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| 13:20.47 | cbrake_away | prpplague: ping |
| 13:23.55 | prpplague | cbrake: pong |
| 13:24.26 | cbrake | prpplague: are the zcomax modules pre-certified? |
| 13:24.45 | cbrake | prpplague: or do you have to go through the full FCC certification $15K or whatever. |
| 13:25.42 | prpplague | cbrake: pre-certified |
| 13:25.55 | prpplague | cbrake: or atleast from what i'm told |
| 13:26.18 | prpplague | cbrake: we generally get a fcc re-cert anyway with our handheld |
| 13:27.48 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:28.14 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings |
| 13:29.30 | cbrake | prpplague: I was under that impression that the radio certification was different than the general device emissions cert. |
| 13:38.37 | prpplague | cbrake: it is, be we generally submit it for both to make sure, since we have to be rock solid on our certs |
| 13:38.59 | prpplague | cbrake: but everything i've seen indicates that the zcomax modules are pre-certed |
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| 13:44.39 | prpplague | wow |
| 13:45.01 | prpplague | someone actually repeating the same statements i've been making about immigration: |
| 13:45.01 | prpplague | http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/12/Dobbs.June13/index.html |
| 14:15.06 | Crofton | Lou DObbs, of course |
| 14:15.13 | Crofton | He is angry about everything |
| 14:16.49 | chouimat | Crofton but it make "good tv" ;) |
| 14:17.04 | Crofton | I like a lot of things about Lou Dobbs |
| 14:21.03 | prpplague | Crofton: agreed, however, in this case, he is dead-on with his assesment of the immigration situation |
| 14:21.29 | prpplague | "Third, the government should fund, equip and hire the people necessary to man the Citizenship and Immigration Services. To do so will ensure that the agency is capable of fully executing and administering lawful immigration into the United States and eliminating the shameful backlog of millions of people who are seeking legal entry into this country." |
| 14:21.35 | Crofton | as you may ahve noticed, I am suffering from split personallity on the issue |
| 14:21.42 | Crofton | heh |
| 14:21.46 | prpplague | Crofton: yea |
| 14:21.47 | Crofton | awesome quote |
| 14:22.21 | prpplague | Crofton: thats what i keep telling people, its not just a single issue, its basically 3 issue in one |
| 14:22.24 | Crofton | mind you, my mother did get her green card renewed promptly without any annoying crap |
| 14:22.30 | Crofton | yep |
| 14:22.31 | chouimat | prpplague: but they don;t want to fund, equip and hire people for that ... |
| 14:23.00 | prpplague | Crofton: protection, enforcement, and efficiency |
| 14:23.33 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, its easier to spend 12 trillion dollars on giving amnesty to illegals |
| 14:24.56 | prpplague | chouimat: money really isn't the problem per se with Department of State and US Customs and Immigration Service |
| 14:25.12 | prpplague | chouimat: its more the fact that there is no accountability for processing standards |
| 14:27.16 | prpplague | chouimat: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/27/AR2007052701118_pf.html |
| 14:32.24 | prpplague | chouimat: USCIS lost our paperwork twice and on one occasion sent our paperwork to the National Storage Center for archival |
| 14:33.20 | chouimat | prpplague: jerks |
| 14:33.44 | Crofton | all in the name of backlog reduction I am sure |
| 14:34.14 | chouimat | all those fees sound like a nice racket :) |
| 14:34.22 | prpplague | yea, like this one - http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/obtainlpr/oblpr087.htm |
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| 14:38.17 | chouimat | prpplague: wow ... that must look good on the stats ;) |
| 14:38.34 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, they suspect its still going on |
| 14:38.57 | prpplague | chouimat: right now, there are about 100k applications reported missed every 3 months |
| 14:39.11 | chouimat | prpplague: some people complaint it's not fast enough here :) |
| 14:40.17 | prpplague | chouimat: yea well 90 days is pretty darn fast |
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| 15:05.48 | prpplague | g1powermac: ping |
| 15:06.13 | g1powermac | hey prpplague |
| 15:06.37 | prpplague | g1powermac: hey, you got atmega experience? |
| 15:06.51 | g1powermac | nope, not really |
| 15:07.35 | prpplague | g1powermac: darn |
| 15:07.41 | g1powermac | there's many in ##microcontrollers who do have experience with avrs though |
| 15:07.51 | prpplague | g1powermac: where is puff when you need him |
| 15:08.03 | prpplague | g1powermac: yea, don't care to visit there anymore |
| 15:08.05 | g1powermac | yea, I know, haven't seen him in months |
| 15:08.13 | g1powermac | oh? why? |
| 15:08.32 | prpplague | g1powermac: some of the people there were rather caustic |
| 15:08.59 | g1powermac | hmmm |
| 15:09.20 | prpplague | and without anyone enforcing rules there, i'd just as soon not go there |
| 15:09.55 | g1powermac | though I'm just not on the channel enough lately |
| 15:10.01 | chouimat | prpplague: sound like the openwrt channel ... |
| 15:11.09 | prpplague | g1powermac: ahh, well, when i left, i didn't see anyone as ops |
| 15:11.46 | g1powermac | prpplague, we generally don't keep ourselves opped on the channel |
| 15:11.54 | prpplague | g1powermac: so did puff ever show up again? |
| 15:12.17 | g1powermac | but there's me and three others who have the access level to op ourselves |
| 15:12.24 | g1powermac | prpplague, nope |
| 15:12.31 | prpplague | g1powermac: lars one of them? |
| 15:12.34 | g1powermac | yup |
| 15:12.41 | g1powermac | and Achiest |
| 15:13.01 | g1powermac | the last one is our resident ircop |
| 15:13.26 | prpplague | ho ho hum, got some atmega research i need to do |
| 15:14.05 | g1powermac | but yea, if I'm around, I don't tolerate any abrasive actions in the channel |
| 15:14.21 | g1powermac | but thats really only maybe 6 or 7 hours a day lately |
| 15:14.34 | g1powermac | the rest of the time I'm away from my keyboard or sleeping :-) |
| 15:15.44 | g1powermac | which reminds me, time to assemble my new office chair. . . |
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| 16:07.13 | steliosk | prpplague : What you are looking for avr's ? |
| 16:23.14 | prpplague | steliosk: atmega103 code move to a atmega128 |
| 16:23.40 | prpplague | steliosk: the atmega128 has a 103 compat mode, but i want to use the standard atmega128 config |
| 16:24.48 | steliosk | It's usually straight-forward port, unless you are using something specific to mega103 |
| 16:25.05 | steliosk | but there were not so many "specific" stuff |
| 16:25.41 | prpplague | steliosk: yea, thats what i was thinking |
| 16:25.44 | steliosk | is it assembly or c ? |
| 16:27.38 | prpplague | c |
| 16:27.53 | prpplague | steliosk: complies properly with avr-gcc |
| 16:29.18 | steliosk | just check the timers mainly and for anything that is defined to use the ports direct and not through the c defines |
| 16:30.09 | prpplague | okie dokie thanks |
| 16:30.29 | steliosk | and be *very* careful when programming the mega128 fuses, you can spend hours looking for program bugs but its the fcking fuse |
| 16:30.47 | prpplague | steliosk: yea, btdt |
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| 17:33.55 | ds2 | someone say something about AVRs? |
| 18:53.22 | prpplague | ds2: yea |
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| 19:11.41 | ds2 | prpplague: what about the AVRs? |
| 19:12.07 | prpplague | <prpplague> steliosk: atmega103 code move to a atmega128 |
| 19:12.07 | prpplague | <prpplague> steliosk: the atmega128 has a 103 compat mode, but i want to use the standard atmega128 config |
| 19:13.39 | ds2 | doesn't look too hard |
| 19:15.21 | prpplague | already done |
| 19:15.29 | ds2 | was it fun? =) |
| 19:15.56 | ds2 | i like the really low pincount AVRs |
| 19:18.22 | ds2 | oh, anyone messed with the Roomba (sp?) bots? |
| 19:22.56 | prpplague | wmat: btw, ol' timbird needs to add a nice "what is CELF" page to the wiki |
| 19:26.38 | wmat | prpplague: i've been thinking about that lately as well, we need a better About page and an explanation of the CELF relationship |
| 19:28.34 | prpplague | wmat: yea |
| 19:29.02 | wmat | prpplague: it's on my list ;) |
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| 19:30.12 | wmat | foxfire: hey |
| 19:30.22 | foxfire | hey |
| 19:30.51 | prpplague | wmat: okie dokie |
| 19:31.07 | foxfire | lol |
| 19:31.12 | prpplague | wmat: well the boss approved sending CELF one of the boards |
| 19:31.22 | foxfire | anyone have any new info on the wrt54gs v7 and dd-wrt support? |
| 19:31.40 | prpplague | foxfire: probably more in the openwrt channels |
| 19:31.52 | foxfire | oh, like the dd-wrt chan |
| 19:32.09 | wmat | sorry, i directed foxfire here |
| 19:32.10 | foxfire | lol, i'm just clickin #'s |
| 19:32.52 | wmat | foxfire: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices |
| 19:33.14 | foxfire | yeah, i've been there, i was hoping maybe the page just hadn't been updated |
| 19:36.33 | prpplague | smokes2345: i don't believe we have too many wrt hackers here |
| 19:37.47 | smokes2345 | so what kind of devices are commonly discussed here? |
| 19:38.20 | prpplague | smokes2345: we tend hack cheap toys and gadgets |
| 19:38.47 | smokes2345 | lol, sounds like fun |
| 19:39.07 | smokes2345 | control any robot vacuums with wiimotes lately? |
| 19:39.53 | wmat | prpplague: am I getting that CELF-intended board, or are you sending to Tim B.? |
| 19:42.39 | prpplague | wmat: my intention was to send it to you |
| 19:42.47 | prpplague | wmat: assuming you will be representing celf |
| 19:44.34 | wmat | prpplague: i'm not sure i'm the best guy for that |
| 19:44.50 | prpplague | wmat: hehe |
| 19:44.50 | prpplague | wmat: i figured as much |
| 19:44.55 | wmat | prpplague: ahhhh |
| 19:44.58 | prpplague | wmat: never the less, one will be sent to celf |
| 19:45.07 | prpplague | wmat: but you are still on the beta tester list |
| 19:45.12 | wmat | prpplague: cheers :) |
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| 20:05.52 | prpplague | ds2: i really don't need a atmega128 per se, its just thats what we stock |
| 20:06.10 | prpplague | ds2: any of the other atmega chips have two uarts besides the 64? |
| 20:06.31 | prpplague | ds2: i'd really like to use the atmega48, but it only has one uart |
| 20:17.56 | MonMotha | prpplague: people have been known to bit-bang UARTs in software |
| 20:18.02 | MonMotha | works OK at lower bitrates |
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| 20:18.42 | MonMotha | also, I think the 162 has dual USART |
| 20:20.14 | prpplague | MonMotha: ok thanks i'll have a look |
| 20:20.15 | MonMotha | 162, 164P, and 324P are the smaller AVRs with dual USART. The 162 is the smallest of those |
| 20:20.44 | MonMotha | 164/324/644 are all drop-in compatible with each other, just vary the amount of flash/RAM |
| 20:28.35 | ds2 | pprplague: not sure; I prefer the really low pincount AVRs so... but there is always a bitbang uart =) |
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| 21:40.18 | Crofton | crap |
| 21:40.28 | Crofton | scox shut up right at the close |
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| 23:43.18 | MonMotha | ds2: the 162 isn't too big, only 44 pins in QFP |