| 00:00.00 | ds2 | Exiles, still there? |
| 00:03.02 | joe_bleau | Is anyone even working on the TVnow? |
| 00:04.49 | ds2 | if I could find the jtag pads... |
| 00:05.10 | joe_bleau | About how much $ are they going for? |
| 00:11.52 | ds2 | $25-$50 if you can find it |
| 00:18.15 | joe_bleau | I'd like to find two, that way I could sweep off the chips and 'ohm-out' the board to locate the JTAG lines. |
| 00:19.14 | ds2 | http://www.amazon.com/TV-Now-Portable-Video-Recorder/dp/B000M6CIJI |
| 00:27.54 | Exiles | yo |
| 00:33.15 | ds2 | Exiles: one more question for you... is your card the 11Mbs one or the 2Mbs one? (didn't know there were two til i looked up the drivers) |
| 00:35.15 | Exiles | 11 |
| 00:37.32 | ds2 | cool |
| 00:37.39 | Exiles | yeah |
| 00:37.52 | ds2 | so many surprised come up just by doing a basic search :/ |
| 00:37.56 | Exiles | full 802.11b |
| 00:38.21 | ds2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.00 | Exiles | yeah, thats the confusing part |
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| 15:58.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how did the presentation go? |
| 16:01.50 | CosmicPenguin | excellent |
| 16:02.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: good deal |
| 16:02.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you go get some beer last night? |
| 16:02.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this marvell code is giving me migrains and ulcers |
| 16:20.04 | davidc__ | thats what you get for using marvell ;) |
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| 17:26.38 | prpplague | davidc__: yes indeed |
| 17:28.38 | ds2 | prpplague: what kind of documentation are you looking for in a demo project? (between all your utterings, I think I found a nice one) |
| 17:32.16 | prpplague | ds2: mostly like wiki pages and howtos |
| 17:32.29 | ds2 | howtos?! |
| 17:32.41 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:32.49 | ds2 | it is ``obvious'' ;) |
| 17:33.03 | prpplague | ?? |
| 17:33.10 | ds2 | I'll mock up something and you can tell me if it is crazy... the entire design is based on stuff you said so.... ;) |
| 17:33.40 | ds2 | obvious as in basic EE stuff... shouldn't need more then a eagle file and a buildroot tarball to get working ;) |
| 17:34.41 | prpplague | ds2: we are looking for projects that can be documented with educational information |
| 17:34.59 | ds2 | it'll be a mass storage to network interface; catch there is it'll only activate the mass storage device at certain times to upload and manage the device; this is to put my ''dvr'' on the network and the dvr only provides a mass storage interface |
| 17:35.33 | ds2 | prpplague: I'll write up something but need you review it if it is on the level you want... I normally expect some intelligence in my readers |
| 17:35.56 | ds2 | the 2 USB ports should be prefect for this |
| 17:36.09 | prpplague | ds2: ahh, well, we expect intelligent readers, but probably uneducated reads |
| 17:36.11 | prpplague | readers |
| 17:37.07 | ds2 | okay, but if you are calling it a howto, I am guessing it'll be below the level of say a IEEE Spectrum reader or even below the level of a circuit cellar reader |
| 17:38.42 | prpplague | ds2: yea, just a little below circuit cellar readers |
| 17:41.17 | prpplague | ds2: this is a nice example of a howto - http://www.elinux.org/Zipit_Serial_Mod |
| 17:41.55 | ds2 | okay |
| 17:42.45 | ds2 | I still need verify what you said about just switchingpower is enough to trigger the mass storage mode; other then that, your board is nearly prefect |
| 17:43.30 | prpplague | ds2: i did not follow what you just said |
| 17:43.41 | davidc__ | 10Bt will be slow to copy stuff off the mass storage |
| 17:43.58 | ds2 | let me start from an earlier reference point |
| 17:44.25 | ds2 | i got this DVR thing that writes to SD. if I plug it into a USB host, it goes into a mass storage mode and doesn't do anything else |
| 17:44.49 | ds2 | so what I want is to be able to leave a cable physically plugged and be able to enable mass storage at will from software |
| 17:45.07 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:45.09 | ds2 | a while ago you suggested just switching the power line should be enough to do it. this is what i need to check with an experiment |
| 17:45.18 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:45.38 | ds2 | davidc__: slow? its fine... it is supose to run at night when I am asleep |
| 17:45.41 | prpplague | switching the 5v source on and off more than likely will be enough for controlling that |
| 17:46.02 | ds2 | besides, I'm using the second USB port for a WiFi interface... no more ducttaped cat-5 across the livingroom floor! |
| 17:46.45 | ds2 | I studied some USB schematics and came to the same conclusion. but the final test is actually doing it on the device |
| 17:48.00 | ds2 | all the board needs to do is sleep til the appointed time. enable power. mount the directory; ship it off to the main server; dismount; disable power and go back to sleep |
| 17:48.25 | prpplague | completely doable |
| 17:48.34 | ds2 | simple but very useful thing |
| 17:48.54 | ds2 | probally can use this to automatically load MP3s on those watches at night ;) |
| 17:49.35 | ds2 | and since it is an in place app, the lack of a true sleep mode isn't going to hurt too much |
| 17:51.02 | ds2 | prpplague: how's that for a simple, but useful app? =) |
| 17:53.28 | ds2 | diffing takes longer then a build :( |
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| 18:00.20 | prpplague | ds2: yea, sounds interesting |
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| 19:29.30 | CosmicPenguin | blahblah |
| 19:46.04 | chouimat|busy | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 19:58.25 | prpplague | davidc__: you still working on that sdram board? |
| 20:06.57 | jbevren | sdram board? |
| 20:07.49 | prpplague | http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=5713 |
| 20:16.09 | jbevren | oo fun |
| 20:16.15 | jbevren | thats a lot of address lines tho :) |
| 20:18.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't suppose you went to landleys presentation? |
| 20:23.02 | prpplague | anyone know whats up with newsforge? the newsvac hasn't been updated in more than 10 days |
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| 20:25.52 | Exiles | hmmm |
| 20:26.21 | Exiles | you know, maybe looking into a small wifi access point like the FON unit would be of use to you ds2 |
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| 20:30.56 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:31.19 | g1powermac | sorry about that guys, Exiles and I do this fairly regularly on ##microcontrollers ;-) |
| 20:31.21 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I love cleaning my apartment ;) |
| 20:31.44 | prpplague | chouimat|busy: i love watching my wife clean my house, hehehe |
| 20:32.21 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I'm planning to get a new one ... soon but for now I have to do it myself ... and hope my mother won't complain too much |
| 20:34.42 | prpplague | complain about the new wife or clean apartment? |
| 20:35.05 | chouimat|busy | the apartment ... she always find something :) |
| 20:35.15 | prpplague | that's what mothers do |
| 20:35.34 | prpplague | chouimat|busy: she bus'n in to ottawa? |
| 20:35.49 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: no driving |
| 20:36.25 | chouimat|busy | ok bb in a few minutes still have one room to clean ... |
| 20:36.47 | Exiles | hahahaha, Sony just released PSP firmwar 3.51 a day or two after it was "Fixed" |
| 20:36.50 | Exiles | * New for 3.51: A security patch was added to address security vulnerabilities in the system software. |
| 20:42.07 | ds2 | Exiles, I don't think those would do the power sequencing |
| 20:43.37 | prpplague | ds2: i'm not familiar with the FON ap, but the wrt-54g definetly could do it |
| 20:43.53 | ds2 | prpplague: eh? the wrt doesn't have USB host |
| 20:44.13 | prpplague | ds2: you could add it, but even with that, the SLUG would work |
| 20:44.17 | ds2 | the WL500 from asus does but I can't control the power |
| 20:44.47 | ds2 | prpplague: again, I can't control the power directly |
| 20:45.11 | ds2 | the slug is a bit nasty in that it is natively BE |
| 20:46.26 | prpplague | ds2: the wrt-54gs has the usb port |
| 20:46.27 | ds2 | prplague: do you know a page that documents the mods to add USB to a WRT v1? got a few of those cheap |
| 20:46.43 | ds2 | gs? Hmmm |
| 20:47.43 | prpplague | ds2: got a url for linux on the WL500? |
| 20:47.44 | ds2 | blah... it is afflicted by the VxWorks bugs |
| 20:48.03 | ds2 | prpplague: the it runs basically the same code as the WRT so openwrt, etc |
| 20:48.05 | Exiles | new wrt54g/s units are |
| 20:48.21 | ds2 | so it means if I get one, it'll have to be a special from cisco version |
| 20:49.10 | Exiles | I use a wrt54gs v3.0 I think theats the version clocked at 300mhz |
| 20:49.13 | ds2 | actually, I need to the WRTSL54GS if the wikipedia is to be believed |
| 20:49.30 | Exiles | if I'm correct that has usb |
| 20:49.53 | prpplague | hmm, odd i'm not seeing any hardware docs for the wl500 |
| 20:49.56 | Exiles | and is linux based |
| 20:50.00 | ds2 | let me look |
| 20:50.51 | ds2 | try looking for "WL-500g" |
| 20:51.01 | ds2 | and "WL500g" |
| 20:53.03 | prpplague | terrible hardware docs |
| 20:53.20 | ds2 | but it is one of the few versions that have a parallel port AND usb available |
| 20:59.01 | prpplague | man i would have expected better hardware information for the wrt stuff |
| 20:59.40 | ds2 | what is there to document? it is pretty much 1 chip does all |
| 21:00.39 | davidc__ | prpplague - I want to build it, but I haven't convinced those who pay me that it would sell :P |
| 21:00.59 | prpplague | ds2: a ton |
| 21:01.16 | prpplague | ds2: see the examples of the zipit and juicebox |
| 21:02.42 | h3sp4wn | There is some information available on the 5365p (see the link for the pdf from - http://wiki.openwrt.org/HardwareAcceleratedCrypto -> http://voodoowarez.com/bcm5365p.pdf (warez ?) - that is what the wgt634u is based on |
| 21:03.25 | prpplague | h3sp4wn: yea, i'm more interested in things such as a gpio map |
| 21:08.13 | prpplague | is their a hardware modification page around for the wl-500g ? |
| 21:08.21 | h3sp4wn | prpplague: A gpio map for the device or the platform generic information about how to program the gpio's ? |
| 21:09.19 | prpplague | h3sp4wn: for the device itself |
| 21:10.02 | prpplague | i.e. - http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH1940GPIOInfo |
| 21:12.45 | prpplague | ds2: how many leds are on the front of the wl-500g? |
| 21:13.12 | ds2 | prpplague: I don't know but I think it varies depending ont he rev...just like the Linksys |
| 21:13.55 | ds2 | most people don't seem to really mod the wl-500g other then maybe add a serial port; I see a lot more for the WRT's but they are very specific to the rev of the board |
| 21:14.17 | prpplague | ds2: hmm, for reason i thought you said you had one |
| 21:14.45 | ds2 | prpplague: I do, and it is in production as my gateway at home. I am at work now so.... |
| 21:15.55 | prpplague | ds2: ahh |
| 21:16.03 | prpplague | ds2: the wl-500g has a parport? |
| 21:16.09 | ds2 | prplague: yep |
| 21:16.36 | ds2 | got it to replace a 386 I was using as a router; the wl500g paid for itself in about 3 months through electricity cost savings :/ |
| 21:17.03 | prpplague | ds2: ahh well you'll have plenty of I/O then |
| 21:17.10 | prpplague | ds2: you could do a ton of stuff with that |
| 21:17.19 | ds2 | *nod* and +5V tolerant IO at that |
| 21:17.38 | ds2 | prpplague: except for the fact it is in production... sure and they cost about 1.7x a WRT |
| 21:21.03 | prpplague | yea well you could add the usb port to the wrt54g pretty easy as well |
| 21:21.24 | ds2 | for rev1? I got a unit I repaired that I can play with but is a rev1 |
| 21:22.03 | prpplague | ds2: i'd have to look at it, but there isn't any reason you couldn't |
| 21:22.22 | ds2 | if you can figure out, I'd be very very very appreciative |
| 21:22.29 | ds2 | it would open up universes of uses for those boxes |
| 21:23.00 | prpplague | unfortuantely i have neither a wrt54g or the time |
| 21:23.07 | ds2 | =) |
| 21:26.39 | prpplague | ds2: i'll have a look at wal-mart this evening |
| 21:27.00 | ds2 | prpplague: those are VxWorks versions if you find them |
| 21:27.33 | prpplague | actually i think i might have one at home |
| 21:27.38 | prpplague | now that i think about it |
| 21:30.04 | ds2 | I think they are suppose to be THE broadcom reference design |
| 21:30.19 | ds2 | so if you can get the broadcom docs, it should be pretty accurate |
| 21:30.38 | prpplague | ds2: thats doesn't say much, when i do a project, i document it |
| 21:31.05 | Exiles | well, broadcom is piss at the docs they have nda's on everything |
| 21:32.05 | prpplague | Exiles: thats really not an issue, you can still post gpio info and such |
| 21:33.01 | Exiles | I would Love to know the pins for USB support |
| 21:33.15 | Exiles | I know the chips have usb host support |
| 21:34.20 | prpplague | yea, most devices that have onboard usb host require that if the usb ports are not used that they have to be cap'd and pulled down with resistors |
| 21:34.43 | prpplague | which means that more than likely the lines are brought out on the board to atleast a couple of smd points |
| 21:34.49 | Exiles | CPU: BCM4712 rev 1 at 300 MHz |
| 21:34.49 | Exiles | Using 150.000 MHz high precision timer. |
| 21:34.49 | Exiles | Calibrating delay loop... 299.00 BogoMIPS |
| 21:34.51 | ds2 | Hmmm |
| 21:35.32 | ds2 | making a quality hardware /dev/random? =) |
| 21:35.54 | Exiles | dmesg |
| 21:36.15 | ds2 | i mean the overclocking |
| 21:38.02 | Exiles | nah |
| 21:38.09 | Exiles | known tested vaules |
| 21:38.28 | Exiles | but, to do it and be stable, I had to install a heatsink on the cpu |
| 21:40.37 | prpplague | hmm, what chip is the wl-500g based on? |
| 21:40.48 | Exiles | same cpu |
| 21:41.42 | prpplague | so someone needs to get a wl-500g and then depopulate it, traces the usb lines and bang your done |
| 21:41.57 | ds2 | fwiw: |
| 21:42.02 | ds2 | system type : Broadcom BCM947XX |
| 21:42.02 | ds2 | processor : 0 |
| 21:42.02 | ds2 | cpu model : BCM4710 V0.0 |
| 21:42.02 | ds2 | BogoMIPS : 82.94 |
| 21:42.08 | ds2 | from a wl-500g |
| 21:42.31 | Exiles | 4710 5365 4704 depending on the model |
| 21:43.03 | Exiles | WL-500g Deluxe has USB 2.0 |
| 21:43.05 | prpplague | well if you could pick up a 4710 based one, thats all you need |
| 21:44.18 | Exiles | 4712 has usb though too |
| 21:44.43 | Exiles | some belkin units have it pulled |
| 21:45.35 | prpplague | yea, just need some time and a couple of ap's |
| 21:45.57 | prpplague | later folks |
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