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| 02:15.02 | wmat | prpplague: adobe does - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/ |
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| 13:22.38 | prpplague | argh my sinus's are killing me today |
| 13:24.16 | sjhill | me too |
| 13:24.41 | prpplague | sjhill: morning |
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| 13:25.00 | prpplague | sjhill: we have big tropical wave moving in |
| 13:25.21 | prpplague | http://image.weather.com/images/sat/atl_oce_sat_720x486.jpg |
| 13:25.32 | prpplague | we are about 30 minutes away from have a downpour |
| 13:26.49 | sjhill | wow |
| 13:28.19 | prpplague | doesn't help either that the pollution here is terrible |
| 13:28.19 | prpplague | all the truck fumes and burning trash |
| 13:28.33 | prpplague | nothing like living in a third world country |
| 13:31.05 | sjhill | heh |
| 13:31.12 | sjhill | sorry to hear that |
| 13:31.16 | sjhill | not much longer thought |
| 13:33.18 | prpplague | yep, coming to an end soon |
| 13:33.51 | prpplague | sjhill: you see that post on /. about people wanting to leave the US? |
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| 13:56.36 | sjhill | nope |
| 13:56.41 | sjhill | i don't read /. anymore |
| 13:56.44 | sjhill | got a URL? |
| 13:57.43 | prpplague | yea one sec |
| 13:58.48 | prpplague | sjhill: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/24/1810233 |
| 14:08.15 | sjhill | so |
| 14:08.26 | sjhill | how does one echo a TAB character to a file |
| 14:08.33 | sjhill | echo "TAB" >> file |
| 14:08.47 | jbevren | echo -e '\t' |
| 14:09.08 | prpplague | echo -e \009 |
| 14:09.52 | prpplague | actually if you don't want to have cr/lf at the end you need to do |
| 14:09.55 | sjhill | thank you |
| 14:09.56 | prpplague | echo -n -e \009 |
| 14:10.40 | prpplague | jbevren: i don't like using the nemonics for those, prefer to do strict ascii values |
| 14:20.50 | jbevren | shrug? |
| 14:21.30 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe |
| 14:21.35 | prpplague | jbevren: just a style choice |
| 14:21.41 | prpplague | jbevren: hows the new job? |
| 14:22.45 | sjhill | jbevren changed jobs? |
| 14:24.09 | wmat | prpplague: you talk to TR? |
| 14:24.44 | jbevren | prpplague: much better |
| 14:24.55 | jbevren | I'm rated on actual performance rather than how many tickets I manage to reply to in a day |
| 14:25.09 | prpplague | wmat: negative, he wasn't online last night, waiting for him now |
| 14:25.46 | wmat | cool |
| 14:26.22 | wmat | i was wondering last night whether putting a little effort into improving the design of a wiki is useful |
| 14:26.32 | wmat | maybe something like gentoo-wiki.org |
| 14:28.03 | prpplague | hmm, that does look nice |
| 14:28.47 | wmat | even though the sub pages are basic mediawiki-like, at least the main page is a little nicer |
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| 14:29.38 | prpplague | isenbeck: morning crack baby |
| 14:32.18 | prpplague | http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/CylonOLantern |
| 14:33.08 | chouimat|ibook | morning |
| 14:35.02 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: cool :) |
| 14:35.08 | philv | prpplague: that's pretty awesome |
| 14:35.10 | isenbeck | prpplague, ahhh jeeeeez |
| 14:35.27 | philv | Strike 800001 for SAP: Doesn't work properly in Firefox |
| 14:35.42 | isenbeck | I told Carey that I am mandating vendor cert as of Nov.1 |
| 14:35.52 | isenbeck | and then i fired him |
| 14:38.15 | prpplague | isenbeck: ?? |
| 14:40.32 | isenbeck | prpplague, what......... ? |
| 14:40.47 | prpplague | <isenbeck> I told Carey that I am mandating vendor cert as of Nov.1 |
| 14:40.47 | prpplague | <isenbeck> and then i fired him |
| 14:40.56 | prpplague | what are you babeling about? |
| 14:41.36 | isenbeck | the owner of te company turned over operations to me.....his name is Carey |
| 14:41.46 | isenbeck | he is retiring |
| 14:42.00 | isenbeck | so............I am making changes to get us more $$$$$ |
| 14:42.16 | isenbeck | bigger commercial accounts |
| 14:42.40 | prpplague | isenbeck: ahh cool |
| 14:43.00 | jbevren | I thought he fired Jim |
| 14:43.04 | isenbeck | So I am mandating vendor certs for my techs so that we can get partnerships |
| 14:43.06 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:43.15 | isenbeck | I fired the owner of the company |
| 14:43.29 | chouimat|ibook | isenbeck: wow ... |
| 14:43.30 | isenbeck | he laughed......cleaned out his desk..........and left |
| 14:43.31 | jbevren | isenbeck: Nod |
| 14:44.25 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:44.43 | isenbeck | he was ready to retire............. |
| 14:44.49 | jbevren | isenbeck: The company's in good hands if the manager has the balls to fire its owner :) |
| 14:44.54 | isenbeck | he knows NOTHING about IT.............. |
| 14:48.53 | isenbeck | jbevren, It has been a long time coming |
| 14:49.59 | isenbeck | I hate to say it............but there is no way this company wold make money if we didn't offer commercial IT products. |
| 15:00.29 | wmat | isenbeck: what certs do you value? |
| 15:01.52 | isenbeck | wmat, each one of my techs has a different area of expertice. |
| 15:02.01 | isenbeck | I am linux and networking........ |
| 15:02.31 | isenbeck | Josh is m$ and networking........ |
| 15:02.48 | isenbeck | Justin is m$ |
| 15:03.16 | wmat | so like RHCE, MCSD kind of certs? |
| 15:03.30 | isenbeck | commercialy "valuable" certs in our case would be cisco m$ and RH |
| 15:03.34 | isenbeck | wmat, yepper |
| 15:03.41 | wmat | ah |
| 15:03.50 | isenbeck | I personally want my RHCE |
| 15:04.07 | isenbeck | prpplague, has given me a hard time about it..... |
| 15:04.23 | wmat | it's funny how some people completely find no value in certs while other do |
| 15:05.58 | isenbeck | his argument is that the market is flooded with people who can take tests but dont kow what they are doing |
| 15:06.01 | wmat | i'm actually planning to write a MySQL cert soon |
| 15:06.20 | wmat | isenbeck: yes, that's the general "certs are useless" arguement |
| 15:07.37 | isenbeck | I believe personally that my ten years of hands on plus a cert or two would make me more valuable than a college grad |
| 15:07.59 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: certs value are for incompetement managers ... they enable them to convert their ass ... I know when I was in Quebec City I spent my days fixing screwups made by certified peoples :) |
| 15:09.03 | wmat | heh |
| 15:09.14 | isenbeck | prpplague, needs an asprin.. |
| 15:09.26 | wmat | prpplague: just have more rum |
| 15:09.34 | isenbeck | hair of the dog |
| 15:10.14 | wmat | I'm writing the MySQL cert to force myself to learn more about MySQL and also to make myself more attractive to MySQL for some freelance work in the future |
| 15:10.17 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: I had a lot of bad experiences caused by certs ... so I find the useless ... but if they can help me to have a better job because of the morons hiring I might get one :) |
| 15:10.33 | wmat | chouimat|ibook: exactly |
| 15:11.16 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: but I won't get one because I want to get one ... |
| 15:11.26 | wmat | they are a means to an end |
| 15:11.45 | isenbeck | prpplague, says that the people who do the hiring of tech employees dont always understand what they are hiring for. |
| 15:11.50 | wmat | i'd hope nobody gets one just to get one |
| 15:13.00 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: anyway one of my plans for the near future is trying to go back to school next fall ... and try to do a master (well let just say start it at least) |
| 15:13.12 | wmat | in what? |
| 15:13.37 | wmat | mine is to get more remote work |
| 15:13.54 | isenbeck | wmat, meeee to |
| 15:13.56 | chouimat|ibook | Computer Science ... operating system design maybe ... don't know yet ... |
| 15:15.49 | prpplague | mine is to open a nudie bar that has wifi access and 30 beers on draft |
| 15:15.59 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: hehe |
| 15:16.24 | isenbeck | prpplague, has a wad of 1$ bills burning a hole in his pocket |
| 15:16.31 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: I bet you will see a lot of "data burst" ;) |
| 15:17.09 | prpplague | "may i help you?" "yes i'm here to register my business" "ok whats the name?" "Dave's Nudie Bar and Embedded Linux Consulting" |
| 15:17.39 | wmat | isenbeck: one drawback of Candian currency is we have $1 and 2$ coins |
| 15:17.51 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: "oooh! a boobs consultant!" |
| 15:17.56 | wmat | so the minimum stage gratuity is now $5 |
| 15:18.17 | wmat | and I've heard the 5 is going to move to a coin soon as well |
| 15:18.36 | wmat | it makes me feel like a pirate |
| 15:18.39 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: and I heard the 10 too ... |
| 15:18.57 | prpplague | wmat: yea well i'm sure i could find a place to put a $1 coin |
| 15:19.39 | wmat | prpplague: heh, except the dancer usually kicks you in the side of the head if you lie on the stage with a coin |
| 15:19.48 | wmat | at least that happens every time I try ;) |
| 15:20.18 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 17:10.08 | T0mW | heh, the United States Post Office will deliver a Priority Mail package two days faster than UPS Ground will. |
| 17:10.55 | CosmicPenguin | They're just happy to get the business |
| 17:11.31 | T0mW | must be |
| 17:12.01 | T0mW | normally, UPS take 3..4 days to ship from Digikey in Minnesota, USPS Priority Mail takes two days |
| 17:12.43 | T0mW | AND(!!!) they will deliver that package on a Saturday for no additional charge! |
| 17:13.02 | T0mW | fsck UPS |
| 17:15.22 | CosmicPenguin | Things that make me very happy right now: |
| 17:15.23 | T0mW | I think the next time I order PCBs that I'll have those sent via USPS |
| 17:15.24 | CosmicPenguin | * Drupal |
| 17:15.29 | CosmicPenguin | * Google Reader |
| 17:15.36 | CosmicPenguin | That is all |
| 17:15.55 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: Drupal, it that a drug of some sort, like OxyCotton? |
| 17:15.58 | T0mW | ;) |
| 17:16.30 | CosmicPenguin | OxyCotton - isn't that the new cloth with power of oxygen built right in? |
| 17:16.52 | T0mW | you wish |
| 17:17.45 | CosmicPenguin | http://drupal.org/ |
| 17:17.52 | wmat | prpplague: your not in #eLinux? shall I tell you what I've learned about the new wiki here? |
| 17:17.59 | CosmicPenguin | I just installed it on my new server that hopefully goes live this weekened |
| 17:18.06 | CosmicPenguin | it was so easy to use, its powerful as all get out |
| 17:18.08 | prpplague | wmat: yes please |
| 17:18.09 | wmat | CosmicPenguin: drupal is good! |
| 17:18.16 | wmat | we use it on linux.ca |
| 17:18.29 | CosmicPenguin | it works with gallery (http://gallery.menalto.com/) |
| 17:18.45 | wmat | prpplague: the wiki is completely public and will never be owned by anyone; it's NOT a CELF site |
| 17:19.16 | wmat | prpplague: in fact, it will not even be celf-centric |
| 17:20.41 | prpplague | wmat: how will backups of the data be handled? |
| 17:23.31 | wmat | prpplague: Movial is donating hosting and I'm not sure what their back up scheme is, however, I can find out |
| 17:24.16 | sjhill | i'd like to go on record and say that i hate building custom linux distribution CDs |
| 17:24.31 | wmat | noted |
| 17:24.33 | prpplague | wmat: will CELF allow anyone request/get a copy of a complete backup of the wiki? |
| 17:24.40 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe |
| 17:25.20 | wmat | prpplague: i can't see why not, seeing as CELF has NO say really |
| 17:25.58 | prpplague | wmat: what about the reverse engineering issue? |
| 17:26.36 | wmat | if you'd publish on eLinux.org, it's same as on the new wiki |
| 17:26.52 | prpplague | wmat: ok |
| 17:27.14 | prpplague | wmat: how do you envision incorporating the elinux.org data into the new wiki? |
| 17:27.25 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: and you installed Drupal because... |
| 17:27.38 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: new server |
| 17:27.39 | prpplague | T0mW: on his home page i would assume |
| 17:27.42 | wmat | prpplague: not sure yet, i'm only in the early, early stage of site dev |
| 17:27.52 | wmat | I'm still working out the organization |
| 17:27.52 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 17:28.13 | wmat | and the design, hence my looking at gentoo-wiki.org for ideas |
| 17:29.58 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin has a web page? |
| 17:30.02 | sjhill | where? |
| 17:30.14 | CosmicPenguin | the old one is still kicking about crouse-house.com |
| 17:30.38 | CosmicPenguin | Right now I'm serving up web and e-mail from my desktop, which is really showing its age |
| 17:30.55 | sjhill | who's the Stacee chick? |
| 17:30.58 | CosmicPenguin | So I got a 1U Pentium 4 server for 300 bucks on Ebay, and put that in my rack downstairs |
| 17:31.11 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: heh - some chick who lives with me or something |
| 17:31.17 | sjhill | :) |
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| 17:31.45 | CosmicPenguin | So thats why drupal |
| 17:32.28 | isenbeck | gotta ne louisiana and it's reliable power grid |
| 17:32.41 | CosmicPenguin | I'm still looking for a decent replacement for squirrelmail |
| 17:33.34 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: dude, i don't know how to tell you this, but she's better looking than you :P |
| 17:34.02 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: oh, yeah |
| 17:34.12 | sjhill | heh |
| 17:35.51 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: did i tell you my wife is pregnant with our 2nd? |
| 17:35.59 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: oh, you didn |
| 17:36.00 | CosmicPenguin | t |
| 17:36.02 | CosmicPenguin | congats! |
| 17:36.06 | sjhill | thx |
| 17:41.59 | philv | Oh god kids. |
| 17:42.28 | prpplague | sjhill: congrads!!! |
| 17:46.15 | prpplague | sjhill: is that your 1st wife is pregnant with 2nd baby? or 2nd wife is pregnant with 1st baby? |
| 17:46.52 | philv | 8th wife, 4th child of that wife, 17th child in total |
| 17:50.08 | sjhill | prpplague: 2nd wife with 2nd baby....i wouldn't go near my 1st wife |
| 17:50.27 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe |
| 17:50.50 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe i have the best kind of ex-wife |
| 17:50.52 | prpplague | sjhill: dead |
| 17:51.23 | philv | uh |
| 17:51.25 | sjhill | yeah, some people get all the luck |
| 17:51.26 | philv | That's kinda' morbid |
| 17:51.30 | philv | :( |
| 17:51.37 | sjhill | it isn't if you know the background |
| 17:51.48 | CosmicPenguin | I will have to concur |
| 17:51.51 | philv | I imagined that was the case |
| 17:52.12 | philv | Now I have a burning desire to ask the background but won't. |
| 17:52.42 | prpplague | philv: she was diabetic and was basically a sugar addict |
| 17:53.01 | prpplague | philv: just eventually killed her |
| 17:53.17 | sjhill | philv: but not before making prpplague's life hell |
| 17:53.31 | philv | prpplague: oh :( |
| 17:53.41 | philv | uggh |
| 17:53.45 | philv | :< |
| 17:54.25 | prpplague | philv: divorce is soooo much fun |
| 17:54.50 | philv | :(((((( |
| 17:55.19 | sjhill | fortunately for me, i traded up |
| 17:55.30 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:55.44 | sjhill | my advice, marry someone at least 5 years younger |
| 17:55.54 | sjhill | keeps you young |
| 17:55.58 | sjhill | whoo boy |
| 17:56.01 | prpplague | when your wife turns 40 trade her in for two 20's |
| 17:56.13 | sjhill | no way |
| 17:56.18 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:57.38 | prpplague | bbiab |
| 17:57.41 | chouimat|ibook | hehe |
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| 18:48.52 | LyosNorezel | heh... you're not the only one |
| 18:50.30 | wmat | anyone ever try to duplicate hardware? |
| 18:50.50 | wmat | i want to try to build a dreamcast BBA |
| 18:51.12 | LyosNorezel | wtf is a dreamcast BBA? |
| 18:51.14 | prpplague | wmat: dreamcast bba? |
| 18:51.24 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: if you build one I want one ;) |
| 18:51.31 | wmat | broadband adapter |
| 18:51.35 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: dreamcast network card |
| 18:51.52 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:52.02 | wmat | they are available on ebay occasionally but generally cost a lot |
| 18:52.02 | jbevren | wmat: which bba? |
| 18:52.09 | jbevren | wmat: there were two |
| 18:52.10 | prpplague | wmat: they too expensive to purchase? |
| 18:52.13 | jbevren | one (mine) is an 8139 |
| 18:52.23 | jbevren | prpplague: Sega put them out in very limited quantity |
| 18:52.30 | jbevren | so theyre hard to get |
| 18:52.33 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:52.37 | jbevren | mine was from sega's last batch |
| 18:53.02 | prpplague | wmat: probably not that hard to duplicate |
| 18:53.19 | prpplague | jbevren: you got a list of the chips on it? |
| 18:53.27 | jbevren | prpplague: Not on-hand |
| 18:53.35 | jbevren | and I think that dreamcast is at my sister's |
| 18:53.40 | jbevren | the one I have here has the modem |
| 18:53.41 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:54.16 | LyosNorezel | btw... wtf is a Dreamcast? |
| 18:54.27 | prpplague | LyosNorezel: gaming console |
| 18:54.31 | LyosNorezel | oh |
| 18:54.42 | LyosNorezel | that explains why I'm clueless |
| 18:54.44 | LyosNorezel | hehe |
| 18:54.52 | wmat | HIT-O40x |
| 18:55.19 | wmat | the 0300 only does 10Mbit |
| 18:55.29 | wmat | 040x does 10/100 |
| 18:56.11 | prpplague | wmat: hmm |
| 18:56.42 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: http://www.fuzzymuzzle.com/Bitmaster/bITmASTERs_dCdeV.htm <---- interesting |
| 18:56.58 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: ^^^^^ |
| 18:57.22 | wmat | chouimat|ibook: there's lots of pages out there like that one |
| 18:57.31 | wmat | i like marcus comstedts the best |
| 18:57.32 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: I know ... |
| 18:57.55 | wmat | i've always wanted to try the HD interface as well |
| 18:57.58 | wmat | just for kicks |
| 18:58.18 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: received the keyboard, the mouse and the coder cable today :) |
| 18:58.28 | wmat | cool |
| 18:58.54 | wmat | http://www.boob.co.uk/tutorials/guide.html |
| 18:58.58 | wmat | that's another good page |
| 18:59.35 | wmat | http://mc.pp.se/dc/ |
| 18:59.44 | wmat | that's marcus' page |
| 19:02.33 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: http://hw001.gate01.com/ikehara/dc/ <--- look at DCEXT |
| 19:03.39 | wmat | chouimat|ibook: neat |
| 19:04.12 | wmat | looks fun |
| 19:04.26 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: too bad I suck with a soldering iron |
| 19:04.27 | prpplague | where does the bba plug into? |
| 19:04.47 | wmat | prpplague: the bottom, where the modem goes |
| 19:04.51 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: the extension port ... replacing the modem |
| 19:05.12 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:08.28 | chouimat|ibook | hmmm bba for 55usd on ebay |
| 19:09.10 | prpplague | wmat: you wanting to use the standard dreamcast stuff, or run linux? |
| 19:09.21 | wmat | linux |
| 19:09.33 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: netbsd works well on it :) |
| 19:09.38 | wmat | i already have linux booting for it |
| 19:10.03 | wmat | although, i haven't booted any current kernels in sometime |
| 19:10.19 | MonMotha | what doesn't netbsd work on? |
| 19:10.26 | wmat | chouimat|ibook: yes, i've booted netbsd on it as well |
| 19:10.43 | wmat | chouimat|ibook: that's a good price for a BBA |
| 19:11.42 | prpplague | wmat: you could add an enc28j60 to the parallel port easy |
| 19:12.28 | prpplague | anyone have the pin outs of the modem port that the bba connects to? |
| 19:12.40 | wmat | i do somewhere i think |
| 19:15.00 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: and it's the HIT-0400 |
| 19:15.53 | wmat | ah, i think that's just the first rev. from nintendo, not sure though |
| 19:17.14 | prpplague | hmm, the bba is supported in the netbsd so i guess they have enough info to make it work |
| 19:17.33 | wmat | it works in linux too |
| 19:17.40 | prpplague | nice |
| 19:17.58 | prpplague | if you can find the pinouts for that interface i could tell you about a enc28j60 device |
| 19:20.09 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: look here http://hw001.gate01.com/ikehara/dc/data/dcext.pdf |
| 19:23.06 | prpplague | is that considered the parallel port for the dreamcast? |
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| 19:25.51 | prpplague | alright.....who let the damm dirty ape in here? |
| 19:32.06 | prpplague | wmat: gosh that port is poorly implemented |
| 19:32.52 | wmat | prpplague: which? that PDF? |
| 19:33.02 | prpplague | wmat: no the DCPORT |
| 19:33.14 | wmat | ah, haha, yeah |
| 19:33.25 | prpplague | wmat: double usage for the address and data really cuts down on performance |
| 19:36.02 | wmat | there's not much left that's useful on the DC, I use it simply as an SH4 learning tool |
| 19:36.34 | prpplague | you'd need to get atleast 8mhz from the port doing spi if you wanted to use the enc28j60 |
| 19:36.53 | prpplague | wmat: what speed is the cpu running at? |
| 19:37.11 | wmat | 200Mhz |
| 19:37.17 | wmat | http://mc.pp.se/dc/cpu.html |
| 19:37.45 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:37.53 | prpplague | that might be enought to do it |
| 19:43.07 | prpplague | wmat: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=200 |
| 19:43.08 | prpplague | wmat: you could wire that up pretty easy |
| 19:43.08 | prpplague | wmat: problem you are gonna have is that it doesn't appear to have a irq line available on the DCPORT |
| 19:43.08 | mallum | hey prpplague :) |
| 19:43.33 | prpplague | mallum: whats cookin? |
| 19:43.38 | prpplague | mallum: baby doing ok? |
| 19:43.46 | mallum | yeah going good :) |
| 19:43.58 | prpplague | wmat: probably could look at the code for the bba to see how there were able to do the irq |
| 19:44.07 | prpplague | wmat: or if they are just running it in poll'd mode |
| 19:44.41 | prpplague | wmat: you could do it with a 8bit packet-wacker design in poll'd mode |
| 19:45.15 | jbevren | prpplague: I'm pretty sure the 8139's run in interrupt mode |
| 19:46.27 | prpplague | jbevren: then there must be an irq on the dcport somewhere |
| 19:46.47 | jbevren | prpplague: http://cadcdev.sourceforge.net/hdwrprj/navi/ |
| 19:46.48 | jbevren | :D |
| 19:48.51 | prpplague | hmm |
| 19:48.55 | wmat | jbevren: heh, neat link |
| 19:48.55 | prpplague | no hardware docs |
| 19:49.18 | wmat | prpplague: i probably have something somewehre, i just need to find it |
| 19:53.32 | jbevren | wmat: the page that had the original hack is gone :( |
| 19:53.40 | jbevren | they had the port pinouts (enough for the isabus card) |
| 19:56.04 | wmat | jbevren: no google cache |
| 19:56.22 | wmat | or wayback machine page |
| 19:59.05 | prpplague | interesting, the cdrom port looks to be a much better implemented port |
| 20:00.07 | wmat | gdrom ;) |
| 20:00.15 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:00.21 | prpplague | wmat: is that port used for much? |
| 20:00.40 | wmat | the gdrom is connected to it ;) |
| 20:01.03 | prpplague | ok so most people have a gdrom? |
| 20:01.35 | wmat | prpplague: the dreamcast is a gdrom, basically |
| 20:01.43 | wmat | the games are on gdrom disks |
| 20:02.00 | jbevren | nod |
| 20:02.04 | jbevren | high-density cd media |
| 20:02.16 | jbevren | dreamcast disks are triple-session |
| 20:02.29 | jbevren | first two are boot code and an audio track (that generally notes that its for dreamcast when played) |
| 20:02.38 | jbevren | and the remainder is high-density format coming to around 1gig |
| 20:03.32 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:04.03 | prpplague | well i see several people seem to suspect that the pins for the dcport are just connected to gpio's on the processor |
| 20:04.10 | prpplague | if that is the case, you could do alot |
| 20:04.31 | jbevren | prpplague: that wouldnt surprise me much honestly |
| 20:04.40 | jbevren | however, I do know its fast enough to do 100Mbit |
| 20:04.51 | jbevren | I used my DC as a 1-wire router for a short time heh |
| 20:05.55 | chouimat|ibook | cool ... |
| 20:07.04 | prpplague | jbevren: interesting |
| 20:07.27 | wmat | jbevren: i believe there's a long doc out there describing that |
| 20:07.40 | prpplague | jbevren: well if that is the cause you could bit bang spi to enc28j60 easy |
| 20:07.58 | jbevren | prpplague: (if you know networking) I enabled VLAN support in the kernel and used a vlan switch as a port concentrator |
| 20:08.15 | prpplague | it really doesn't look like there is irq support though |
| 20:14.31 | wmat | prpplague: http://www.koders.com/c/fid73391980EF5A7AB33AA41556410DC7B91EB96480.aspx |
| 20:15.22 | prpplague | you could bit bang spi to a enc28j60 using address offset of 0x00 and 0x01 for 0 and 1 levels outgoing, and get data back on 0x10 and 0x20 |
| 20:17.06 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: interesting |
| 20:17.52 | prpplague | wmat: thats general irq support |
| 20:17.59 | prpplague | wmat: wheres the code for the bba ? |
| 20:18.53 | chouimat|ibook | prpplague: pci.c have some iirc |
| 20:20.35 | wmat | prpplague: here's the dma code, you can link out to the other code from there |
| 20:20.37 | wmat | http://lxr.linux.no/source/arch/sh/drivers/pci/dma-dreamcast.c?v=2.6.18;a=sh |
| 20:21.13 | prpplague | hmmmmmm |
| 20:21.54 | prpplague | hmm wonder what that bba driver would be called |
| 20:22.01 | wmat | 8139too.c |
| 20:22.04 | wmat | http://lxr.linux.no/source/drivers/net/8139too.c?v=2.6.18;a=sh |
| 20:23.05 | prpplague | interesting, its just using the standard 8139 driver |
| 20:23.48 | wmat | i believe so, as that's what the HIT-401 is based on |
| 20:25.04 | prpplague | interesting that it does appear to simulate a pci interface |
| 20:25.47 | chouimat|ibook | http://www.fuzzymuzzle.com/Bitmaster/Parallel_Port.htm <--- is this the dcport? |
| 20:26.28 | wmat | prpplague: here's a a driver from ecos: |
| 20:26.40 | wmat | http://cvs.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ecos-h8/ecos/packages/devs/eth/sh/dreamcast/current/cdl/sh_dreamcast_rltk8139_eth_drivers.cdl?rev=1.3&view=markup |
| 20:27.17 | prpplague | chouimat|ibook: yea |
| 20:28.24 | wmat | gotta run; must prepare for kids birtday party this weekend (i.e. go to beer store) |
| 20:28.26 | prpplague | very interesting |
| 20:28.33 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:28.33 | chouimat|ibook | wmat: hehe ;) |
| 20:28.45 | prpplague | wmat: i'll have a look |
| 20:28.47 | prpplague | wmat: at this |
| 20:28.49 | wmat | cool |
| 20:28.50 | prpplague | wmat: i'm curious |
| 20:28.53 | prpplague | later |
| 20:28.57 | wmat | later |
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| 22:46.32 | jbevren | ls |
| 22:46.33 | jbevren | erm |
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