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| 04:01.58 | fog_proxy | Hi all. In linux network structures, which layer is upper, br0 or vlan0 ? |
| 04:02.26 | fog_proxy | I mean is bridge based on vlan or vlan based on bridge? |
| 04:19.22 | agaffney | that's a bit offtopic for this channel |
| 04:24.55 | fog_proxy | agaffney: so which channel will be the right one? can you kindly to advice? |
| 04:25.04 | agaffney | dunno |
| 04:25.06 | agaffney | but not here |
| 04:25.28 | agaffney | unless you're run into this while hacking on a small consumer electronics device, mostly ARM based :P |
| 04:25.42 | agaffney | and even then, it's not really on-topic :P |
| 04:25.47 | fog_proxy | agaffney: aha, thanks |
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| 05:50.18 | jbevren | fog: afaik, you can attach a bridge to a vlan |
| 05:50.21 | jbevren | or vice versa I mean |
| 05:50.38 | jbevren | bridging is for any ethernetlike interface, including vlans |
| 05:50.48 | dr-dotirc | true |
| 05:51.32 | dr-dotirc | as long as your udev rules are not mac based |
| 05:51.45 | dr-dotirc | udev for your nics that is |
| 05:51.51 | jbevren | lol |
| 05:51.58 | jbevren | if udev is preventing brctl from working, disable udev |
| 05:52.18 | jbevren | if you cant work without udev, read some books on linux ;-) |
| 05:52.46 | davidc___ | mknod is your friend ;) |
| 05:52.52 | dr-dotirc | yeah but udev is nice |
| 05:52.58 | jbevren | nod |
| 05:53.10 | jbevren | I dont know why udev would be a problem for bridging tho |
| 05:53.49 | dr-dotirc | it has to do with now bridging works.. i leard this from lfs |
| 05:53.53 | dr-dotirc | i'll find it |
| 05:54.12 | jbevren | dont use udev to set the bridge up? hehe |
| 05:54.32 | dr-dotirc | no, its how the nics are found.. |
| 05:56.59 | LyosNorezel | is 5896 ARP packet normal for a 6 minute period? |
| 05:57.05 | dr-dotirc | i think this is it... http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/symlinks.html |
| 05:57.29 | dr-dotirc | oopse |
| 05:57.39 | dr-dotirc | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/network.html |
| 05:57.42 | jbevren | LyosNorezel2: depends, whats your netmask? |
| 05:58.00 | jbevren | LyosNorezel2: also, look for arps outside your netmask |
| 06:00.18 | LyosNorezel | jbevren: not sure... this is all coming from outside my cable modem |
| 06:01.05 | dr-dotirc | LyosNorezel2: what do you mean by: is 5896 ARP packet normal for a 6 minute period? |
| 06:01.45 | LyosNorezel | dr-dotirc: I'm receiving 5896 ARP packets in a 6 minute period of time |
| 06:02.43 | dr-dotirc | i dont think you should be getiing arp packages on your cablem modem.. |
| 06:03.25 | dr-dotirc | and yes, thats alot of ap packets |
| 06:03.33 | LyosNorezel | ARP == Address Resolution Protocol |
| 06:03.41 | dr-dotirc | i know |
| 06:03.52 | dr-dotirc | it is a layer2 functions |
| 06:04.30 | dr-dotirc | arp is mainly used by switches |
| 06:04.30 | LyosNorezel | yeah |
| 06:04.46 | LyosNorezel | I figured as much |
| 06:05.00 | MonMotha | most cable modems run as giant ATM networks using the ethernet protocolo |
| 06:05.18 | MonMotha | I've seen upwards of 10000 ARP requests on my cable public side in 5 minutes |
| 06:05.21 | MonMotha | it's not unheard of at all |
| 06:05.32 | jbevren | oh on cable? |
| 06:05.35 | jbevren | yeah have fun :) |
| 06:05.40 | jbevren | MonMotha: that was probably an arpstorm |
| 06:05.41 | LyosNorezel | MonMotha: holly holy |
| 06:05.56 | MonMotha | jbevren: it was right after the CMTS came up following a power failure :) |
| 06:06.11 | jbevren | nod, it was scanning to see who's online |
| 06:06.39 | MonMotha | well, also most of the clients in the area would have gone down as well, causing them to lose their ARP caches |
| 06:06.50 | LyosNorezel | I'm really beginning to think I should hack their system/routers... to see if there is a way I can stem the flow |
| 06:06.57 | dr-dotirc | my cable isp uses smtp to see if a modem is up |
| 06:07.35 | MonMotha | dr-dotirc: they email the modem? |
| 06:08.15 | LyosNorezel | ROFLMFAO |
| 06:08.19 | dr-dotirc | no, simple network mangement transport |
| 06:08.21 | dr-dotirc | my bad |
| 06:08.25 | dr-dotirc | snmp |
| 06:08.28 | dr-dotirc | err |
| 06:08.35 | dr-dotirc | protocol |
| 06:08.48 | dr-dotirc | damn acronyms |
| 06:09.29 | LyosNorezel | Source: Riverdel_ca:5e:10 (00:30:b8:ca:5e:10) |
| 06:09.35 | LyosNorezel | interesting name |
| 06:13.01 | LyosNorezel | ah well... I'll deal with this in the morning |
| 06:13.08 | LyosNorezel | I really must sleep |
| 06:17.12 | LyosNorezel | night all |
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| 13:59.19 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:33.59 | isenbeck | mornin all |
| 15:38.42 | prpplague | isenbeck: hey crack baby |
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| 15:43.10 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin prpplague isenbeck |
| 15:43.54 | sjhill | hey chouimat |
| 15:44.11 | CosmicPenguin | hi |
| 15:44.15 | chouimat | hi sjhill |
| 15:45.36 | isenbeck | chouimat, get a little project going |
| 15:46.07 | chouimat | isenbeck: I have one going ... it's called fix myself ;) |
| 15:46.24 | prpplague | greetings all |
| 15:51.54 | isenbeck | chouimat, how's the weather ? |
| 15:53.22 | isenbeck | chouimat, are you "broke" ? |
| 15:55.15 | prpplague | isenbeck: chouimat is broken in so many ways that they only thing that is comparable is most microsoft products |
| 15:59.11 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 15:59.21 | chouimat | isenbeck: about -12C |
| 15:59.48 | isenbeck | chouimat, holy cats |
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| 16:00.38 | chouimat | isenbeck: was -17C this weekend ... which is not bad exept when you have 80km winds |
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| 16:23.28 | isenbeck | chouimat, gail force winds make projectiles out of anything not nailed down |
| 16:40.56 | prpplague | sjhill: you ever get your ramdisk issue figured out? |
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| 16:49.57 | sjhill | prpplague: nah, haven't had time to work on it |
| 16:54.03 | prpplague | sjhill: ahh ok |
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| 17:56.34 | Crofton__ | http://pastebin.ca/324756 |
| 17:56.54 | Crofton__ | anyone understand the ---- sections sized 24K and 32K? |
| 18:07.34 | wmat | .cl |
| 18:07.37 | wmat | meh |
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| 18:50.03 | davidc___ | -17 is nice and warm! |
| 18:50.16 | davidc___ | eh, that was 3 hours ago, nm |
| 20:13.44 | jbevren | heh. heatwave here, 21f out |
| 20:13.59 | LyosNorezel2 | brrr |
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