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| 09:09.24 | wlp405 | hi to all |
| 09:09.25 | wlp405 | :) |
| 09:28.13 | wlp405 | is there an embedded arm9 (with mmu) board to be used with success ? |
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| 10:36.05 | wlp405 | or is somebody working with the ibm walnut-ppc405 ? |
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| 12:34.55 | wlp405 | is somebody working with the ibm walnut-ppc405 ? |
| 12:50.16 | agaffney | wlt405: if that's the same as the DHT walnut, yes :P |
| 12:50.54 | wlt405 | yes it is |
| 12:51.10 | agaffney | yes, many people in here have them |
| 12:51.12 | agaffney | I've got 2 |
| 12:51.17 | agaffney | but I haven't touched them in months |
| 12:51.20 | wlt405 | good |
| 12:51.43 | wlt405 | i've installed gentoo-ppc |
| 12:51.52 | wlt405 | with kernel 2.6.15-4 |
| 12:52.21 | agaffney | I use a gentoo uclibc nfsroot |
| 12:52.40 | agaffney | with a custom 2.6.18 kernel |
| 12:54.37 | wlt405 | :) |
| 12:54.45 | wlt405 | do you mean patches ? |
| 12:57.23 | agaffney | no, my own config |
| 12:57.29 | agaffney | based on the one on the wiki |
| 13:05.09 | wlt405 | ok |
| 13:05.31 | wlt405 | i donwloaded the sources of 2.6.16 and is not compiling |
| 13:05.46 | wlt405 | this is the reason why i asked about pathes |
| 13:06.06 | wlt405 | i will try .18 |
| 13:06.18 | wlt405 | .20 is not compiling |
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| 13:27.55 | wlt405 | have you seen this http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/Manual?stickboard=walnut ? |
| 13:53.29 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:55.58 | wlt405 | :) hi |
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| 14:08.54 | wlt405 | excuseme, i've downloaded 2.6.18 and configured for walnut-ppc405 |
| 14:09.07 | wlt405 | i invoked the make and it says there are files missing |
| 14:09.24 | wlt405 | how did you/somebodyelse compiled it ? |
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| 14:51.08 | GPSFan | wlt405: the elinux wiki talks about 2.6.15: http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut2.6LinuxKernel I have gotten 2.6.16 to work, for 2.6.18 you are on your own.. patches/configs/how-to's welcomed.. |
| 14:52.15 | wlt405 | how did you make .16 to work ? |
| 14:52.52 | wlt405 | i can share everything i'm doing |
| 14:53.00 | wlt405 | i post progress on the gentoo forum |
| 14:53.15 | GPSFan | IIRC, I applied the config from 2.6.15, and rebuilt it. It's been over a year, I'll bring up my dev machine later ant poke around and see if there were any patches neccessary. |
| 14:54.02 | wlt405 | .16 doesn't compile using .15 config |
| 14:54.11 | wlt405 | there are files missing |
| 14:54.16 | wlt405 | or misplaced |
| 14:54.32 | wlt405 | i suppose you fixed this problem |
| 14:54.50 | GPSFan | I won't see it on the gentoo forum, if you have any success, update the wiki. what files does it say are missing? and have you successfully built 2.6.15? |
| 14:55.14 | wlt405 | .15.4 is perfectly running |
| 14:55.18 | wlt405 | dma is bugged |
| 14:55.29 | wlt405 | but everythingelse is working |
| 14:55.43 | GPSFan | hold on a bit while by dev box boots up.. |
| 14:56.26 | wlt405 | arch/ppc has been ported to arch/powerpc |
| 14:56.43 | wlt405 | i was said kernel newer than .15 has not been correctly ported |
| 14:58.31 | wlt405 | :) |
| 14:58.43 | wlt405 | could you share your .16 ? |
| 15:06.44 | GPSFan | I builr 2.6.16-rc3 on march 12 2006, using the config from the 2.6.15.4-walnut-df3 I had to turn on the ppc405 dma to get the hdd working correctly, but that's about it. just make oldconfig, then make menuconfig, then the usual magic to get ppcboot to accept the image. |
| 15:07.28 | GPSFan | gotta run off for a whil, be back later.. |
| 15:07.39 | GPSFan | s/whil/while |
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| 15:14.46 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 15:14.50 | prpplague | merry freakin friday |
| 15:15.05 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 15:17.00 | prpplague | chouimat: hey |
| 15:17.06 | prpplague | ton of work to do today |
| 15:20.36 | chouimat | prpplague: same here ... and I have to clean the dishes too |
| 15:20.47 | wlt405 | :| |
| 15:20.58 | wlt405 | i downloaded the 2.6.16-rc3 |
| 15:21.00 | wlt405 | i compiled |
| 15:21.11 | wlt405 | it says "error, files missing here, there" |
| 15:59.27 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 16:00.03 | sjhill | wlt405: you know, you might consider going over to #mklinux or #gentoo-ppc for help |
| 16:00.12 | sjhill | wlt405: since they're PPC and all |
| 16:03.02 | wlt405 | banned there |
| 16:03.09 | wlt405 | and no help form there |
| 16:03.41 | wlt405 | i'm here 'cause http://www.elinux.org/wiki/DHT-WalnutUsefullProjects points to this channel |
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| 16:07.42 | GPSFan | wlt405: well if you are having problems compiling, maybe we need to know what the errror messages say, and what your croww toolchain is. |
| 16:08.00 | GPSFan | s/croww/cross |
| 16:08.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: morning.. |
| 16:08.14 | wlt405 | they say files are missing |
| 16:08.22 | Crofton | pastebin the error |
| 16:08.24 | GPSFan | cut & paste please |
| 16:09.03 | wlt405 | arch/powerpc/include/asm/ibm4xx.h:47:34: platforms/4xx/walnut.h: No such file or directory |
| 16:09.15 | Crofton | er don't paste large amount in channel |
| 16:09.45 | wlt405 | i pasted only the first line error |
| 16:09.46 | prpplague | sjhill / GPSFan greetings earthlings |
| 16:10.41 | GPSFan | wlt405: one of the purposes of #edev and #elinux is to develop developers. so in the long run we can help you teach yourself. So is it really missing? |
| 16:10.53 | Crofton | wlt405, ,look into openembedded, there is a machine file for the dht-walnut |
| 16:15.26 | wlt405 | ok |
| 16:15.53 | GPSFan | prpplague: greetings exhaulted one. |
| 16:16.00 | sjhill | hye GPSFan |
| 16:16.05 | sjhill | hi AMDPenguin |
| 16:16.08 | GPSFan | sjhill: howdy.. |
| 16:16.21 | sjhill | wlt405: well, if #gentoo-ppc and #mklinux banned you, good enough for me |
| 16:16.28 | AMDPenguin | ahh!! |
| 16:16.28 | sjhill | GPSFan: ban wlt405 please |
| 16:16.34 | wlt405 | why ? |
| 16:16.46 | sjhill | because it's Friday and i'm in a good mood |
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| 16:16.55 | wlt405 | :( |
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| 16:17.14 | CosmicPenguin | You need a banning? |
| 16:17.23 | GPSFan | sjhill: I'm in a good mood too, went skiing on Wed. was fantastic.. |
| 16:17.37 | sjhill | GPSFan: that sounds fabulous |
| 16:17.39 | wlt405 | i need an un ban |
| 16:17.41 | wlt405 | eheheh |
| 16:17.48 | wlt405 | undo |
| 16:17.49 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan: 65 today on this side of the hill |
| 16:18.11 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin: it was 31 this am, bright & sunny sky's |
| 16:19.01 | Crofton | wlt405, there aren't any experts in your particular hw here |
| 16:19.14 | Crofton | we can give you suggestions, but you will need to do some thinking |
| 16:19.27 | wlt405 | :) |
| 16:19.28 | wlt405 | ok |
| 16:19.31 | Crofton | we can likely prevent you from wasting a lot of time on the wrong things |
| 16:19.43 | GPSFan | Crofton: that's not quite so, agaffney , jbreven dfarnsworth & I did the work on the dht walnut. |
| 16:19.44 | sjhill | or conversely, wasting our time |
| 16:19.51 | Crofton | heh |
| 16:19.54 | Crofton | well |
| 16:20.07 | Crofton | I was trying to make the case for thinking for yourself :) |
| 16:20.20 | agaffney | GPSFan: what did I do? :P |
| 16:20.29 | GPSFan | Crofton: that said, we have little patients for folks that can't help themselves. |
| 16:20.30 | agaffney | I think I just played while other people did the real work :) |
| 16:20.35 | GPSFan | agaffney: dht walnut |
| 16:20.44 | agaffney | s/patients/patience/ :) |
| 16:20.47 | Crofton | does oe build images for it? |
| 16:20.51 | Crofton | I saw a machine file |
| 16:21.06 | GPSFan | agaffney: If I could spell I'd still be in school. |
| 16:21.40 | Crofton | wlt405, I think you need to tell us what development environemnt you are using |
| 16:21.50 | agaffney | heh |
| 16:21.58 | GPSFan | Crofton: most of what I did was port a newer version of ppcboot and jbreven figured out how to use OCD Commander JTAG on it. |
| 16:22.05 | Crofton | heh |
| 16:22.14 | GPSFan | I used buildroot to build the cross toolchain. |
| 16:22.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: man o man that lefthand ipa was pretty rough |
| 16:22.20 | wlt405 | ok, the development box is a real ppc machine, a G4 one running gentoo |
| 16:22.25 | wlt405 | gcc is 3.4.6 |
| 16:22.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: which one was it - the single or the double? |
| 16:22.31 | wlt405 | binutils are 2.16.1 |
| 16:22.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was kinda disappointed, it wasn't as robust as their other brew |
| 16:22.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the twin sister |
| 16:23.12 | GPSFan | wlt405: here, cross development on ppc boxen isn't a practiced art. |
| 16:23.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah - that sucker packs a punch |
| 16:23.24 | wlt405 | native compile |
| 16:23.33 | CosmicPenguin | Gives new meaning to the word hoppy |
| 16:23.44 | Crofton | wlt405, I suspect most of us use intel desktops and crosscompile |
| 16:23.58 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin: tried Stone Ruination IPA? |
| 16:23.58 | wlt405 | ok, but i have no x86 here |
| 16:24.04 | wlt405 | ongly the powerbook |
| 16:24.07 | prpplague | GPSFan: oh yea, one my favorites |
| 16:24.12 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan: yeah - I like the stone IPAs |
| 16:24.14 | CosmicPenguin | me - I love hoppy |
| 16:24.41 | GPSFan | wlt405: that's admirable, but we are not the right folk to ask about that sort of native compile work. |
| 16:24.49 | CosmicPenguin | Hazed and Infused from the Bolder Brewery is one of my favorite beers ( |
| 16:24.56 | GPSFan | prpplague: MMMM MMMM good... |
| 16:25.08 | CosmicPenguin | http://ratebeer.com/Beer/boulder-beer-hazed-&-infused/16129/ |
| 16:25.10 | GPSFan | Avery has a nice IPA too. |
| 16:25.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh i saw that one at the store, guess i'll have to try it |
| 16:25.25 | Crofton | wlt405, and this lot is obsessed with beer |
| 16:25.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe, have the empty bottle from last weekend to prove avery has a good IPA |
| 16:25.42 | CosmicPenguin | the Avery IPA is the only Avery beer that impresses me... |
| 16:25.54 | Crofton | wlt405, can you try doing the work on a x86 with some form of cross compiler? |
| 16:26.09 | wlt405 | i have no x86 machine |
| 16:26.10 | CosmicPenguin | in fact: http://www.cosmicpenguin.net/?q=node/26 |
| 16:26.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they pyramid Thunderhead IPA is pretty decent as well as the IPA from Sierra Nevada |
| 16:26.21 | GPSFan | the only other Avery I drink is Elle's Brown. |
| 16:27.06 | GPSFan | wlt405: not so much with beer, but with good beer.. ;>) |
| 16:27.31 | wlt405 | :) |
| 16:27.57 | CosmicPenguin | The beer to be reviewed next month is the Duppel - and I'm fresh out of Colorado Duppels to try |
| 16:28.01 | CosmicPenguin | so I'm open for suggestions |
| 16:28.15 | CosmicPenguin | (Yeah, I know about the New Belgium Abbey Ale, but thats too widly available) |
| 16:29.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd have to grab my list, it tend to purchase alot of IPA's these days |
| 16:35.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: IPAs go well in hot weather. is it hot in Tx yet? |
| 16:36.20 | prpplague | GPSFan: naw, its pretty chilly still |
| 16:36.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: been hovering around 65C mostly |
| 16:36.43 | Crofton | um |
| 16:36.49 | Crofton | 65 C is not chilly |
| 16:36.55 | Crofton | 65 F is not chilly |
| 16:37.05 | prpplague | sorry 65F is what i meant |
| 16:37.08 | GPSFan | prpplague: must be Global warming. ;>) |
| 16:37.14 | prpplague | yea something like that |
| 16:39.00 | prpplague | my version of spanglish.... Celciheit |
| 16:41.30 | GPSFan | or is that farengrade, kelkine, or ranvin? |
| 16:41.53 | CosmicPenguin | kelkine was married to Brittney Spears, right? |
| 16:41.59 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 17:36.18 | wlt405 | about arm9 |
| 17:36.27 | wlt405 | is there any good working board ? |
| 17:36.36 | wlt405 | (supported by linux) |
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| 18:55.43 | prpplague | wlt405: literally hundreds of arm9 boards |
| 18:55.54 | prpplague | if not thousands |
| 19:05.46 | wmat | heh, my printer is arm9 no less |
| 19:08.39 | wlt405 | ok |
| 19:08.47 | wlt405 | suggest me 1 arm9 |
| 19:08.56 | wlt405 | that is used here |
| 19:09.04 | wlt405 | in this channel |
| 19:09.06 | wlt405 | :) |
| 19:09.50 | wlt405 | (i mean as target board) |
| 19:16.32 | wmat | http://www.kwikbyte.com/KB9202.html |
| 19:18.02 | wmat | http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=1309 |
| 19:18.13 | wmat | http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=1441 |
| 19:18.47 | wmat | http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/dev_kit_arm.php |
| 19:19.46 | wlt405 | thankyou |
| 19:20.41 | wmat | just call me Google ;) |
| 19:21.18 | wmat | http://www.gaotek.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=201&cPath=118_15_16 |
| 19:21.37 | wlt405 | :'( |
| 19:21.53 | wlt405 | i asked a board used by somebody here in the channel |
| 19:22.51 | wmat | why is that relevant? |
| 19:23.12 | wlt405 | 'cause of the collaboration |
| 19:23.55 | wmat | people would be more likely to collaborate/help with a board that they've not already used |
| 19:24.07 | wlt405 | i don't think so |
| 19:24.09 | wmat | as it's more interesting that way |
| 19:24.45 | wlt405 | if there is a problem, they haven't the hw to check by theirself |
| 19:25.03 | wlt405 | so everythink is much more complicate |
| 19:25.03 | wlt405 | as the walnut |
| 19:25.55 | wlt405 | just my opinion ... |
| 19:26.49 | wmat | yep |
| 19:27.21 | wlt405 | :P |
| 19:28.17 | wlt405 | the dma of 2.6.15 is bugged for example |
| 19:28.41 | wlt405 | if i speak about it, you can't check tested and verify |
| 19:28.42 | wmat | is there some reason you're running such an old kernel? |
| 19:28.59 | wlt405 | it is the only one running at the moment |
| 19:29.03 | wlt405 | as i explained |
| 19:29.11 | wlt405 | newer are not compiling |
| 19:29.17 | wlt405 | i'm emerging git |
| 19:29.24 | wlt405 | and asking a friend a x86 |
| 19:29.37 | wlt405 | but now i can't do nothing more |
| 19:29.42 | wmat | you'd be better off working out why current isn't compiling then using an old kernel |
| 19:30.17 | wlt405 | yes but i have a DMA problem |
| 19:30.34 | wlt405 | the walnut has to be used in a university project |
| 19:30.48 | wlt405 | and i've to plug a soundcard |
| 19:30.58 | wlt405 | soundcard requires DMA |
| 19:31.14 | wlt405 | i know, it's a dead loop |
| 19:31.36 | wmat | has to be used in a university project? |
| 19:31.39 | wlt405 | yes |
| 19:31.43 | wlt405 | to get my degree |
| 19:31.44 | wlt405 | :P |
| 19:31.50 | wmat | soem prof is making you use it? |
| 19:31.58 | wlt405 | yes |
| 19:32.05 | wlt405 | but i have no support |
| 19:32.16 | wlt405 | i'm an electronic |
| 19:32.23 | wlt405 | i did my electronic circuit |
| 19:32.48 | wlt405 | (irda controller to be interfaced to serial port) |
| 19:33.59 | wlt405 | gentoo is interfaced to a remote controller (like the TV one) easy |
| 19:33.59 | wlt405 | i mean fopen ("/dev/ttyS0" ... |
| 19:34.25 | prpplague | wlt405: generally speaking, most people collaborate with cpu speciific designs, i.e. the samsung s3c24xx series of boards |
| 19:34.29 | wlt405 | and my controller traslate light signals into ascii char directly to the serial port |
| 19:34.59 | wlt405 | :) |
| 19:35.08 | wlt405 | i had to buy my board |
| 19:35.18 | wlt405 | i found the walnut for < $100 |
| 19:35.26 | wlt405 | it is ok for this projet |
| 19:35.52 | prpplague | wlt405: thats why i got a job doing embedded dev, so i don't have to pay for my dev boards |
| 19:35.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:35.57 | agaffney | everyone in here got their walnuts for $20 :P |
| 19:36.04 | wlt405 | :| |
| 19:36.11 | wlt405 | $20 ? |
| 19:36.17 | agaffney | there was an online retailer who got a large batch of them |
| 19:36.20 | wlt405 | tell me about .... |
| 19:36.21 | agaffney | and sold them all off |
| 19:36.24 | agaffney | for cheap as hell |
| 19:36.26 | wlt405 | wow |
| 19:36.30 | agaffney | which is why many people have more than one |
| 19:36.34 | wlt405 | i was late ... |
| 19:36.41 | agaffney | I would have gotten >2 if I had the money for it at the time |
| 19:36.55 | wlt405 | why ? |
| 19:37.04 | wlt405 | 1, 2 are enought |
| 19:37.16 | agaffney | they're useful boards for various projects |
| 19:37.24 | wlt405 | NAS, or ipod |
| 19:37.26 | agaffney | although, I haven't really done anything with either of mine |
| 19:37.28 | wlt405 | whatelse ? |
| 19:37.58 | wlt405 | personally i think the most interesting idea is to use walnut as NAS |
| 19:38.01 | wlt405 | it is perfect ! |
| 19:38.19 | wlt405 | have you seen my case ? |
| 19:38.34 | wlt405 | (an orrible but nice one) |
| 19:38.41 | agaffney | no |
| 19:38.49 | wlt405 | wait 2 sec ... |
| 19:39.41 | wlt405 | http://www.webalice.it/devilcoder/wal-mini.jpg |
| 19:39.59 | wlt405 | http://www.webalice.it/devilcoder/wal-big-frontale.jpg |
| 19:40.00 | wlt405 | :) |
| 19:42.05 | agaffney | I've got 2 scsi enclosures that I'm gonna use for my walnut boards |
| 19:42.23 | wlt405 | eheheh |
| 19:42.32 | wlt405 | i want to see photos ! |
| 19:42.34 | wlt405 | ;) |
| 19:43.08 | wlt405 | what i used is an HP9000 serie external scsi harddisk enclosure |
| 19:43.24 | wlt405 | i modified it a lot |
| 19:43.31 | wlt405 | the black is the base of the sony playstation2 |
| 20:23.50 | wlt405 | agaffney ? |
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