philv | ;_; |
| 14:02.50 | philv | I have birdflu today :( |
| 14:02.58 | prpplague | doh |
| 14:04.26 | prpplague | philv: i used to have a sign hanging above me desk at my former employer, "Dave's Janitorial Service, Specializing in excrement cleanups, and small fire cleanups" |
| 14:04.38 | philv | Hahaha |
| 14:04.40 | prpplague | philv: boss made me take it down |
| 14:04.46 | philv | Aw :( |
| 14:05.04 | chouimat | prpplague: some people don't have any sense of humor ... |
| 14:05.21 | prpplague | chouimat: nope |
| 14:05.58 | philv | My cube is so empty at work |
| 14:06.05 | philv | I don't know how people can stand all the clutter they have in them |
| 14:06.09 | philv | It'd drive me crazy ! |
| 14:06.35 | prpplague | chouimat: i went to the local fast food burger place a couple of weeks ago and tried to order 600 burgers, the girl behind the counter had no sense of humor at all |
| 14:07.00 | prpplague | philv: i'm a clutter person |
| 14:07.20 | prpplague | philv: i tend to have piles of stuff |
| 14:07.27 | philv | I'm a clutter person too... as long as it's out of sight... it's really bizarre. |
| 14:07.33 | philv | Hehe |
| 14:07.39 | prpplague | hehe, yea |
| 14:07.41 | philv | But some people have like... fountains |
| 14:07.46 | philv | And trinkets galore |
| 14:07.48 | prpplague | philv: paper is what collects on my desk |
| 14:07.50 | philv | It's frightening |
| 14:07.54 | philv | :| |
| 14:07.56 | philv | Hehe |
| 14:08.11 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe ... the one I like is when you get in a restaurant and they ask you a table for 3? I always say: no 124 ... the others are not here yet ;) the look on their face priceless ;) |
| 14:08.31 | philv | chouimat: haha |
| 14:08.32 | prpplague | philv: most excellent book - http://www.amazon.com/Organizing-Creative-Person-Right-Brain-Conquering/dp/0517881640/sr=8-1/qid=1158156481/ref=sr_1_1/102-1511857-5468935?ie=UTF8&s=books |
| 14:08.49 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe yea |
| 14:09.37 | prpplague | chouimat: or they ask "would you like a table?" and i go "nope, just wanted to come in a stand in this hallway, its such a nice hallway...." |
| 14:09.39 | philv | Hehe cool |
| 14:09.47 | chouimat | prpplague: LOL |
| 14:10.29 | chouimat | prpplague: My brother once answered to this one: Since I'm planning to get shit faced can I skip the table and be server in the washroom |
| 14:11.02 | chouimat | s/server/served |
| 14:11.13 | prpplague | chouimat: HA |
| 14:11.39 | prpplague | philv: http://www.amazon.com/Search-Stupidity-High-Tech-Marketing-Disasters/dp/1590591046/sr=1-1/qid=1158156658/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-1511857-5468935?ie=UTF8&s=books |
| 14:12.01 | chouimat | prpplague: they didn't found it funny ... wonder why :) |
| 14:12.13 | prpplague | philv: i bought that, after reading it i realized that my employeer at the time was making alot of the same mistakes |
| 14:12.24 | prpplague | philv: so i bought an extra copy to give to my boss |
| 14:12.33 | philv | Haha |
| 14:12.36 | philv | SMart or not? |
| 14:12.55 | prpplague | philv: when he saw the title of the book, hey screamed at me to get out of his office |
| 14:12.57 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:13.16 | philv | Hahahahahahahahhahaha |
| 14:14.32 | chouimat | LOL |
| 14:14.33 | prpplague | philv: this guy had a degree in communications from an ivy league college. once i told him something like "we need to spec sheet for the protocol, without a rosetta stone for this protocol, there is no way we can convert it over to our inhouse stuff" to which he asked "whats a rosetta stone?" |
| 14:15.47 | philv | Oh my |
| 14:15.51 | philv | I'd hit him. |
| 14:16.01 | philv | GOod thing my superior doesn't even know I exist ;) |
| 14:16.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe this is the same guy that asked if "picogui" was something new on the menu at tacobell |
| 14:16.20 | CosmicPenguin | I love picogui on my burrito |
| 14:16.44 | chouimat | guys can you stop talking about food |
| 14:16.48 | prpplague | philv: yea i eventually quit from there |
| 14:17.20 | prpplague | philv: he was taking alot of my work and then presenting it as his own, which he then got major bonus's for |
| 14:17.37 | philv | This is why I like working for a large corporation |
| 14:17.47 | philv | prpplague: was his name Lutful Kahn? |
| 14:18.05 | prpplague | philv: hehe, sorry no |
| 14:18.27 | philv | Lucky you |
| 14:18.35 | philv | I worked for that douchebag last year |
| 14:18.55 | philv | If I ever see him again I will wring his scrawny little neck |
| 14:19.00 | chouimat | philv: when I was at xandros the Boss ask me to write a personal firewall "that should work like zonealarm" ... and I spent 5 months trying to explain that in linux a firewall is not an application but more like a device driver ... anyway in the end we agreed that my views and those of the company weren't compatible so they let me go :) |
| 14:20.08 | philv | Oh Xandros -_- |
| 14:20.28 | chouimat | philv: let just say you don't want to go there ... |
| 14:21.08 | philv | I'll tell you though, Xandros has nothing on this guy... this guy was on a crusade to prove that he was the only right person in the world |
| 14:21.11 | philv | ANd everyone else was wrong |
| 14:21.32 | philv | Which got hilarious, because he chewed me out for using OSPF because it was "vulnerable" in one product and "inferior" |
| 14:21.36 | chouimat | philv: sound like the Boss there ... |
| 14:22.18 | philv | And when I asked him for his input, he proposed a deterministic routing scheme based on congestion... route on free link... but i called it "The Packet Ring of Doom" |
| 14:22.38 | philv | Or 'the ring where your packets leave only when their ttl expires' |
| 14:22.51 | chouimat | ouch |
| 14:22.51 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:22.53 | philv | Suffice to say, he got sued into the ground by his venture capitalists, so all's well that ends well |
| 14:23.07 | chouimat | philv: nice |
| 14:23.15 | philv | Didn't ship a single product in 3 years, yet burnt through a few million dollars. |
| 14:23.49 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 14:24.01 | chouimat | philv: that the problem of venture capital ... you get money but you also get a lot of strings |
| 14:24.35 | philv | And of course, whenever I suggested something he said was wrong (I'm pretty passive in that regards, so not in a threatening way) he'd yell and scream and talk about how he has been in telecomm since the beginning and was the greatest at Nortel... of course, after meeting one of his managers at Nortel coincidentally, turns out they didn't even trust him to deal with test results |
| 14:24.51 | prpplague | chouimat: its not nessarilly the strings being a problem,its that usually they are tied around some private parts, hehe |
| 14:24.59 | philv | chouimat: I'd never take VC unless I was on extremely solid ground |
| 14:25.00 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 14:25.03 | philv | hahaha |
| 14:25.51 | philv | to me though if anyone falls back on the "I've been in the industry for 15 years, so you know nothing" argument, they've invalidated everything they've said, and invalidate anything they say in the future, hehe |
| 14:26.11 | chouimat | philv: when I was at xandros 95% of the money came from VC ... they only had around 6000 registered users ... and they think they produce the best distro :) |
| 14:26.33 | philv | bah |
| 14:26.41 | philv | None of the Xandros people I know actually use Xandros anyways |
| 14:27.28 | chouimat | philv: yup I was developing on my iBook using gentoo :) |
| 14:28.23 | chouimat | they want to compete with windows but they use XP for management and UI design .... |
| 14:28.56 | philv | Hah |
| 14:28.59 | philv | Oh well |
| 14:29.08 | philv | It's the thought that counts I suppose :/ |
| 14:29.10 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, that always drives me nuts when a company does that |
| 14:29.49 | chouimat | philv: try to implement the UI from a JPEG created with Photoshop :) |
| 14:30.24 | philv | hahaha |
| 14:30.30 | philv | At least they didn't send it to you as a PSD ;) |
| 14:31.44 | philv | I'm glad Nortel is relatively sane. |
| 14:31.52 | chouimat | philv: we showed them Qt designer ... but it wasn't good enough for them |
| 14:31.53 | philv | Except the policy towards Cisco |
| 14:32.02 | philv | Hah |
| 14:32.04 | chouimat | philv: nortel still exist ? |
| 14:32.14 | philv | Yes |
| 14:32.22 | philv | Getting stronger too, might I add |
| 14:32.31 | chouimat | cool |
| 14:32.57 | philv | Nortel wouldn't go anywhere, even if we shrunk back to BNR sizes. |
| 14:33.07 | philv | Too strong of a foothold in telecomm |
| 14:33.49 | chouimat | I know ... |
| 14:38.16 | jbevren | nod, the name's too big |
| 14:38.35 | jbevren | Ive been pondering getting a pair of nortel r7200s to play with sdsl |
| 14:38.36 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:40.23 | philv | I've got some DMS-100/500 parts kicking around :/ |
| 14:47.12 | *** join/#edev ccjoe (i=clrsrv@www.clearcore.com) |
| 15:08.23 | [g2] | with busybox on an ARM platform I'm running 2.6.16 kernel booting directly to an ash shell with ttyS0 @ 115200n8 |
| 15:08.53 | [g2] | all works 99% well, but there's an issue with the console commands being 1 character behind what I type |
| 15:09.14 | [g2] | do I need to set getty to a rate or does the Linux kernel already handle that ? |
| 15:10.59 | prpplague | [g2]: that sounds odd |
| 15:11.23 | prpplague | [g2]: normally i use a inittab entry to start the getty , which includes baud rate setting |
| 15:12.11 | [g2] | prpplague I may add an inittab |
| 15:12.28 | [g2] | but for a change I'm doing something on a tiny rootfs :) |
| 15:12.49 | [g2] | ZipIt like |
| 15:12.58 | [g2] | meaning just one app |
| 15:23.08 | prpplague | [g2]: the other method is to set the baud rate by using some other method before kicking off the application |
| 15:23.24 | prpplague | [g2]: but the fact that it is one character behind sounds odd |
| 15:23.33 | prpplague | [g2]: like the uart controller is misconfigured |
| 15:23.36 | [g2] | prpplague init=/bin/ash |
| 15:23.43 | [g2] | there's not a lot before that :) |
| 15:23.47 | prpplague | [g2]: bootloader |
| 15:23.50 | prpplague | [g2]: kernel |
| 15:24.07 | [g2] | right, it's Redboot and a 2.6.16 kernel |
| 15:24.24 | [g2] | console=ttyS0,115200n8 |
| 15:24.27 | prpplague | [g2]: then just add some code in your "fixup" section to set the baud |
| 15:24.32 | prpplague | [g2]: ahh |
| 15:24.40 | prpplague | [g2]: that should be fine then |
| 15:24.46 | [g2] | nod... :) |
| 15:24.57 | [g2] | but that's the difference between theory and practice :) |
| 15:25.04 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:25.26 | [g2] | it works 99% of the time just one char behind |
| 15:25.27 | prpplague | [g2]: does it work properly using a different kernel and rootfs? |
| 15:25.53 | [g2] | it's just when I'm booting to the jffs2 |
| 15:26.05 | [g2] | and running the console via ash |
| 15:27.09 | prpplague | [g2]: hmm, sounds like an interesting issue |
| 15:27.35 | prpplague | [g2]: if it were me, i'd try isolating the problem, by testing the different components |
| 15:31.41 | [g2] | I'd just look at the _exact_ timing on the TX/RX |
| 15:34.29 | prpplague | [g2]: sounds to me that you have something creating a problem in the driver/enduser area |
| 15:34.57 | prpplague | [g2]: try setting your console to =/dev/null |
| 15:35.13 | prpplague | oh wait you aren't using init |
| 15:35.17 | prpplague | sorry scratch that |
| 15:35.53 | [g2] | prpplague one other interesting thing is I get the "can't access tty" message |
| 15:39.08 | prpplague | [g2]: yea, that normally occurs when you are using a tty(in this case /dev/console) that doesn't have the same controlling terminal |
| 15:39.43 | [g2] | right I'm guessing busybox isn't fully happy with ttyS0 as the console |
| 15:40.11 | prpplague | [g2]: running busybox init with a small inittab would probably be a better choice, you can still run a single app like ash, just gives you better control |
| 15:40.18 | jbevren | mr_c: ask on #slayradio |
| 15:40.41 | prpplague | ~lart jbevren |
| 15:41.18 | jbevren | wot |
| 15:41.21 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:42.03 | philv | ~insult |
| 15:42.35 | prpplague | philv: i don't think we've taugh purl that |
| 15:44.54 | philv | ~philv |
| 15:44.57 | purl | i guess philv is jesus |
| 15:45.44 | jbevren | not THE all powerful, but rather his poser son |
| 15:45.57 | philv | lorf |
| 15:52.53 | jbevren | I am the son of God. Ow! dont pound that nail through my hand, I cant get free! ergh! |
| 15:52.56 | jbevren | ok I'll stop now. |
| 15:53.00 | jbevren | :) |
| 15:53.11 | jbevren | although I dont believe they used nails |
| 15:53.18 | jbevren | it was more likely large wooden spikes |
| 15:53.22 | philv | THey used horses |
| 15:53.29 | jbevren | nono, that was in london |
| 16:00.23 | sjhill | s3c2410 |
| 16:00.28 | sjhill | anyone ever work with that? |
| 16:00.52 | jbevren | isnt that whats in the juicebox? |
| 16:00.52 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:00.59 | prpplague | sjhill: yea you could say that |
| 16:01.13 | sjhill | i'm trying to understand the uart initialization |
| 16:01.14 | jbevren | guess not :) |
| 16:01.38 | prpplague | sjhill: its pretty straight forward, you looking at bootloader or kernel code? |
| 16:01.42 | jbevren | sjhill: random tip, make sure you have the port multiplexor set so that the lines are actually rs232 and not gpio :) |
| 16:01.43 | sjhill | kernel |
| 16:02.02 | sjhill | arch/arm/mach-s3c2410/devs.c |
| 16:02.07 | prpplague | sjhill: which kernel version? |
| 16:02.23 | sjhill | 2.6.17.4 |
| 16:02.36 | sjhill | struct platform_device *s3c24xx_uart_devs[3] |
| 16:02.50 | sjhill | i am absolutely baffled how that array every gets initialized |
| 16:02.55 | sjhill | specifically the .name member |
| 16:03.53 | sjhill | ah |
| 16:03.56 | sjhill | sob |
| 16:04.00 | sjhill | i just found it |
| 16:04.13 | jbevren | sjhill: ask and you shall figure it out on your own :) |
| 16:04.50 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe |
| 16:05.16 | sjhill | platform_device and platform_driver are a bit confusing to me |
| 16:05.28 | sjhill | man, i've been out of circulation too long |
| 16:05.30 | prpplague | sjhill: yea, i have similiar problems with that |
| 16:05.45 | prpplague | sjhill: you got a s3c2410 device you are working with? |
| 16:05.48 | sjhill | no |
| 16:05.54 | sjhill | i was using it as a reference |
| 16:05.57 | prpplague | ahh |
| 16:05.58 | sjhill | for my serial driver |
| 16:06.05 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:06.10 | sjhill | my probe function is not being called |
| 16:06.15 | sjhill | now i know why |
| 16:06.20 | sjhill | i didn't have a platform_device registered |
| 16:06.35 | prpplague | sjhill: ahh ok |
| 16:07.06 | prpplague | sjhill: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5552849613.html |
| 16:07.13 | prpplague | sjhill: first of our s3c2410 based devices |
| 16:07.43 | jbevren | prpplague: is that your juicebox with the TSOP socket on it? |
| 16:07.53 | jbevren | http://elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBoxSerial?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=jbclose.jpg |
| 16:07.56 | sjhill | very nice |
| 16:08.02 | jbevren | oh |
| 16:08.04 | jbevren | cant click that link |
| 16:08.07 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:08.08 | prpplague | jbevren: naw, thats someone else |
| 16:08.57 | sjhill | man |
| 16:09.00 | sjhill | i was missing a lot of crap |
| 16:09.08 | sjhill | well, here goes the rest of my day |
| 16:09.19 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe, that s3c2410 driver was done by ben dooks, he did a really nice job |
| 16:09.27 | sjhill | yes he did |
| 16:12.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats this http://www.crouse-house.com/gallery/pr0n ???????? |
| 16:13.31 | jbevren | haha prpplague |
| 16:14.29 | prpplague | sjhill: you planning to submit a paper for OLS next year? |
| 16:19.26 | philv | Whose blog is "Crouse House" |
| 16:20.28 | philv | Well, whoever it is, I voted they stay in their condo in Mexico |
| 16:21.14 | *** join/#edev redb1ue (i=star@ppp212.108-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca) |
| 16:21.20 | prpplague | philv: hehe thats CosmicPenguin |
| 16:21.53 | philv | Oooh, right |
| 16:22.08 | philv | CosmicPenguin: you needed "stay in the condo all day and all night and IRC" |
| 16:28.06 | sjhill | prpplague: not yet |
| 16:28.18 | sjhill | prpplague: i haven't come up with anything interesting to present |
| 16:41.09 | prpplague | sjhill: okie dokie, was just curious |
| 16:41.31 | prpplague | sjhill: i've had something prepared for like 4 years in a row to submit and chicken out at the last minute |
| 16:45.06 | prpplague | wow someone just dumped 7k of scox stock |
| 16:53.29 | philv | Daytrader probably |
| 16:54.40 | jbevren | haha |
| 16:54.47 | jbevren | hehe j/k |
| 16:55.32 | philv | I remember people buying NT stock right as it was collapsing, thinking 60 dollars per share was a bargain |
| 16:55.36 | philv | I still laugh at them |
| 16:57.51 | jbevren | heh |
| 16:58.01 | jbevren | I pondered buying some worldcom after the reorg |
| 16:58.12 | jbevren | but Ive never traded stock, so I have no idea how to even start :P |
| 16:58.28 | philv | I own 0 stock |
| 16:58.35 | philv | I'm far too cynical |
| 16:59.02 | philv | Good to see the markets coming back to life though |
| 16:59.05 | philv | I hate the summer |
| 16:59.59 | [g2] | prpplague can you pastebin a really tiny inittab ? |
| 17:00.23 | prpplague | [g2]: sure, i can grab a generic one from buildroot |
| 17:00.59 | [g2] | THX |
| 17:02.44 | prpplague | http://pastebin.ca/169093 |
| 17:02.58 | prpplague | [g2]: pretty generic and commented |
| 17:03.17 | [g2] | nod |
| 17:03.41 | [g2] | I was reading something almost identical at http://buildroot.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/buildroot/target/generic/target_skeleton/etc/inittab?rev=9902&view=markup |
| 17:04.00 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:04.27 | [g2] | I think I just may need to find where the config for getty is hiding |
| 17:04.32 | [g2] | (in the busybox config) |
| 17:05.06 | prpplague | [g2]: why's that? |
| 17:05.30 | [g2] | Login/Mgmt .. Because there currently no getty :) |
| 17:05.45 | prpplague | [g2]: ahh your busybox wasn't built with getty? |
| 17:05.57 | [g2] | no it's _really_ tiny |
| 17:06.02 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:06.06 | [g2] | like 10 applets :) |
| 17:06.09 | prpplague | [g2]: well just do this |
| 17:06.33 | prpplague | ttyS0::respawn:/bin/ash |
| 17:06.45 | prpplague | that should do ok for you |
| 17:06.49 | [g2] | Ok I'll try |
| 17:07.29 | prpplague | [g2]: assuming ttyS0 is the serial port you are using |
| 17:08.08 | [g2] | nod that's the serial port |
| 17:08.33 | prpplague | [g2]: ok then just put that in your inittab all by itself |
| 17:09.04 | [g2] | that's what I did and now the console is fine. |
| 17:09.35 | [g2] | I get a minor failure :) |
| 17:09.43 | philv | [g2]: you should go to OLS and make good on that. |
| 17:09.51 | [g2] | Failed to execute /bin/init. Attempting defaults... |
| 17:10.00 | [g2] | philv next summer right ? |
| 17:10.07 | philv | Yeah |
| 17:10.08 | prpplague | [g2]: what "init=" arg are you using? |
| 17:10.13 | philv | End-of-July-ish |
| 17:10.31 | [g2] | philv nod I almost made it this year |
| 17:11.02 | philv | I ended up getting to only the first day of it, because of work :( |
| 17:11.05 | [g2] | well not enough to live there :) |
| 17:11.20 | philv | Haha |
| 17:11.28 | [g2] | the tulips are quite nice in May/June |
| 17:11.41 | philv | Yup yup |
| 17:12.01 | philv | There's some good stuff to check out here the first time you visit... otherwise, it gets boring |
| 17:12.01 | [g2] | init=/bin/init |
| 17:12.28 | prpplague | [g2]: is there a link from /bin/init to busybox? |
| 17:12.34 | philv | chouimat: haha, likewise, I'm right now teleworking, so I'm close to Algonquin College (since my apartment is next to it...) |
| 17:12.38 | [g2] | prpplague doubtful :) |
| 17:12.57 | prpplague | [g2]: what about a linuxrc in / |
| 17:13.25 | chouimat | philv: I working from home too and if I look outside I see the Bayshore Shopping Center and the coliseum :) |
| 17:14.05 | [g2] | prpplague there is no linuxrc |
| 17:14.07 | philv | Haha, I bus past that area every day, normally |
| 17:14.17 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.18 | [g2] | I rebuilt busybox with [*]init |
| 17:14.49 | philv | chouimat: ouch :| |
| 17:14.58 | chouimat | philv: new neighbors |
| 17:14.59 | [g2] | prpplague the kernel is probably defaulting into /sbin/init |
| 17:15.32 | philv | chouimat: double-ouch... they seem to be remodelling the apartment next to mine, so I just get to hear lots of power tools :| |
| 17:15.44 | prpplague | [g2]: yea, if you built busybox with init, thats where the symlink should be there |
| 17:16.13 | prpplague | [g2]: should be able to no even specify the "init=" and it boot ok |
| 17:16.17 | chouimat | philv: I hope they will enjoy the album I just put on the sound system (My Dying Bride latest one) |
| 17:16.42 | prpplague | [g2]: you doing this with the zipit? |
| 17:16.52 | philv | Hahahaha |
| 17:17.01 | [g2] | prpplague actually it's on the Loft |
| 17:17.47 | [g2] | I'm creating a very small rootfs in flash to be able to load and pivot_root on to a squashed Debian FS from CF |
| 17:18.06 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:18.35 | [g2] | there will be a couple images and the small rootfs will be able to pick and choose accordingly |
| 17:18.55 | [g2] | s/couple images/couple images on the CF/ |
| 17:19.21 | [g2] | and maybe even phone home if the CF images are not happy |
| 17:21.01 | T0mW | sjhill: you working with S3C2410? |
| 17:32.04 | *** join/#edev tuxmaniac (n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac) |
| 17:32.33 | sjhill | T0mW: no, using it as a reference for my own driver |
| 17:32.56 | T0mW | sjhill: ok |
| 17:35.15 | *** join/#edev chouimat (n=dieu@kde/developer/chouinard) |
| 17:35.21 | prpplague | sjhill: i'm sure i would some people disagree with me but...., right now where pxa/xscale stuff is in the new alot and seems to be hot, its the samsung processors that really starting to pick up interest and are being used in lots of projects |
| 17:36.54 | prpplague | "Several shots were fired inside a downtown Montreal, Canada, college today and initial reports suggest at least two people were injured, news agencies report." |
| 17:37.18 | philv | Hasn't hit the newswire here yet |
| 17:37.29 | philv | But, Montreal tends to have a lot of that happen |
| 17:37.48 | philv | As long as the 3 letters FLQ don't come up, we're okay |
| 17:37.49 | prpplague | "Police believe a suspect has barricaded himself inside a building after shooting as many as four." |
| 17:38.38 | prpplague | philv: suspect - "they deserved it!!! they made me use PowerPoint for my project!!" |
| 17:38.53 | philv | haha |
| 17:38.58 | philv | more like |
| 17:39.05 | philv | "VIVE LA QUEBEC LIBRE!" or something :| |
| 17:39.15 | prpplague | hmm |
| 17:47.32 | prpplague | call me a ruthless bastard but i would have had no problems firing on them - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213641,00.html |
| 17:49.39 | *** join/#edev infoclog (n=viktough@217.110.19.202) |
| 17:49.52 | infoclog | can anyone explain what a bSP4.2CE ius |
| 17:52.24 | sjhill | prpplague: me too |
| 17:52.38 | sjhill | prpplague: it sucks, the terrorists bomb funerals and shoot people...why are we so nice again? |
| 17:55.26 | chouimat | http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/13/shots-dawson.html |
| 17:58.39 | jbevren | chouimat: that guy needs to lay off his quake3 |
| 17:59.57 | sjhill | *sigh* |
| 18:00.06 | prpplague | infoclog: well you would need to give us some kind of context where it is used, i can only guess that a BSP is a board support package |
| 18:00.27 | prpplague | sjhill: agreed |
| 18:00.28 | chouimat | jbevren: actually there was 2 shooting |
| 18:00.37 | prpplague | sjhill: not like they observ and restraint |
| 18:00.37 | sjhill | prpplague: can you think of any reason that my device probe function is not being called even after registering the uart, registering the platform devices for both uarts and finally registering the platform device? |
| 18:01.15 | infoclog | prpplague: but why does it have to be BSP4.2CE.. wht has windows to do with a ARM Board ? |
| 18:01.33 | jbevren | infoclog: winxp embedded has an arm target |
| 18:01.52 | prpplague | sjhill: no, i can't think of any reason off the top of my head |
| 18:02.06 | prpplague | sjhill: never ran across a problem like that before |
| 18:03.11 | infoclog | prpplague:i want to buy a Philips ARM board, and it comes along with certain softwares like BSP4.2CE. I want to know, basically what does the BSP do |
| 18:03.31 | prpplague | sjhill: i'd check to see if maybe there was a misplaced ifdef or something that is causing a logic error |
| 18:04.00 | prpplague | infoclog: uh, why are you asking us? ask the people you are buying the board from |
| 18:04.34 | infoclog | prpplague:becuase its a general question, not specific to the vendor |
| 18:04.41 | prpplague | infoclog: sounds specific to me |
| 18:05.18 | prpplague | infoclog: url of the vendor? |
| 18:05.19 | infoclog | prpplague: sounds good.. thanks for the info. now i can ask them. |
| 18:05.28 | *** part/#edev infoclog (n=viktough@217.110.19.202) |
| 18:05.59 | chouimat | philv: sound like there is more than 1 shooter |
| 18:06.12 | sjhill | hmmm, too bad they didn't hit infoclog |
| 18:06.20 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, is infoclod asking the same question in elinux? |
| 18:06.36 | chouimat | prpplague: and oe too ... |
| 18:06.36 | philv | chouimat: oh, interesting |
| 18:06.43 | chouimat | philv: ak-47 |
| 18:07.07 | chouimat | prpplague: he wants to use a LPC2148 based board |
| 18:07.27 | prpplague | so.... i thought you couldn't get guns in canada these days |
| 18:07.38 | philv | chouimat: huh |
| 18:07.45 | chouimat | prpplague: they probably get them in Texas :) |
| 18:07.50 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe |
| 18:07.52 | sjhill | good one |
| 18:08.26 | philv | chouimat: at least it isn't Ecole Polytechnique again :| |
| 18:08.39 | prpplague | chouimat: no self respecting texan would buy an ak-47, we want a nice ar-15 from mattel |
| 18:08.53 | chouimat | prpplague: ? |
| 18:09.06 | prpplague | <chouimat> prpplague: they probably get them in Texas :) |
| 18:09.19 | chouimat | philv: at least the shooters were politicaly correct they shooted anybody :) |
| 18:10.03 | philv | Haha |
| 18:10.08 | chouimat | brb need to change the tv channel ... now they are just getting clueless and repeating again the same crap ... /me hates live coverage |
| 18:12.17 | prpplague | sjhill: let me pull up the s3c2410 driver again and see if i see any points of potential breakage |
| 18:13.13 | philv | Anyone here happen to have taken apart a Juniper NetScreen? |
| 18:15.05 | prpplague | sjhill: can you tell if the registering of the platform and driver is actuall occuring? |
| 18:15.32 | sjhill | yeah, i'm looking at that |
| 18:19.53 | sjhill | prpplague: here's what i have: |
| 18:20.06 | sjhill | uart_register_driver(&sjh_uart_drv); |
| 18:20.20 | sjhill | platform_add_devices(serial_sjh_devices, 2); |
| 18:20.33 | sjhill | platform_driver_register(&serial_sjh_driver); |
| 18:21.18 | sjhill | my probe function specified in my 'serial_sjh_driver' structure never gets called |
| 18:21.32 | sjhill | i would have expected the probe to be called right after making the call to platform_driver_register |
| 18:22.39 | sjhill | doesn't happen |
| 18:23.04 | sjhill | i have another driver, watchdog timer, that registers itself and its probe function gets called right after platform_driver_register |
| 18:23.08 | sjhill | darn frustrating |
| 18:23.39 | prpplague | hmmm |
| 18:23.41 | prpplague | odd |
| 18:25.08 | [g2] | prpplague know any hw designers ? |
| 18:26.16 | sjhill | prpplague: none of the calls fail either, i check all return codes |
| 18:27.18 | philv | I have a high-end design so elaborate it will not fit on this die. |
| 18:28.41 | [g2] | T0mW ever design with the SAM7s ? |
| 18:29.43 | prpplague | sjhill: hmm, bear with me here.... since i don't have a copy of your code, what do you have for your module_init() ? |
| 18:29.58 | sjhill | that was my module_init |
| 18:30.00 | sjhill | those calls |
| 18:30.12 | sjhill | only 3 of em' |
| 18:30.29 | prpplague | sjhill: oh |
| 18:35.14 | sjhill | i'm instrumenting the entire 'drivers/base' subsystem now by turning on debug messages |
| 18:36.49 | sjhill | yay! |
| 18:36.49 | T0mW | :D |
| 18:36.49 | T0mW | new toyz |
| 18:38.19 | prpplague | sjhill: i'm sorry d00d, just not seeing anything that jumps out as a break point |
| 18:39.06 | T0mW | sjhill: 2G PCR3200 DDR |
| 18:39.42 | jbevren | <- 4G pc2700 DDR :) |
| 18:40.20 | T0mW | jbevren: heh |
| 18:40.44 | jbevren | T0mW: I got an opteron 147 system |
| 18:40.58 | T0mW | jbevren: well, I just need to get email + surf the web with it, ..., NOT! |
| 18:40.59 | jbevren | I run it on a passively cooled motherboard with a pair of passively cooled nvidia cards hehe |
| 18:41.05 | sjhill | T0mW: that's great |
| 18:41.07 | sjhill | i only have 1GB |
| 18:41.09 | jbevren | but yeah |
| 18:41.12 | jbevren | I'd love your cpu |
| 18:41.13 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.15 | sjhill | i need to bump up to 4 or 8gb |
| 18:41.23 | T0mW | anyone else have the AMD X2 here? |
| 18:41.28 | sjhill | nope |
| 18:41.34 | sjhill | i have (2) opteron single cores |
| 18:41.43 | T0mW | was just wondering |
| 18:41.44 | sjhill | but fortunately my mb will take X2s |
| 18:41.53 | sjhill | it should, for the price i paid for it |
| 18:41.54 | T0mW | sjhill: two of them? |
| 18:42.09 | T0mW | 8-) |
| 18:42.09 | sjhill | yeah, i bought a dual socket opteron board, tyan |
| 18:42.13 | philv | Heh, I paid 87 bucks for my motherboard... it takes X2s though :D |
| 18:42.25 | T0mW | muhwahahaha |
| 18:42.27 | jbevren | mine's some gigabyte gamers board |
| 18:42.31 | sjhill | i can plug X2s into it essentially giving me 4 procs |
| 18:42.33 | jbevren | I just got it cause it has no fans :0 |
| 18:42.38 | sjhill | heh |
| 18:42.49 | philv | It's a cheap-o MSI board with the ATI chipset |
| 18:42.54 | philv | HARDKORE |
| 18:43.04 | sjhill | heh |
| 18:43.33 | T0mW | now, the problem that remains is who do I gift my Athlon 3.3G m'board to? |
| 18:44.03 | prpplague | sjhill: hey can you pastebin your platform driver struct with the .probe section? |
| 18:44.11 | jbevren | some poor family member thats still on a k6/450 |
| 18:44.51 | T0mW | jbevren: my Mom does not that board! |
| 18:45.24 | T0mW | jbevren: she is running a old P-II 350 that she and my sister stole from me |
| 18:45.34 | T0mW | laptop |
| 18:45.47 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:45.54 | jbevren | my niece was stuck on a k6/450 for years |
| 18:45.58 | T0mW | of course, my Mom runs Linux |
| 18:46.03 | jbevren | I gave her a celeron-t 1300 for her birthday :) |
| 18:46.06 | T0mW | hehee |
| 18:46.09 | jbevren | quite a step from 64M to 512M too |
| 18:46.15 | T0mW | yeah |
| 18:46.21 | jbevren | her computer's faster than her mom's heh |
| 18:46.34 | jbevren | and cost me $200 in hardware (hers was $700) |
| 18:46.46 | jbevren | I keep telling them to let me upgrade their systems |
| 18:46.52 | jbevren | shrug |
| 19:02.52 | prpplague | sjhill: btw, _finally_ got my wife's visa, should be heading back to the states soon |
| 19:05.18 | jbevren | prpplague: congrats |
| 19:05.26 | prpplague | thanks |
| 19:05.30 | CosmicPenguin | I am surrounded by idiots |
| 19:05.50 | chouimat | this is a great song |
| 19:06.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: really? you work with barbra streisand and jane fonda |
| 19:06.24 | CosmicPenguin | Probably |
| 19:06.29 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't seen the phone list lately |
| 19:23.19 | *** join/#edev redb1ue (i=star@ppp023.109-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca) |
| 19:45.44 | *** join/#edev redb1ue (i=star@ppp065.110-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca) |
| 20:17.51 | *** join/#edev davidc__ (n=davidc@72.169.118.173) |
| 20:21.15 | sjhill | prpplague: wow, congrats! |
| 20:21.22 | prpplague | thanks |
| 20:21.33 | davidc__ | hmm? |
| 20:21.38 | davidc__ | what happened prpplague ? |
| 20:22.00 | prpplague | davidc__: my wife finally got her visa/greencard for the states, so we will be moving back soon |
| 22:04.20 | T0mW | darned SATA crap anyway |
| 22:28.42 | jbevren | Woot :) |
| 22:29.12 | jbevren | tiamat:~# DISPLAY=:0 xdpyinfo |grep dim |
| 22:29.12 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.14 | jbevren | hehe :D |
| 22:39.18 | agaffney | o_O |
| 22:39.30 | agaffney | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.32 | agaffney | :( |
| 22:39.58 | CosmicPenguin | root@geodegx-olpc:/usr/bin# fbset |
| 22:39.59 | CosmicPenguin | mode "1200x900-51" |
| 22:39.59 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.59 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.59 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.59 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.01 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.03 | CosmicPenguin | endmode |
| 22:40.05 | CosmicPenguin | Yay! |
| 22:45.29 | philv | What's the video display device on the OLPC? |
| 22:47.14 | CosmicPenguin | eh? |
| 22:47.49 | philv | What drives the OLPC display? |
| 22:48.32 | *** join/#edev Karo-sam (i=karosa@nilus-1755.adsl.datanet.hu) |
| 22:49.11 | CosmicPenguin | oh - the DCON |
| 22:49.28 | CosmicPenguin | the geode thinks the LCD is directly attached, but there's magic between it and the display |
| 22:49.49 | philv | Ah |
| 22:49.51 | sunrunner20 | o.0 |
| 22:49.59 | sunrunner20 | who uses SD in a digi camera... |
