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| 14:59.58 | CosmicPenguin | I am double the op! |
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| 15:09.43 | Crofton | Where is the plague |
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| 17:51.37 | sunrunner20 | woont |
| 17:51.38 | sunrunner20 | *woot |
| 17:51.45 | sunrunner20 | i'm salautatorian bitches |
| 17:54.41 | Crofton | high school? |
| 17:56.16 | sunrunner20 | yup |
| 18:20.55 | wmat | by any chance, does someone have HD64461 specs? It's an old Hitachi LCD controller that was in the HP Jornada |
| 18:22.01 | MonMotha | I've got the HD44780 specs... :) |
| 18:25.44 | wmat | i'm sure i have them somewhere, but finding them would require cleaning |
| 18:27.43 | chouimat | :) |
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| 18:51.40 | MonMotha | wmat: just build one |
| 18:54.01 | wmat | MonMotha: perhaps, if i can keep my 5 year old out of my workshop long enough |
| 19:08.21 | ds2 | someone else messing with a jornada? |
| 19:09.48 | wmat | yeah |
| 19:10.40 | wmat | although, i haven't turned it on in ages. Another guy i know was looking for that spec. |
| 19:25.01 | ds2 | which jornada is that? |
| 19:31.30 | wmat | the HD64461 is in the Jornada 690 |
| 19:45.02 | flyback | wmat I hope you didn't trash the jornade to get the lcd |
| 19:45.19 | sunrunner20 | jornade? |
| 19:47.20 | flyback | don't be an ass |
| 19:48.19 | flyback | wmat you might want to see if the jornada 690 can run linux |
| 19:52.18 | flyback | yo wmat |
| 19:52.19 | flyback | http://www.hpcfactor.com/reviews/software/jlime/donkey-1-0-2/ |
| 19:52.39 | wmat | flyback: it does |
| 19:52.50 | flyback | i'd give it a go then :) |
| 19:53.12 | flyback | I might put uclinux on my palm IIIxe or IIIx someday when I get lcd's for them |
| 19:53.41 | wmat | i already have run linux on my jornada |
| 19:53.46 | flyback | the IIIxe also has a busted rom and needs a bootstrap, via serial, I wanted to do this yrs ago but I got sick |
| 19:53.50 | flyback | neat |
| 19:53.55 | flyback | I want to put linux on my palm t5 |
| 19:54.04 | flyback | as soon as that 2 gig sd card arrives I might |
| 19:54.05 | wmat | however, the dev guys are looking for the frame buffer driver spec so they can fix the touchscreen stuff |
| 19:54.11 | flyback | ah ok |
| 19:54.29 | wmat | old datasheets seem to be hard to find |
| 19:54.36 | flyback | na you can find them :) |
| 19:54.49 | flyback | i'm going to sell my juiceboxes off |
| 19:54.50 | wmat | google is failing me |
| 19:54.55 | flyback | I decided they aren't worth the hassle |
| 19:55.02 | flyback | old routers with arm7tdmi are much easier |
| 19:55.10 | flyback | more spaceing on the board etc |
| 19:56.00 | flyback | friend of mine gave me a ne2000 isa clone and another one that has a realtek rtl8019as chip = #1 8 bit embedded ether chip |
| 19:56.02 | flyback | woot |
| 19:56.35 | flyback | I just gotta balance work and this to get some time to play :) |
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| 20:16.00 | wmat | flyback: yeah, that's my problem as well |
| 20:16.24 | wmat | unfortunately i don't get paid to work on anything interesting |
| 20:16.56 | flyback | I do |
| 20:17.00 | flyback | virtual pc and vmware :0 |
| 20:39.07 | ds2 | flyback: you need a Palm III series LCD? |
| 20:39.24 | flyback | well need lcd and digitizer, 2 of them, actually I have one good just lcd |
| 20:39.29 | flyback | IIIx and IIIxe |
| 20:39.40 | ds2 | how much would you offer for a LCD + digitizer? |
| 20:40.11 | flyback | heh i'm broke for now :) |
| 20:40.15 | ds2 | oh |
| 20:40.20 | flyback | lets see if I keep this job despite the health problems |
| 20:40.25 | ds2 | okie... I have a dead TRGpro |
| 20:40.26 | flyback | I dunno $10? cause online it's around that much |
| 20:40.30 | ds2 | (dead MB) |
| 20:40.32 | flyback | did you try to save it? |
| 20:40.56 | flyback | does it respond at all? |
| 20:40.57 | ds2 | it isn't completely dead, it is flaky |
| 20:41.09 | flyback | palm os always was :P |
| 20:41.21 | ds2 | I inspected it and gave up cuz I can't use a pda that crashes everytime i put it in my pocket |
| 20:41.39 | flyback | did you check for loose solder joints |
| 20:41.54 | ds2 | that was what I looked for during the inspection |
| 20:42.11 | ds2 | be happy to get rid of the MB too ;) |
| 20:42.25 | flyback | yeah keep them on file for now |
| 20:42.25 | ds2 | and this is a TRGpro MB; they are "rare" :) |
| 20:42.29 | flyback | I will get back to you |
| 20:42.32 | ds2 | let me know |
| 20:42.42 | ds2 | it is not like people are clamoring to buy it =) |
| 20:42.47 | flyback | wanna trade a juicebox for it maby? |
| 20:42.58 | ds2 | hahah... got 3 of them already |
| 20:43.03 | flyback | 8 meg ones? |
| 20:43.11 | ds2 | 1 8M and 2 2M |
| 20:43.15 | flyback | ah ok |
| 20:43.21 | ds2 | along with extra MP3 kits |
| 20:43.40 | flyback | I have 2 new in box 8 meg and 2 beat up scratched 8 meg units left |
| 20:44.14 | ds2 | zipit would be interesting |
| 20:44.34 | ds2 | but the problem with the JB's is I don't have time to add the JTAG lines or to look for an XD adapter card :/ |
| 20:44.37 | flyback | yeah I decided router hacking would be easier |
| 20:44.44 | flyback | well did you see the pic hack for them |
| 20:44.47 | flyback | I thought about doing this |
| 20:44.48 | ds2 | *nod* |
| 20:44.52 | flyback | the guy even sells them preprogrammed |
| 20:44.55 | ds2 | the one with the PIC 508? |
| 20:45.00 | flyback | whatever it was |
| 20:45.33 | ds2 | nice idea and that might be the quickest way |
| 20:45.46 | ds2 | but this is behind a supercharged WebPal project |
| 20:45.54 | flyback | hahaha |
| 20:45.59 | flyback | I have one of those too |
| 20:46.01 | ds2 | the webpals are nice |
| 20:46.10 | ds2 | got spare unopened webpals too =) |
| 20:46.31 | flyback | well I got a rtl8019as isa nic |
| 20:46.32 | flyback | BITCH |
| 20:46.34 | flyback | :P |
| 20:46.56 | ds2 | got one running with standard stuff; I just need time to tack on stuff so I can have 4M flash on them |
| 20:47.23 | ds2 | maybe even put in a harddrive |
| 20:47.34 | flyback | I also have a dht-walnut and now that someone gave me linksys router |
| 20:47.41 | flyback | I am not going to use the ppc for router |
| 20:47.46 | flyback | so I can use it for cooler stuff |
| 20:48.00 | ds2 | what's a dht-walnut? |
| 20:48.11 | flyback | google |
| 20:48.55 | ds2 | nice |
| 20:49.16 | ds2 | one of these days I should get linux on a Cisco 804 |
| 20:49.16 | flyback | yeah they were for $20 I should have got more |
| 20:54.01 | flyback | what cpu is that |
| 21:07.39 | ds2 | Motorola MPC850 |
| 21:07.54 | ds2 | PPC core but basically an entire router on a chip |
| 21:08.45 | flyback | oooo |
| 21:08.45 | flyback | dude |
| 21:08.45 | flyback | linux can run on those afaik |
| 21:08.49 | flyback | ppc might have farted out performance wise for the desktop |
| 21:08.51 | ds2 | the hard part is getting their stupid bootload to accept an image |
| 21:08.55 | flyback | but they still own your "canuck" for embedded |
| 21:09.07 | flyback | what if you snatch off the rom and replace the bootloader |
| 21:09.15 | ds2 | they run a proprietary bootloader |
| 21:09.36 | ds2 | sure, that should be doable but I don't have a burner for the EEPROM |
| 21:11.49 | ds2 | if i can find a way of loading an image, there is an entire family of routers that can be running linux |
| 21:19.10 | flyback | wait |
| 21:19.12 | flyback | is it a eeprom |
| 21:19.23 | flyback | cause you can hack together a programmer |
| 21:19.27 | ds2 | technically, flash |
| 21:19.38 | flyback | hell even a old network card can be used as a crude programmer |
| 21:19.44 | flyback | if it supports that chip and it will fit |
| 21:19.54 | flyback | i've even used a pc bios socket and hot swapped |
| 21:19.56 | flyback | in a pinch |
| 21:20.04 | ds2 | it is a matter of being a high density SMT part |
| 21:20.10 | ds2 | it is not normally socketed |
| 21:21.09 | ds2 | i suspect it will be easier (not sure if it is legal) to just hack the image format; AFAIK, it is an ELF image with a special header |
| 21:21.11 | flyback | oh ouch |
| 21:21.19 | ds2 | oh and it is not a normal PC part |
| 21:21.20 | flyback | that's why I love this old linksys befsr41 v2 router |
| 21:21.29 | flyback | the flash is a solderd plcc chip with a place for a 2nd chip |
| 21:21.35 | flyback | going to replace them both with plcc sockets :) |
| 21:21.37 | ds2 | the linksys b* series is hackable? |
| 21:21.40 | flyback | and the ram is j-lead soldered |
| 21:21.46 | ds2 | you are lucky it is PLCC |
| 21:21.46 | flyback | again I can solder in sockets for more ran |
| 21:21.53 | flyback | right now it has 512kb flash and 512kb ram |
| 21:21.55 | flyback | so I need to add more |
| 21:22.07 | flyback | well the cpu is a 60 mhz arm7tdmi samsung that has linux support |
| 21:22.12 | flyback | and most of the other chips inside do also |
| 21:22.16 | flyback | so it should be possible |
| 21:22.38 | ds2 | hmm |
| 21:22.53 | flyback | someone even wrote a 'BIOS' for this samsung chip |
| 21:22.59 | flyback | kinda a do all bootloader |
| 21:23.33 | flyback | I have a feeling the arm7tdmi is going to go down in history like the m68k did |
| 21:23.44 | ds2 | heh |
| 21:23.46 | flyback | even when it's outdated too much it will end up in hallmark musical xmas cards or something |
| 21:23.47 | flyback | :P |
| 21:23.52 | ds2 | does the samsung have a MMU? |
| 21:23.58 | flyback | no arm7tdmi is mmuless |
| 21:24.10 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.14 | ds2 | outdated? heh I was working on an 8051 a few months ago |
| 21:24.15 | flyback | but there is a uclinux port |
| 21:24.20 | ds2 | isn't this the same as the JB? |
| 21:24.20 | flyback | no dude you missed the point |
| 21:24.23 | flyback | and 8051 is my favorite |
| 21:24.24 | flyback | :) |
| 21:24.37 | flyback | well they are both 7tdmi I dunno if it's the same soc |
| 21:24.52 | ds2 | the Webpal is an arm7tdmi so some of them have mmu |
| 21:25.07 | flyback | no |
| 21:25.11 | flyback | it's a real arm7 |
| 21:25.16 | flyback | even has a cirrus non standard fpu also |
| 21:25.26 | flyback | sshame linux doesn't support that we could do some video and mp3 |
| 21:25.35 | ds2 | heh... add it :P |
| 21:25.36 | flyback | here |
| 21:25.38 | flyback | http://sourceforge.net/projects/bios-lt/ |
| 21:26.00 | flyback | a lot of low end rouiters use a arm7tdmi and many use this samsung soc so I can't wait to get a bunch of discarded routers |
| 21:26.05 | flyback | for hacking into cheap devel boards |
| 21:26.09 | flyback | much easier than trying to do a juicebox |
| 21:26.15 | ds2 | thought the webpal did thumb and such like the TDMI, but didn't bother with the JTAG debug? |
| 21:26.30 | flyback | dunno but I know it's a full arm with mmu |
| 21:26.43 | flyback | I wish I could figure out how to hack it to drive a lcd easily |
| 21:26.52 | flyback | might just have to break down and find a cheap analog lcd to attach |
| 21:27.01 | flyback | or connect a cell phone lcd to the parallel port :P |
| 21:27.04 | ds2 | just use the NTSC out |
| 21:27.12 | flyback | yeah but that requires a ntsc lcd :p |
| 21:27.26 | ds2 | they are cheap |
| 21:27.34 | ds2 | or just use a VGA LCD screen ;) |
| 21:30.12 | chouimat | Jesus is gone |
| 21:34.43 | flyback | really nice talking to you |
| 21:34.46 | flyback | I hope to see you again |
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