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| 09:59.18 | Crofton|home | SpaceMonkey, I have trouble reading pictures of my 1G sd card |
| 09:59.31 | Crofton|home | it gets the most of them ok, but the last few seem corrupt |
| 09:59.38 | SpaceMonkey | what platform we talking about here |
| 10:00.14 | Crofton|home | Linux diestop |
| 10:00.17 | Crofton|home | er |
| 10:00.19 | Crofton|home | desktop |
| 10:00.38 | SpaceMonkey | I hope those last few wernt important! |
| 10:00.48 | SpaceMonkey | you should get your devboard to read them in |
| 10:01.09 | Crofton|home | heh |
| 10:01.16 | Crofton|home | I am going to try widders |
| 10:01.50 | Crofton|home | I suspect I will need to use cable |
| 10:01.54 | Crofton|home | I have had this issue b4 |
| 10:02.51 | SpaceMonkey | you know when you are compiling a kernel module and you get random undefinred references. Is there any way to isolate what is causing these? |
| 11:07.20 | Crofton|home | http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/737363716/in/set-72157600680791281/ |
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| 14:06.49 | prpplague | well yahoo.com appears to be completely down |
| 14:08.59 | Crofton | my.yahoo.com works for me ... |
| 14:09.57 | prpplague | Crofton: interesting |
| 14:10.36 | prpplague | Crofton: several security sites are reporting it down |
| 14:10.43 | Crofton | weird |
| 14:17.28 | prpplague | Crofton: are you able to load up http://mail.yahoo.com |
| 14:18.27 | prpplague | hmm appears to be back up now |
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| 18:01.59 | prpplague | lovely |
| 18:02.21 | prpplague | dev boards will be shipping in 3 weeks to those of you who are going to beta test |
| 18:06.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: sweet!! are there any sort of docs available now/soon/before the package arrives? |
| 18:06.51 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea |
| 18:09.59 | prpplague | wmat: ping |
| 18:14.42 | wmat | prpplague: pong |
| 18:15.10 | _abc_ | arrg |
| 18:16.27 | prpplague | wmat: tikiwiki , familiar with it? |
| 18:16.40 | prpplague | _abc_: mips correct? |
| 18:16.46 | _abc_ | yes. |
| 18:16.56 | _abc_ | cheap and good. linux on it |
| 18:17.00 | wmat | prpplague: nope, sorry |
| 18:17.11 | prpplague | _abc_: only a couple people here are mips related, might try one of the mips channels |
| 18:17.20 | _abc_ | ok, thanks |
| 18:17.29 | _abc_ | i'll lurk for a little longer though |
| 18:17.32 | prpplague | wmat: hmm, wonder how difficult it would be to move tikiwiki pages over to the elinux wiki |
| 18:18.28 | wmat | prpplague: I doubt it would be too hard |
| 18:19.17 | wmat | prpplague: how come? you got some pages for elinux.org? |
| 18:19.57 | prpplague | wmat: well, we will start collecting documents for the hammer board, but we don't want them public as of yet |
| 18:20.22 | prpplague | wmat: it would be better if we had a section of the elinux wiki that we could restrict and do all the pages there first |
| 18:21.04 | wmat | prpplague: that's definitely a feature we need to add |
| 18:21.15 | wmat | a "don't publish yet" button or something |
| 18:22.29 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:26.13 | wmat | i'm regretting not using Drupal or something similar instead of Mediawiki |
| 18:27.12 | prpplague | wmat: yea, i really like moin though |
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| 18:34.02 | _abc_ | who did the chanserv trick for me ? thx. I'm already on #mipslinux |
| 18:35.52 | wmat | prpplague: moin is good |
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| 18:53.28 | prpplague | wmat: ping |
| 18:58.43 | wmat | prpplague: pong |
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| 19:54.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, when using alloc_etherdev , shouldn't the ethernet device show up with ifconfig -a as soon as that is called? |
| 19:55.18 | CosmicPenguin | I think so |
| 19:55.52 | prpplague | ahh, files in the values but doesn't register the device |
| 19:55.58 | prpplague | i was thinking it registered it as well |
| 20:03.10 | prpplague | uh oh |
| 20:12.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehehe |
| 20:21.10 | _abc_ | ok, prpplague, all, I am leaving |
| 20:21.11 | _abc_ | thanks |
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| 20:39.11 | ds2 | anyone picking up one of those recently discounted OMAP 1710 systems? |
| 20:43.54 | prpplague | not i |
| 20:44.09 | prpplague | ds2: are you refering to the nokia 770? |
| 20:44.13 | ds2 | prpplague: yep |
| 20:46.26 | ds2 | is there some surprises with the OMAP's? |
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| 20:47.06 | prpplague | ds2: thats an understatement imho |
| 20:47.32 | ds2 | any short summary for the uneducated,unaware? |
| 20:47.38 | prpplague | Crofton has experience with omap |
| 20:47.55 | Crofton | define surprises |
| 20:48.12 | ds2 | anything out of the ordinary |
| 20:48.23 | CosmicPenguin | This is embedded development |
| 20:48.25 | CosmicPenguin | define ordinary |
| 20:48.28 | ds2 | I've messed with Cirrus Logic ARM7, Intel PXA's and they all seem pretty tame |
| 20:48.30 | Crofton | I don't think so :) |
| 20:48.50 | Crofton | there are some headaches with binary only bits of the 770 |
| 20:49.03 | Crofton | the OE guys haven't replaced the OS on the 770 yet |
| 20:49.09 | ds2 | so that's the only gotcha? |
| 20:49.12 | Crofton | yeah |
| 20:49.23 | Crofton | good value for the price |
| 20:49.30 | Crofton | I got one of the early ones cheap |
| 20:49.37 | Crofton | it is great for traveling |
| 20:49.58 | Crofton | finding access points and playing mahjong |
| 20:50.21 | ds2 | is there docs available for the 1710? or does that require giving up body parts? |
| 20:50.36 | Crofton | Ti site has loads of docs |
| 20:50.46 | ds2 | for OMAP?! |
| 20:50.53 | Crofton | yeah |
| 20:51.10 | ds2 | okay, I must be blind then. cuz all I found was a page saying if you don't plan to use 23408149284382094132890483290481239048123904812390480912348902384902384 per year, don't bother asking |
| 20:51.10 | Crofton | also look at the linux omap list archives |
| 20:51.20 | Crofton | well |
| 20:51.26 | Crofton | stuff is around |
| 20:51.37 | ds2 | I shall look again |
| 20:56.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ugh i need to set up some dma rw for this |
| 21:02.16 | CosmicPenguin | good for you |
| 21:02.23 | CosmicPenguin | dma is good for the soul |
| 21:03.09 | Crofton | does CFI flash apply to NAND flash? |
| 21:03.52 | ds2 | strike 1 - OMAP is not listed as part of their MCU offering |
| 21:04.03 | Crofton | ? |
| 21:04.17 | CosmicPenguin | ds2: stop it - the OMAP is one of the better supported Linux processors out there |
| 21:04.18 | ds2 | the only mention of OMAP is through a search |
| 21:04.19 | prpplague | Crofton: CFI is mainly a standard for NOR flash |
| 21:04.41 | ds2 | CosmicPenguin: I am not making it up... I can't find a datasheet or a user guide on the ti site |
| 21:04.58 | Crofton | yeah, just finding u-boot nand flash wants some things from cfi |
| 21:05.09 | ds2 | CFI? |
| 21:05.20 | prpplague | Crofton:really? |
| 21:05.26 | prpplague | Crofton: that seems odd |
| 21:05.35 | Crofton | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/OSK |
| 21:05.37 | prpplague | http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbusplashcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&contentId=4758 |
| 21:05.38 | Crofton | yeah |
| 21:06.12 | prpplague | ds2: common flash interface |
| 21:06.19 | prpplague | ~CFI |
| 21:06.24 | ds2 | ah |
| 21:07.01 | Crofton | http://linux.omap.com/pipermail/linux-omap-open-source/2007-July/thread.html |
| 21:07.54 | prpplague | Crofton: was that url for me? |
| 21:08.01 | Crofton | no, ds2 |
| 21:08.06 | prpplague | ah ok |
| 21:08.28 | ds2 | Crofton: is that apublic list? |
| 21:08.34 | Crofton | yes |
| 21:08.40 | prpplague | Crofton: if you find out what uboot wants for cfi, let me know, it might also relate to a problem i have with apex booting on the s3c2440 with nand flash |
| 21:08.42 | ds2 | Oh cool |
| 21:08.56 | ds2 | <-- needs to keep work and hobby seperate :-/ |
| 21:09.39 | ds2 | prplague: NDAs and such make it a big mess :/ |
| 21:10.15 | ds2 | sigh unless I can find a public source for the 1710 docs, I don't think I can legitimate do any real development with it :( |
| 21:10.53 | Crofton | email the linux-omap list an ask where the docs are |
| 21:11.36 | ds2 | Crofton: I'm on there but not in a personal capacity so that wouldn't be good |
| 21:12.26 | Crofton | gmail accounts |
| 21:12.35 | Crofton | the docs are around |
| 21:12.55 | ds2 | legitimately around? |
| 21:13.03 | Crofton | I am pretty sure |
| 21:13.13 | Crofton | the omap numbering system is wacked |
| 21:13.28 | Crofton | I suspect the ompa5912 docs are pretty close |
| 21:13.39 | ds2 | !! |
| 21:13.51 | ds2 | that is an odd numbering scheme |
| 21:13.56 | Crofton | yeah |
| 21:14.27 | Crofton | I'll load xterm on mine and see if I can figure out the chip |
| 21:14.58 | orb1t_ | can anybody help me in building uClibc buildroot under FreeBSD6.2 ? |
| 21:16.11 | orb1t_ | I'm receiving: |
| 21:16.11 | orb1t_ | toolchain/patch-kernel.sh /usr/home/orb1t/work/linux-on-sx1/buildroot/toolchain_build_arm_nofpu/mpfr-2.2.1 package/mpfr/ \*.patch |
| 21:16.11 | orb1t_ | Aborting. Reject files found. |
| 21:16.11 | orb1t_ | gmake: *** [/usr/home/orb1t/work/linux-on-sx1/buildroot/toolchain_build_arm_nofpu/mpfr-2.2.1/.unpacked] Error 1 |
| 21:16.18 | CosmicPenguin | ah! |
| 21:16.22 | CosmicPenguin | pastebin, please |
| 21:16.32 | orb1t_ | ? |
| 21:16.42 | orb1t_ | explain plz |
| 21:16.58 | g1powermac | http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 21:17.25 | g1powermac | though generally I wouldn't complain too much for a three line paste, but thats just me :-) |
| 21:18.29 | orb1t_ | sorry, I'm really new to all this stuff |
| 21:18.37 | orb1t_ | plz explain what should I do there :) |
| 21:18.59 | Crofton__ | ds2, from the OSK http://pastebin.ca/606447 |
| 21:19.03 | g1powermac | basically, instead of pasting error messages directly here, you can past it there |
| 21:19.12 | g1powermac | and then just paste the link here |
| 21:19.26 | orb1t_ | ok |
| 21:19.36 | g1powermac | its to prevent flooding really |
| 21:19.40 | prpplague | orb1t_: something is wrong with the patch against the mpfr package |
| 21:20.42 | orb1t_ | I've simply downloaded latest buildroot, and tryed to build it |
| 21:21.06 | prpplague | orb1t_: the latest buildroot is a work in-progress, doesn't mean its fully working |
| 21:21.12 | g1powermac | I bet you guys have seen a few pasted entire dmesgs here. . . |
| 21:21.34 | prpplague | once or twice |
| 21:21.34 | orb1t_ | which stable is better to use ? |
| 21:21.52 | g1powermac | prpplague, we seen them a few times in #morphix as well :-) |
| 21:22.23 | prpplague | orb1t_: use a date of about 4 months ago, anything newer and more than likely it is broken |
| 21:23.09 | orb1t_ | ok, thx, gonna try now |
| 21:25.30 | orb1t_ | where I can find it ? on http://buildroot.uclibc.org/downloads/, there are only jun-july 2007, and old ones from 2005 |
| 21:26.16 | Exiles | ds2, you around? |
| 21:26.18 | ds2 | Crofton__: my real problem is not 'knowning it' but being able to establish the information is not restricted |
| 21:26.21 | ds2 | Exiles: yes? |
| 21:26.42 | Exiles | I sent the spectrum24 11mb wifi card out yesterday |
| 21:26.58 | Exiles | antistatic bag in a padded envelope |
| 21:27.00 | ds2 | Exiles: parcel post or pony express carrier? =) |
| 21:27.06 | prpplague | orb1t_: http://buildroot.busybox.net/subversion.html |
| 21:27.10 | Exiles | first class mail |
| 21:27.12 | ds2 | no hurry, just trying to know when to expect it |
| 21:27.24 | ds2 | Oh okay so I'll check around Tue |
| 21:28.21 | ds2 | thanks for the quick turn around. |
| 21:28.50 | Exiles | hey, wanted to get it out to you as fast as possible |
| 21:29.06 | Exiles | you got me the money order fast, so I should do the same |
| 21:29.14 | Exiles | it's only fair |
| 21:29.15 | ds2 | I've been jaded by buying used from Amazon |
| 21:29.26 | ds2 | where everything comes by 3rd class media rate ;) |
| 21:29.32 | Exiles | ick |
| 21:29.34 | g1powermac | heh |
| 21:29.55 | g1powermac | ds2, I haven't found amazon's marketplace not so bad |
| 21:30.04 | g1powermac | ebay is worse |
| 21:30.21 | ds2 | g1powermac: maybe it is the sellers... I ordered 2 PS1 LCD screens through them |
| 21:30.31 | g1powermac | hmm, maybe |
| 21:30.35 | ds2 | both came via media rate mail; 1 was missing a circuit board inside |
| 21:30.39 | g1powermac | I generally buy used books |
| 21:30.45 | Exiles | well, at least some people are fast |
| 21:30.46 | ds2 | but at least the seller accepted the unit back |
| 21:30.47 | g1powermac | from them |
| 21:31.21 | ds2 | prices isn't bad and amazon collects funds so I can stomach them more then I can with ebay |
| 21:31.33 | g1powermac | hmm, speaking of lcds, I could really use a second monitor. . . |
| 21:31.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and no, dma is not good for the soul |
| 21:32.14 | ds2 | only reason i wanted the ps1 screens was they are suppose to be 80% compatible with a VGA board; just need C-sync and it'll work |
| 21:32.31 | g1powermac | hmm, cool |
| 21:32.35 | Exiles | nice |
| 21:33.05 | prpplague | the quality of the ps1 screen running as vga is poor |
| 21:33.17 | prpplague | you'd be better of using a real vga display |
| 21:34.08 | Exiles | I'm happier with my Dumpster Dived 17" LCD here that I reset once a month by pulling it's power cord. |
| 21:34.26 | Exiles | it's used as a secondary display |
| 21:34.32 | prpplague | nice |
| 21:34.58 | Exiles | about once a month it dies, I pull the power on it for ~15 seconds |
| 21:35.12 | Exiles | plug it back it and it's good to go for another month |
| 21:35.25 | g1powermac | heh |
| 21:35.27 | ds2 | but seeing the "Game Stop" bags it had, I'm starting to check those stores whenever I'm around |
| 21:35.50 | ds2 | prpplague: know a source for a 4-5" real VGA display? |
| 21:35.59 | Exiles | you know, for the price I paid for the LCD, I can't complain |
| 21:36.02 | prpplague | http://www.earthlcd.com |
| 21:36.12 | ds2 | under $50? =) |
| 21:36.28 | prpplague | http://www.eio.com |
| 21:36.31 | Exiles | I love Free Stuff |
| 21:36.34 | ds2 | earthlcd had a nice kit but it was way more |
| 21:36.49 | Exiles | Any Free Grahic LCD's? |
| 21:36.49 | ds2 | nothing suitable for VGA drive in the price range at EIO |
| 21:37.10 | ds2 | I'll take a 4-5" CRT VGA display at that price range if i can find it |
| 21:37.25 | ds2 | (it is for a CNC milling machine) |
| 21:38.32 | Exiles | I just want a free 160x160-320x320 |
| 21:38.45 | Exiles | or anything inbetween |
| 21:38.51 | prpplague | http://store.earthlcd.com/EDMGRB8KJF |
| 21:38.55 | prpplague | thats a nice buy |
| 21:39.13 | prpplague | Exiles: free or cheap? |
| 21:39.18 | Exiles | Free |
| 21:39.28 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:39.49 | Exiles | ran out of money down to ~$15 for the month |
| 21:39.53 | prpplague | Exiles: i can recommend cheap, but have no clue about free |
| 21:40.43 | Exiles | Cheap aka under $5.00 |
| 21:40.50 | prpplague | Exiles: juicebox |
| 21:40.57 | prpplague | Exiles: pixter-multimedia |
| 21:41.21 | Exiles | g1powermac, got any juicebox's left? |
| 21:42.23 | prpplague | http://www.overstock.com/Bulk-Electronics/Mattel-Juice-Box-Media-Players-Case-of-2/2192839/product.html?IID=prod2192839 |
| 21:42.33 | prpplague | $25.99 for two |
| 21:43.38 | ds2 | prpplague: got a cheap PCI card to drive that LCD screen ?=) |
| 21:43.58 | Exiles | make one! |
| 21:44.29 | prpplague | ~lart ds2 |
| 21:44.29 | purl | blames ds2 for all the evil in the world |
| 21:44.42 | prpplague | ds2: pci bah! |
| 21:44.44 | ds2 | make/cheap/pci does not go together |
| 21:44.51 | ds2 | it is for an x86 app |
| 21:45.00 | ds2 | so either I drive it via USB |
| 21:45.48 | prpplague | you x86 board doesn't have lcd output |
| 21:45.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 21:46.06 | CosmicPenguin | My board has lcd output, el guappo |
| 21:46.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i know yours did |
| 21:46.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: didn't know if ds2 did |
| 21:47.37 | ds2 | I'm using stock, trash pile quality PC motherboards.... so no. |
| 21:47.52 | ds2 | Exiles: BAH jsut PA-RISC.... I'd be more worried if you said 68000 ;) |
| 21:49.58 | ds2 | did someone other then palm use the dragonballs? |
| 21:50.15 | prpplague | we did |
| 21:50.41 | prpplague | the M5000 was one of the best datacollectors on the market for the price |
| 21:51.45 | Exiles | http://www.hpmuseum.net/image.php?file=1419 |
| 21:51.56 | Exiles | I only got the computer |
| 21:52.00 | Exiles | http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=430 |
| 21:52.04 | prpplague | http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/07/06/2054225.shtml thats interesting |
| 21:52.16 | Exiles | 712/60 |
| 21:52.22 | ds2 | Exiles: those are nice boxes... got the HPUX install disk/tapes? |
| 21:52.28 | Exiles | I wish |
| 21:52.48 | prpplague | later folks |
| 21:52.49 | ds2 | school had a bunch 725's donated |
| 21:53.09 | Exiles | any hpux copies laying around? |
| 21:53.40 | ds2 | donno, I'm about 500miles away from school |
| 21:53.46 | Exiles | dang |
| 21:53.56 | Exiles | I would love to get my hands on hpux |
| 21:54.02 | Exiles | using debian on it atm |
| 21:54.08 | ds2 | I think they been mostly decomissioned in favor of an intel donation |
| 21:55.43 | Exiles | well, I have to go now, later |
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