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| 06:20.56 | jbevren | this baffles me |
| 06:20.56 | jbevren | warnings about being unable to open initial console |
| 06:20.57 | agaffney | missing /dev/console |
| 06:20.57 | agaffney | :P |
| 06:20.57 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.57 | jbevren | :-/ |
| 06:20.58 | agaffney | it's 5,1 on my local system |
| 06:20.58 | jbevren | I'm attempting to install debian to this thing, but the floppy driver is borked so I cant load a root floppy |
| 06:20.58 | jbevren | 5,1 eh? |
| 06:20.59 | agaffney | perhaps the minor matters |
| 06:20.59 | jbevren | possible |
| 06:20.59 | jbevren | but its a driect copy of the debian initrd |
| 06:20.59 | jbevren | lessee if that fixes it |
| 06:21.00 | agaffney | VCs? |
| 06:21.00 | jbevren | none |
| 06:21.00 | jbevren | d-i doesnt use em |
| 06:21.00 | jbevren | well, not on m68k |
| 06:21.01 | agaffney | it's 5,1 on all my gentoo boxes (udev) and my openwrt devices (whiterussian and kamikaze) |
| 06:21.01 | jbevren | hm that clears the error |
| 06:21.02 | jbevren | now I need to tell it t mount rw lol |
| 06:21.02 | jbevren | kernel assumes ro now? |
| 06:21.02 | agaffney | try just passing 'rw' on the kernel commandline |
| 06:21.02 | jbevren | yeah |
| 06:21.02 | jbevren | that I knew |
| 06:21.03 | jbevren | thx tho :) |
| 06:21.03 | agaffney | :P |
| 06:21.04 | agaffney | I have no idea when the default behavior changed |
| 06:21.04 | jbevren | I discovered that there's an early linux loader for macs now |
| 06:21.04 | jbevren | so I want to play :) |
| 06:21.21 | agaffney | I seem to recall having to pass 'ro' with slack 7.x |
| 06:21.21 | agaffney | jbevren: ppc or mactel? |
| 06:21.21 | jbevren | Ive wanted to run linux on a mac without the need for macos hehe |
| 06:21.22 | jbevren | neither |
| 06:21.22 | jbevren | 68040 |
| 06:21.22 | jbevren | quadra 700 |
| 06:21.22 | agaffney | ah, m68k :P |
| 06:21.23 | jbevren | a blazin' 25mnz |
| 06:21.23 | jbevren | mHz |
| 06:21.23 | agaffney | heh |
| 06:21.23 | agaffney | oldest mac I've ever had was a powermac 6100 |
| 06:21.23 | agaffney | nubus baby! |
| 06:21.24 | jbevren | I have one of thse |
| 06:21.24 | jbevren | slow :) |
| 06:21.24 | jbevren | feels slower than my 40mhz IIci |
| 06:21.25 | agaffney | I trashed it for a 7300 :P |
| 06:21.25 | agaffney | the 7300 was impressive |
| 06:21.25 | jbevren | nod, I hear they were |
| 06:21.25 | agaffney | 66MHz and it could play a 128kbps MP3 and compile at the same time |
| 06:21.26 | jbevren | nice |
| 06:21.26 | jbevren | have you heard of the radius rocket cards? |
| 06:21.26 | agaffney | nope |
| 06:21.26 | jbevren | it's an entire mac (minus IO) on a nubus card |
| 06:21.28 | jbevren | it runs an independent copy of macos concurrently with the host |
| 06:21.28 | agaffney | now my dual G4 450MHz w/ 1GB RAM can kick its little ass :P |
| 06:21.28 | jbevren | if you have an older mac (6 nubus slots f/e) you can run 6 rocketes |
| 06:21.28 | agaffney | o_O |
| 06:21.28 | jbevren | that gives you 7 computers in one shell |
| 06:21.29 | agaffney | what is the point of that? |
| 06:21.29 | jbevren | it's used for two things mainly |
| 06:21.29 | jbevren | one is for distributed rendering |
| 06:21.29 | jbevren | another is for simple acceleration |
| 06:21.29 | jbevren | mine run at 33mhz but work in 16mhz macs |
| 06:21.29 | jbevren | 16mhz 68020 -> 33mhz 040 is a big jump |
| 06:21.29 | jbevren | also, they can host 128M ram, which tops this quadra's max of 68M |
| 06:21.30 | agaffney | heh |
| 06:21.30 | jbevren | if only I knew more ;) |
| 06:21.30 | jbevren | Id love to see one run linux concurrently with a linux host :) |
| 06:21.30 | agaffney | I remember my 7300 having 8 RAM slots |
| 06:21.30 | agaffney | and thinking how crazy that was |
| 06:21.30 | jbevren | nod, my IIci has 8 |
| 06:21.31 | jbevren | it has 128M ram in 16meg 30pin simms |
| 06:21.31 | agaffney | but now I've got my Octane with 16 slots :P |
| 06:21.31 | jbevren | hehe |
| 06:21.31 | agaffney | I think my sun netra t1125 has 16 slots as well |
| 06:21.31 | jbevren | my IBM has 12 |
| 06:21.32 | jbevren | hotplug even |
| 06:21.32 | jbevren | Ive figured out how to power the slot down, but not hw to bring it back up yet :) |
| 06:21.32 | jbevren | if you open the retainer on a slot, linux goes to runlevel 0 |
| 06:21.32 | jbevren | lol |
| 06:21.32 | agaffney | heh |
| 06:21.32 | jbevren | even if the slot's off |
| 06:21.33 | agaffney | not very useful :P |
| 06:21.33 | jbevren | nod |
| 06:21.33 | jbevren | IBM had little information on it a couple months ago |
| 06:21.33 | jbevren | and now they deny the system's existance |
| 06:21.34 | jbevren | that saddens me, cause IBM used to be -very- good about documenting old systems |
| 06:21.34 | jbevren | if only debian/sarge had a basedebs.tar file :( |
| 06:21.34 | jbevren | think g2 has a m68k target? lol |
| 06:21.34 | jbevren | it'd only take 3 weeks to install |
| 06:21.34 | agaffney | heh |
| 06:21.35 | jbevren | theyre ok for normal use, but compiling wouldnt work so well |
| 06:21.35 | agaffney | if by g2, you mean gentoo, yes, there is a m68k port |
| 06:21.35 | agaffney | sadly :P |
| 06:21.35 | jbevren | heh |
| 06:21.35 | jbevren | the 68060's are pretty impressive at 50mhz |
| 06:21.35 | jbevren | I once saw an amiga with one installed pushing its limits |
| 06:21.36 | jbevren | not near as cool as an amiga 1200 with an internal G3 card |
| 06:21.36 | jbevren | (remember, thse are the ones with the computer in the kbd) |
| 06:21.36 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.36 | jbevren | but I'd rather manage to hack a rocket |
| 06:21.37 | agaffney | hah |
| 06:21.37 | jbevren | http://lowendmac.com/radius/rocket.shtml |
| 06:21.37 | jbevren | you can use em in a pmac 7100. That's great cause the 7100's ppc can't run 680x0 apps fast at all ;) |
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| 06:22.03 | jbevren | hm cant load a compressed ramdisk from a harddisk partition? |
| 06:22.04 | jbevren | agaffney: cant find the 68k target for g2 :X |
| 06:22.05 | agaffney | maybe vapier never actually created stages |
| 06:22.05 | agaffney | just the profiles and was cross-compiling from another box |
| 06:22.05 | jbevren | nod |
| 06:22.05 | jbevren | I found a page about the amiga they shoved in a 19" rack case for the project |
| 06:22.05 | jbevren | and the package repo |
| 06:22.06 | jbevren | but no install stages yet :) |
| 06:22.06 | agaffney | doesn't netbsd have a m68k port? :P |
| 06:22.06 | agaffney | heh, I love vapier |
| 06:22.06 | agaffney | http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/getenv-howto.png |
| 06:22.06 | agaffney | there's also the infamous http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/icecream.png |
| 06:22.07 | jbevren | heh |
| 06:22.07 | jbevren | I think I've chatted with him once while putting an early version of linux 2.6 for IP27 on my o200 |
| 06:22.08 | jbevren | that or while working out a matrox pci card in my HP |
| 06:22.45 | agaffney | vapier is an...interesting fellow :P |
| 06:23.07 | agaffney | knowledgeable about a little bit of everything |
| 06:23.07 | jbevren | ah |
| 06:23.07 | agaffney | with a "quirky" personality :P |
| 06:23.07 | jbevren | I'm a little knowledgeable abut a few things heh |
| 06:23.26 | jbevren | not as much as most here |
| 06:23.27 | agaffney | he's one of gentoo's best devs |
| 06:23.43 | jbevren | well since the channel's grown, that might be different :) |
| 06:23.43 | agaffney | you certainly know more than I do :P |
| 06:24.34 | jbevren | so that backdoor method wont work |
| 06:24.34 | jbevren | the build chain for emile is borken |
| 06:24.34 | agaffney | I have a lot of general linux knowledge, but once you get into embedded territory, I'm a n00b |
| 06:24.34 | jbevren | I wonder if the author made a nfsroot-capable bootdisk |
| 06:24.53 | jbevren | ah |
| 06:24.53 | jbevren | I'm good at squeezing |
| 06:25.08 | jbevren | but Ive never really worked with an embedded system, per-se |
| 06:25.08 | jbevren | although this mac might count given its computational capacity |
| 06:25.09 | agaffney | heh |
| 06:25.44 | jbevren | I just wish its SCSI chip could DMA :( |
| 06:25.44 | agaffney | 'night |
| 06:25.45 | jbevren | night :) |
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| 08:03.40 | jbevren | grr I finally get d-i to attempt to boot and I forgot ramdisk_size :) |
| 08:03.40 | jbevren | fwiw, you can run penguin over appletalk (netatalk file server) |
| 08:03.41 | jbevren | meh. |
| 08:03.41 | jbevren | it succesfully mounts an ext2 filesystem then tells me it cant mount the rot fs |
| 08:03.42 | jbevren | :) |
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| 09:27.30 | The_Raven | I'm having problem compiling uClibc with buildroot |
| 09:27.46 | The_Raven | I get a: sysdep-cancel.h: No such file or directory |
| 09:28.12 | The_Raven | while compiling uClibc for ARM7TDMI with NPTL support... |
| 09:28.34 | The_Raven | even if I use the old linuxthread I get the same error... |
| 09:28.48 | The_Raven | that file doesn't exist for ARM |
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