| 03:10.38 | LyosNorezel | prpplague: you around? |
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| 03:28.30 | LyosNorezel | philv: connection issues? |
| 03:31.24 | LyosNorezel | is anyone around? |
| 03:51.06 | LyosNorezel | http://cgi.ebay.com/ATMEL-Flash-Memory-Chip-49LV8011T-QTY_W0QQitemZ200047408023QQihZ010QQcategoryZ36332QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <-- holy crap |
| 03:51.16 | LyosNorezel | ^anyone need flash chips?^ |
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| 11:43.40 | surfbuddy | does metowerks codewarrior support ARM related microcontrollers also ? |
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| 12:43.12 | dhawal | Code anyone pls guide me out with filesystem code |
| 12:44.29 | dhawal | could anyone pls guide me out with filesystem code |
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| 13:25.08 | prpplague | wmat: ping |
| 13:39.50 | isenbeck | mornin, |
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| 13:43.27 | prpplague | isenbeck: hey |
| 13:43.31 | prpplague | isenbeck: got your IM |
| 13:43.35 | prpplague | isenbeck: good to hear |
| 13:45.21 | isenbeck | yeah I need to get somethingto pull these pics off of my treo |
| 13:45.30 | isenbeck | prpplague, got some great pics of this weekend |
| 13:46.11 | prpplague | isenbeck: cool |
| 13:50.01 | isenbeck | prpplague, hannah called me about two hours after I took 'em home and wanted to know when I was coming home |
| 13:50.20 | isenbeck | prpplague, I dont know if she realizes what is happening or not |
| 13:50.39 | isenbeck | prpplague, cord does though |
| 13:51.10 | prpplague | isenbeck: yea its gonna be rough for a little while |
| 13:51.22 | prpplague | isenbeck: where are you staying? |
| 13:52.06 | isenbeck | The owner of the company (whom I fired a few weeks ago ) put me up in his 3bdrm 1.5 bath house |
| 13:52.28 | isenbeck | prpplague, 1800 square feet..fully furnished |
| 13:52.42 | isenbeck | prpplague, HUGE yard with kids all over the place |
| 13:53.24 | isenbeck | prpplague, he went a bought food and laundry det. and basically everything a person needs to live in a house |
| 13:53.56 | isenbeck | prpplague, that man is definately going to heaven |
| 13:56.29 | prpplague | isenbeck: cooooool |
| 13:56.37 | prpplague | isenbeck: good deal |
| 13:57.26 | isenbeck | prpplague, yeah to say the least |
| 13:57.46 | prpplague | isenbeck: donna is getting all nervous about the move |
| 13:57.51 | prpplague | isenbeck: she doesn't like moving |
| 13:58.01 | prpplague | isenbeck: really puts her in a cranky mood |
| 13:58.06 | isenbeck | prpplague, nobody does.it is right up there with a root canal |
| 13:58.26 | prpplague | isenbeck: yea well, she's especially cranky |
| 13:58.49 | prpplague | isenbeck: i'm totally ready to go |
| 13:58.57 | prpplague | isenbeck: donna wants to wait until after new years |
| 13:59.07 | prpplague | isenbeck: but the ticket prices are thru the roof |
| 13:59.20 | prpplague | isenbeck: thats why i want to go on the 29th |
| 13:59.37 | isenbeck | prpplague, well you have to be back b4 the first huh ? |
| 13:59.49 | prpplague | isenbeck: yea |
| 13:59.58 | prpplague | isenbeck: which means stress stress |
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| 14:18.52 | wmat | prpplague: pong |
| 14:22.52 | prpplague | wmat: latest wiki news? |
| 14:24.00 | wmat | prpplague: well, i've been moving slowly, however, the day job is beginning to wind down for the christmas system freeze, so i'll be able to dedicate more time now |
| 14:24.39 | wmat | prpplague: i'm going to get all set up at work to begin moving the old site w/o actually looking like i'm not working on work ;) |
| 14:25.16 | wmat | i'd originally wanted to have all of the old content over by now |
| 14:28.35 | wmat | bbiab, meeting time |
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| 14:39.15 | surfbuddy | does metrowerks code warrios provide ARM support ? |
| 14:39.48 | prpplague | hmm, well, seeing how this is not a metrowerks support channel, i doubt anyone would know |
| 14:42.28 | surfbuddy | prpplague, alrite...if u remeber , i am the same newbie who discussed about Atmel C startup code.. ( student in Germany ) |
| 14:43.08 | surfbuddy | prpplague, you told me that, one does not need a startup code, if one has the bootloader..in my case, i had u-boot |
| 14:44.45 | prpplague | surfbuddy: i think we are discussing two different "startup codes" |
| 14:47.55 | surfbuddy | prpplague, I am talking about hte startup code which initiaslises the interrupt vector table |
| 14:50.40 | prpplague | surfbuddy: yea, if you have a bootloader, no need for that, its handled in the bootloader |
| 14:52.19 | surfbuddy | prpplague, yes, you were right and i found startup.S in the source code of U boot |
| 15:04.05 | T0mW | prpplague: the lockup is not in the kernel. kdrive-xserver is locking when I have the LCD controller mode set for STN, it doesn't do it if the LCD controller is in TFT mode. weird. |
| 15:05.52 | prpplague | T0mW: well thats odd |
| 15:07.10 | T0mW | prpplague: I know, I'm thinking that I'll need to do an nfs mount of the kdrive-xserver build dir, then a gdb on the target, that way I'll have to do some source level debug on the xserver? |
| 15:07.47 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:07.52 | prpplague | that sounds reasonable |
| 15:07.58 | T0mW | prpplague: unless, I can slave a copy of gdb on the target via TCP to one on the development host? |
| 15:08.58 | T0mW | prpplague: not sure, but running gdb on the target to load symbols, and have access to source, may not be necessary? What's sense of it? |
| 15:09.10 | T0mW | er |
| 15:09.24 | T0mW | s/What's sense of it?/What's your sense of that? |
| 15:10.11 | T0mW | prpplague: I've so much work to do lately that I've been considering getting rid of the couch in my living room and replacing it with another workbench! |
| 15:10.14 | prpplague | T0mW: i'd actually start with just enabling the highest amount of logging for kdrive |
| 15:10.31 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 15:10.51 | prpplague | T0mW: get rid of the bed, you don't need that |
| 15:10.57 | T0mW | prpplague: the couch is not something I'd worry about losing, I need some new furniture anyway. |
| 15:11.20 | T0mW | prpplague: heh, with the women who have been showing up in my life lately, I don't need to sleep here. |
| 15:12.37 | T0mW | prpplague: ah, here's a question for you. the s3c2410 manual is not clear on this, but, is it possible to have two USB host ports on that processor instead of one host and one slave? |
| 15:13.01 | T0mW | prpplague: it seems to suggest that |
| 15:13.03 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 15:13.14 | prpplague | T0mW: just wire up the second port the same as the first |
| 15:13.31 | prpplague | T0mW: only thing is the default condition of the usb host driver in the kernel is for just one port |
| 15:13.47 | prpplague | T0mW: you;d need to add some info to the platform struct to activate both host ports |
| 15:13.51 | T0mW | good good, maybe I can put both the slave and a host connector on the board and simply reconfig the USB controller as needed. |
| 15:14.00 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:14.17 | prpplague | T0mW: really, i recomend not worring about it |
| 15:14.37 | prpplague | T0mW: if you need more than one host port, my recommendation is to use a small 2 or 4 port hub chip |
| 15:14.49 | T0mW | prpplague: in one system configuration, they want it to have dual host ports. |
| 15:15.09 | prpplague | T0mW: you gonna need any keyboard matrix? |
| 15:15.21 | T0mW | prpplague: oh, yeah, I could do that too, IIRC the host is able to handle 5 endpoints. |
| 15:16.54 | T0mW | prpplague: I sent that patch to rtp. I tried the LCD in 8bit (256 color) mode and got zilch out the data lines (no video). So AFIACT, it only fixes the 12bpp problem, the 8bpp is something that someone else would need to fix. |
| 15:17.15 | prpplague | T0mW: you gonna need any keyboard matrix? |
| 15:17.45 | T0mW | prpplague: no, there would only be a touch panel for normal operation. Then plug in a USB keyboard for complex tasks such as configuration. |
| 15:18.28 | T0mW | prpplague: if we need a keyboard matrix later, stick a small lpc2000 processor on the keypad and let it talk with the main cpu |
| 15:18.41 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh ok, well we are gonna use a usb keyboard matrix chip in our next design, the chip has a built in two port hub |
| 15:19.30 | prpplague | T0mW: works out pretty well |
| 15:19.31 | T0mW | prpplague: ok. with 14 spi circuits, I've got to be really carefull of the IRQ lines. |
| 15:19.38 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 15:19.56 | T0mW | prpplague: hence the 8bit STN display instead of the 24bit TFT |
| 15:19.57 | prpplague | T0mW: the usb keyboard matrix chip works pretty well |
| 15:20.10 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, as well as bandwidth |
| 15:20.53 | T0mW | prpplague: I got the FET transistors in, I'll rewire the touch panel circuit (a 4066 chip) and try out the ih3600 touch driver of the kernel. |
| 15:21.21 | T0mW | prpplague: like I said, I need another workbench, heh. Hey, did they ship that other board yet? |
| 15:26.30 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, but i don;t have the tracking number |
| 15:26.35 | prpplague | T0mW: been really busy |
| 15:26.38 | prpplague | T0mW: sorry for the delay |
| 15:26.48 | prpplague | T0mW: i'll try to find out about it this afternoon |
| 15:27.04 | T0mW | prpplague: no problem, I'll order another STN LCD for that unit. |
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| 15:29.55 | _slacker_ | hi, exists any repository for arm precompiled packages? |
| 15:33.14 | prpplague | _slacker_: depends on what you are looking for |
| 15:33.23 | prpplague | _slacker_: familiar has a number of packages available |
| 15:34.59 | prpplague | _slacker_: best if you compile it from source for your specific needs |
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| 16:02.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 16:02.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how goes it? |
| 16:02.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: snowy there yet? |
| 16:04.14 | CosmicPenguin | just cold |
| 16:04.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 16:08.01 | jbevren | Peter Jackson Will Not Be Making The Hobbit |
| 16:08.06 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.09 | sjhill | yes it is cold...brr |
| 16:10.12 | sjhill | 23F |
| 16:10.25 | jbevren | 36°F |
| 16:10.28 | wmat | nice! |
| 16:10.29 | jbevren | high 50 today |
| 16:16.10 | prpplague | 91F here today |
| 16:22.34 | agaffney | prpplague: ugh, too hot |
| 16:26.06 | _slacker_ | prpplague, you know a good howto for cross-compiling? i only need to compile a few apps not all the system, and i only found howto's that include instructions for compile the whole OE |
| 16:26.57 | prpplague | _slacker_: try http://buildroot.busybox.net |
| 16:27.07 | prpplague | _slacker_: that does for uclibc |
| 16:27.07 | _slacker_ | prpplague, i already have the arm toolchain but and now i'm trying to compile |
| 16:27.22 | prpplague | _slacker_: uh if you have a toolchain, thats all you need |
| 16:28.08 | _slacker_ | prpplague, i have these http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Linux26ToolsAndSources |
| 16:29.34 | prpplague | _slacker_: ok so whats the problem? |
| 16:53.59 | isenbeck | wmat your a glutton for punisment |
| 16:54.10 | isenbeck | wmat, 50F is too cold |
| 16:56.03 | philv | It's below 0 here today |
| 16:56.06 | philv | Or was this morning |
| 16:56.44 | philv | There was snow on the ground still at 11:00 though |
| 16:58.23 | _slacker_ | prpplague, it can't find some dependencies, i need to put the dependencies into /usr/local/arm/.... ? |
| 16:59.17 | _slacker_ | and i can use depends compiled with my standard gcc, or i need the depens compiled with the arm-gcc? |
| 17:00.58 | isenbeck | prpplague forgets Texas summer weather |
| 17:01.11 | isenbeck | prpplague, you'll be begging for 91F |
| 17:26.08 | sjhill | so |
| 17:26.23 | sjhill | uh, anyone have problems with busybox mount not working with NFS? |
| 17:31.34 | agaffney | define "not working" |
| 17:31.48 | agaffney | when did that happen? :P |
| 17:31.50 | agaffney | anyway... |
| 17:31.56 | agaffney | is it just hanging? |
| 17:32.03 | agaffney | if so, probably the lack of portmap |
| 17:32.41 | sjhill | no |
| 17:32.44 | sjhill | portmap is running |
| 17:32.55 | agaffney | what is it doing? |
| 17:33.05 | sjhill | if i use a native compiled 'mount' from utils-linux , it works fine |
| 17:33.18 | sjhill | i use the identical command line for both finaries |
| 17:33.21 | sjhill | binaries |
| 17:33.47 | sjhill | # mount -t nfs 192.168.38.26:/localfs/3ucpr750 /mnt |
| 17:33.47 | sjhill | mount: Mounting 192.168.38.26:/localfs/3ucpr750 on /mnt failed: Invalid argument |
| 17:34.15 | agaffney | I don't recall if I've ever tried to mount nfs from any of the gentoo netboot installs I've done on various arches |
| 17:35.18 | sjhill | #hmm |
| 17:35.32 | agaffney | your hmm was commented? :P |
| 17:36.05 | CosmicPenguin | He was in the irc room #hmmm |
| 17:37.32 | sjhill | http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2006-March/019789.html |
| 17:37.38 | sjhill | aparently it has not been fixed |
| 17:38.08 | agaffney | meh |
| 17:38.17 | agaffney | that's a long time for it to go without being fixed |
| 17:48.03 | sjhill | i'm going to revert from the 1.2.x series |
| 17:48.10 | sjhill | see if the 1.1.x series works or not |
| 18:13.21 | wmat | isenbeck: cold is not a punishment, it's a reward :) |
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| 18:31.27 | GPSFan | sjhill: I'm using busybox mount nfs on busybox 1.1.0. PPC kernel 2.6.13-rc3. it seems to work ok. Haven't tried any of the 1.2.x series as yet. |
| 18:57.14 | T0mW | anybody here do debug on an embedded kernel using JTAG + gdb ? |
| 19:05.54 | wmat | T0mW: some |
| 19:07.00 | T0mW | wmat: how do you prepare the kernel so that it is ready to debug? Just select that under kernel hacking of hte menuconfig to set debugging symbols to on? |
| 19:09.34 | wmat | T0mW: pretty much, yeah |
| 19:09.53 | wmat | T0mW: in the kernel hacking section enable CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL |
| 19:10.13 | T0mW | I can get an assembly code listing, but the source listing is not showing up in Insight |
| 19:11.00 | T0mW | I put a breakpoint on start_kernel, it stops there, but the source file doesn't show up. I did the dir build_arm/linux/init |
| 19:11.24 | T0mW | odd |
| 19:11.58 | T0mW | maybe I should just add '-g' to CFLAGS |
| 19:16.46 | T0mW | weird, I can print out global var values (p *mach_info) but I cannot print stack variables with gdb |
| 19:20.00 | T0mW | ah, CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y |
| 19:20.18 | T0mW | that'll make the code real interesting to debug! |
| 19:21.20 | wmat | heh |
| 19:21.36 | T0mW | wmat: no wonder I cannot view the locals |
| 19:21.51 | T0mW | wmat: they don't exist due to optimization, heh |
| 19:22.19 | wmat | stupid optimization ;) |
| 19:22.29 | T0mW | you know, JTAG sure beats the heck out of debugging via printk or just an LED |
| 20:12.52 | isenbeck | wmat, I can't stand the cold. I love good 'ol Southern heat |
| 20:23.28 | wmat | isenbeck: fair enough |
| 20:34.47 | LyosNorezel2 | isenbeck: you and me both |
| 20:34.51 | LyosNorezel2 | fecking snow |
| 20:54.43 | isenbeck | wmat, snow is enjoyable for about 24 hours |
| 20:54.56 | isenbeck | LyosNorezel, then it becomes a hazard and irritation |
| 20:58.03 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
| 20:58.28 | LyosNorezel2 | the second it gets below 70 deg F... |
| 20:58.36 | LyosNorezel2 | it's too fecking cold |
| 21:02.07 | isenbeck | another penguin victory |
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| 21:09.13 | isenbeck | reloading an ex-M$ server with linux as a mail server for a diamond importer |
| 21:30.32 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
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| 21:55.32 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: yea yea, don't mess with me today |
| 21:56.23 | LyosNorezel2 | uh oh... |
| 21:56.30 | LyosNorezel2 | that don't sound good |
| 21:59.11 | prpplague | amazing how much history and information is still not available on the internet |
| 21:59.48 | LyosNorezel2 | oh? |
| 22:00.29 | prpplague | lots of newspaper archives are still not available |
| 22:18.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 22:19.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats cookin? you've been really quiet lately |
| 22:19.08 | CosmicPenguin | just busy |
| 22:21.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 22:48.36 | Crofton | I am really sad the OJ special was cancelled |
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