| 00:19.13 | prpplague | wow 176k shares of scox traded hands today |
| 00:47.46 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 02:32.36 | agaffney | can buildroot output an initramfs instead of an initrd? |
| 02:34.41 | agaffney | hmm, it doesn't appear so |
| 02:51.44 | agaffney | does CONFIG_MAKEDEVS in busybox build mdev, the udev equivelant? |
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| 04:34.09 | jbevren | hm |
| 04:34.14 | jbevren | isnt NX available in 2.6.17? |
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| 12:07.53 | chouimat | morning |
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| 13:12.42 | [g2] | anybody know something about gschematic's symbol file format ? |
| 13:13.47 | GPSFan | [g2]: I see you got an OSD, what do you think of it? |
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| 13:13.57 | [g2] | GPSFan I'm lov'n it |
| 13:14.43 | [g2] | GPSFan it's nearly the perfect box in concept for me |
| 13:14.43 | GPSFan | [g2]: how's the development environment, (mine arrives tomorrow..) |
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| 13:15.14 | [g2] | the neuros guys are doing a good job with what they've got |
| 13:15.38 | [g2] | but I think the dev environment has a sorted past and so it'll take some time to cleanup |
| 13:16.22 | GPSFan | [g2]: yeah, the closed source dsp is problamatic, but I think your idea of probing the i/o port access and using the available TI coc's to write your own codecs is good. |
| 13:16.26 | [g2] | basically you can dl a 225MB ish tarball and with a chroot and some patches you can build the firmware mostly from source |
| 13:17.20 | [g2] | the box actually records and plays back video |
| 13:17.25 | GPSFan | [g2]: I'm aslo a little worried about the patches to gcc that haven't been released yet. |
| 13:17.54 | [g2] | there's a toolchain there so a lot of stuff could be worked out |
| 13:18.25 | [g2] | the busybox patches are pretty trivial from mainline, the kernel is a different story |
| 13:18.46 | GPSFan | [g2]: indeed, I'm looking forward to getting it tomorrow and starting to play around with it, I'll pop into #neuros then |
| 13:19.06 | [g2] | GPSFan did you build the firmware yet ? |
| 13:19.40 | GPSFan | not yet, I d/l'd the latest tarball, then they came out with 3.20 and no source yet, so I might wait. |
| 13:20.12 | [g2] | you can svn up from the untarred dir |
| 13:20.23 | [g2] | and svn switch between tagged releases |
| 13:20.32 | GPSFan | i tried that and svn said I was at the latest rev. |
| 13:21.01 | GPSFan | but I haven't tried it today, theing m,ay have changed overnight. |
| 13:21.40 | [g2] | there was no tag for 20 yesterday dunno if that got straightened out |
| 13:22.17 | [g2] | firmware dev team's in China so it's a different time schedule |
| 13:22.35 | GPSFan | ah, svn up'd to 359 of the bsp... |
| 13:24.32 | GPSFan | still no 3.20 in tags. I'm sure they will get it sorted, the ammount of interest in the OSD is amazing. I hope it leads to more projects like it, and the lessening of the closed source parts. |
| 13:29.32 | jbevren | nod |
| 13:29.47 | jbevren | things like gamepark systems, openwrt, and the OSD are helping |
| 13:30.10 | prpplague | OSD? |
| 13:30.35 | jbevren | its a project settop box from some company (I dont remember who) |
| 13:30.44 | jbevren | they released the hardware and a devkit, and put bounties on applications |
| 13:31.04 | jbevren | http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/89ed/ |
| 13:31.06 | jbevren | neuros |
| 13:32.34 | jbevren | If you don't know what we are talking about... you probably should not buy the OSD. |
| 13:32.37 | jbevren | lol at least theyre honest |
| 13:41.58 | prpplague | oh wow |
| 13:41.59 | prpplague | nice |
| 13:42.27 | prpplague | didn't even know about it |
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| 13:51.13 | GPSFan | [g2]: still about? |
| 13:51.52 | [g2] | GPSFan yes |
| 13:52.02 | [g2] | and you ? |
| 13:52.05 | [g2] | :) |
| 13:52.19 | GPSFan | [g2]: you might want to takl to CosmicPenguin about nano-x (microwindows) he was very close to the development at one time. in fact PIXIL might even run on the OSD |
| 13:53.14 | [g2] | GPSFan awesome. Thx for the heads up |
| 13:53.24 | GPSFan | [g2]: np.. |
| 13:55.15 | GPSFan | [g2]: might also want to look into alternate GUI's like FBUI, XYNTH, directFB. nano-x development hasn't been very active lately. I wonder why the OSD team chose it? |
| 13:56.27 | [g2] | GPSFan dunno, I'm at the kernel bootloader layers and I'll work up to the upper layers |
| 13:56.38 | [g2] | I do like the first glance an LUA btw |
| 13:58.20 | GPSFan | [g2]: ;>) cool, can't wait to play with it... bbl... |
| 13:59.44 | [g2] | GPSFan cheers |
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| 14:19.21 | chouimat | lalalalalalalalalalalalalalaalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala |
| 14:21.37 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~112927,00.html |
| 14:26.47 | philv | AMD Announces Dropping of x86 Architecture and Switches to MIPS |
| 14:27.43 | CosmicPenguin | you're such a excellent troll |
| 14:27.47 | CosmicPenguin | do you want a cookie? |
| 14:29.25 | philv | CosmicPenguin: cookie! |
| 14:29.35 | CosmicPenguin | philv: I'm fresh out - I'll have to owe you |
| 14:29.43 | philv | :(((( |
| 14:35.43 | prpplague | i think i got disconnected |
| 14:41.17 | jbevren | prpplague: What? I cant hear you |
| 14:41.19 | jbevren | :) |
| 14:43.28 | CosmicPenguin | you know who I haven't haerd from in a while? prpplague |
| 14:43.47 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:46.26 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:46.57 | chouimat | prpplague: you're still alive!!!! |
| 14:46.59 | chouimat | :) |
| 14:50.14 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:50.36 | chouimat | 11 minutes ... this stress is unbareable |
| 14:54.05 | CosmicPenguin | For some reason, the idea of a space elevator is trippy to me |
| 14:54.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: me too |
| 14:54.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe there was good episode of STNG with one |
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| 14:57.31 | prpplague | T0mW: hey hey |
| 14:57.56 | T0mW | prpplague: morning, just sippin on my first cuppa' |
| 14:58.15 | jbevren | tom |
| 14:58.42 | CosmicPenguin | Thats his name, don't wear it out |
| 14:59.20 | prpplague | hmm, my dns server seems to not be working |
| 14:59.50 | chouimat|busy | later phone interview ... |
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| 15:34.59 | jbevren | http://www.nickhaddock.co.uk/turbine_media/jetbike.wmv |
| 15:39.11 | chouimat | wow that went well ... |
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| 15:46.43 | jbevren | chouimat: pretty impressive imho |
| 15:49.11 | chouimat | jbevren: I was talking about the interview I just had ... |
| 15:51.43 | jbevren | chouimat: Ah |
| 15:51.56 | jbevren | impressive no less :) |
| 15:52.02 | jbevren | to have an interview go so well |
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| 15:52.08 | jbevren | how well did it go, now that I said so :) |
| 15:54.42 | chouimat | jbevren: I have interview number 2 next week ... the only question I might loose some points was the "salary requirement" ... |
| 15:55.49 | chouimat | jbevren: I hate that one ... I'm more used to salaries in quebec city than here so it's hard to say |
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| 15:58.57 | jbevren | shrug |
| 15:59.04 | jbevren | one can live pretty well on $24k in this town |
| 15:59.05 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.51 | chouimat | jbevren: the average salary in quebec city is 37.5k here it seems it's 55k ... so I asked +/- 55K |
| 16:13.11 | philv | Oh |
| 16:13.19 | philv | That's starting wage at these Nortel parts |
| 16:13.34 | [g2] | T0mW what schematic tool do you use ? |
| 16:13.37 | T0mW | philv: heh, and rents start at $1800/mo ? |
| 16:13.38 | philv | I'm just about to incorporate myself I think though, hrhr |
| 16:13.45 | philv | Protel! |
| 16:13.45 | T0mW | [g2]: eagle |
| 16:13.53 | philv | T0mW: naw, I pay 824 dollars per month |
| 16:14.06 | chouimat | T0mW: not that much I pay 845 cad for 2 bedrooms |
| 16:14.08 | T0mW | philv: yeah, and she lets you get away with that? |
| 16:14.10 | [g2] | T0mW is there a linux version of eagle ? |
| 16:14.10 | philv | One bedroom, big living space, lots of storage |
| 16:14.33 | philv | T0mW: hmm? |
| 16:14.39 | T0mW | chouimat: I pay $430/mo for a small house |
| 16:14.45 | philv | Rent here is reasonable |
| 16:14.52 | philv | T0mW: where are you located though? |
| 16:15.09 | T0mW | philv: oh, sorry, I read $24/mo not $824/mo |
| 16:15.10 | philv | I could probably do that cheaply way out in the suburbs, but I'm about 10 minutes from Downtown no matter what direction I go |
| 16:15.18 | chouimat | philv: yup ... more expensive than quebec city but quebec city is getting there ... |
| 16:15.36 | T0mW | philv: Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. About 10 miles from the Delaware Water Gap. |
| 16:15.43 | philv | Yeah |
| 16:15.46 | philv | I was going to move around the Townships |
| 16:15.54 | philv | I think rent was about 200 dollars per month for a 3 bedroom apartment |
| 16:16.01 | philv | T0mW: nice |
| 16:16.29 | T0mW | philv: I tried living in other parts of the country, but these hills just kept calling me back. |
| 16:16.40 | CosmicPenguin | hills indeed |
| 16:16.42 | chouimat | philv: haute ville ---> 810 for 3 bedrooms .... basse ville -> less than 500$ but crappy stuff |
| 16:16.52 | CosmicPenguin | what you need are real mountains |
| 16:17.17 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: some call these hills mountains, but those are the people that have never been to the Rockies. |
| 16:17.27 | philv | chouimat: not too bad, but I've concluded I can't live the crappy stuff :< |
| 16:17.43 | philv | We have mountain- er... hills... here |
| 16:17.47 | philv | ;) |
| 16:17.49 | [g2] | anybody up for a power circuit question ? |
| 16:17.49 | CosmicPenguin | I could never live away from these mountains |
| 16:17.52 | philv | MOre like a lump |
| 16:18.01 | philv | [g2]: ok |
| 16:18.34 | [g2] | philv Ok let's say the power inputs are 4.5-12V DC, but there's a 9V battery option |
| 16:18.59 | T0mW | [g2]: Linear Technologies |
| 16:19.02 | [g2] | is there a way to disconnect the 9V if the external power is applied |
| 16:19.06 | philv | SHIT |
| 16:19.22 | [g2] | crap ? |
| 16:19.28 | T0mW | [g2]: diode switch it |
| 16:19.43 | philv | T0mW beat me to what I was going to say |
| 16:19.59 | [g2] | diode switch it ? |
| 16:20.17 | jbevren | [g2]: feed voltage from both sources through a diode |
| 16:20.20 | CosmicPenguin | philv: geez - don't take it personally |
| 16:20.24 | jbevren | this way neither power source will backfeed the other |
| 16:20.29 | T0mW | [g2]: possibly use a fet to disconnect the 9v battery if there is power sensed on the other side of the barrier diode on the 4.5v jack side? |
| 16:21.03 | [g2] | T0mW I can do anything reasonable (not too costly) |
| 16:21.18 | T0mW | [g2]: then, use a large enough cap on the output of the regulated supply to "hold" the voltage up when the power inputs transition. |
| 16:21.18 | [g2] | costly being a couple $$ |
| 16:21.34 | philv | CosmicPenguin: I am crying over here ;_; |
| 16:22.38 | T0mW | [g2]: you could put the FET on the ground lead of the battery and switch that on/off depending on the presence of the external jack state. |
| 16:23.03 | T0mW | [g2]: high-side switching is a PITA (positive lead) |
| 16:23.55 | [g2] | T0mW ok, I'm looking for something simple and reliable |
| 16:24.03 | [g2] | possibly even mechanical |
| 16:24.11 | T0mW | [g2]: using two diodes you would avoid the +9v feeding back into the external jack |
| 16:24.15 | jbevren | You can use a 3pin mechanical jack |
| 16:24.20 | jbevren | but those have long transition times |
| 16:24.27 | T0mW | jbevren: yeah |
| 16:24.37 | jbevren | that would mean a larger cap to hold over |
| 16:24.58 | jbevren | tom: I think a pair of diodes would be the cheapest |
| 16:25.10 | [g2] | the board is probably drawing less than 150mA @ 5v |
| 16:25.16 | jbevren | although you suffer a .5 to .7 drop using such a circuit |
| 16:26.39 | [g2] | jbevren is that from the external side or both ? |
| 16:27.58 | [g2] | from the external side it's no big deal as that's 12V or 5V with lots of power |
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| 16:29.49 | jbevren | [g2]: if you only place a diode in the external power path, external power can backfeed to the battery |
| 16:29.51 | jbevren | and vice versa |
| 16:30.24 | jbevren | T0mW's switch is a better solution, but would cost more to implement I think |
| 16:30.53 | jbevren | (and honestly, I'd go with tom's if I werent a lazy designer) :) |
| 16:31.08 | chouimat | jbevren: for the interview the guy asked my strenght and my weakness ... so I told him I'm not sure where to put this but when I code I like to take my time to get the simpliest and cleaniest thing that do the job :) |
| 16:31.13 | [g2] | what does a FET cost ? |
| 16:31.43 | jbevren | sub-$1 for low-current FETs (you mentioned a sub-1a device?) |
| 16:31.57 | [g2] | yup well below that |
| 16:32.27 | jbevren | tom's switch should cost less than $2 for sure (educated guess) |
| 16:32.31 | jbevren | just a few passives and a FET |
| 16:33.24 | philv | chouimat: I hate that question, it is such bullshit |
| 16:33.40 | philv | I always make something up that's ridiculous and makes people laugh |
| 16:33.59 | jbevren | "My biggest weakness is my incredible sense of humor"? |
| 16:34.00 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:34.59 | philv | Well, I like when they ask that question late in the interview |
| 16:35.07 | philv | Usually by then I've cased the person out |
| 16:35.24 | philv | And can say something that would be mildly offensive, yet that they'd find amusing |
| 16:36.10 | [g2] | is this regulated ? "Output 5V @ 850mA (With constant current and stable voltage output)" |
| 16:36.14 | T0mW | [g2]: http://www.openhardware.net/foo.gif |
| 16:36.34 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:36.47 | T0mW | [g2]: something like that |
| 16:36.47 | jbevren | reminds me of an interview with a city parks department |
| 16:36.59 | jbevren | they were joking around before the interview, and had just told a rather obscene joke |
| 16:37.08 | jbevren | in the end, they asked if I had anything else to show them |
| 16:37.16 | jbevren | I replied with "nothing you want to see." and grinned |
| 16:37.25 | jbevren | the director grinned and hired me on the spot |
| 16:37.32 | T0mW | [g2]: depends on your current load, 2n7000's are about 39cents |
| 16:37.48 | T0mW | [g2]: they will handle up to 180ma |
| 16:38.08 | [g2] | T0mW Thanks! |
| 16:38.20 | [g2] | I've got to run to lunch now |
| 16:38.21 | jbevren | T0mW: I'm personally unfamiliar with fet's. Whats the drop on the circuit when in battery mode? |
| 16:41.20 | T0mW | [g2]: avoid P channel FETs if you can (high side switch) as they tend to be less efficient (more channel resistance) and cost more than N channel devices. |
| 16:41.47 | T0mW | [g2]: that gif is about to go away now, save it. |
| 16:52.36 | T0mW | jbevren: he should only see maybe 100mv of drop there, IIRC, the 2n7000 RDon is around an Ohm. |
| 16:53.33 | jbevren | T0mW: cool |
| 16:53.56 | jbevren | Oddly, I dont remember us ever workign with FETs in college |
| 16:54.03 | jbevren | I can grok transistors |
| 16:54.58 | T0mW | anyone have a clue as to where I would look for this problem? I have a 40col text screen on the LCD (framebuffer of Zipit), when you backspace on a line that is wrapped, when you backspace to col #1 and move to col #40 of the previous line, the cursor screws up and lands on the wrong col position. |
| 16:55.06 | T0mW | is that in the kernel or the getty? |
| 16:55.48 | T0mW | cursor postioning and text display is borked at that point. getty prints the wrong char |
| 16:56.16 | jbevren | Hm |
| 16:56.25 | jbevren | the kernel fb layer seems to work ok in the zipitpet kernel |
| 16:56.34 | jbevren | I'd like to suspect the getty |
| 16:56.48 | jbevren | unless, of ocurse, the getty just uses stdio |
| 16:57.05 | T0mW | jbevren: well, it is still busybox that I'm using, a later version of it: 0.92 vs 1.2.1 |
| 16:57.26 | jbevren | ah, then the getty's likely not that smart |
| 16:58.26 | T0mW | I guess that I'll have to track it down back into the buildroot version and see if the problem existed there. Trouble is that I'm the only one releasing source for the zipit so I don't have any other references. |
| 16:58.50 | jbevren | nod |
| 16:58.56 | T0mW | there is plenty of ROM images out there... :( |
| 16:58.58 | jbevren | even my zipits have been retired to collecting uptime |
| 16:58.58 | jbevren | heh |
| 16:59.25 | jbevren | mainly cause I cant get them on my WEP'ed wifi |
| 16:59.42 | T0mW | jbevren: wait, this new OE version is pretty involved. I'm using openVPN to have pine access my email accounts from the zipit. |
| 17:00.13 | T0mW | I still cannot get weechat to build under OE though |
| 17:00.28 | jbevren | hm |
| 17:00.35 | jbevren | Ive never tried OE for anything |
| 17:00.44 | jbevren | I usually end up just using a stock buildroot heh |
| 17:01.01 | T0mW | jbevren: there is a steep learning curve, but having said that, so does buildroot. |
| 17:01.15 | jbevren | since I still use zipit's kernel and the cramfs firmware, I have to match my buildroot to the zipits or I get libc errors |
| 17:01.25 | jbevren | T0mW: I ported tinySNMP to the zipit heh |
| 17:01.29 | jbevren | I can pull it off if I want to |
| 17:01.33 | T0mW | jbevren: what intrigued me about OE was the breadth of apps that they have in it. |
| 17:01.39 | jbevren | ahh |
| 17:02.03 | jbevren | I need to replace the mem sizing resistors in my red zipit so it'll boot and then do the serial hack ;) |
| 17:02.17 | T0mW | like: cron, openvpn, portmap, pine, etc. |
| 17:02.19 | jbevren | I lost two resistors in a soder blob cause I'm dumb :) |
| 17:02.37 | jbevren | tom: youre using a SD card for rootfs? |
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| 17:03.19 | T0mW | jbevren: yeah, the kernel is still in flash, it is uncompressed (vmlinux Image) and the kernel then starts running in less than a second. |
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| 17:04.33 | T0mW | jbevren: takes about 7 seconds for the kernel to boot and start processing the init. |
| 17:04.47 | prpplague | T0mW: 7 seconds? |
| 17:05.24 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, the old compressed kernel took that long just to unpack itself |
| 17:05.28 | prpplague | T0mW: for the littlechips s3c2410 board? |
| 17:05.31 | jbevren | T0mW: Okay, and the mmc driver is built-in (monolithic)? |
| 17:05.40 | T0mW | prpplague: no, for zipit |
| 17:05.45 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh |
| 17:05.54 | jbevren | Ohhh youre using an uncompressed image |
| 17:05.55 | jbevren | cool |
| 17:06.04 | prpplague | T0mW: sounds like the cache isn't enabled |
| 17:06.16 | prpplague | T0mW: should only be about 1-2 for decompression |
| 17:06.22 | T0mW | jbevren: plus I've added a 320x208 pixel boot logo. |
| 17:06.54 | jbevren | got info for this on the wiki so I can stop bugging you? :) |
| 17:08.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just got an email from a company wanting me to do a port of my enc28j60 driver |
| 17:08.18 | T0mW | prpplague: no matter, the 1.2meg kernel image copies very quickly |
| 17:08.34 | jbevren | nod, a memcopy should be fast |
| 17:09.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nice - tell em you want 1millondollars! </pinky> |
| 17:09.09 | T0mW | if I can fix this framebuffer backspace problem I can release what I have. |
| 17:09.40 | T0mW | I have a feeling that this may be in the kernel console driver sources? |
| 17:10.10 | T0mW | is there an ioctl to do XY positioning for the cursor? |
| 17:11.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, they offered a dev board |
| 17:11.49 | T0mW | jbevren: what I'd like to do is create a simple gui wrapper for the apps. Typing out 'iwlist eth0 scanning' on the console is a PITA, I would like to have an icon based frontend. |
| 17:12.32 | T0mW | tty1 would be the gui, tty2 + tty3 would be text consoles |
| 17:21.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ping |
| 17:22.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: pong |
| 17:22.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: go here and tell me if you know any of the breweries from texas |
| 17:22.34 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.beertown.org/events/gabf/breweries/participating.aspx |
| 17:24.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i know almost of those |
| 17:24.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the only one thats really any good is saint arnolds |
| 17:24.21 | CosmicPenguin | saint arnolds? |
| 17:24.23 | CosmicPenguin | check |
| 17:24.41 | CosmicPenguin | I'll try to hit them |
| 17:24.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the rest are wastes |
| 17:24.59 | CosmicPenguin | Shiner Bock always gives away cool swag |
| 17:25.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't bother with them |
| 17:25.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:25.30 | prpplague | they don't have those kinds of things in texas |
| 17:26.18 | prpplague | hmm there are two on there i've never heard of |
| 17:29.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh ok, the only other one there on the list that might be interesting is the rhar but compared to the others, i doubt it |
| 17:29.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: abita has some interesting beers |
| 17:30.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: of course dogfish should be on your list |
| 17:31.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: flying dog |
| 17:31.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: man there are alot of good ones? |
| 17:31.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you going? |
| 17:32.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah |
| 17:32.02 | CosmicPenguin | love dogfish |
| 17:32.11 | CosmicPenguin | flying dog is ok - I like in heat wheat |
| 17:32.14 | CosmicPenguin | the others meh |
| 17:32.32 | CosmicPenguin | if you come up to do a beer tour, we're totally going to the flying dog brewery though |
| 17:32.43 | CosmicPenguin | and we'll take a diversion to try their wiskey |
| 17:32.46 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:32.50 | CosmicPenguin | whisky rather |
| 17:32.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: three floyds |
| 17:34.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: only others that jump out for me is full sail and goose island |
| 17:35.32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you mean in the entire list? |
| 17:35.35 | CosmicPenguin | or just texas |
| 17:36.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: entire list, just ones that might be of interest, there are alot of good ones, but those are some i'd be looking for |
| 17:36.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that you might not have tried |
| 17:37.06 | CosmicPenguin | I try alot of beers when I go - but usually I only get one or two that I buy later |
| 17:37.13 | CosmicPenguin | also because not every beer in the country is available in colorado |
| 17:37.45 | CosmicPenguin | but it is embaressing how many of these places I recognize |
| 17:38.12 | CosmicPenguin | I need to cut back on my beer consumption |
| 17:38.16 | CosmicPenguin | or increase it - I can't remember |
| 17:39.15 | CosmicPenguin | Big Sky will be there |
| 17:39.17 | CosmicPenguin | moose drool |
| 17:39.19 | CosmicPenguin | drool..... |
| 17:41.04 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:41.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, try the limited beer supply in texas |
| 17:51.07 | jbevren | !request mahoney (anything good) |
| 17:51.09 | jbevren | oop |
| 17:51.10 | jbevren | gah |
| 17:52.20 | philv | ~quote scox |
| 17:52.29 | philv | UP! |
| 17:52.31 | philv | :M |
| 17:53.00 | prpplague | philv: yea it was up at the same time yesterday, question is will there be a sell off at the time as yesterday |
| 17:53.17 | philv | Here's hoping |
| 17:53.22 | philv | I want to see it close below a dollar |
| 17:53.42 | prpplague | hehe, me too |
| 17:54.01 | philv | It's worth less than NT and NT.TO though, so I am happy :D |
| 17:54.23 | philv | (I think we also have 100 times the number of outstanding shares too) |
| 17:54.27 | philv | ~quote nt |
| 17:54.29 | philv | ~quote nt.to |
| 18:01.33 | prpplague | man i feel like crap today |
| 18:02.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, what to do about this company wanting help with the enc28j60, what to do, what to do |
| 18:03.45 | prpplague | ahh jethro tull |
| 18:07.27 | jbevren | prpplague: Do they allow you to leave the source free/open? |
| 18:07.59 | prpplague | jbevren: uh, they have no choice i wrote it and its covered under GPL |
| 18:08.16 | prpplague | jbevren: i was just about to post it to the net-dev list |
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| 18:09.16 | philv | What Would Jethro Do? |
| 18:10.08 | prpplague | philv: sell the code for a million dollars and move to beverly hills? |
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| 18:12.04 | prpplague | philv: you do any arm dev or just mips? |
| 18:13.36 | prpplague | jbevren: the new blade runner is suppose to have something like 20 minutes of scenes that were cut for the thearical release |
| 18:13.56 | philv | prpplague: Nope, I'm all MIPS and PPC |
| 18:14.04 | philv | prpplague: Never really run across ARM |
| 18:14.06 | jbevren | prpplague: ahh you say braaaade runnah |
| 18:15.05 | prpplague | philv: ahh interesting, what mips boards do you normally work with? i've been in the market for a good one to start with, but i find the mips embedded market confusing (and expensive) |
| 18:15.46 | philv | Expensive is a good way to describe it |
| 18:15.52 | philv | I develop with whatever I can get my dirty hands on |
| 18:16.13 | philv | I have a Capcella from Zhao, but I don't think they make those anymore. |
| 18:16.23 | philv | As well as the Mikrotik Routerboard 500 (don't recommend it really) |
| 18:52.19 | prpplague | anyone ever heard of these guys - http://www.celeritous.com/estore/index.php |
| 18:57.18 | CosmicPenguin | not me |
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| 20:51.41 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 23:05.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wheeeeeee |
| 23:05.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3862/2 |
| 23:05.27 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
| 23:05.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: two in less than a week |
| 23:06.00 | prpplague | now, if i could only get laid as much |
| 23:06.06 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 23:06.09 | CosmicPenguin | thats al ittle sad |
| 23:06.25 | CosmicPenguin | equating getting laid with submittingpatches that is |
| 23:06.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe yea i know i'll try harder to get more patches in, hehe |
| 23:24.17 | prpplague | philv: hey, sorry to have bailed on my mips question earlier this morning |
| 23:24.25 | prpplague | philv: had a dsl outage |
| 23:24.42 | prpplague | philv: and by time it was back up i was way behind schedule for the day |
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| 23:44.57 | prpplague | ~seen sjhill |
| 23:45.45 | purl | sjhill <n=sjhill@eth13.com-link.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 9d 6h 17m 8s ago, saying: '~sjhill'. |
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| 23:49.12 | agaffney | is there a place in buildroot to insert a post-processing script? |
| 23:52.51 | prpplague | agaffney: i'm sure there is but my brain is toast tonight, sorry |
| 23:52.56 | agaffney | heh |
| 23:52.58 | prpplague | agaffney: ask me again in the morning |
| 23:53.07 | agaffney | the default busybox config in buildroot is outdated |
| 23:53.17 | agaffney | it doesn't have options that were introduced in 1.1 |
| 23:53.21 | agaffney | and it's using busybox 1.2.1 |
| 23:53.31 | prpplague | agaffney: yea, i've been meaning to update it but i've been swamped at work |
| 23:53.44 | agaffney | oh, do you maintain buildroot? |
| 23:54.53 | prpplague | i'm on the list of maintainers and tend to handle some of the bug reports when i can, which is to say not much in the last couple of months |
| 23:55.00 | agaffney | ah |
| 23:57.10 | prpplague | agaffney: i can also do uclibc and busybox, i mainly stick with buildroot |
| 23:57.35 | prpplague | guess i should allocate some time soon to get caught up |
| 23:57.42 | agaffney | is there a bug tracker for buildroot? |
| 23:58.14 | prpplague | http://bugs.uclibc.org/my_view_page.php |
| 23:58.25 | agaffney | is it uclibc's bug tracker? |
| 23:58.34 | agaffney | I'll take that as a yes :) |
| 23:58.52 | prpplague | agaffney: buildroot, busybox, uclibc are all maintained together since they are so closely related so to speak |
