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| 01:59.46 | prpplague | lordy lordy, speaks to how easy prpplague is entertained, http://www.cavemancrib.com |
| 01:59.54 | prpplague | hehe i've spent hours already there |
| 02:05.15 | prpplague | http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/05/tv.cavemen.ap/index.html |
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| 03:42.35 | MonMotha | purl: test |
| 03:42.50 | purl | Test Failed! |
| 04:04.52 | ds3 | is the JuiceBox part of this project? |
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| 13:23.44 | reppel | hi, is mklibs actually working in current buildroot? |
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| 20:00.50 | prpplague | hmm is there a bluetooth channel? |
| 20:05.53 | MonMotha | probably |
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| 20:42.38 | prpplague | hmm |
| 20:43.00 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... bluetooth |
| 20:43.05 | prpplague | bluez stuff seems to have gotten more complicated rather than less complicated |
| 20:43.24 | CosmicPenguin | you think? |
| 20:43.30 | prpplague | dbus libs are giving me a hard time cross compiling |
| 20:43.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 20:43.39 | CosmicPenguin | thats hardly bluez's fault |
| 20:43.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that its more complicated? |
| 20:44.21 | CosmicPenguin | that dbus doesn't build |
| 20:44.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed, just don't understand why it needs dbus at all |
| 20:46.27 | chouimat | prpplague because D-BUS is the new hot thing that you have to use everywhere :) |
| 20:46.42 | prpplague | chouimat: more bloat |
| 20:47.25 | chouimat | prpplague currently I think a lot of those using d-bus don't need IPC ... it just make their projects buzzword compliant :) |
| 20:48.15 | prpplague | really all i need is the one rfcomm command so i can bring up the interface |
| 20:49.01 | chouimat | prpplague look at avahi (bonjour implementation) I still don't understand why it use d-bus |
| 20:53.13 | prpplague | really surprised though, generally the linux/gnu/OSS crowd tend to make things easier, but this is ugly |
| 20:53.42 | CosmicPenguin | I think you're getting angry at the wrong people |
| 20:54.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not angry at all, just curious why bluez-utils is now so complicated |
| 21:03.56 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 21:17.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you have any experience with bt under linux? |
| 21:18.05 | chouimat | prpplague http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Yes,_That_0x27_s_Exactly_What_I_Meant.aspx ( I know it's OT but ...) |
| 21:18.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: a bit |
| 21:18.37 | CosmicPenguin | in fact, I just got BT running on my desktop today |
| 21:18.47 | CosmicPenguin | When we move to Fort Collins, I lose my office |
| 21:19.08 | T0mW | heh |
| 21:19.10 | CosmicPenguin | so I'll have to go back to headphones - so I'm considering doing bluetooth-alsa |
| 21:19.43 | T0mW | ~seen gpsfan |
| 21:20.23 | purl | gpsfan <n=kenm@12.10.255.248> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 25d 4h 38m 53s ago, saying: 'or is that farengrade, kelkine, or ranvin?'. |
| 21:20.23 | T0mW | purl: wakeup |
| 21:20.48 | T0mW | wow, he must have a real interesting project, or, someone pissed him off |
| 21:21.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just confused why it requires so much to get working, seems like bt stuff would want to be light to be used with portable devices |
| 21:22.48 | CosmicPenguin | but the thing about BT is that it *really* needs to be integrated |
| 21:23.10 | CosmicPenguin | bluetooth on its own is uninteresting |
| 21:23.21 | CosmicPenguin | bluetooth that automatically detects when your phone is nearby, thats more fun |
| 21:23.33 | CosmicPenguin | and for that, you need the nominal IPC and other such nonsense |
| 21:23.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but you should have the option for easier fixed connections |
| 21:24.36 | CosmicPenguin | I can't believe they didn't toss in a --disable-dbus opotion |
| 21:24.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea me either |
| 21:25.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the half a dozen other items |
| 21:25.41 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sure patches are welcome |
| 21:26.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm sure they would not like me molesting their pretty work |
| 21:48.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i must be missing something |
| 21:48.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is there a command to simply show the bluetooth devices in the area from the command line? |
| 21:49.02 | CosmicPenguin | hcitool scan |
| 21:49.25 | CosmicPenguin | keep in mind that the devices need to want to be found |
| 21:49.40 | CosmicPenguin | if you have a phone, for example, you probably need to enable it |
| 21:49.44 | CosmicPenguin | thats a security measure |
| 21:51.51 | CosmicPenguin | you don't need to do that once you know the addresses of your devices |
| 21:51.51 | prpplague | hmm, no devices available, hmm... |
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| 21:59.48 | CosmicPenguin | s/usb// |
| 22:00.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha ha |
| 22:01.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: shouldn't there be a /proc/bus/usb ? |
| 22:01.27 | CosmicPenguin | only if the usb subsystem is active |
| 22:01.30 | CosmicPenguin | did you boot with nousb? |
| 22:02.30 | prpplague | no it should be in there |
| 22:02.42 | prpplague | i do get a kernel message about a new usb device |
| 22:05.53 | prpplague | hmm something odd going on here |
| 22:05.53 | prpplague | its enable in the configu |
| 22:06.29 | CosmicPenguin | is the USB filesystem enabled too? |
| 22:06.37 | prpplague | yea |
| 22:09.55 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 22:10.00 | prpplague | getting close to the end of the day |
| 22:10.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: disappointed that it only took a few minutes to make this work under windows, a whole lot longer under linux :( |
| 22:11.07 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know what to tell you |
| 22:11.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, nothing at all, just gotta work through it |
| 22:11.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: put up some docs on elinux when i'm done |
| 22:12.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just trying to set up some serial port stuff |
| 22:14.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't suppose you have any urls or docs on setting up the bluez-utils? |
| 22:15.01 | CosmicPenguin | just the usual stuff |
| 22:15.29 | prpplague | hmm, i can't seem to find much |
| 22:24.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: think i'll pick up some milk stout for the 3 day weekend |
| 22:24.54 | CosmicPenguin | mmm |
| 22:25.01 | CosmicPenguin | I need to pick a duppel to drink this weekend |
| 22:30.02 | prpplague | hmm, |
| 22:30.10 | prpplague | can't seem to figure out whats going on here |
| 22:30.32 | prpplague | i have /proc/bus/usb showing up, but i don't get any data under it |
| 22:30.50 | CosmicPenguin | now you have to mount the fileysstem |
| 22:32.14 | prpplague | its mounted |
| 22:33.17 | CosmicPenguin | then there should be at least *something* there |
| 22:33.43 | prpplague | yea i know |
| 22:35.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, something screwy with this build, i'll start fresh in the morning |
| 23:09.05 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 23:41.30 | prpplague | chouimat: you alive? |
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| 23:45.03 | chouimat | prpplague: yes |
| 23:50.31 | prpplague | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6632276330.html |
| 23:50.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: isn't it funny how the discontinued stuff is what gets the most linux attention sometimes |
| 23:51.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no clue whats up with the usb on that device, hopefully i'll get that solved tomorrow |
| 23:51.37 | CosmicPenguin | whats funny is that they haven't bothered to contact OLPC |
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