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| 00:15.27 | philv | LyosNorezel: just remember, those aren't actual gate counts, that's a gate equivalence |
| 00:15.47 | philv | Or might even be gate count of the fabric itself D: |
| 00:25.32 | LyosNorezel | heh |
| 00:26.39 | LyosNorezel | philv: whats a good FPGA with 1Mil or more gates? |
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| 02:07.05 | sunrunner20 | LyosNorezel: spar5? |
| 02:07.33 | LyosNorezel | ???? |
| 02:07.36 | sunrunner20 | err |
| 02:07.39 | sunrunner20 | vertex 5 |
| 02:07.50 | sunrunner20 | or v4 |
| 02:07.50 | LyosNorezel | hmmm... ok |
| 02:07.55 | sunrunner20 | v4 will be cheaper |
| 02:08.12 | sunrunner20 | sorry, my mind likes to flip vertex and spartian around |
| 02:09.37 | sunrunner20 | MonMotha: acctually, its both xilinx and digilent on the silk |
| 02:09.52 | sunrunner20 | if xilinx is on there at all |
| 02:11.10 | MonMotha | sunrunner20: ah, ok |
| 02:11.22 | sunrunner20 | at least on my coolrunner board :) |
| 02:11.23 | MonMotha | I know the ones we have from Digilent just say Digilent. I was told the ones you buy from Xilinx have Xilinx on them |
| 02:11.37 | MonMotha | wasn't aware that they left the Digilent on there as well |
| 02:11.49 | sunrunner20 | i'm too lazy to check the other 3 something boards in the closet |
| 02:12.10 | MonMotha | I'm still waiting on my V2P |
| 02:12.14 | sunrunner20 | heh |
| 02:12.33 | MonMotha | I finally broke down and decided to get one since I can't check those out from school, and I'm eligible for academic pricing |
| 02:12.59 | sunrunner20 | i'm kinda lucky on that stuff |
| 02:13.04 | sunrunner20 | if i had the time to get into vhdl |
| 02:13.18 | sunrunner20 | i could get access to any board out there |
| 02:13.40 | sunrunner20 | granted, i coulden't take them out of hte offic |
| 02:14.21 | MonMotha | I need to learn VHDL |
| 02:14.25 | MonMotha | I only know Verilog |
| 02:15.02 | sunrunner20 | i only do VHDL because thats what my dad works with |
| 02:15.07 | sunrunner20 | (what little i know) |
| 02:15.30 | sunrunner20 | i only rember a few thins like ON_RISING_EDGE |
| 02:16.20 | MonMotha | always @(posedge clk) :P |
| 02:16.41 | sunrunner20 | or is it RISING_EDGE i don't rember |
| 02:18.17 | sunrunner20 | i'm just happy my dad isn't at risk for being layd off anymore |
| 02:37.06 | philv | For what it's worth, my S3 starter kit has a Xilinx and Digilent logo and my XUPV2P has only a Xilinx logo |
| 02:37.41 | philv | Also, VHDL hurts my wrists |
| 02:37.44 | philv | So verbose, uff :( |
| 02:42.17 | MonMotha | "When in doubt, parenthesize. At the very least it will let some poor schmuck bounce on the % key in vi." |
| 02:43.03 | philv | I am a sinner |
| 02:43.25 | philv | Because I don't use parenthesis unless I have to |
| 02:43.41 | MonMotha | I actually tend to overparenthesize |
| 02:43.54 | philv | I find it renders code unreadable |
| 02:47.01 | sunrunner20 | checked the underside |
| 02:47.28 | MonMotha | philv: I don't overparenthesize that much |
| 02:47.39 | MonMotha | I only tend to overparenthesize when it makes things clearer |
| 02:47.58 | MonMotha | or when I'm too lazy to look up the operator precedence for something I'm not sure of :) |
| 02:48.30 | philv | 8) |
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| 04:11.04 | LyosNorezel | grrrrrr.... I really, really wish I could move |
| 04:12.25 | LyosNorezel | the fucking KKK/IKA makes frontpage news here... how fucking stupid is that? |
| 04:13.06 | LyosNorezel | that batch of assholes should be gathered on a deserted island and nuked |
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| 17:05.01 | Crofton | anyoneknow much about gumstix? |
| 17:05.23 | prpplague | Crofton: some, why? |
| 17:05.30 | prpplague | Crofton: you considering one? |
| 17:05.31 | Crofton | just curious |
| 17:05.40 | Crofton | how much RAM do they have? |
| 17:05.42 | prpplague | Crofton: personally the cost is decieving |
| 17:05.50 | Crofton | in what way? |
| 17:05.53 | prpplague | Crofton: it varies depending on the model |
| 17:06.09 | prpplague | Crofton: because you have to have special expansion boards to mate with it |
| 17:06.29 | prpplague | Crofton: they adverstise that it's as low as $99 |
| 17:06.40 | prpplague | Crofton: problem is after all is said and done, you are gonna spend about $350 to get started with it |
| 17:07.06 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:07.22 | prpplague | Crofton: got a usage in mind? |
| 17:07.54 | Crofton | back to my original question,aroundhow much RAM do they have?> |
| 17:08.19 | prpplague | Crofton: i haven't looked recently, but iirc, they has 64mb ram and 32mb flash for the base model |
| 17:08.23 | Crofton | software radio |
| 17:08.23 | Crofton | I am always interested in different platforms, so guy came through the lab and asked about them |
| 17:08.44 | Crofton | that would be enough to be interestinf |
| 17:08.56 | Crofton | but I would rather have a PS3 :) |
| 17:09.16 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:09.33 | prpplague | Crofton: what are the specs you'd need for a software radio? |
| 17:09.51 | prpplague | Crofton: i'd be interested in providing some hardware in return for some documentation |
| 17:10.36 | Crofton | depends on what waveform you run :) |
| 17:10.38 | Crofton | I am serious about the PS3 :) |
| 17:10.38 | Crofton | that is some serious signal processing power |
| 17:10.46 | prpplague | Crofton: http://www.elinux.org/wiki/M5900 |
| 17:10.53 | prpplague | Crofton: check out the sodimm board |
| 17:10.57 | prpplague | Crofton: 200mhz |
| 17:11.15 | prpplague | Crofton: we can put as much as 128mb ram onbaord |
| 17:11.36 | Crofton | basically, for serious SDR work I need access to a DSP and/or a FPGA |
| 17:11.57 | prpplague | Crofton: does the gumstix ship with either? |
| 17:12.11 | Crofton | not really |
| 17:12.24 | Crofton | but I can use USB to get to a fpga |
| 17:12.52 | philv | That might get agonizing :( |
| 17:12.57 | prpplague | Crofton: email me a wish list, and i can see what i can cook up |
| 17:13.03 | Crofton | This is sexy |
| 17:13.03 | Crofton | http://www.lyrtech.com/DSP-development/dsp_fpga/sffsdrdevelopmentplatform.php |
| 17:13.06 | Crofton | but pricey |
| 17:13.37 | Crofton | I'll keep that in mind, but I have way to much to do, without tilting at windmills :) |
| 17:13.59 | philv | Has a nice FPGA on it |
| 17:14.03 | philv | XC4VSX35 |
| 17:14.06 | Crofton | yeah |
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| 17:41.57 | CosmicPenguin | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061130-8325.html |
| 17:42.06 | CosmicPenguin | That is a well written article - a little fanboyish, but thats to be expected |
| 17:42.26 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061129165103775 |
| 17:42.36 | CosmicPenguin | There, she almost breaks her arm patting herself on the back |
| 17:42.40 | CosmicPenguin | do you see the difference? |
| 17:46.30 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 17:48.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 17:48.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, i never denied she might be a little biased |
| 17:49.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when i get back to the states, i'm soooooo going to take a beer tour of the denver area |
| 17:49.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: might if after a hard evening of drinking i vomit and pass out on your front lawn? |
| 17:49.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: certainly |
| 17:50.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i promise not to molest your yard gnome to badly |
| 17:51.07 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 17:51.40 | CosmicPenguin | if you come up, I'll show you the very best beer Colorado has to offer |
| 17:52.06 | prpplague | hehe, my step daughter's father lives in longmont |
| 17:52.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we are planning a road trip thru new mexico to colorado to take her there to visit her father |
| 17:52.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so we'll probably be intown for a week or so |
| 17:53.29 | CosmicPenguin | We'll need to make sure that you know where the good brews are down south so you can hit those on your way up |
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| 20:20.11 | flyback | so any juicebox news recentely |
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| 20:30.55 | sjhill | so essentially, it looks like ifup in busybox cannot handle eth0:0 and such interfaces |
| 20:33.46 | CosmicPenguin | I can see that |
| 20:41.20 | CosmicPenguin | It is not often that I wish I knew more about web stuff |
| 20:41.21 | CosmicPenguin | but this is one of those times |
| 20:42.12 | CosmicPenguin | I really want a script that I can run in mutt to push the outlook file crap that I constantly get to google calendar |
| 20:45.57 | CosmicPenguin | they allow one to import an .ics or .csv file, but the APIs don't seem to support that |
| 20:46.06 | CosmicPenguin | it seems wasteful to me to parse the thing first and then send it |
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| 21:43.13 | isenbeck | prpplague, 25F and sleeting and in Longview right now |
| 22:08.25 | sunrunner20 | prpplague: snowing here in dallas |
| 22:08.29 | sunrunner20 | err |
| 22:08.31 | sunrunner20 | carrollton |
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