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| 01:22.24 | flyback | muhhhahaa |
| 01:22.50 | flyback | so for temp jobs I don't have to waste a max232 |
| 01:22.58 | flyback | although I am ordering 2 boards from futurelec anyways |
| 01:23.07 | flyback | $5 for +5 and $5 for +3.3 to rs232 boards |
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| 13:11.54 | Crofton | http://www.spectrumdigital.com/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=173&osCsid=b44e33d36b0d5a9b3b2f0d7890bd36f5 |
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| 13:12.03 | Crofton | prpplague, when going from 14 to 20 pin JTAG |
| 13:12.18 | Crofton | does 20 pin JTAP imply 1.8 volts? |
| 13:12.29 | ekiller200 | I think with TI is does |
| 13:13.18 | Crofton | prpplague, is the local JTAG evangelist |
| 13:17.11 | prpplague | Crofton: no it does not imply 1.8 volts |
| 13:17.44 | prpplague | Crofton: the 20 pin is basically an extension of the 14 with a couple additional jtag signals along with more grounding for the cable |
| 13:19.56 | Crofton | so the need for level shifters is target hw dependent? |
| 13:22.02 | prpplague | Crofton: yep, if your jtag dongle was designed properly for different targets it should contain level shifters for several different levels |
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| 13:22.27 | Crofton | the olimex one says 2-5 I think |
| 13:22.31 | prpplague | Crofton: most on the market right now are just 3.3v supported, the next midrange ones are 3.3v and 5v, |
| 13:22.34 | prpplague | Crofton: yea |
| 13:22.43 | Crofton | so it would need level shifter for 1.8 |
| 13:22.51 | prpplague | Crofton: yep |
| 13:23.10 | prpplague | Crofton: my fault, didn't know your target was 1.8v when i sugested the olimex one |
| 13:23.31 | Crofton | thats fine |
| 13:23.35 | ekiller200 | prpplague: do you know what the EMU0 and EMU1 lines would be for? |
| 13:23.39 | Crofton | I didn't either |
| 13:23.55 | Crofton | the olimex one is useful for the OSK |
| 13:23.58 | Crofton | and cheap |
| 13:24.50 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:25.56 | prpplague | ekiller200: http://www.roinos.com/emu/signum/DaVinci_jtag_adapter.pdf |
| 13:25.56 | ekiller200 | all the JTAG lines are unidirectional.. I have no problem setting up a simple circuit to do this translation.. but the datasheet for the davinci EMU0 and EMU1 are bi-directional. making it a bit harder if they really need to be bi-directional |
| 13:28.52 | Crofton | May I use bad langauge? |
| 13:29.40 | Crofton | http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,120802.shtml |
| 13:30.39 | prpplague | doh doh doh |
| 13:30.51 | prpplague | bummer |
| 13:31.08 | Crofton | i hope someone ends up in prison |
| 13:31.23 | prpplague | me too |
| 13:31.36 | prpplague | i wonder how long it will be before it drops back below $1 |
| 13:31.44 | Crofton | pretty soon |
| 13:31.55 | Crofton | now they are not motivated to churn the price up |
| 13:35.28 | prpplague | yea |
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| 14:10.20 | chouimat | wow "A leading provider ..." /me is laughing |
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| 14:57.51 | SpaceMonkey | "Mork and Mindy" what a great show. |
| 15:04.55 | ekiller200 | is getting ndiswrapper on an ARM possible, or is that a silly question |
| 15:05.46 | ekiller200 | I tried to compile ndiswrapper with my toolchain and it coughed up some problems with some assembly code in ndis |
| 15:06.18 | CosmicPenguin | ummm..... |
| 15:06.19 | CosmicPenguin | kay |
| 15:06.29 | CosmicPenguin | you do know what ndiswrapper is, right? |
| 15:06.49 | ekiller200 | yeah.. of course |
| 15:07.00 | SpaceMonkey | ekiller200: buuuuuuuuuuuuurned |
| 15:07.05 | SpaceMonkey | ;) |
| 15:07.23 | CosmicPenguin | So what ever made you think that it would work on an ARM processor? |
| 15:07.29 | SpaceMonkey | ekiller200: are you trying for a wifi driver? |
| 15:07.59 | ekiller200 | yeah. customer wants a stupid broadcom wifi adapter to work |
| 15:08.19 | chouimat | cool just got a phone call from phoenix about my electricty bill |
| 15:08.30 | SpaceMonkey | ekiller200: darn, thats going to be a royal pain in the butt if there arnt any OS drivers for it |
| 15:09.15 | chouimat | ekiller200: which broadcom? |
| 15:09.28 | ekiller200 | BCM4318 |
| 15:12.19 | CosmicPenguin | So why can't you use bcm43xx? |
| 15:12.54 | Crofton | ekiller200, silly question |
| 15:13.05 | Crofton | it will load code designed for x86 |
| 15:13.16 | ekiller200 | CosmicPenguin: i'll try that, thanks |
| 15:13.20 | CosmicPenguin | not just designed for - written for |
| 15:13.45 | chouimat | ekiller200: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices |
| 15:13.47 | ekiller200 | yeah.. sorry wasn't really thinking how it worked |
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| 18:36.53 | prpplague | lordy lordy lordy |
| 18:36.55 | prpplague | i'm tired |
| 18:39.47 | ds2 | ? |
| 18:41.30 | prpplague | ds2: getting the house ready for the wife and kids to arrive next week, plus i have like 10 projects for work that i'm behind on |
| 18:42.01 | ds2 | ah |
| 18:42.26 | Crofton|home | hmm, need to clean out the beer cans |
| 18:42.33 | chouimat | prpplague: get a few clones of yourself ;) |
| 18:42.37 | Crofton|home | strippers under garments |
| 18:42.55 | ds2 | does the beer can clean out involve a bobcat or a full catapillar? ;) |
| 18:43.04 | prpplague | Crofton|home: ewww, cans? never |
| 18:43.14 | chouimat | prpplague: kegs? |
| 18:43.21 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:43.25 | prpplague | only bottles |
| 18:43.25 | ds2 | maybe it is time to do a quick hack on a roomba =) |
| 18:45.14 | prpplague | ds2: not so much cleaning involved, mostly just getting things taken out of boxes and making sure everything is ready |
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| 18:58.30 | prpplague | i can not figured out why the senate and bush can't understand that the vast major of the american people don't want this immigration bill |
| 19:06.23 | wmat | prpplague: when's the last time you think bush cared what the american people wanted? or any politician, for that matter? |
| 19:11.39 | chouimat | prpplague: what is new in this bill? |
| 19:26.23 | Crofton|home | all Canadians can move to US |
| 19:27.07 | chouimat | Crofton|home: why we will want to move in your police state? |
| 19:27.29 | Crofton|home | For the strong dollar? |
| 19:27.49 | chouimat | Crofton|home: for that we will stay here |
| 19:27.55 | Crofton|home | :) |
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| 19:33.13 | prpplague | chouimat: basically to give amnesty to people who are illegally present in the US |
| 19:33.22 | prpplague | g1powermac: ping |
| 19:33.28 | Crofton|home | rather than shooting them |
| 19:33.38 | Crofton|home | or conducting large scale round ups |
| 19:34.14 | chouimat | prpplague: I have no problem with the amnesty ... /me ducks |
| 19:34.20 | Crofton|home | secretly, I am a fan of round ups |
| 19:34.25 | Crofton|home | and mass deportations |
| 19:34.34 | Crofton|home | practically though ... |
| 19:34.50 | prpplague | chouimat: are you serious? |
| 19:35.05 | chouimat | prpplague: more or less ... |
| 19:35.13 | Crofton|home | prpplague, no one has any sensible alternatives |
| 19:35.23 | prpplague | chouimat: so do bank robbers and murders deserve amnesty too? |
| 19:35.39 | chouimat | prpplague: no |
| 19:35.53 | prpplague | Crofton|home: sensible would be one illegal at a time, every time they get pulled over for speeding or other crimes, deport t hem |
| 19:36.05 | prpplague | chouimat: then why for immigration law breakers? |
| 19:36.06 | Crofton|home | there was no unofficial government program to promote bank robbery and murder |
| 19:36.38 | Crofton|home | prpplague, somehow the process of immigration must be restored |
| 19:36.52 | Crofton|home | tolerating the status quo is not good |
| 19:36.56 | prpplague | Crofton|home: yea, but i don't see it happening |
| 19:37.10 | prpplague | Crofton|home: too much politics involved, and not enough common sense |
| 19:37.21 | Crofton|home | thats why I like the ida of conducting serious round ups |
| 19:37.24 | Crofton|home | say in Dallas |
| 19:37.30 | prpplague | Crofton|home: hehe yea |
| 19:37.35 | Crofton|home | or some place with a lot of illlegals |
| 19:37.49 | chouimat | prpplague: because like you said it's a mess and it will be impossible to fix so the choice are a) keep the mess and piss off everybody b) amnesty or c) completely seal your border and let nobody in or out ... |
| 19:37.50 | Crofton|home | just so people gain an understanding of the situation |
| 19:38.20 | ds2 | seal the borders |
| 19:38.29 | prpplague | Crofton|home: i told someone that back in the 1940's the US rounded up 120,000 japenese-americans in just 3 weeks, no reason they couldn't do that now once a month or even once every three months |
| 19:38.41 | Crofton|home | good point |
| 19:38.42 | prpplague | chouimat: uh no |
| 19:38.51 | chouimat | ds2: but nobody leave or enter :) if you can live with this :) |
| 19:39.11 | prpplague | chouimat: you left our deporting them |
| 19:40.25 | prpplague | chouimat: i don't like the fact that someone who has intentionally broke the law will be rewarded with immediate legal status, when there are so many couples who are trying to do the right thing are push back for years |
| 19:41.02 | prpplague | chouimat: during the amnesty, there will be no medical exam, no financial responsibility checks, no criminal background checks |
| 19:41.12 | prpplague | thats just wrong |
| 19:42.03 | chouimat | prpplague: personnaly I will give them the amnisty after the checks and IF they contributed back to the community while they were illegals :) |
| 19:42.08 | prpplague | chouimat: i don't believe citizenship is a proper reqrd for breaking the law |
| 19:42.43 | chouimat | prpplague: who talked about citizenship? not me |
| 19:43.35 | prpplague | chouimat: thats the whole point, with this new bill the illegals will be allowed to have citizenship, no checks of ANY kind will be done, AND they will be entitled to Social Security with contribing a SINGLE dollar |
| 19:43.49 | prpplague | w/with/without |
| 19:43.59 | ds2 | one can of worms at a time please... |
| 19:44.02 | chouimat | prpplague: i see |
| 19:44.42 | prpplague | chouimat: i'm not against a procedure for them becoming legally present in the US, but NEVER be allowed citizenship |
| 19:45.37 | prpplague | chouimat: and anyone who has been convicted of felony, drunk driving, or drug charges is automatically disqualified |
| 19:45.38 | chouimat | prpplague: what I meant is: they are here now some of them do valuable stuff for you so let them stay if they are not doing illegale stuff |
| 19:46.30 | wmat | prpplague: that sounds like Canada's system a bit |
| 19:47.13 | wmat | prpplague: although here, you can collect welfare cheques before you're a legal resident |
| 19:48.02 | prpplague | wmat: yea, currently there is no limitation for you to collect welfare if you are illegal in the US |
| 19:48.09 | chouimat | wmat: it help to keep some of them out of criminal activities :) |
| 19:49.50 | wmat | chouimat: i'm not so sure about that, a criminal is a criminal regardless |
| 19:50.27 | chouimat | wmat: true, but at least they have a minimul to live with |
| 19:53.09 | prpplague | chouimat: my tax dollars are intended to help americans, not illegals |
| 19:54.32 | chouimat | prpplague: I stopped to care how they use my taxe dollars a long time ago ... probably when I stopped believe in the concept of "honest politicians and gov employees" :) |
| 19:59.24 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, well, the tax rate in the US has gotten so high that if you own an property you have to be concerned with it |
| 19:59.54 | chouimat | prpplague: you probably still pay less than here |
| 20:00.17 | prpplague | chouimat: i guess what pisses me off the most is that i've spent almost 4 years trying t get my here legally, and someone who broke the law is going to get a freeride |
| 20:00.51 | prpplague | anyone know atmel avr's very well? |
| 20:01.00 | chouimat | prpplague: that I can understand ... maybe it's time you elect people who want to do a deep reform of some of your laws :) |
| 20:01.16 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, like thats going to happen |
| 20:01.24 | chouimat | prpplague: the avr8 or avr32? |
| 20:01.29 | prpplague | avr8 |
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| 20:34.23 | Crofton|home | http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/131-us-states-renamed-for-countries-with-similar-gdps/ |
| 20:36.31 | prpplague | Crofton|home: hehe - pakistan == arkansas |
| 20:36.45 | Crofton|home | Canada = Texas :) |
| 20:37.10 | prpplague | Crofton|home: hehe yea, texas produces as much as the entire country of canada |
| 20:37.11 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:50.26 | prpplague | anyone every been through the st.louis airport? |
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| 20:53.19 | Crofton|home | once, but I don't remember much about it |
| 20:55.05 | prpplague | Crofton|home: there are some cheaper tickets if we go through st.louis, but its not an airport i'm familiar with |
| 20:55.21 | Crofton|home | me neitehr |
| 20:55.28 | prpplague | Crofton|home: i don't guess i have to worry about snow, just didn't know there were any other issues with that airport |
| 20:55.42 | Crofton|home | I had to go there a couple of times like ten years ago for work |
| 20:55.52 | prpplague | Crofton|home: don't think i'll be able to relax untill the wife and kids are home |
| 20:56.15 | prpplague | Crofton|home: nothing jumped out at you as a problem with the airport? |
| 20:56.24 | Crofton|home | obviously not :) |
| 20:56.29 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:56.31 | Crofton|home | however this info is dated |
| 20:56.42 | prpplague | hehe np |
| 20:58.34 | ds2 | Hmmm |
| 20:59.32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its a boring airport |
| 20:59.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, you been there? |
| 20:59.45 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 20:59.49 | CosmicPenguin | drank a few beers |
| 20:59.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: should i be worried about going through there? |
| 21:00.04 | CosmicPenguin | nah |
| 21:00.08 | CosmicPenguin | thats basically what its for |
| 21:00.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, well there are some airports that i avoid |
| 21:00.43 | CosmicPenguin | its not a must see airport |
| 21:00.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: most of the yankee ones, hehe |
| 21:00.45 | CosmicPenguin | but its not bad |
| 21:01.02 | CosmicPenguin | See - most of us westerners came along after the war |
| 21:01.09 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:01.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: funny thing is, this ticket adds like 1200 miles to the trip, but the ticket is 1/2 price |
| 21:01.59 | prpplague | doesn't make much sense, but then again airfares never have made sense to me |
| 21:03.13 | CosmicPenguin | What airline? |
| 21:04.30 | prpplague | american |
| 21:04.45 | CosmicPenguin | huh - that was unexpected |
| 21:06.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: why? |
| 21:06.28 | CosmicPenguin | because you would expect that the prices in and out of dallas directly would be cheaper |
| 21:06.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you'd think that |
| 21:07.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but the prices to go from dallas to either coast are pretty expensive |
| 21:07.32 | CosmicPenguin | must be because of demand |
| 21:07.44 | CosmicPenguin | everybody is trying to get out of Texas |
| 21:07.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its cheaper to go from nyc to london than it is to go from dallas to nyc |
| 21:07.45 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 21:08.05 | prpplague | more room for the people who want to be here :P |
| 21:34.53 | prpplague | jeeze - http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/12/america/NA-GEN-US-Immigration-Raid.php |
| 21:35.08 | prpplague | only 48 people out of 600 had valid SS#'s |
| 21:50.48 | ds2 | I know a reasonable compromise... |
| 21:51.00 | prpplague | ds2: do tell |
| 21:51.10 | ds2 | give illegals the opportunity to instantly get their citizenship... all they have to do is... |
| 21:51.36 | ds2 | serve a 6 year stint in any branch of the armed services and end with an honorable discharge |
| 21:51.44 | ds2 | that should be fair |
| 21:52.10 | prpplague | ds2: duh, thats already the case, and its just 4 years |
| 21:52.16 | ds2 | for illegals? |
| 21:52.23 | prpplague | ds2: for anyone |
| 21:52.27 | ds2 | thought it was limited to legals |
| 21:52.29 | ds2 | oh |
| 21:52.33 | prpplague | ds2: nope |
| 21:52.36 | ds2 | oops |
| 21:52.52 | ds2 | so there is a way around... people need to stop bitching and start enlisting! |
| 21:53.29 | prpplague | ds2: yea well, not everyone believes in putting their life on the line |
| 21:54.32 | ds2 | if they don't want to risk it, they deserve to wait |
| 21:56.43 | prpplague | ds2: yea, i agree however.... part of the problem right now is that it is too difficult to become legal, thats why many people decide to become illegal |
| 21:57.06 | prpplague | ds2: not everyone can afford tens of thousands of dollars and wait 3 years |
| 21:57.34 | ds2 | prpplague: enlisting is not difficult... esp if you at the sob films they show of the border crossing. when you enlist, you get paid, you get regular meals, you get cloths... |
| 21:57.59 | prpplague | ds2: yes, i know, i'm a veteran |
| 21:58.13 | prpplague | ds2: but like i said, its not for everyone |
| 21:58.45 | ds2 | i say too bad |
| 21:58.46 | chouimat | ewww army ... |
| 21:58.49 | prpplague | ds2: i'd bet less than 5% of the people in this channel would be willing to serve |
| 21:58.59 | prpplague | and chouimat makes my point |
| 21:59.15 | jbevren | so |
| 21:59.18 | jbevren | if you guys ever get curious |
| 21:59.28 | jbevren | the nyko itype2 keyboard is a standard usb kbd |
| 21:59.28 | chouimat | prpplague: I will probably get kick out in the first month or so ... |
| 21:59.42 | jbevren | and the ps2->ps3 usb adapter is also a standard usb joystick heh |
| 21:59.50 | prpplague | chouimat: "will" or "would" ? |
| 21:59.51 | ds2 | then they need stop with the sob videos and other complaints |
| 21:59.54 | jbevren | so for ~$20, I have a gamecontroller keyboard ;) |
| 22:00.03 | prpplague | jbevren: url? |
| 22:00.04 | chouimat | prpplague: bah ... |
| 22:00.11 | jbevren | for the stick? (looking) |
| 22:00.35 | prpplague | jbevren: nyko itype2 |
| 22:00.38 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:00.42 | jbevren | http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=13 |
| 22:00.45 | prpplague | jbevren: is this for a pc or something? |
| 22:00.47 | jbevren | the kbd portion is usb |
| 22:00.48 | jbevren | no |
| 22:00.52 | jbevren | its a playstation2 controller :) |
| 22:00.58 | prpplague | ahh |
| 22:01.00 | jbevren | the joystick portion is ps2, |
| 22:01.11 | jbevren | but I use a pelican ps2->usb adapter (its for playstaion3, but works fine) |
| 22:01.32 | jbevren | http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=802566 |
| 22:01.33 | ds2 | nice |
| 22:01.35 | prpplague | interesting |
| 22:01.37 | ds2 | does the keyboard seperate? |
| 22:01.41 | jbevren | no :( |
| 22:01.46 | jbevren | but I dont mind |
| 22:01.55 | ds2 | is the circuit board bigger then the keyboard area? |
| 22:01.56 | prpplague | wonder what usb matrix chip they are using |
| 22:02.06 | ds2 | i.e. can I route out the plastics and throwaway the joystick? |
| 22:02.17 | jbevren | ds2: I havent opened the device |
| 22:02.20 | jbevren | its probably one pcb |
| 22:02.31 | jbevren | although the joystick and usb lines are in separate cables (glued together) |
| 22:02.36 | ds2 | hmmmm |
| 22:02.43 | ds2 | jbevren: does it have an embedded hub? |
| 22:02.43 | jbevren | I got mine for $8 at gamestop |
| 22:02.48 | jbevren | no lol |
| 22:02.52 | jbevren | that would be very cool though |
| 22:03.06 | jbevren | I could probably stuff a 4port hub chip in it |
| 22:03.14 | ds2 | no no, that's not what I mean |
| 22:03.16 | jbevren | set up 3 downstream ports |
| 22:03.20 | jbevren | what do you mean |
| 22:03.42 | jbevren | the kbd is pretty limited (no ctrl key etc) |
| 22:03.45 | ds2 | does it appear as: JOYSTICK, KEYBOARD, HUB when it is enumerated or is it one multifunctional device (KB + JOYSTICK)? |
| 22:03.54 | jbevren | Oh |
| 22:03.58 | jbevren | it has two plugs |
| 22:04.01 | jbevren | one usb, which is just a keyboard |
| 22:04.04 | ds2 | oh 2 cables |
| 22:04.05 | jbevren | and one playstation controller plug |
| 22:04.16 | jbevren | nod, its a pair of cables laminated together (like most headphone cables) |
| 22:04.17 | prpplague | ds2: http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/T/300x300/TKB150P-unit.jpg |
| 22:04.21 | ds2 | now I want one! |
| 22:04.33 | prpplague | ds2: you can get that and just add a rs-232 to usb chip |
| 22:04.45 | ds2 | prpplague: I got a pile palm keyboards I picked up at clearance sales |
| 22:05.06 | ds2 | prpplague: wanna donate some firmware for a RS-232 to USB KB HID Device converter? =) |
| 22:05.26 | prpplague | ds2: no need, the linux kernel already has rs-232 keyboard driver |
| 22:05.29 | jbevren | ds2: if you use an LPC, there's a demo mouse available on sparkfun's site |
| 22:05.43 | ds2 | prpplague: guess, I am not the only one that constantly scans geeks.com's site for stuff, huh? =) |
| 22:06.01 | prpplague | ds2: yea, i buy alot from them as well as softwareandstuff.com |
| 22:06.05 | ds2 | jbevren: problem is I donno what codes are returned on the palmstuff |
| 22:06.21 | jbevren | prp claims its ascii (I never checked) |
| 22:06.25 | ds2 | prpplague: softwareandstuff.com has declined greatly...they used to be retail for me :/ |
| 22:06.35 | ds2 | nope, it is not ascii or standardized |
| 22:06.40 | prpplague | ds2: yea, just ascii scan codes, takes about 10 minutes to decode |
| 22:07.01 | ds2 | prpplague: each one is different... think I tried starting that once with a terminal software |
| 22:07.30 | ds2 | prpplague: I found a palm rollup rubber keyboard at a swapmeet...that'd be a nice portable miniKB |
| 22:07.32 | prpplague | ds2: yea, each one is, but its just standard ascii transmission, the scan codes vary, but it should take but a few minutes to decode |
| 22:08.03 | ds2 | prpplague: the other issue is there is a power up sequence for some of them |
| 22:08.13 | jbevren | Just set up a serial monitor between the palm and the kbd ;) |
| 22:08.16 | jbevren | any PC with two serial ports will do |
| 22:08.29 | prpplague | ds2: yea, i have a ton of palm keyboards i use |
| 22:09.13 | ds2 | we really should form an organization that buys these stuff at whole sale and redistributes it amount members ;) |
| 22:09.34 | prpplague | ds2: why? |
| 22:11.11 | ds2 | prpplague: work stuff... |
| 22:11.54 | prpplague | <ds2> we really should form an organization that buys these stuff at whole sale and redistributes it amount members ;) |
| 22:11.56 | prpplague | ds2: why? |
| 22:13.34 | ds2 | Oh that |
| 22:13.43 | ds2 | cheaper |
| 22:13.53 | ds2 | softwareandstuff + geeks.com have quite a markup |
| 22:13.53 | prpplague | less than $5 is pretty darn cheap |
| 22:14.18 | ds2 | they are cheap compared to others but a GB can do better sometimes |
| 22:14.18 | prpplague | later |
| 22:14.20 | ds2 | later |
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