| 00:00.00 | CosmicPenguin | pepper went fast |
| 00:00.21 | MonMotha | I doubt they had many |
| 00:17.43 | sunrunner20 | sencwe when is this chan logged >_> |
| 00:20.17 | MonMotha | since forever |
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| 04:44.43 | MonMotha | does anybody know how those touchscreens that don't require a special stylus and have a hard (not directly pressure sensitive like was used on the ipaqs) work? |
| 04:44.56 | MonMotha | they use them on the new Diebold ATMs |
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| 13:36.49 | T0mW | good morning |
| 13:37.24 | T0mW | I have been having nothing but grief from the AMD64 X2 system lately. :( |
| 13:37.59 | T0mW | nothing wrong with the chip, just freakin' operating system problems up the whazoo |
| 13:41.32 | sjhill | T0mW: how cold is it in PA right now? |
| 13:42.00 | T0mW | sjhill: not bad this morning, about 28F |
| 13:42.43 | sjhill | wow |
| 13:42.56 | sjhill | it's -3F with windchills at -15F |
| 13:43.42 | T0mW | heh, 30F down in Allentown this morning |
| 13:44.01 | sjhill | heat wave |
| 13:51.14 | T0mW | is anyone else running an AMD64 X2 system? |
| 13:52.36 | T0mW | man, now I really feel like I'm out there in the wilderness! |
| 13:52.56 | sjhill | i have an AMD64 dual Opteron system |
| 13:53.10 | sjhill | 2 chips, not a single chip like yours unfortunately |
| 13:53.46 | T0mW | sjhill: what are you running as an operating system on it? |
| 13:54.43 | T0mW | I'm running into problems with libc6 with memory free()s dumping out faults |
| 13:55.34 | T0mW | sjhill: it seems the more I update the system files, the more problems occur |
| 13:56.11 | T0mW | sort of like bit-rot but inverse |
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| 14:12.33 | T0mW | sjhill: what distro you running on the opteron system? |
| 14:19.14 | cbrake | T0mW: I'm running gentoo on AMD64 x2 -- very happy, no real problems. |
| 14:19.31 | T0mW | cbrake: what distro? |
| 14:19.36 | cbrake | T0mW: Gentoo |
| 14:20.17 | T0mW | cbrake: thank you, I've been running Mandriva 2007 on this one and it has been not a good experience. |
| 14:20.21 | cbrake | T0mW: you may want to run memtest overnight on it. Some of the live cd's (like gentoo) have memtest on them. |
| 14:20.37 | cbrake | T0mW: I've heard of people having memory problem with amd64 x2 systems. |
| 14:20.47 | T0mW | cbrake: yup |
| 14:21.27 | sjhill | T0mW: debian |
| 14:21.32 | T0mW | cbrake: I've got all quality stuff in this box too! Asus mo'board, 4Gig Micron DDR2, etc. etc. |
| 14:21.44 | sjhill | T0mW: i have seen some of the those mem free issues, but it has been a while....running sid/unstable |
| 14:22.21 | T0mW | sjhill: It seems that the last update to libc just caused nothing but memory probs |
| 14:22.56 | sjhill | hmm |
| 14:23.06 | T0mW | it is when it goes to free an allocated page of memory that libc complains that the page is not in use |
| 14:24.10 | T0mW | I really really want to get a 64bit o/s running on it. The 32bit mode is 30% slower! |
| 14:25.48 | T0mW | cbrake: well, I will start with memtest. Is gentoo an RPM based distro? I never could figure out the apt-get stuff of debian |
| 14:29.27 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: I don' recommend Gentoo for you |
| 14:29.40 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: why is that? |
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| 14:30.47 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: it is a source based distro- much like OE |
| 14:31.29 | CosmicPenguin | The maintenance level is much higher then it is for a binary distro |
| 14:31.38 | T0mW | oh |
| 14:32.58 | cbrake | T0mW: right, it is a source based disto, but it works pretty good for long term machines as it continuously upgrades itself. So for servers and other long term machines, I prefer it as I don't have to mess around with distro upgrades (I came from fedora). |
| 14:33.05 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: only -3? |
| 14:33.32 | cbrake | T0mW: I also run ubuntu on several machines. I like both, and in different situations I use what is best for my needs. |
| 14:33.42 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: bah |
| 14:34.32 | CosmicPenguin | -21 when I got up thing morning |
| 14:35.14 | CosmicPenguin | s/thing/this/ |
| 14:35.33 | CosmicPenguin | I spose I should go to work or something |
| 14:35.40 | CosmicPenguin | bleh |
| 14:37.37 | T0mW | prpplague: you haven't moved yet?! |
| 14:41.06 | prpplague | T0mW: i'm in dallas, but out of the blue yesterday i got a call from the consulate saying that my wife's visa was null and void because of a law change and basically we have to start over |
| 14:41.24 | T0mW | oh no! |
| 14:41.36 | prpplague | yea well those aren't the words i used |
| 14:41.49 | T0mW | me neither |
| 14:42.08 | agaffney | heh |
| 14:44.10 | prpplague | T0mW: http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegrams/telegrams_3120.html |
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| 14:46.50 | prpplague^2 | crap |
| 14:46.52 | prpplague^2 | stupid firewall issues this morning |
| 14:46.54 | prpplague^2 | <prpplague> T0mW: http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegrams/telegrams_3120.html |
| 14:46.56 | prpplague^2 | <prpplague> its totally insane |
| 14:46.58 | prpplague^2 | <prpplague> here everyone is talking about doing "this" or "that" for illegals and yet they treat people who are trying to do things legally like they are |
| 14:48.49 | T0mW | IOW, they require USCIS to do background checks on individuals, but then make it impossible for them to get the information needed |
| 14:49.51 | prpplague | yep |
| 14:50.14 | prpplague | so everything that has been approved from july 2006 is invalidated |
| 14:50.21 | sjhill | $@#%R#@$@# |
| 14:50.25 | sjhill | sorry to hear that |
| 14:50.49 | agaffney | I hate this country |
| 14:51.01 | prpplague | sjhill: thanks, its totally insane, i just don't understand why we are being treated like this |
| 14:52.18 | sjhill | agaffney: i don't hate my country, but i certainly hate how they handle some things |
| 14:53.10 | agaffney | that's closer to what I meant :) |
| 14:56.48 | prpplague | 1) i have no criminal history, 2) my wife has no criminal history 3) i have a job and my won't be a ward of the state, 4) i have health insurance so no burden to the state 5) we've been married for over two years 6) both our kids are US citizens 7) we've paid our taxes every year |
| 14:57.17 | prpplague | why the F are we given a hard time when the freakin mexicans come across and live free on my tax dollars? |
| 14:57.33 | sunrunner20 | ok |
| 14:57.40 | sunrunner20 | toshiba is pissing me off |
| 14:58.02 | sunrunner20 | prpplague: yea, gotta love burocracy |
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| 15:02.10 | agaffney | prpplague: so just come over illegally :P |
| 15:02.46 | sunrunner20 | i'm sure prpplague himself can come and go freely |
| 15:02.52 | sunrunner20 | its just his wife thats the issue :( |
| 15:03.28 | prpplague | agaffney: yea, its a sad day when thats even a consideration |
| 15:03.41 | prpplague | agaffney: i'm a USC |
| 15:03.46 | prpplague | agaffney: my kids are USC |
| 15:03.50 | prpplague | agaffney: just not my wife |
| 15:05.28 | T0mW | sigh, women always give their husbands grief in some way |
| 15:05.49 | T0mW | prpplague: yours is just a step-above the run of the mill wife |
| 15:06.08 | LyosNorezel2 | T0mW: that's one fucked up trueism |
| 15:06.25 | T0mW | agreed |
| 15:07.05 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, well its not really the wife thats giving the gried |
| 15:07.07 | prpplague | grief |
| 15:07.12 | prpplague | T0mW: its the day government |
| 15:07.45 | LyosNorezel2 | 'day government'? |
| 15:07.53 | prpplague | damm |
| 15:07.59 | prpplague | sorry talking on the phone |
| 15:09.06 | agaffney | heh |
| 15:09.33 | prpplague | very very frustrating |
| 15:09.42 | prpplague | i can get a straight answer from anyone |
| 15:10.35 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
| 15:12.32 | LyosNorezel2 | methinks prpplague has forgotten english 101 ;-) |
| 15:13.27 | agaffney | of course, most illegal immigrants can't speak the language ;) |
| 15:13.27 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: just stressed |
| 15:13.38 | LyosNorezel2 | ROFLMFAO |
| 15:14.49 | prpplague | yea well, we'd have alot less illegals if the procedure for doing it legally was not so f'd up |
| 15:15.19 | LyosNorezel2 | prpplague: I would suggest ne'er leaving america again... unless, of course, you intend on giving up your USC ;-) |
| 15:15.48 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: why's that? |
| 15:16.03 | LyosNorezel2 | so you can avoid having to deal with the bullshit |
| 15:16.13 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: has nothing to do with me |
| 15:16.20 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: has to do with my wife |
| 15:16.41 | LyosNorezel2 | yep... all the more reason |
| 15:17.05 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: but its not really about traveling its about getting the initial greencard |
| 15:17.15 | LyosNorezel2 | ah |
| 15:18.39 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: most people think if you get married to a USC its all a snap |
| 15:18.48 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: let me tell ya, it ain't that way |
| 15:19.06 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
| 15:19.16 | prpplague | average waiting for a ir-1/cr-1 visa is 24 months |
| 15:19.31 | LyosNorezel2 | fun |
| 15:19.43 | prpplague | loads |
| 15:20.21 | LyosNorezel2 | when I can afford to buy an island... I'll be giving up my USC |
| 15:21.44 | LyosNorezel2 | and, of course, declaring the island a sovereign territory ;-) |
| 15:21.48 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: yea well, thats not as easy as it sounds either |
| 15:23.31 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
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| 16:10.16 | CosmicPenguin | Is it me, or have google servers been a bit unreliable lately? |
| 16:13.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not just you |
| 16:13.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings btw |
| 16:13.30 | CosmicPenguin | damn cold today |
| 16:18.16 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
| 16:34.56 | prpplague | lordy lordy lordy |
| 16:48.36 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 16:48.41 | sunrunner20 | dfw is COLD today :O |
| 17:11.27 | prpplague | sunrunner20: that it is |
| 17:11.33 | prpplague | sunrunner20: you get any snow? |
| 17:11.49 | prpplague | sunrunner20: car was covered this morning, but none on the ground |
| 17:13.59 | sunrunner20 | we have snow on the ground at my house |
| 17:14.29 | prpplague | lovely |
| 17:14.37 | prpplague | sunrunner20: which part of dfw? |
| 17:14.44 | sunrunner20 | carrollton |
| 17:14.49 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:00.19 | sunrunner20 | aww |
| 19:00.23 | sunrunner20 | snow go by by |
| 19:02.12 | sunrunner20 | >_> |
| 19:02.24 | sunrunner20 | i know my passwords too well |
| 19:02.41 | sunrunner20 | i just rembered an 8char jibberish pass that I haven't used in ~2-3 weeks |
| 19:03.14 | agaffney | heh |
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| 20:08.06 | CosmicPenguin | dammit |
| 20:08.11 | prpplague | that too |
| 20:09.34 | CosmicPenguin | fakeroot is faililng me |
| 20:12.25 | CosmicPenguin | I think ldconfig is using mktemp() or one of its family, and the fakeroot isn't catching it |
| 20:15.23 | prpplague | doh |
| 20:16.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i'm just happy the fact that since i've been doing mostly kernel dev i don't have to worry about such things |
| 20:16.24 | CosmicPenguin | heh - comes and goes - you know that |
| 20:16.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 20:16.39 | CosmicPenguin | to do kernel development, sometimes we must have be forced to make a build script |
| 20:16.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: very much like my sanity |
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| 20:38.57 | LyosNorezel2 | prpplague: what sanity? |
| 20:44.12 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: my point exactly |
| 20:44.58 | chouimat | hi |
| 20:45.01 | LyosNorezel2 | hehe\ |
| 20:46.30 | prpplague | chouimat: greeetings |
| 20:46.50 | prpplague | chouimat: hows our favorite psuedo frenchy |
| 20:47.00 | LyosNorezel2 | prpplague: not one person here can lay claim to being sane ;-) |
| 20:47.06 | chouimat | prpplague: 6 to 8 weeks of wheelchair :) |
| 20:47.52 | prpplague | chouimat: uh what? |
| 20:48.04 | prpplague | chouimat: what the hell happened to you? |
| 20:48.50 | chouimat | prpplague: broke a leg and twisted the knee of the other one last night ... was icy outside |
| 20:49.15 | LyosNorezel2 | ouch |
| 20:49.52 | chouimat | LyosNorezel2 and I went to hospital only this morning ... just image how much sleep I had last night |
| 20:50.55 | LyosNorezel2 | chouimat: heh... probably none |
| 20:51.26 | prpplague | chouimat: holy cow |
| 20:51.32 | prpplague | chouimat: sorry to hear that d00d |
| 20:52.03 | chouimat | prpplague: it's ok ... they gave me good stuff so I don't feel anything |
| 20:52.45 | prpplague | chouimat: still thats a bummer |
| 20:59.13 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 20:59.38 | CosmicPenguin | wheelchair though - that rought |
| 20:59.43 | CosmicPenguin | almost as bad as Marcelo |
| 21:01.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think chouimat was out drinking and gambling, and some loan shark broke his legs |
| 21:01.45 | CosmicPenguin | we all think that - but you don't say it.. :) |
| 21:02.01 | prpplague | sshhhhhh |
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| 21:21.25 | prpplague | gosh darn its cold outside |
| 21:21.58 | agaffney | indeed |
| 21:55.51 | sunrunner20 | is interest calculated off of amount remaining in the account? |
| 21:59.00 | prpplague | sunrunner20: not sure what you are refering to, but generally speaking interest is generally calculated on whats in an account, or owed on an account |
| 22:00.08 | sunrunner20 | k |
| 22:00.47 | sunrunner20 | I have to buy my laptop off a mini loan unless somebody here feels like contributing a few hundred dollars |
| 22:00.55 | sunrunner20 | (i'm like 1.2k short) |
| 22:02.53 | sunrunner20 | DAMNIT |
| 22:03.02 | sunrunner20 | can't do that |
| 22:03.06 | sunrunner20 | FUCK YOU PARRENTS |
| 22:04.12 | prpplague | sunrunner20: cool it with the language |
| 22:04.33 | sunrunner20 | sorry, but they have screwed me over for the 5th or 6th time in my life |
| 22:15.23 | Crofton__ | sunrunner20, how old are you? |
| 22:30.31 | sunrunner20 | 18 |
| 22:30.57 | sunrunner20 | nobdoy will issue me credit #*@%& |
| 22:31.27 | Crofton__ | um |
| 22:31.43 | Crofton__ | credit comes with time |
| 22:32.03 | sunrunner20 | 'cept i need the money for the laptop _now_ |
| 22:32.19 | Crofton__ | what sort off loan are you trying to get? |
| 22:32.28 | Crofton__ | what is the interest rate? |
| 22:32.31 | sunrunner20 | i need $1500 |
| 22:32.34 | Crofton__ | yes |
| 22:32.49 | sunrunner20 | i tried to get one that was nearly 20% apr |
| 22:32.58 | Crofton__ | that is dumb |
| 22:33.10 | sunrunner20 | i'll have it paied in like 2months |
| 22:33.12 | Crofton__ | unless you can pay it off in a month |
| 22:33.24 | Crofton__ | so wait 2 months and buy laptop |
| 22:33.32 | sunrunner20 | it won't EXIST then |
| 22:33.34 | sunrunner20 | thats the issue |
| 22:33.40 | sunrunner20 | my laptop will be gone |
| 22:33.42 | sunrunner20 | my number one choice is gone |
| 22:33.47 | sunrunner20 | my number two is about to be gone |
| 22:33.48 | Crofton__ | dude |
| 22:33.58 | Crofton__ | your life is just beginning |
| 22:34.08 | sunrunner20 | you don't understand |
| 22:34.13 | Crofton__ | in two months a better laptop will be avilable for half the price |
| 22:34.17 | sunrunner20 | i _can not_ operate w/o a laptop |
| 22:34.30 | sunrunner20 | and my current one won't last that much longer |
| 22:34.38 | Crofton__ | why not? |
| 22:34.42 | sunrunner20 | its 5 years old |
| 22:34.57 | sunrunner20 | does that say enough or do i have to go into details |
| 22:35.11 | Crofton__ | you aren't getting any sympathy here |
| 22:35.21 | Crofton__ | you have a five year old laptop |
| 22:35.29 | Crofton__ | it isn't quite broke |
| 22:35.33 | sunrunner20 | I guess i have to get into details |
| 22:35.34 | Crofton__ | so you start saving |
| 22:35.40 | Crofton__ | or get a cheaper laptop |
| 22:36.06 | sunrunner20 | this is as cheap as it will get w/o being a POS |
| 22:36.39 | Crofton__ | well, if you cannot live without one, you may need to down grade |
| 22:36.49 | Crofton__ | what do you need the laptop for? |
| 22:37.07 | sunrunner20 | graphics development/web dev |
| 22:37.08 | sunrunner20 | high end |
| 22:37.17 | Crofton__ | do you get paid for this? |
| 22:37.20 | sunrunner20 | yes |
| 22:37.26 | Crofton__ | who pays you? |
| 22:37.30 | sunrunner20 | clients... |
| 22:37.49 | Crofton__ | you have documentation for this? |
| 22:38.13 | Crofton__ | contracts |
| 22:38.19 | Crofton__ | active contracts |
| 22:39.18 | Crofton__ | anyway, find a local bank |
| 22:39.23 | Crofton__ | go talk to the manager |
| 22:39.35 | Crofton__ | have documentation of your work such as contracts |
| 22:39.46 | Crofton__ | explain you need $x for y amount of time |
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