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| 00:35.05 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 00:36.55 | prpplague | MonMotha: i got that code squeezed down to run on the atmega48 |
| 00:36.55 | prpplague | MonMotha: got some protoboards off to be made |
| 00:37.31 | pierrelux | what code ? |
| 00:37.51 | prpplague | pierrelux: a atmega128 project that needed to be scaled down |
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| 00:38.27 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: hey crack baby, was just looking to see if you were here |
| 00:39.09 | prpplague | pierrelux: you do any avr? |
| 00:39.40 | g1powermac_PB | heh |
| 00:40.46 | g1powermac_PB | project completion depression? hmm, I'm currently experiencing project resurrection depression :-) |
| 00:41.33 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: alot of the professional r&d people get a really bad depression on completion of projects |
| 00:41.43 | g1powermac_PB | started working on the store website again after months of neglect. . . . |
| 00:41.48 | prpplague | i usually get it hard |
| 00:42.01 | g1powermac_PB | and let me tell you, web design drives me crazy ;-) |
| 00:42.10 | prpplague | hehe |
| 00:42.24 | g1powermac_PB | so I'm not looking that forward to finishing this thing ;-) |
| 00:42.41 | g1powermac_PB | for the shear fact of having to play with css and php |
| 00:43.41 | g1powermac_PB | but anyway, yea, I understand ya |
| 00:44.41 | pierrelux | prpplague: I'm more into microchip's PIC |
| 00:45.01 | g1powermac_PB | anyway, if you have any thoughts of killing someone from the depression, shoot me first |
| 00:45.20 | g1powermac_PB | these allergies are driving me insane ontop of the css and php |
| 00:46.19 | prpplague | pierrelux: (joking with you) you also in to break dancing ? PICS are so 80's |
| 00:47.06 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: anyway, why were ya looking for me? |
| 00:47.36 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: nothing specific, just checking to see if you had joined in on #edev |
| 00:47.47 | g1powermac_PB | ahh |
| 00:47.59 | g1powermac_PB | yea, I join at night when I'm home |
| 00:48.45 | prpplague | pierrelux: you canadian? |
| 00:49.17 | pierrelux | yes I am... from quebec, french canadian |
| 00:49.45 | prpplague | pierrelux: ahh cool, did you happen to hear me telling chouimat|away about the local joke about one of dallas' |
| 00:49.53 | prpplague | dallas' hoker players? |
| 00:49.58 | prpplague | hockey |
| 00:50.08 | prpplague | not hoker, but we have those too |
| 00:50.32 | g1powermac_PB | btw, we must all move to Iowa: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/04/18/2227205.shtml and demand some money from MS :-) |
| 00:51.42 | pierrelux | I'm not a big hockey fan... but we are always having the latest news on #linux-quebec when the Canadiens hockey team is playing |
| 00:51.53 | prpplague | pierrelux: we had a local hockey player get in trouble for being drunk, yelling at people and fighting the police |
| 00:52.17 | pierrelux | where ? dallas ? |
| 00:52.35 | prpplague | pierrelux: the joke is "gosh an angry drunk hockey player, we didn't know he was from canada!" |
| 00:52.38 | prpplague | pierrelux: yea |
| 00:53.01 | prpplague | pierrelux: hockey doesn't get much coverage here |
| 00:53.05 | pierrelux | haha... i see, it's like the blamecanada tag on slashdot |
| 00:53.43 | prpplague | pierrelux: hehe, i think most of the people who saw it had no clue about the joke |
| 00:53.51 | prpplague | pierrelux: but oh well |
| 00:55.26 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 00:56.06 | prpplague | you know it almost disappointing when you do a new design and EVERYTHING works on the first rev |
| 00:56.09 | prpplague | :( |
| 00:56.29 | g1powermac_PB | hmmm |
| 00:57.21 | g1powermac_PB | I tend to think the other way |
| 00:57.32 | g1powermac_PB | if it works the first time, I'm thrilled |
| 00:57.55 | pierrelux | do you guys use OE ? |
| 00:57.57 | prpplague | hehe, if it works the first time, i think i've not been bold enough with the desing |
| 00:58.28 | prpplague | pierrelux: only when i;m tired of feeding my body parts to sharks |
| 00:59.08 | prpplague | pierrelux: good system, just over kill for what we do |
| 00:59.29 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: hmm, guess thats from experience, being a novice, and design is bold enough :-) |
| 00:59.35 | g1powermac_PB | s/and/any |
| 00:59.56 | prpplague | hehe, yea |
| 01:00.12 | prpplague | btdt |
| 01:00.52 | g1powermac_PB | dang I feel like crap |
| 01:00.58 | prpplague | me too |
| 01:01.09 | g1powermac_PB | stupid drip behind my nose is driving me insane |
| 01:01.16 | pierrelux | I'm using OE right now but I started with Buildroot... it's so huge. like 3Gb for the complete environment |
| 01:01.28 | prpplague | pierrelux: yea |
| 01:01.38 | prpplague | pierrelux: OE is massive compared to buildroot |
| 01:02.32 | pierrelux | I guess it's a power tool when you master it |
| 01:03.43 | prpplague | yea, if you have 50 different builds you need to do, or doing several different releases and you have no clue what your project needs |
| 01:03.49 | prpplague | its great |
| 01:04.04 | prpplague | but if you have very static builds, then it just eats time up |
| 01:04.38 | prpplague | when you have 10 or 15 custom apps and you build might change twice a year |
| 01:04.49 | prpplague | then OE is overkill |
| 01:05.10 | pierrelux | when it comes to Monotone... not that easy |
| 01:05.22 | prpplague | nope |
| 01:06.25 | prpplague | pierrelux: OE is run on "theory" not business, and the concepts that they use might be great, but it has some serious business problems as far as implementation, including things such as what i consider non-standard revision control |
| 01:23.02 | g1powermac_PB | maybe this isn't allergies. . . . |
| 01:27.05 | MonMotha | prpplague: ah, good |
| 01:51.23 | chouimat | prpplague: ???? |
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| 14:25.59 | sjhill | anyone ever see this message: |
| 14:26.17 | sjhill | Uncompressing Linux...inflate returned FFFFFFFB |
| 14:26.19 | sjhill | exit |
| 14:26.34 | sjhill | i'm trying to get an initramfs working |
| 14:27.26 | agaffney | did you append the initramfs to the kernel image? |
| 14:28.02 | agaffney | and if so, how? |
| 14:28.15 | sjhill | uh |
| 14:28.57 | agaffney | and by "how", I mean "did you use the option in the kernel to built the initramfs in or use something like piggyback on sparc?" |
| 14:29.34 | sjhill | CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE="/localfs/sjhill1/buildroot/trunk/build_powerpc/root" |
| 14:29.35 | sjhill | CONFIG_INITRAMFS_ROOT_UID=0 |
| 14:29.35 | sjhill | CONFIG_INITRAMFS_ROOT_GID=0 |
| 14:29.35 | sjhill | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y |
| 14:29.40 | sjhill | those are the only options |
| 14:29.45 | sjhill | then i just to make vmlinux |
| 14:29.50 | sjhill | s/to/do/ |
| 14:29.55 | agaffney | ok, so you're building it into the kernel |
| 14:30.02 | agaffney | I've never done it that way |
| 14:30.03 | sjhill | yep |
| 14:30.11 | agaffney | always seemed silly to me |
| 14:30.13 | sjhill | how do you do the append thingee |
| 14:30.21 | agaffney | since you can't put the kernel modules in the initramfs |
| 14:30.41 | agaffney | sjhill: I'm not sure there's a non-sparc equivelant to piggyback{,64} |
| 14:30.46 | sjhill | ah |
| 14:30.48 | agaffney | but then, it may "just work" on other arches |
| 14:31.01 | agaffney | I don't think there's anything sparc specific |
| 14:32.41 | agaffney | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sparc-utils/sparc-utils_1.9.orig.tar.gz |
| 14:32.53 | agaffney | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sparc-utils/sparc-utils_1.9-3.diff.gz |
| 14:35.09 | agaffney | it certainly builds just fine on x86 |
| 14:35.30 | agaffney | kirara sparc-utils-1.9.orig # src/piggyback |
| 14:35.31 | agaffney | Usage: piggyback vmlinux.aout System.map fs_img.gz Kernel image will be modified in place. |
| 14:35.48 | agaffney | although, it may expect an a.out kernel |
| 14:35.54 | agaffney | which is required for sparc netboot |
| 14:36.42 | agaffney | I'm sure someone with more skills than me can modify the program to not care about a.out |
| 14:36.51 | agaffney | it looks like it only checks just because that's what OBP expects |
| 14:38.08 | agaffney | I can't even tell what the program is actually doing :P |
| 14:38.18 | sjhill | heh |
| 14:38.39 | agaffney | there are lots and lots of "magic numbers" |
| 14:38.43 | agaffney | and very few comments |
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| 18:12.34 | prpplague | T0mW: ping |
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| 18:51.42 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 18:51.51 | Crofton | wew |
| 18:53.48 | Crofton | hmm about to see a lauterbach demo |
| 18:55.32 | MonMotha | wow, they're slowly going back up |
| 18:55.41 | MonMotha | actually rather quickly |
| 18:55.53 | MonMotha | after all, 4 pennies is quite a lot when you're below $1 :) |
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| 21:46.58 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 21:47.11 | prpplague | 4 days to go |
| 21:58.33 | g1powermac_PB | yo prpplague^2 |
| 21:58.41 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague^2: looks like I got bronchitis |
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| 22:28.41 | prpplague | T0mW: ping |
| 22:29.14 | T0mW | prpplague: hey |
| 22:30.27 | prpplague | T0mW: package is being reshipped tomorrow |
| 22:30.40 | prpplague | T0mW: they shipped it to a customer and it was returned |
| 22:30.44 | T0mW | lol |
| 22:30.48 | prpplague | T0mW: been shipping on the shelf in the back |
| 22:31.04 | T0mW | ~lart shipping staff |
| 22:31.04 | purl | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking shipping staff's head off |
| 22:31.04 | prpplague | T0mW: the other thing is i'm getting a weird problem |
| 22:31.05 | prpplague | T0mW: in eagle |
| 22:31.27 | T0mW | prpplague: if you can make it quick, I've got to leave in a few. |
| 22:31.31 | prpplague | T0mW: running the edr i get: ERROR: OUTPUT and SUPPLY Pins mixed on net VCC |
| 22:31.53 | prpplague | T0mW: the problem appears to stem from a ldo output being connected to VCC |
| 22:32.08 | prpplague | T0mW: is there a trick for doing that so edr doesn't complain? |
| 22:32.39 | T0mW | prpplague: edit the library and change the sex of the pin |
| 22:33.08 | prpplague | T0mW: doh, its one of cadsoft libs |
| 22:33.09 | T0mW | prpplague: change it to passive |
| 22:33.19 | T0mW | prpplague: you can do that |
| 22:33.27 | prpplague | yea, still seems odd |
| 22:34.40 | T0mW | prpplague: it happens |
| 22:35.19 | T0mW | prpplague: mostly, you can ignore it, the errors like that have no effect, other than to alert you of a potential misuse of a pine |
| 22:35.26 | T0mW | s/pine/pin |
| 22:36.57 | prpplague | T0mW: okie dokie |
| 22:36.58 | prpplague | thanks |
| 22:37.51 | g1powermac_PB | yo prpplague |
| 22:38.09 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: looks like I got bronchitis |
| 22:39.58 | prpplague | doh |
| 23:00.10 | sunrunner20 | woot |
| 23:00.17 | sunrunner20 | prpplague: my new laptop is in misquet :) |
| 23:00.28 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:05.22 | sunrunner20 | my old one is holding down some papers atm |
| 23:05.28 | sunrunner20 | and is soon to be my moms new pc |
| 23:05.30 | sunrunner20 | err |
| 23:05.31 | sunrunner20 | "new" |
| 23:09.28 | sunrunner20 | its a toshiba M7 |
| 23:09.32 | sunrunner20 | not configed how i'd like it |
| 23:09.33 | sunrunner20 | but |
| 23:09.34 | sunrunner20 | meh |
| 23:09.48 | sunrunner20 | I figure I'm better off w/o a decient video card |
| 23:09.58 | sunrunner20 | so I cna't play games when i'm supposed to be working |
| 23:11.46 | sunrunner20 | bought it from newegg |
| 23:11.50 | sunrunner20 | got some free ram |
| 23:11.57 | sunrunner20 | hopefully it'll run dual channel w/ it |
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