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| 14:54.34 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 14:55.19 | prpplague | jeeze was it something i said? |
| 14:55.46 | wmat | prpplague: it's your smell ;) |
| 14:56.19 | wmat | prpplague: I heard a stat on the radio the other day that 10% of the worlds firearms are in Texas |
| 14:56.36 | wmat | something like 61 Million guns |
| 14:57.35 | prpplague | thats probably a fair estimate, i own 17 myself and are planning to purchase 2 more by the end of the year |
| 14:59.04 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:59.10 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings |
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| 17:07.13 | CosmicPenguin | Wheres Tom lately? |
| 17:07.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: think he's been busy with his contract work |
| 17:51.41 | Crofton | any immigration updates? |
| 18:04.23 | prpplague | Crofton: yea, all our paperwork is headed to the texas service center where a IBIS criminal background check will be done on me |
| 18:04.37 | prpplague | Crofton: supposedly the paperwork will be there by the end of the week |
| 18:05.03 | prpplague | Crofton: question is how long will it take to get done since there are about 40000 people in the same situation as i am |
| 18:05.17 | prpplague | Crofton: i have my senators office involved heavily |
| 18:05.46 | prpplague | Crofton: best guess is 2 to 3 weeks |
| 18:06.07 | LyosNorezel2 | yikes... sounds painful |
| 18:06.56 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: the whole process is painful, on feb 26 it will have been 2 years and 6 months since we filed our initial request |
| 18:07.06 | LyosNorezel2 | wow |
| 18:07.26 | prpplague | total cost so far is about $9,000 USD |
| 18:07.46 | prpplague | getting a green card aint like it is in the movies or tv |
| 18:09.59 | prpplague | i hate the fact that hollywood and all the news media propogate the myth that all you have to do is get married to get a green card |
| 18:10.18 | prpplague | its keeps people ignorant of the real issues with immigration |
| 18:12.12 | LyosNorezel2 | yeah |
| 18:13.57 | prpplague | whats funny is that the I-601 waivers are discretionary, and their acceptance often is very inconsistant, like lots of people with HIV or people who have a criminal background can get a waiver, but people who have overstayed their visa due to emergencies (like family death or sickness) often get denied |
| 18:15.05 | Crofton | That's because INS is run by diseased criminals! |
| 18:15.10 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
| 18:19.46 | prpplague | Crofton: INS is no more, its USCIS now |
| 18:20.03 | prpplague | Crofton: with the law enforment portion called ICE |
| 18:20.09 | chouimat | INS? USCIS? |
| 18:20.20 | prpplague | chouimat: immigration agencies |
| 18:21.34 | prpplague | chouimat: INS == Immigration and Naturalization Service , USCIS == United States Customs and Immigration Service |
| 18:22.07 | prpplague | ICE == Immigration and Customs Enforcement |
| 18:22.24 | chouimat | prpplague: I kind of guessed ... now the 64K$ question: what I'm eating for lunch |
| 18:22.49 | LyosNorezel2 | prpplague: when did the USC and INS merge? |
| 18:23.32 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: shortly after the creation of DoHS |
| 18:23.48 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
| 18:23.51 | LyosNorezel2 | figures |
| 18:24.49 | LyosNorezel2 | well... the US has too many 'deparments' 'agencies' etc |
| 18:25.19 | LyosNorezel2 | the should be many more mergers... and removal of agencies |
| 18:25.37 | prpplague | LyosNorezel2: well as far as the immigration goes, its all being consolodated, problem is that the people who are in the process of getting a visa are getting screwed about every 6 months because of regulation changes |
| 18:26.04 | prpplague | and see the fees for all of the visa stuff are going to triple in the next year |
| 18:27.14 | prpplague | and they wonder why we have so many illegals, _legal_ process is extremely long, costs a ton of money (if they are broke mexicans how the heck are they suppose to afford to do it legally), and the so convoluted that it makes the tax code look like green eggs and ham |
| 18:27.32 | LyosNorezel2 | heh |
| 18:28.04 | LyosNorezel2 | typical american government |
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| 19:19.14 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:19.17 | Crofton | typical governemnt |
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| 22:53.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: interesting, accidental disclosure seems to null and void the trade secret status of the datasheet |
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| 22:57.20 | prpplague | Religious Tech. Center v. Netcom On-Line Communications Services, Inc., 907 F. Supp. 1361, 1368 (N.D. Cal. 1995). Although one who originally posts a trade secret on the Internet may be liable for trade secret misappropriation, a party who merely downloads Internet information cannot be liable for misappropriation because there is no misconduct involved in interacting with the Internet. Posted documents become \x{FFFD}generally known\x{FFFD} and a |
| 22:57.21 | prpplague | re therefore no longer secret. |
| 22:58.34 | prpplague | in this case it was posted by a marvell employee |
| 22:59.07 | CosmicPenguin | Doesn't mean they won't fight it |
| 23:00.37 | prpplague | true |
| 23:01.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the question is, if they were really concerned about it, why haven't that asked that that archive be taken down |
| 23:01.53 | CosmicPenguin | There's a good chance they don't know bout it |
| 23:02.16 | CosmicPenguin | Marvell is a decent company, but they don't know much about open source |
| 23:02.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: marcelo seems to indicate they did by saying "it was a mistake on marvell's part" |
| 23:02.50 | CosmicPenguin | But its possible they don't know about the archive, or can figure out how to get it removed from the archive |
| 23:02.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, don't mind me, i'm just venting about all this silliness |
| 23:03.04 | CosmicPenguin | its stupid - but its standard operating procedure |
| 23:03.54 | prpplague | maybe with this wireless stuff, but i'm used to getting reasonablly accurate datasheets and documentation |
| 23:08.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that document has been available for almost 6 months |
| 23:08.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: more than 6 months |