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| 13:29.33 | prpplague | wmat_away: ping |
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| 13:50.26 | isenbeck | jbevren, mornin' |
| 13:53.16 | prpplague | isenbeck: hey |
| 13:53.28 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:54.08 | isenbeck | prpplague, hey..didn't see you in there |
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| 13:57.20 | isenbeck | prpplague, please send pics of sunrise............... |
| 13:57.23 | prpplague | isenbeck: hehe forgot to identify when i logged in |
| 13:57.37 | isenbeck | prpplague, heh............like you are up that early :) |
| 13:57.38 | prpplague | isenbeck: hehe, not really any good ones here, i find the ones in texas much better |
| 13:57.50 | isenbeck | prpplague, MYSELF |
| 13:58.02 | prpplague | isenbeck: hehe actually i am since the people here are morning people |
| 14:04.09 | isenbeck | prpplague, I gotta get my birth certificate so I can get a passport.......... |
| 14:04.43 | prpplague | isenbeck: hehe yea thats always fun |
| 14:05.23 | prpplague | isenbeck: getting a new one for chandler was a nightmare because normally you have to have both parents signatures, and my ex was of course dead |
| 14:06.42 | prpplague | jbevren: i figured out how to connect a enc28j60 to a dreamcast G2 bus |
| 14:07.26 | jbevren | prpplague: cool |
| 14:08.36 | jbevren | prpplague: on the wiki? :) |
| 14:08.43 | prpplague | jbevren: you could use the olimex or edtp board with just a few components |
| 14:08.55 | prpplague | jbevren: no, i don't have anything to test it with so..... |
| 14:09.18 | jbevren | meh :) |
| 14:09.25 | jbevren | just add a note at the top that its untested ;) |
| 14:10.07 | jbevren | I got a free infinity 7000-m10 this weekend heh |
| 14:15.18 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:15.52 | jbevren | reminds me of what you get when you buy a real server from a real company ;) |
| 14:16.04 | jbevren | the front panel is pretty cool.. wonder if there's a linux driver for it |
| 14:16.22 | jbevren | 2x16 char vfd display with two buttons |
| 14:28.18 | prpplague | T0mW: ping |
| 14:42.18 | jbevren | prpplague: So where'd you find info on the G2 bus? |
| 14:42.34 | chouimat | hi jbevren prpplague |
| 14:42.42 | jbevren | chouimat: morning |
| 14:42.55 | chouimat | prpplague: tell me if you find a way to connect the dm9000 ;) |
| 14:43.26 | prpplague | chouimat: i'm not familiar with the dm9000 but with some latches you could do a 16 bit address and 16 bit data |
| 14:43.37 | prpplague | jbevren: cobbled together from different places |
| 14:43.47 | prpplague | jbevren: i was able to identify the pin with the irq line |
| 14:43.57 | prpplague | jbevren: so that enables us to use the enc28j60 |
| 14:44.01 | chouimat | prpplague: I know olimex make a board for this one so |
| 14:44.02 | jbevren | see, this should be on the wiki ;-) |
| 14:44.13 | chouimat | hehe |
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| 15:02.41 | wmat | prpplague: you book tix? when are you leaving? |
| 15:03.04 | chouimat | wmat: I'm looking at sysadmin job in the gov ... |
| 15:03.35 | wmat | chouimat: good luck |
| 15:03.49 | chouimat | wmat: yup |
| 15:04.44 | prpplague | wmat: not yet, still looking, probably around jan 4 or 5 |
| 15:04.56 | chouimat | wmat: and embedded stuff too but I'm tired of working for morons who starts company and have no clues ... next time I work for a startup it will be because it's mine :) |
| 15:05.05 | prpplague | question, if you don't have the BBA do you even enable PCI for the the DC kernel? |
| 15:05.23 | chouimat | prpplague: no clue |
| 15:05.27 | wmat | chouimat: that's a common theme in embedded work, i've found |
| 15:05.50 | wmat | prpplague: I've only ever used the defconfig in the SH kernel tree |
| 15:05.56 | wmat | for DC, I mean |
| 15:06.11 | wmat | i've never actually tweaked the config |
| 15:07.24 | wmat | then again, i've never not had a BBA ;) |
| 15:07.34 | chouimat | prpplague: was more playing with netbsd and kos ;) |
| 15:08.56 | wmat | bbiab, have to take my daughter to the doctor :( |
| 15:09.04 | prpplague | wmat: ahh, what kind of transfer rates do you get with your BBA? |
| 15:09.42 | wmat_away | prpplague: i can't remember off hand |
| 15:10.25 | chouimat | anybody have a good doc on how to tweak spamassassin? |
| 15:11.18 | prpplague | not i |
| 15:21.23 | prpplague | jbevren: so you'd need to do 16 pci read's for one transaction |
| 15:21.49 | prpplague | jbevren: think that would be a performance hit? |
| 15:22.11 | jbevren | prpplague: relative to the speed of ethernet? I think it'd be ok |
| 15:24.19 | prpplague | jbevren: more on the host side |
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| 15:36.38 | jbevren | prpplague: I dont know how well the bus is optimized (i.e. can ram access continue during pci wait?) |
| 15:40.20 | prpplague | jbevren: i've not dealt with alot pci devices |
| 15:40.46 | prpplague | jbevren: it make be easier to go with just a cs8900 device than with the enc28j60 |
| 15:41.33 | jbevren | prpplague: nod. more wire, less code |
| 15:41.36 | jbevren | tradeoff ;) |
| 15:41.44 | prpplague | jbevren: true |
| 15:41.55 | jbevren | prpplague: considered a shiftregister for the encj2860 setup? |
| 15:42.07 | prpplague | jbevren: if i by pass the pci configuration and access the registers directly i could improve performance |
| 15:42.18 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, i was trying to keep it simple |
| 15:42.59 | jbevren | ah |
| 15:43.10 | jbevren | instead of adding a G2bus support option to the kernel? :) |
| 15:43.14 | prpplague | jbevren: use two shift registers |
| 15:43.21 | jbevren | prpplague: nod |
| 15:43.22 | jbevren | one in, one out |
| 15:43.28 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 15:43.37 | jbevren | I know the basics of SPI |
| 15:43.49 | jbevren | every time you want a byte, you have to send one |
| 15:43.51 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:43.53 | prpplague | problem is just don't have a DC to experiment with |
| 15:47.09 | jbevren | nod |
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| 15:53.27 | prpplague | AMDPenguin: greetings crack baby |
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| 15:58.28 | philv | In-ter-net! |
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| 16:10.16 | prpplague | philv: in one of our many meetings with USCIS i had to fill out a form with my employement info |
| 16:10.33 | prpplague | philv: i put "Embedded Linux Developer" and the woman asked what that is |
| 16:10.41 | philv | Oh? |
| 16:10.57 | prpplague | philv: when i told her, she scratch it out and wrote "WWW" |
| 16:12.15 | prpplague | philv: i asked her about it but all she could understand was it was something to do with "the net" |
| 16:13.26 | prpplague | sjhill: hey hey |
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| 16:15.42 | chouimat | prpplague: LOL |
| 16:16.29 | prpplague | lately i just tell people i design software for handheld computers |
| 16:16.36 | prpplague | that seems to go over well |
| 16:17.40 | prpplague | the other one that people don't seem to think is funny is when they ask what i do for a living and i respond "well i'm basically an intellectual prostitute" |
| 16:19.09 | philv | Hahaha |
| 16:23.30 | chouimat | prpplague: this is the basic definition of a consultant ;) |
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| 17:05.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: ho ho ho, merry freakin monday |
| 17:05.56 | GPSFan | prpplague: g'day, how's trix? |
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| 17:10.45 | prpplague | GPSFan: she's ok, but getting a little old, she don't bring in as much as the rest of my girls, hehe |
| 17:11.13 | CosmicPenguin | man, what is the matter with you? :) |
| 17:11.25 | GPSFan | lol, time to send her off to the glue factory... |
| 17:11.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what? hehe don't like my jokes today? hehe |
| 17:12.05 | CosmicPenguin | s/today// |
| 17:12.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 17:12.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are they that bad? |
| 17:12.43 | CosmicPenguin | heh - nah |
| 17:13.22 | CosmicPenguin | I really like google reader |
| 17:17.47 | chouimat|bored | I like this quote "Nothing motivates a man more than to see his boss put in an honest day's work." |
| 17:23.46 | prpplague | its been creaping back up close to $3 |
| 17:27.22 | philv | I thought they just got nailed really hard by IBM too |
| 17:27.45 | jbevren | Microsoft probably bought some more shares to inflate the market |
| 17:28.29 | CosmicPenguin | there's money to be had |
| 17:28.42 | CosmicPenguin | why did AMD plummet 6 bucks after meeting the street estimates? |
| 17:29.07 | jbevren | sgi's suing ati? |
| 17:29.10 | jbevren | :) |
| 17:29.14 | philv | Yeah |
| 17:29.25 | jbevren | philv: that was a question-style answer for CP :) |
| 17:30.02 | philv | Haha, yeah |
| 17:30.39 | jbevren | they have a right (SGI), but I have issues with their timing |
| 17:31.47 | CosmicPenguin | No, their timing is perfect |
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| 17:50.41 | wmat | weee, a new (old) board arroved today :) |
| 17:51.25 | CosmicPenguin | I'm told that better then half of the authors listed in the patents quoted from SGI work for ATI |
| 17:51.38 | CosmicPenguin | or at least did at some time |
| 17:56.01 | wmat | prpplague: moving sucks |
| 17:57.25 | prpplague | wmat: specially from overseas |
| 17:57.38 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: buy on the rumor, sell on the news |
| 17:57.43 | prpplague | wmat: try giving a barbados address on a rental application |
| 17:59.47 | wmat | heh, i bet |
| 18:01.42 | prpplague | just ready for it to be over with (as i am sure there are other people here that are tired of hearing me complain about it, hehe) |
| 18:07.43 | chouimat|bored | prpplague: no ... it's what make your charm ;) |
| 18:08.37 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:08.54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague + charm |
| 18:08.58 | CosmicPenguin | Zarro Bugs found |
| 18:09.46 | CosmicPenguin | heh - I'm being mean to prpplague today :( |
| 18:09.59 | CosmicPenguin | what with all the stress of moving from paradise back to... texas |
| 18:10.19 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:10.37 | CosmicPenguin | I would be stressed too |
| 18:11.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i'd be more worried if people just ignored me |
| 18:12.25 | prpplague | my main problem is that with me being here for almost two years, when they ask "previous address" they just freak out when i give them a barbados address |
| 18:19.58 | wmat | prpplague: were you working remotely from barbados? |
| 18:21.39 | prpplague | wmat: yea |
| 18:23.01 | wmat | how'd that work out for you? I'm hoping to do the same next year |
| 18:23.53 | prpplague | wmat: well i got my work done, but i really missed being in the office with the other people |
| 18:24.12 | wmat | yeah, that's my only worry actually |
| 18:24.18 | prpplague | wmat: i never realized how much i needed to communicate with similiar minded people on a daily basis |
| 18:24.38 | prpplague | wmat: and not being available in the labs for debugging and such can be a pain |
| 18:24.42 | wmat | that's not a problem for me as I have no similar minded coworkers |
| 18:24.50 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:25.12 | prpplague | wmat: yea, well to be honesty i've not had many either untill i started working at AML |
| 18:25.19 | prpplague | wmat: which was really nice |
| 18:25.43 | wmat | prpplague: i bet |
| 18:26.01 | prpplague | wmat: i've always been an outsider , i.e. i grew up in east texas where everyone is agg related |
| 18:26.10 | prpplague | wmat: so not exactly many geeks there |
| 18:26.28 | wmat | prpplague: same hear, just in northern ontario, not texas ;) |
| 18:26.30 | prpplague | wmat: so when i went to aml and everyone was like me, it was really nice |
| 18:26.48 | wmat | that's a rare find |
| 18:27.19 | prpplague | i can imagin someone from san jose or seattle going to east texas hehe, |
| 18:28.10 | wmat | any progress on discussion with Tim regarding the new embedded wiki and eLinux? |
| 18:28.11 | prpplague | "uh where are the starbucks?" "what do you mean none of the local music shops carry Spock's Beard" |
| 18:28.25 | prpplague | wmat: yea, i think we are closer to agreement |
| 18:28.31 | prpplague | wmat: probably hear something soon |
| 18:28.37 | wmat | prpplague: cool |
| 18:28.59 | wmat | are the Tim's in conversation or is this between yourself and Tim? |
| 18:29.24 | prpplague | wmat: between me and TimRiker |
| 18:29.31 | wmat | cool |
| 18:29.37 | prpplague | wmat: i had planned on speaking to him this evening about it |
| 18:29.51 | wmat | ok |
| 18:29.57 | prpplague | they delivered my 10' container this morning |
| 18:30.35 | wmat | heh |
| 18:31.34 | prpplague | hmm, $1000 each with 15 , thats $15000, minus $50 for some granola bars and poweraid drinks |
| 18:33.23 | wmat | you could likely get more than $1000 |
| 18:34.12 | prpplague | hmm, thats a pretty good amount of money for people here |
| 18:34.29 | prpplague | wmat: average income here is just $9000USD per year |
| 18:34.47 | prpplague | wmat: and the cost of living is extremely high |
| 18:35.05 | philv | prpplague: woah I have never seen another soul mention Spock's Beard |
| 18:35.13 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:35.23 | philv | A+ |
| 18:35.30 | prpplague | philv: chouimat|bored turned me on to them |
| 18:35.48 | philv | chouimat|bored: A+ |
| 18:35.56 | philv | Eloy is good shit too |
| 18:36.03 | philv | Slightly different vein though |
| 18:36.23 | prpplague | hehe, i'll have a look |
| 18:38.46 | philv | Of course, who can forget Marillion :D |
| 18:41.14 | wmat | philv: I'm trying hard to forget Marillion ;) |
| 18:41.20 | philv | :O |
| 18:41.24 | philv | wmat: why? |
| 18:43.16 | wmat | philv: actually, i'm just joking. I can't remember the last time I heard Marillion though, it must have been the 80's |
| 18:43.36 | prpplague | philv: oh i like |
| 18:43.42 | wmat | i seem to recall a court jester on the album cover |
| 18:43.58 | wmat | could be wrong though |
| 18:45.16 | prpplague | philv: i'm no audiphile, but Eloy does seem to have some hints of Pink Floyd , just not as dark |
| 18:46.04 | philv | prpplague: that's about where I'd put it :D |
| 18:46.08 | philv | They're pretty fun too |
| 18:46.16 | philv | wmat: ahhh, Script for a Jester's Tear iirc. |
| 18:46.25 | philv | wmat: that's early early Marillon... the later stuff gets better. |
| 18:46.29 | philv | :D |
| 18:46.36 | wmat | i may even have that album still |
| 18:46.47 | philv | Marbles, Anoraknophobia were both pretty good |
| 18:46.53 | philv | Different lead singer though |
| 18:47.10 | wmat | http://www.marillion.com/music/albums/script.htm |
| 18:47.16 | wmat | yep, that's the one |
| 18:48.33 | prpplague | philv: thanks for the pointer, i'll have to decide if i want to order them now or not, because they might not arrive before i leave |
| 18:50.04 | philv | prpplague: If you want to start listening sooner (then buy later; that's what I did), just *ahem* let me know |
| 18:50.26 | prpplague | philv: hehe, i'll keep that in mind |
| 18:50.37 | chouimat|bored | shit ... I lost octane |
| 18:51.08 | philv | prpplague: Porcupine Tree might be worthwhile checking out as well |
| 18:51.14 | philv | chouimat|bored: is that an SGI Octane? ;) |
| 18:51.25 | chouimat|bored | philv: no spock's beard |
| 18:51.33 | prpplague | philv: thanks i'll have a look this evening |
| 18:52.05 | philv | chouimat|bored: oooh |
| 18:52.05 | philv | prpplague: :D |
| 18:52.05 | prpplague | philv: yea you can really hear the Pink Floyd in their music |
| 18:53.11 | philv | Oh it is hard to be in that realm of music without having some sort of Pink Floyd inspiration, I guess eh? |
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| 18:54.47 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:55.23 | prpplague | philv: " The Beatles, The Moody Blues, The Who and Cream" |
| 18:55.53 | prpplague | philv: thats whats listed on some of their history page |
| 18:56.35 | prpplague | philv: hehe, i was wondering if they got the name from "The Time Machine" |
| 18:56.42 | prpplague | philv: and indeed they did |
| 18:57.05 | philv | :D |
| 18:57.31 | philv | Fuck, I have class tonight at 4:00 but I have to miss it thanks to arbitrary deadlines |
| 18:57.41 | philv | >:( |
| 18:58.10 | prpplague | philv: just a note, we try to keep the language down here as there are alot of people at work that have to go through proxies |
| 18:58.19 | prpplague | philv: don't want the channel to get blocked |
| 18:59.14 | prpplague | philv: (i was in the army so i know how to swear so its not a problem for me, just don't want to get blocked from work) |
| 18:59.29 | philv | Oh sorry :( |
| 18:59.44 | philv | My bad |
| 19:00.01 | prpplague | philv: np |
| 19:00.06 | philv | I IRC via ssh so I forget some people actually IRC from work ;) |
| 19:03.08 | chouimat|bored | ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGG fucking morons!!! |
| 19:03.10 | chouimat|bored | ooops |
| 19:03.54 | prpplague | chouimat|bored: bad bad |
| 19:04.01 | philv | hehe |
| 19:04.01 | prpplague | chouimat|bored: i just warned philv about that |
| 19:04.33 | philv | Just in case |
| 19:04.41 | prpplague | chouimat|bored: try to perform a little restraint, please |
| 19:04.51 | philv | s/[the f word]/bunnies/g |
| 19:04.56 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:05.06 | philv | This might get amusing |
| 19:05.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/10/19/1555221.shtml?tid=37 |
| 19:05.28 | prpplague | wmat: yea, sorry about that |
| 19:05.31 | chouimat|bored | prpplague: sorry ... I'm just fighting with the project manager ... and I explain to him 25 times in the last hour that we don't need to use flex and bison ... and he's only argument is the Virgin Mary told me we need to use this ... |
| 19:05.39 | chouimat|bored | wmat: sorry ... |
| 19:05.52 | philv | wmat: yeah my apologies :( |
| 19:05.55 | prpplague | chouimat|bored: hehe |
| 19:06.02 | philv | chouimat|bored: I wish that was the problem I was fighting with |
| 19:06.32 | wmat | no worries, now if you could get the boss to stop swearing ;) |
| 19:06.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sounds like they just didn't do their homework |
| 19:07.07 | chouimat|bored | did I mention the guy knows absolutely nothing about programming ... and he always cut by 2/3 my time estimate because the Holy Something in his Head tell him I'm not right ... |
| 19:07.42 | chouimat|bored | prpplague: philv wmat I will now use french swear word ... :) |
| 19:08.15 | philv | uh oh, these can get frightening |
| 19:08.29 | wmat | chouimat|bored: I'm in canada, we filter on French curses too ;) |
| 19:08.32 | wmat | haha |
| 19:08.37 | chouimat|bored | hehe |
| 19:10.28 | wmat | why isn't there a free virtual desktop program for windows that doesn't suck the life out of a machine? |
| 19:12.21 | philv | wmat: I gave up on it and demanded they give me another monitor ;) |
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| 19:15.51 | netstatic | might not be the right channel but i'm gonna ask anyway :) what would be a common reason for a custom init script not to run at shutdown/reboot? i am using chkconfig and it gets added to runlevel 1 and 6 as off |
| 19:15.51 | wmat | philv: can't blame you |
| 19:16.13 | wmat | i've tried a few and they all bring an xp machine to a screeching halt |
| 19:16.53 | philv | Bleh |
| 19:17.13 | philv | Ok |
| 19:17.50 | philv | Does this make sense... to add two values in this crappy little internal language we use: "ASSIGN: "myVar = MATH(1 + $someVar)" |
| 19:17.57 | philv | I believe this is the most disgusting syntax I have ever seen |
| 19:18.01 | chouimat|bored | philv: I think he puts camera in my apartment because everytime I get up of the chair the phone rings and it's him ... |
| 19:18.18 | philv | Haha... creepy |
| 19:18.31 | philv | Maybe the Holy Whatsitsface tells him |
| 19:18.43 | chouimat|bored | probably ... |
| 19:19.12 | wmat | netstatic: is the script executable? |
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| 19:20.42 | netstatic | wmat: yes, it's set up correctly in /etc/init.d and the links are properly create in all rcx.d |
| 19:21.04 | T0mW | prpplague: populating a new PCB and bringing the system up is like Christmas morning when I was a kid. |
| 19:21.07 | philv | Where's that kind soul who offered to put me in touch with the mineral companies up north... I want to go to the Arctic |
| 19:21.11 | philv | Or arrange for a horrible injury |
| 19:21.40 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, yea i know the feeling |
| 19:22.15 | chouimat|bored | philv: nail gun + yours ball should do the trick ;) |
| 19:22.56 | T0mW | prpplague: UPS FINALLY(!!!) got the boards out of Philadelphia and up to here for delivery, they've been down there since Friday morning |
| 19:23.45 | prpplague | which reminds me i need to check on your package |
| 19:25.20 | wmat | netstatic: sorry, it's hard to say really |
| 19:25.26 | prpplague | bbiab |
| 19:25.50 | netstatic | wmat: i've been battling with it for a while.. for the life of me can't figure it out |
| 19:26.09 | philv | chouimat|bored: I was hoping for a broken leg or something |
| 19:26.11 | wmat | netstatic: here's a good walkthrough of the process as it applies to gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=4 |
| 19:27.58 | wmat | netstatic: when you do ls -l /etc/rc1.d/S98/yourscript do you get the link listed correctly? |
| 19:30.05 | netstatic | wmat: i'm on a rh9 sys.. so /etc/rc1.d/S99myscript links correctly |
| 19:32.37 | netstatic | (the script is actually on in 2345 and off in 1,6) |
| 19:33.39 | wmat | well, 6 is reboot, is it not? |
| 19:33.57 | netstatic | wmat: yes, i need the script to run on reboot |
| 19:35.20 | wmat | so I'd say turn the script on for runlevel 6 then |
| 19:37.24 | netstatic | wmat: i need it to run a stop, sorry. i meant to say i need it to shut off on reboot |
| 19:41.00 | wmat | so you want it to not restart after a reboot |
| 19:41.09 | wmat | but start on a normal boot? |
| 19:43.59 | netstatic | wmat: i want to to start on a normal boot and stop on a reboot. (it will write a file to /var/tmp on reboot and read that file on boot) |
| 19:48.05 | wmat | I'd say you need a second script that only runs at runlevel 6 to do the writing bit |
| 19:49.32 | netstatic | wmat: why so? |
| 19:50.13 | wmat | because your first script won't run at runlevel 6, so how can it do the write? |
| 19:52.49 | wmat | netstatic: are we talking about a run-once script, or a daemon that's actually running(as a process) at reboot? |
| 19:53.24 | wmat | cause if it's the latter, just have the daemon write out the file before it stops |
| 19:58.34 | netstatic | wmat: wmat, it's a daemon.. will run on startup and run on reboot.. (i am trying to check if a system was shutdown properly.. so on reboot, i write a temp file, then on startup, if the file exists, it was a clean reboot.. if not, the system was not cleanly rebooted) |
| 20:00.14 | netstatic | it runs fine on startup.. but never runs on shutdown |
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| 20:01.50 | wmat | netstatic: i'm out of guesses ;) |
| 20:02.10 | wmat | prpplague: http://linux-sh.org/shwiki/Dreamcast |
| 20:02.51 | wmat | prpplague: just thought i'd point you at the DC wiki page in case you feel like posting your thoughts ;) |
| 20:03.51 | netstatic | wmat: haha, i think you just solved the puzzle.. give me a sec and i'll let you knwo |
| 20:09.36 | prpplague | wmat: yea, thanks, already found that |
| 20:09.45 | prpplague | wmat: i usually post to elinux.org though |
| 20:10.06 | netstatic | wmat: i was missing a lock file |
| 20:10.11 | netstatic | wmat: that's all it was.. wow.. |
| 20:10.32 | wmat | prpplague: i'm smelling another embedded project amalgamation point here ;) |
| 20:10.45 | wmat | netstatic: cool, glad you got it working |
| 20:11.10 | netstatic | wmat: thanks, what got me thinking about it was you mentioning deamon :) |
| 20:11.55 | prpplague | wmat: hehe |
| 20:12.24 | prpplague | wmat: i looked it over some more, we can do an enc28j60 with just one jk flip-flop |
| 20:12.34 | prpplague | wmat: and a couple nand gates |
| 20:12.34 | wmat | prpplague: i know the linux-sh admin probably would be into it |
| 20:13.07 | wmat | prpplague: can you pass me the link to the enc28j60 again? |
| 20:13.22 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/enc28j60 |
| 20:14.14 | wmat | thx |
| 20:16.09 | prpplague | np |
| 20:18.20 | prpplague | wmat: you can get boards from edtp or sparkfun |
| 20:18.31 | prpplague | i prefer the edtp |
| 20:18.43 | wmat | prpplague: I want to minimize cost though by avoiding duty |
| 20:19.09 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:19.26 | prpplague | wmat: good luck, not sure that olimex or edtp have canadian reps |
| 20:22.40 | prpplague | wmat: yea a minimized version of the IDE interface that bitmaster posted can be used to do spi |
| 20:23.02 | prpplague | wmat: only problem is that it will take 16 reads to do one transaction with the enc28j60 |
| 20:27.00 | chouimat|bored | wmat: http://optimal-microsystems.com/store/index.php?cPath=27&osCsid=967c839937f5bb1916c76c0859ad89c5 |
| 20:27.15 | chouimat|bored | wmat: it's where I get my olimex board |
| 20:27.39 | wmat | chouimat|bored: thx! |
| 20:28.21 | chouimat|bored | wow the DM9000E and the enc28j60 are the same price ... |
| 20:34.30 | prpplague | i just don't how the perfomance will be |
| 20:36.04 | wmat | prpplague: performance is not that big an issue for SH4 dev |
| 20:36.04 | prpplague | i suspect that we'd probably only get around 2MB/s |
| 20:36.04 | wmat | i mean, the fast the better but it's not a showstopper |
| 20:36.09 | prpplague | sorry i meant 2mb/s |
| 20:36.33 | prpplague | no where near the 10mb/s of 10baseT |
| 20:36.51 | wmat | but better than serial |
| 20:40.13 | chouimat|bored | dcload-serial can get 500K and 1.56M baud if you use a FTDI USB-Serial converter (currently FT232BM with a 6.144 Mhz cristal) :) |
| 20:40.18 | wmat | chouimat|bored: http://ca.digikey.com/digihome.html |
| 20:40.47 | wmat | they're cdn too |
| 20:41.18 | prpplague | chouimat|bored: nice |
| 20:41.19 | wmat | and they carry the ENC28J60 as well |
| 20:41.54 | chouimat|bored | prpplague: currently using the serial cable with slip ... |
| 20:42.00 | prpplague | well with a standard spi controller running at 8mhz, i can get about 8.5mb |
| 20:42.30 | prpplague | i'm sure with some optomizations you get pretty darn close to 10mb |
| 20:42.35 | prpplague | but thats as far as i got |
| 20:42.58 | wmat | chouimat|bored: are you doing some SH4 dev? |
| 20:43.46 | chouimat|bored | wmat: some ... but currently I'm stuck on arm7 and arm9 ... ok the board are great ... it's just the moron with whom I work |
| 20:44.42 | wmat | chouimat|bored: i just got an ARM7 board today to tinker with |
| 20:45.00 | prpplague | wmat: which one? |
| 20:45.11 | wmat | atmel AT91EB40A |
| 20:45.24 | prpplague | eww |
| 20:45.44 | prpplague | what made you choose that? |
| 20:46.37 | wmat | naivete |
| 20:47.07 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:47.11 | chouimat|bored | wmat: I have to parse this [1222] 12 14 r 2 345 v ... the first and second number after the one in [] are optional ... but the meaning of each of them depend of their position in the string ... and it seems that the Virgin Mary told him that flex and bison where the tool we must use ... just spend the last hour writing a 45 pages email explaining why they where overkill and completely useless for this ... with example code and etc ... |
| 20:49.03 | chouimat|bored | wmat: yay ... I got over ruled again ... and people wonder why I'm having a drinking problem |
| 20:49.28 | wmat | chouimat|bored: typical |
| 20:49.36 | CosmicPenguin | If it makes you feel any better, we never wondered why you have a drinking problem |
| 20:49.54 | wmat | chouimat|bored: I just figured it was because you are canadian |
| 20:50.34 | chouimat|bored | thnks |
| 20:51.05 | CosmicPenguin | heh flex and bison |
| 20:51.41 | chouimat|bored | bbl ... my gf is getting ready to go to work ... maybe I will join her in the shower ... better than cursing at this assh*le |
| 20:51.55 | wmat | chouimat|bored: good luck, on all counts ;) |
| 20:51.59 | CosmicPenguin | enjoy |
| 20:52.54 | chouimat|bored | awww she just read this and said no .. . :( |
| 20:53.41 | CosmicPenguin | sucks to be you |
| 20:54.08 | CosmicPenguin | commit done - OFW is now king |
| 20:54.13 | CosmicPenguin | oops - you all don't care about that |
| 20:54.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 20:56.21 | chouimat|bored | CosmicPenguin: she wasn't supposed to work today ... and she have to be there for 16:30 |
| 20:57.04 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - but you're only going to take like 5 minutes anyway - thats plenty of time |
| 20:58.40 | chouimat|bored | hehehe ... |
| 21:03.45 | wmat | 5 minutes! that's not very efficient ;) |
| 21:15.45 | jbevren | prpplague: I just noticed your creation is on linuxdevices |
| 21:18.31 | wmat | which one is his? |
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| 21:20.29 | wmat | oh wait, i see it |
| 21:21.15 | jbevren | bbl |
| 21:23.52 | chouimat|bored | & |
| 22:06.38 | prpplague | jbevren: which creation? |
| 22:06.57 | prpplague | i have 4 or 5 on linuxdevices.com |
| 22:16.03 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:16.05 | netstatic | Z/part |
| 22:16.07 | jbevren | the most recent one:) |
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| 22:27.50 | prpplague | jbevren: ahh |
| 22:27.59 | prpplague | jbevren: how did you run across that? |
| 22:29.45 | jbevren | it was in the articles list on the front page |
| 22:32.10 | prpplague | oh |
| 23:03.49 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm - I wonder what the difference between pentium-mmx and i586 is |
| 23:03.56 | CosmicPenguin | except for the MMX, of course |
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