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| 11:18.02 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
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| 11:27.09 | abdahl | i kno more about computas than u all im da best hacker eva |
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| 11:40.49 | prpplague | glad we cleared that up |
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| 13:43.56 | flyback | mode +cmt ? |
| 13:44.04 | flyback | yeah you are prpplague |
| 13:44.09 | flyback | :P |
| 13:44.27 | prpplague | flyback: uh how did you get in here? |
| 13:44.51 | flyback | gotta love tons and tons |
| 13:44.52 | flyback | and tons |
| 13:44.56 | flyback | of virtul hosts |
| 13:45.12 | flyback | but I only came here to pay soem respect for lilo |
| 13:45.16 | flyback | don't worry |
| 13:45.20 | flyback | not hanging around :) |
| 13:45.24 | prpplague | flyback: there is another channel for that |
| 13:45.44 | flyback | yeah I know but I wanted to talk to you for a second |
| 13:45.57 | prpplague | flyback: about what? |
| 13:46.05 | flyback | can't remeber right now |
| 13:46.08 | flyback | just woke up |
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| 13:46.22 | prpplague | oops |
| 13:46.27 | *** mode/#edev [-b help!*@*] by prpplague |
| 13:47.21 | flyback | anyways after I remeber wtf it was then i'll ask and scoot |
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| 13:56.50 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 13:56.56 | prpplague | chouimat: hey |
| 13:57.11 | chouimat | prpplague: house cleaning? |
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| 13:57.58 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, seems flyback snuck back in |
| 13:58.06 | prpplague | chouimat: my ban wasn't very good |
| 13:58.25 | chouimat | prpplague: I'm getting ready for tomorrow afternoon ... nice little interview |
| 13:58.35 | prpplague | chouimat: ahh |
| 13:59.12 | chouimat | prpplague: I'm allready starting to be nervous :) |
| 13:59.40 | prpplague | chouimat: yea i usually don't get nervous until i walk in the door |
| 14:00.45 | chouimat | prpplague: let just say I have 1 hours and 30 minutes of bus time to get there :) and one bus seems to be every hour so ... |
| 14:01.02 | prpplague | chouimat: doh |
| 14:01.10 | prpplague | chouimat: the joys of mass transit |
| 14:02.19 | chouimat | prpplague: yup ... the company is based in gatineau so I have to take 2 different companies :) |
| 14:06.27 | chouimat | prpplague: the fun thing is if I get this job I will play with linux and freescale cpus ... |
| 14:06.40 | prpplague | chouimat: cool |
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| 14:47.28 | antics | can anyone explain, or point me to an explaination, of how usb gadget drivers work |
| 14:47.54 | antics | i'm trying to understand how to interface usb dongles (wifi, BT...) to a net2272 |
| 14:48.42 | antics | it's a usb device controller (not a host controller) but it seems that you can use gadget drivers to make it talk to other usb devices |
| 14:52.40 | prpplague | antics: gadgets only talk to host devices |
| 14:53.12 | prpplague | antics: basically a usb gadget makes a computer, like a pda, appear to be something else, like a network interface, rs-232 device, or mass storage device |
| 14:55.18 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:55.28 | jbevren | like gamepark's handhelds use usb_gadget |
| 14:55.34 | youam | can i make an host device act like an usb gadget or is there a hardware limitation? |
| 14:55.48 | jbevren | most usb cards can't do that |
| 14:56.02 | prpplague | youam: no, host devices can;t do that |
| 14:56.25 | jbevren | you can get -gadget- cards, but theyre more expensive than just getting network gear :) |
| 14:56.46 | youam | why not? jbevren sounds like it's an implementation limit, prpplague sounds like it's an specification limit *-) |
| 14:57.05 | jbevren | host devices, being your standard usb card, cant do it |
| 14:57.57 | prpplague | youam: you can do a driver for just about anything on a usb host, but no one really does |
| 14:58.07 | prpplague | youam: what instance would you want to? |
| 14:59.36 | prpplague | youam: its stricly implementation limit |
| 15:00.09 | youam | i'd like to build a computer which would present itself e.g. as an usb-storage device, and it'd be great if i could use normal pc hardware for that |
| 15:01.28 | antics | jbevren: the gp2x can accept keyboards, mice...does it take usb dongles like a BT device? |
| 15:02.17 | prpplague | youam: that would take alot of work to do with a usb host |
| 15:02.21 | jbevren | antics: If you rebuild the kernel, yeah. It has a standard USB port hidden in its EXT connector (12Mbit, not 480) |
| 15:02.34 | prpplague | youam: usb slave would be much easier |
| 15:02.43 | antics | the usb controller is a net2272 though and that is not a host controller |
| 15:02.54 | antics | that is where i get hung up |
| 15:03.08 | prpplague | antics: slave to slave doesn't work |
| 15:04.11 | antics | prpplague: that is how i read it. that is why i don't understand how you can use a USB keyboard with the gp2x |
| 15:04.21 | youam | prpplague: well, I've not yet R any FM, so I'll just remember it's somehow possible, but hard, until i get around looking into it. thanks! |
| 15:04.22 | antics | prpplague: i know you can, i just don't understand why |
| 15:05.49 | antics | jbevren: do you know how the usb devices connect to the gp2x? |
| 15:06.02 | jbevren | I have a gp2x |
| 15:06.14 | jbevren | you can get a usb extension for the ext port |
| 15:06.17 | antics | right. i don't mean physical connection |
| 15:06.32 | antics | i have the cable. my interest is in the net2272, not the gp2x |
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| 15:06.52 | antics | i'm just using it as an example because i know it uses that chip and supports devices |
| 15:07.16 | antics | i want to use the net2272 in a blackfin computer but not if it can't accept devices |
| 15:07.28 | jbevren | 2272's a gadget controller |
| 15:07.45 | antics | jbevren: so gadgets can talk to gadgets? |
| 15:07.56 | jbevren | gadgets talk to hosts |
| 15:07.58 | jbevren | hosts talk to gadgets |
| 15:08.16 | jbevren | this is why firewire is far superior :P |
| 15:08.31 | prpplague | antics: a gadget is nothing more than a usb slave device pretending to be a specific functionality |
| 15:08.32 | jbevren | that said, I havent seen any firewire mice |
| 15:08.33 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.20 | philv | Haha, a Firewire mouse would be nontrivial |
| 15:09.35 | philv | You could DMA all the tracking info :O |
| 15:09.50 | antics | is it logical to think that you could plug a usb keyboard directly into the gp2x? i.e. thru the BoB |
| 15:10.25 | jbevren | It's logical that you can plug any linux-supported usb device into the gp2x's host port |
| 15:10.51 | antics | so is the host controller internal to the SoC |
| 15:10.55 | jbevren | yeah |
| 15:11.01 | antics | a seperate chip from the net2272 |
| 15:11.01 | jbevren | as is a 12Mbit gadget controller |
| 15:11.03 | antics | ah |
| 15:11.07 | prpplague | antics: http://www.hackaday.com/2006/02/12/gp2x-usb-host-mode/ |
| 15:11.11 | antics | that is the part i missed on the wkii |
| 15:11.11 | jbevren | the 2272's just there to get usb2.0 |
| 15:11.12 | antics | wiki |
| 15:11.31 | prpplague | antics: the gp2x has both a host and slave controller |
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| 15:11.39 | antics | i was under the impression that there was only the netchip |
| 15:11.45 | antics | er plx chip |
| 15:12.23 | antics | thank you. that clears up all of my confusion from the last few days |
| 15:21.53 | jbevren | heh |
| 15:22.01 | jbevren | the wiki has lots of info on the gp2x |
| 15:22.23 | jbevren | now if the mmsp2 had a full MMU on both arm9 cores, it'd -really- rock |
| 15:22.24 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:24.12 | antics | i really haven't done all i planned to with the 2x |
| 15:24.27 | antics | or really much of anything |
| 15:24.57 | antics | i meant to but i found the blackfin and spend all my time on that |
| 15:48.29 | prpplague | make is as make does |
| 15:48.46 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:48.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fun fun |
| 15:49.23 | CosmicPenguin | +GCCVER:=$(shell $(CC) --version | head -n 1 | awk '{print $$3}') |
| 15:49.23 | CosmicPenguin | +GCCMAJ:=$(word 1, $(subst ., ,$(GCCVER))) |
| 15:49.23 | CosmicPenguin | +GCCMIN:=$(word 2, $(subst ., ,$(GCCVER))) |
| 15:49.33 | philv | make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. |
| 15:50.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:50.43 | prpplague | philv: hehe |
| 15:50.46 | prpplague | philv: cute |
| 15:53.23 | prpplague | doh |
| 15:53.24 | prpplague | Creating 5 MTD partitions on "amlm5900-nor": |
| 15:53.24 | prpplague | Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0000000c |
| 15:53.25 | prpplague | pgd = c0004000 |
| 15:53.25 | prpplague | [0000000c] *pgd=00000000 |
| 15:53.25 | prpplague | Internal error: Oops: 5 [#1] |
| 15:53.42 | jbevren | oops! |
| 15:53.57 | prpplague | must have fudged something |
| 16:04.59 | jbevren | my flash mistake was getting the chip width wrong (on the artis board) |
| 16:05.12 | jbevren | (I modified the mtdpart driver to fit ppcboot's layout) |
| 16:08.50 | prpplague | jbevren: this was working, i'm trying to clean up some stuff |
| 16:08.56 | jbevren | ahh |
| 16:08.57 | jbevren | gotcha |
| 16:09.06 | prpplague | jbevren: looks like its not setting the mtd partitions properly |
| 16:09.35 | jbevren | apparently :P |
| 16:22.06 | prpplague | jbevren: problem is i have two sets of mtd_partitons |
| 16:22.15 | prpplague | jbevren: both the same info, but in two places :( |
| 16:22.41 | prpplague | jbevren: trying to consolidate it into one location like it should be |
| 18:11.50 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:11.50 | prpplague | VERSION = 2 |
| 18:11.51 | prpplague | PATCHLEVEL = 6 |
| 18:11.51 | prpplague | SUBLEVEL = 18 |
| 18:11.51 | prpplague | EXTRAVERSION = |
| 18:11.51 | prpplague | NAME=Avast! A bilge rat! |
| 18:13.10 | ynezz | wow |
| 18:17.30 | jbevren | I dunno if I want bilge rats running around in my system :) |
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| 19:05.56 | prpplague | crap, i need to get this patches out the door and no one i need to talk to is on irc today :( |
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| 19:14.07 | CosmicPenguin | we love you too |
| 19:14.09 | CosmicPenguin | mallum! |
| 19:14.12 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: congratulations |
| 19:14.53 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: :D |
| 19:14.58 | mallum | thanks |
| 19:15.01 | mallum | finally ! |
| 19:15.04 | mallum | 18 days late |
| 19:15.07 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 19:15.59 | prpplague | mallum: wow congrats |
| 19:16.04 | prpplague | mallum: boy or girl? |
| 19:16.09 | jbevren | woot |
| 19:16.12 | mallum | little girl - 'Alleke' |
| 19:16.20 | mallum | all good |
| 19:24.08 | prpplague | mallum: coooool deal |
| 19:24.10 | prpplague | mallum: congrads |
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| 21:35.26 | jbevren | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4532837874.html |
| 21:37.52 | ynezz | good price |
| 21:38.04 | jbevren | concur! |
| 21:38.10 | jbevren | where do I ign up :) |
| 21:38.12 | jbevren | hm |
| 21:38.18 | jbevren | overtype mode must have been on |
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| 23:10.27 | prpplague | dfarnsworth: fun fun |
| 23:10.35 | prpplague | dfarnsworth: find the jtag yet? hehe |
| 23:11.18 | dfarnsworth | prpplague, no. At this point, I hope not to need jtag though. :) |
| 23:11.30 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:11.38 | dfarnsworth | prpplague, but, just in case, which pins are jtag? |
| 23:11.46 | prpplague | its hotter than a whore on pay day tonight |
| 23:11.47 | dfarnsworth | or pointers to docs |
| 23:12.06 | prpplague | dfarnsworth: hehe, problem is that most vendors try to hide the jtag pins |
| 23:13.40 | dfarnsworth | yeah, there's 2 abt. 20-pin headers on the board. But it looks like a PC. Stock software is BSD. I'll reload the IDE disk and see if it comes up. :) |
| 23:15.05 | prpplague | cool |
| 23:15.13 | prpplague | dfarnsworth: what proc? |
| 23:16.24 | dfarnsworth | it's a geode running at 267MHz. Has 2 serial ports, 3 eepro100 enets, and one laptop ide port. Oh, 64MB ram. That's it, I think. |
| 23:17.06 | CosmicPenguin | stupid geodes |
| 23:17.21 | CosmicPenguin | scourge of the earh |
| 23:17.30 | dfarnsworth | CosmicPenguin, hehe, don't make me feel bad. :) |
| 23:17.46 | CosmicPenguin | I curse anybody who works with those evil pieces of silicon |
| 23:21.16 | CosmicPenguin | I can't believe prpplague lets you stay in the room for even mentioning the word Geode |
| 23:21.20 | CosmicPenguin | they make him phsyically ill |
| 23:21.34 | dfarnsworth | hehe |
| 23:22.26 | CosmicPenguin | we're just joshing with you |
| 23:22.36 | CosmicPenguin | actually, I am the only remaining Linux engineer at AMD that still works on Geodes |
| 23:23.20 | dfarnsworth | I know you're joshing. Knew you were at AMD, didn't know you were a geoder, though. |
| 23:23.39 | CosmicPenguin | Yep, I'm the one to blame |
| 23:31.20 | philv | DEATH TO CosmicPenguin FOR HIS GEODE TRANSGRESSIONS |
| 23:31.32 | CosmicPenguin | You'll have to catch me first |
| 23:40.52 | philv | Haha |
| 23:40.57 | philv | Too lazy |