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| 01:37.53 | flyback | anyone here use a webpal and before you converted it to linux, played with the stock firmware |
| 01:38.01 | flyback | did you get it to work with a 3rd party ppp dial in up |
| 01:38.02 | flyback | isp |
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| 01:42.02 | CP|too | I never even turned mine on |
| 01:44.15 | Crofton | I hear Intel is trying to get in on the OLPCaction |
| 01:44.45 | CP|too | I have no comment on that |
| 01:46.11 | Crofton | you tease |
| 01:47.32 | CP|too | I'm mean like that |
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| 08:19.15 | SpaceMonkey_ | greetz |
| 09:45.44 | Crofton | gm |
| 09:47.11 | SpaceMonkey_ | yo |
| 09:47.19 | SpaceMonkey_ | early for you isnt it? |
| 09:49.38 | Crofton | yeah |
| 09:51.03 | SpaceMonkey_ | lol. have you ever used the sysfs() call? Im using it to determine how much room left on a device, its pretty sweet. Problem is dosent register if you remove a device :( |
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| 14:13.39 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:14.39 | SpaceMonkey_ | afternoon :) |
| 14:16.07 | Crofton | ~ugt |
| 14:16.09 | purl | i guess ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 14:16.35 | SpaceMonkey_ | lol |
| 14:18.13 | SpaceMonkey_ | chicks love this sort of talk, thats why IRC users are irresistible to the opposite sex. |
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| 15:06.44 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 15:07.41 | CosmicPenguin | hello |
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| 17:01.23 | engyro | define:"small consumer electronic devices" anyone? |
| 17:04.17 | wmat | engyro: it's a somewhat vague description that's open for interpretation |
| 17:04.50 | engyro | okie dokie |
| 17:04.52 | wmat | given that the latest Motorola phone has more processing power and memory than some desktops I still use |
| 17:05.19 | wmat | but anything with somewhat specific purpose, perhaps |
| 17:05.21 | engyro | blimey |
| 17:06.52 | wmat | like a phone, PDA, game console, etc. |
| 17:06.52 | engyro | okay |
| 17:06.52 | engyro | thanks :) |
| 17:06.52 | wmat | but the smaller the better |
| 17:06.52 | wmat | no prob |
| 17:06.53 | engyro | ive never delved into gadget hacks, but would like to find out more about mobile fones and how they work |
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| 17:40.53 | SpaceMonkey | Aww man dosent Billy Bronco suck in Carlitos Way. Damn him to hades. |
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| 17:48.32 | engyro | indeed |
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| 17:49.28 | SpaceMonkey | um, wrong window :) - still Damn him. Bwilly Bwonko fwom-da bwonks. |
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| 17:56.11 | SpaceMonkey | On a slightly more relevant, has anyone here had much success using any ARM Linux system profilers. I am curious regarding how my CPU is actually spent on an application level, /proc and even top do a reasonable job for a general overview. Ideally something with a little more resolution. |
| 17:56.13 | Crofton | oprofile? |
| 17:56.45 | ds2 | there was some talkin on the gumstix list about powertop but nothing more but this may be a bit indirect for what you want |
| 17:58.29 | SpaceMonkey | Crofton: Oprofile looks interesting, have you used it yourself? |
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| 17:58.50 | Crofton | on x86 |
| 17:59.15 | Crofton | I haven't tried it on ARM, yet |
| 17:59.56 | SpaceMonkey | Crofton: does it have a Kernel Module that needs to be loaded in? |
| 18:00.09 | Crofton | yeah |
| 18:00.45 | SpaceMonkey | Does it try to patch everything inserting hooks? |
| 18:00.57 | Crofton | I don't think so |
| 18:01.23 | CosmicPenguin | It uses periodic NMIs or interrupts to profile |
| 18:01.37 | SpaceMonkey | Coolio. I hate anything that messes with my already duct-taped kernel |
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| 18:13.58 | SpaceMonkey | Crofton: what is the status of the wikis, are the "stable" |
| 18:15.24 | Crofton | they should be |
| 18:15.54 | SpaceMonkey | When were you thinking of advertising em to the ml |
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| 18:20.57 | wmat | what wikis? |
| 18:21.21 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: your wikis :) but namely the /davinci section |
| 18:21.32 | wmat | ah |
| 18:21.57 | wmat | elinux.org is up and live now, so it's stable i guess |
| 18:22.11 | wmat | as it's a wiki, the content is always in a bit of flux though |
| 18:22.16 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: can unregistered usere still post content? |
| 18:22.25 | wmat | nope |
| 18:22.32 | wmat | that was fixed last night |
| 18:22.39 | wmat | or so i'm told, i haven't tested it yet |
| 18:22.42 | SpaceMonkey | lol |
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| 18:23.25 | SpaceMonkey | Crofton: Ill let you post he advert whenever you think we should |
| 18:23.28 | wmat | SpaceMonkey: nice contributions! |
| 18:27.20 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: cheers, I thought I should add a few little bits while I had some time. I wish I just took more pictures of my past mods etc. But at least there is somewhere to post all the new ones! |
| 18:27.41 | wmat | awesome, and thanks |
| 18:29.09 | SpaceMonkey | I am planning to start hacking my Neuros OSD, as its a very similar platform. I think any potential ARM hackers should try to buy one, they are almost a davinci and just a few dollars. |
| 18:29.40 | wmat | SpaceMonkey: I just got one of those |
| 18:30.50 | wmat | there's a #neuros, btw |
| 18:34.03 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: I know, but this channel is more fun |
| 18:34.47 | wmat | that it is |
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| 18:35.42 | prpplague | SpaceMonkey: nerous? |
| 18:35.43 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: I have a hello world program compiled on davinci. I cant seem to run it on the OSD, Im getting -sh: ./hello: not found |
| 18:36.04 | SpaceMonkey | prpplague: www.neurosaudio.com |
| 18:36.24 | wmat | prpplague: it's a cool little device |
| 18:36.39 | wmat | i bought mine to use though, i need a second to hack on |
| 18:37.03 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: I want one for every TV :) |
| 18:37.18 | chouimat | wmat: expensive? |
| 18:37.19 | wmat | just have less tv's :) |
| 18:37.30 | SpaceMonkey | anyone got any ideas about my hello world problem |
| 18:37.32 | wmat | chouimat: < $300 CDN |
| 18:37.55 | chouimat | wmat: not bad ... will have to wait a few months :( |
| 18:37.56 | SpaceMonkey | they have processors that are like pre-production davincis |
| 18:38.04 | prpplague | interesting |
| 18:38.08 | chouimat | CPU? |
| 18:38.10 | prpplague | a little too expensive for me |
| 18:38.12 | wmat | SpaceMonkey: did you -o to hello |
| 18:38.14 | SpaceMonkey | DM320 |
| 18:38.20 | SpaceMonkey | -o > |
| 18:38.21 | SpaceMonkey | ? |
| 18:38.50 | wmat | gcc -o hello hello.c |
| 18:38.51 | SpaceMonkey | "arm_v5t_le-gcc hello.c -o hello" |
| 18:39.03 | chouimat | OSD? |
| 18:39.03 | wmat | ah |
| 18:39.27 | prpplague | chouimat: i'm guessing Open Source Development |
| 18:39.42 | SpaceMonkey | On screen display ;) |
| 18:39.48 | prpplague | ahh |
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| 18:40.03 | SpaceMonkey | im guessing open source dev is more likely! |
| 18:40.20 | prpplague | i'd like to find a nice little box that i can use to plug into a stereo and play net radio stations |
| 18:40.46 | wmat | prpplague: you could make the OSD do that |
| 18:40.54 | SpaceMonkey | prpplague: upi should be able to make it do thatr |
| 18:40.55 | SpaceMonkey | lol |
| 18:40.59 | prpplague | wmat: yea, just don't want to pay $300 for it |
| 18:41.33 | SpaceMonkey | prpplague: Its quite expensive, but sooo suitable for serious hackulations |
| 18:42.12 | wmat | SpaceMonkey: try it w/o the -o and see if a.out runs |
| 18:42.28 | chouimat | prpplague: give me 5 minutes I'm trying to find the one I want |
| 18:42.37 | wmat | prpplague: ask the Neuros guys for a free one |
| 18:42.48 | prpplague | chouimat: what? |
| 18:42.51 | wmat | prpplague: they have dev boards available |
| 18:42.59 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: I dont have any devtools to try it, but will do. have you executed code on yours yet? |
| 18:43.00 | chouimat | prpplague: cheaper than 300CAD :) |
| 18:43.01 | wmat | or they did anyway |
| 18:43.04 | prpplague | wmat: naw, doesn't spark any interest |
| 18:43.19 | wmat | SpaceMonkey: no, i haven't even turned mine on yet |
| 18:43.33 | chouimat | prpplague: look for the Hauppauge MediaMVP |
| 18:43.34 | SpaceMonkey | wmat: LOL! first thing I did was dismantle it! |
| 18:43.35 | wmat | i just got it, plus was away all last weekend |
| 18:43.42 | chouimat | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html |
| 18:43.50 | ds2 | Mmmmmm media mvp |
| 18:44.22 | chouimat | prpplague: I can have it for 105cad ... so I guess you can get it fairly cheap in the us |
| 18:44.40 | wmat | chouimat: our Loonie's are almost == 1USD |
| 18:44.50 | chouimat | wmat: I know :) |
| 18:45.07 | chouimat | wmat: 0.9236 last time I checked |
| 18:45.12 | prpplague | chouimat: hackable? |
| 18:45.28 | wmat | prpplague: it's built to be hackable |
| 18:45.30 | chouimat | prpplague: linux powepc based ... need dhcp and bootp no flash |
| 18:45.53 | prpplague | chouimat: ahh |
| 18:46.02 | ds2 | mediaMVP's was being sold cheap... $40 |
| 18:46.08 | prpplague | wmat: the neuros or the media mvp? |
| 18:46.24 | chouimat | prpplague: it's the major reason I want one ... no risk for me to brick it :) |
| 18:46.27 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, i'm not interested in the video portion |
| 18:46.42 | wmat | prpplague: the neuros |
| 18:46.54 | prpplague | wmat: yea, thats why it doesn't interest me |
| 18:47.09 | chouimat | prpplague: same for me ... I just want to get my 40K mp3s to play on my 2000$ soundsystem in the living room |
| 18:48.53 | wmat | ah, heh, well somebody has to hack the hard stuff |
| 18:48.54 | ds2 | the mediamvp comes with a remote input and a remote itself |
| 18:48.54 | prpplague | ds2: that'd be handy |
| 18:48.55 | chouimat | prpplague: http://www.mvpmc.org/ |
| 18:49.16 | ds2 | prpplague: the mediamvp makes a very nice PPC dev platform |
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| 18:51.45 | prpplague | hmm |
| 18:51.57 | prpplague | their documenation on the hardware seems lacking |
| 18:52.36 | ds2 | yes, IBM did not give out details on the MPEG acceleration |
| 18:52.43 | ds2 | so all of it is reversed engineered |
| 18:53.34 | chouimat | prpplague: I know it's the cpu is an ibm stb02500 (powerpc 405) |
| 18:54.18 | prpplague | ds2: yea, but they could of atleast added some pages with a hardware list |
| 18:54.22 | steliosk | the hardware mpg part is not |
| 18:54.53 | steliosk | the same cpu is used on Dreambox set receivers |
| 18:54.58 | steliosk | s/set/sat |
| 18:55.16 | silverpower | How powerful is the 405 it uses? |
| 18:56.35 | chouimat | silverpower: don;t know |
| 18:57.24 | steliosk | i *think* its at 233 Mhz |
| 18:59.30 | silverpower | Oh, yeesh. How can it be powerful enough to do anything interesting video-wise? I mean, MPEG video accelerators typically only accelerate MPEG1/2, but can't do a thing with your average divx/xvid stream or decode h.264, last I checked. |
| 18:59.57 | ds2 | silverpower: yep, that's why the free mediamvp software requires a transcoder on a PC =) |
| 19:00.17 | steliosk | yep just mpg stuff in hardware accelaration |
| 19:00.36 | chouimat | silverpower: and don't forget that the "target market" is users not hackers :) |
| 19:01.32 | silverpower | chouimat, well, if it can't cope with h.264 or divx/xvid, it kinda defeats the purpose IMO. |
| 19:01.48 | silverpower | (Without assistance, I mean.) |
| 19:02.50 | prpplague | brb |
| 19:03.01 | silverpower | (it'd probably be easier to work with than my Walnut boards, though.) |
| 19:04.13 | chouimat | silverpower: the device doesn't have any storage ... all the stuff is downloaded from the PC ... and the windows application (iirc) transcode the avi to mpeg format before sending it to the device |
| 19:04.14 | silverpower | MPEG-2? |
| 19:04.38 | ds2 | hacking is trival, pop a new dongle.bin onto the TFTP server, power cycle and you are done |
| 19:04.42 | chouimat | I think so ... I didn't got one yet ... and I personally don't care about the video part ... maybe except to build something that can enable me to see my emails or my todo list in the living room :) |
| 19:05.39 | SpaceMonkey | If anyone is interested int the the specs of the ARM side of the OSD :- http://pastebin.ca/505772 |
| 19:05.45 | chouimat | (so I can replace the 25 ft serial cable between my network and my dreamcast) |
| 19:05.48 | ds2 | I been pretty happy with it; except the video - audio sync drifts |
| 19:06.02 | ds2 | shoutcast/mp3/ogg plays prefectly |
| 19:06.18 | chouimat | SpaceMonkey: cool arm926 |
| 19:06.30 | silverpower | How much memory's onboard? Can it run X11 or is this a fb-only app? |
| 19:06.44 | ds2 | let me telnet in |
| 19:06.51 | chouimat | the mediamvp? 16MB iirc |
| 19:06.58 | ds2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.02 | ds2 | looks like 16 |
| 19:07.12 | chouimat | ds2: cat /proc/cpuinfo :) |
| 19:07.15 | ds2 | one sec |
| 19:07.21 | silverpower | and no flash, so everything has to be in dongle.bin... |
| 19:07.30 | ds2 | processor : 0 |
| 19:07.33 | ds2 | cpu : unknown (51510950) |
| 19:07.36 | ds2 | clock : 252MHz |
| 19:07.40 | ds2 | revision : 9.80 (pvr 5151 0950) |
| 19:07.42 | ds2 | bogomips : 251.49 |
| 19:07.45 | ds2 | machine : IBM Redwood6 |
| 19:07.45 | chouimat | silverpower: it can use NFS if you want |
| 19:07.46 | ds2 | plb bus clock : 63MHz |
| 19:07.48 | ds2 | oops |
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| 19:07.52 | wmat | chouimat: you have a 25ft. serial cable to your dreamcast? |
| 19:07.58 | chouimat | wmat: yup |
| 19:08.25 | chouimat | wmat: and it sucks :) |
| 19:08.27 | ds2 | it was a great deal at $40 |
| 19:08.48 | silverpower | chouimat, hmm. I dunno - I thought of an application, but it's nothing my Walnut can't do any better. MythTV support is more compelling, though. |
| 19:09.36 | chouimat | silverpower: it's the cheapest device that I found that could be plugged on my network and play my music collection on my soundsystem ... |
| 19:11.23 | silverpower | Point, and at $40, it's not like I'm going to lose much if I can't think of anything to do with it... |
| 19:11.34 | ds2 | choiumat: you could have used a WL500G or a NSLU2 |
| 19:11.54 | chouimat | I have a nslu2 ... don't know the other one |
| 19:12.19 | ds2 | WL500G - Asus version of the WRT54G, difference is it comes with a parallel port + USB |
| 19:12.26 | ds2 | so stick a USB audio on there and you are set |
| 19:12.56 | chouimat | ds2: I'm in ottawa,on and some of those nice devices are hard to get in the local store ... I got a nice wrtsl54gs ... if only I can get the jtag on it so I can debrick it |
| 19:13.50 | ds2 | chouimat: yes, ASUS isn't very common amount distributors :/ |
| 19:14.51 | chouimat | ds2: and it only support 2.4 so far :( |
| 19:15.03 | ds2 | I happen to like 2.4 ;) |
| 19:15.55 | chouimat | ds2: I had to support an old piece of c++ code ... only worked on freebsd 2.1/2.2 ... |
| 19:16.52 | silverpower | ds2, 2.4 is indeed nice - until you want to put moblock on your router, then you'll want to throw things. |
| 19:17.25 | chouimat | moblock? |
| 19:19.39 | silverpower | chouimat, PG2 lists for Linux. |
| 19:19.48 | silverpower | (peerguardian2) |
| 19:19.50 | chouimat | k |
| 19:19.57 | chouimat | found the webpage |
| 19:21.30 | silverpower | It relies on some 2.6 functionality. Meanwhile, bcm43xx is, uh, quite flaky, so you're stuck with 2.4 on a WRT54G-type router. (I have a V4 running hyperwrt+thibor atm.) |
| 19:22.49 | silverpower | I have no other hardware for AP usage, so I can't just do without the damn blob. |
| 19:23.24 | chouimat | silverpower: I was installing openwrt when I bricked mine ... they didn't mention that they didn't enable bootwait in that release ... those assh.... |
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| 19:23.42 | silverpower | ...owie. |
| 19:23.57 | ds2 | do you need jtag or just console to recover? |
| 19:24.29 | silverpower | If the bootwait stub was working, chouimat could just try tftping in new firmware. |
| 19:24.44 | silverpower | But it's not, so that has to be loaded via JTAG. |
| 19:24.52 | ds2 | oh |
| 19:25.19 | chouimat | I need to solder the jtag connector ... |
| 19:25.45 | ds2 | got a dead wrt54 (rev1/rev0) that I revived... any other gotchas before I reflash? =) |
| 19:26.23 | silverpower | bootwait getting trashed is the only one I can think of. |
| 19:26.47 | ds2 | not sure if there are even pads for JTAG on rev0/rev1's |
| 19:26.51 | chouimat | ds2: I have a 1.1 ... and I use it as a switch .... it dead, I think I shorted the flash (and removed by error a resistor) when I tried to get it back alive |
| 19:27.16 | ds2 | chouimat: couldn't you yank the MiniPCI? |
| 19:27.23 | ds2 | and use it elsewhere |
| 19:27.31 | chouimat | everything on board |
| 19:27.41 | ds2 | ack |
| 19:27.53 | silverpower | Yeah, minipci is a v1-ism. |
| 19:28.30 | ds2 | that reminds me... any uses for a prism miniPCI card? |
| 19:28.32 | silverpower | (Being a piece of crap is a >=v5-ism.) |
| 19:28.41 | ds2 | haha |
| 19:28.45 | chouimat | silverpower: it's why I got the wrtsl54gs :) |
| 19:29.24 | silverpower | chouimat, I got my v4 on closeout - there were a bunch of v5s and one lonely v4, and I happened to guess right. |
| 19:29.47 | ds2 | is there a quick, short page, on id'ing versions that I can stick on my palm? |
| 19:30.07 | silverpower | Not sure. |
| 19:30.53 | silverpower | Retail-wise, you will never find a v4. Period. I got lucky and this was almost two years ago. |
| 19:30.58 | silverpower | In the field, though, that might be handy... |
| 19:31.04 | chouimat | maybe here http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware |
| 19:31.07 | ds2 | it is for checking things at swapmeets |
| 19:32.11 | ds2 | that's just a list, I want the list of things to look for to id the version |
| 19:32.49 | silverpower | Since we're talking swapmeets, I doubt you can count on the serial number still being present. |
| 19:33.04 | silverpower | That's how I IDed mine when I got it home. |
| 19:33.11 | ds2 | yep, hence to need to look for physical attributes |
| 19:33.24 | ds2 | but in case it is, is there a S/N decoder table? |
| 19:33.33 | silverpower | There should be. |
| 19:34.22 | chouimat | http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54G?highlight=%28CategoryModel%29 |
| 19:34.59 | silverpower | http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54G <-- I suggest ripping that table. |
| 19:35.24 | ds2 | a cool |
| 19:35.48 | ds2 | i will pluckerize it tonight |
| 19:36.45 | silverpower | Also, there's pictoral ID guides - find the pics, perhaps? The Linksys logo changed on the V5 (but it changed a few times before then, be careful!). |
| 19:37.09 | chouimat | wow V8 |
| 19:37.15 | ds2 | i really wish it wasn't stored in the wiki |
| 19:37.33 | ds2 | or if they could fix the wiki to make it load better on mobile devices |
| 19:37.44 | chouimat | ds2: if you can get it get this one http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRTSL54GS |
| 19:37.46 | silverpower | That gives me an idea, incidentally. |
| 19:38.58 | silverpower | (field-ID guides for various desirable HW in ebook format, namely.) |
| 19:39.14 | ds2 | what ebook format? |
| 19:39.34 | silverpower | I dunno, what would give the broadest coverage for PDA use? |
| 19:39.51 | chouimat | silverpower: plucker or zTXT :) |
| 19:39.53 | ds2 | PalmDOC ;) |
| 19:40.26 | ds2 | Plucker would be fine compromise for those condemned to use a braindead PDA |
| 19:41.03 | chouimat | ds2: be polite I still find my m125 usefull |
| 19:41.05 | silverpower | keep in mind that I don't actually own any such device, but I may try my hand at a WRTnnn and console field-guide. :) |
| 19:41.22 | ds2 | chouimat: I wasn't refering to those as the brain dead ones! |
| 19:41.36 | chouimat | wimce |
| 19:41.38 | ds2 | it is the ones that pretend to be a PDA and have a flag of sorts on the screen |
| 19:41.57 | silverpower | ah, wince PDAs. |
| 19:42.30 | silverpower | (Which aren't *bad* PDAs, but you have to load Linux on them to make them at all useful. :D) |
| 19:42.35 | ds2 | chouimat: besides, I did say PalmDOC first =) |
| 19:43.39 | chouimat | silverpower: I kind of like the 3.1.2. TTL-232R-3V3-AJ USB console on the wrtsl54gs page |
| 19:45.26 | SpaceMonkey | I am sofa Kind wee todd edd |
| 19:45.45 | SpaceMonkey | I meant "I am Sofa King Wee Todd Edd" |
| 19:46.18 | silverpower | Are images acceptable in Plucker (assuming they can even be used)? |
| 19:46.35 | silverpower | Or should I limit myself to text? |
| 19:46.58 | chouimat | silverpower: you can use image iirc ... some desktop reader doesn't support table and css iirc |
| 19:49.23 | silverpower | I think I'm going to make Plucker my target format, unless you've got a compelling case for PalmDOC (I'd really prefer to make it readable by the widest array of PDAs, even unfixed wince models). |
| 19:58.27 | steliosk | chuimat : send the wrt over to debric it |
| 19:58.49 | steliosk | short trip canda->greece and back :) |
| 20:02.15 | chouimat | steliosk: I have a friend who will do it ... just waiting after his divorce is finalised ... don't want his ex wife to leave with it ;) |
| 20:02.34 | steliosk | :) |
| 20:03.00 | steliosk | it will be handy to test the OE build wrt images ;) |
| 20:04.56 | chouimat | steliosk: it's my plan because people in #openwrt are jerks |
| 20:09.31 | silverpower | chouimat, how do they compare to, say, #debian? |
| 20:10.07 | chouimat | silverpower: : you ask question there about something you obviously don't know and the only reply you get is something like: if you don't know this you shouldn't be a software developer and go back to use microsoft office instead |
| 20:10.34 | chouimat | silverpower: and this come from the heads of the project |
| 20:10.48 | silverpower | Oh. Yeesh. |
| 20:10.54 | CosmicPenguin | Thats pretty much how we feel in here too |
| 20:11.30 | silverpower | CosmicPenguin, I dunno, it's not as blatant. |
| 20:11.45 | CosmicPenguin | is subtle abuse better? :) |
| 20:12.49 | silverpower | Kindasortamaybe... |
| 20:13.07 | CosmicPenguin | This room is way nicer then elinux ws |
| 20:13.24 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: only if you're not sophisticated enough |
| 20:15.44 | silverpower | Incidentally, who here has one of the DHT-Walnut boards? Mine are still sitting in the wrappers waiting for me to do *something* with them. |
| 20:15.44 | chouimat | not me |
| 20:16.18 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: at least "flyback/fishhead/or whatever is name is " is not around :) |
| 20:16.36 | silverpower | I remember when he was. :shudder: What a cretin. |
| 20:16.38 | CosmicPenguin | he'll be here - he's like a bad penny |
| 20:17.08 | chouimat | silverpower: I still have to understand what he has against me and my country :) |
| 20:17.19 | CosmicPenguin | well - you we understand |
| 20:17.23 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 20:17.39 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ha ha ha ... see the therapy worked ;) |
| 20:18.13 | silverpower | chouimat, I imagine all that butane huffing took its toll. |
| 20:18.57 | chouimat | silverpower: I will use maryj instead of the butane ... less damage in the long run :) |
| 20:19.27 | silverpower | chouimat, well, yeah, but apparently flyback wasn't aware of this. |
| 20:20.01 | silverpower | Now he's too nuts to care. |
| 20:20.11 | chouimat | hehe |
| 20:22.42 | chouimat | hmmm 26C outside ... maybe I will go get a few beers on a patio |
| 20:24.47 | silverpower | Anyway, getting the Walnut boards going shouldn't be *too* hard - I simply have to build up one of my ancient P5-MMX workstations so I can make use of the serial console and get it ready to Do Stuff. |
| 20:25.22 | chouimat | silverpower: I have 2 of those as test machine ... |
| 20:25.30 | chouimat | p200mmx |
| 20:26.59 | silverpower | chouimat, mine's a P233MMX - 64MB of memory and a very motley collection of hardware. |
| 20:27.21 | chouimat | silverpower: one is currently replacing my bricked wrt |
| 20:29.47 | silverpower | Yeah, they're handy for that. It's also a great way (for me) to make use of all those 3Com ISA cards I have. I have piles and piles of them, so... |
| 20:30.20 | chouimat | hehe |
| 20:33.32 | silverpower | I wonder how it'll do as an impromptu second NAS - I have some Fujitsu SCSI drives (and a controller) I need to make use of. |
| 20:34.14 | chouimat | silverpower: with samba ... it will do great |
| 20:45.47 | ds2 | anyone looking at the AVR32 stuff? |
| 20:52.45 | silverpower | Yeesh. So far I've got two 3Com ISA NICs, a Crystal ISA sound card, a Tulip 10/100 NIC, a random Trident GPU, and an Adaptec SCSI card. I haven't even started wiring this thing up and already it looks ridiculous and cramped. |
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| 21:48.10 | MonMotha | ds2: if I need 32 bit, I tend to just chuck an ARM7TDMI at it |
| 21:50.29 | ds2 | MonMotha: I was thinking more of the $70 AVR32 EVB they are selling... seems about right for use as is |
| 21:51.46 | MonMotha | hum, you can get ARM EV boards for that kind of price |
| 21:51.57 | MonMotha | does GCC target AVR32? I presume it does... |
| 21:53.38 | ds2 | yep |
| 21:53.47 | ds2 | an ARM EV board w/MMU? |
| 21:54.44 | MonMotha | I thought I'd seen some ARM9s w/ MMU in that range |
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| 22:02.25 | ds2 | Hmmmm maybe those EVBs aren't that attractive |
| 22:02.53 | ds2 | if they come with OTG or USB host, that'd be great |
| 22:26.45 | MonMotha | ds2: yeah, at that price I don't know that you'll find one with an MCU that has both MMU and USB OTG/Host |
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