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| 12:59.09 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:03.54 | sjhill | hey chouimat |
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| 14:01.57 | chouimat | prpplague: ok another 5 weeks of hell according to Murphy ;) |
| 14:02.12 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, i hope not |
| 14:02.27 | prpplague | chouimat: i got the boss breathing down my neck |
| 14:02.36 | prpplague | chouimat: its already weeks behind on my part |
| 14:03.23 | chouimat | prpplague: ouch |
| 14:04.29 | prpplague | chouimat: though i do have a somewhat viable excuse, almost no documentation |
| 14:04.52 | prpplague | chouimat: and absolutely no examples of code |
| 14:05.09 | chouimat | prpplague: yup and "time estimate is also hard to do right " |
| 14:07.23 | prpplague | chouimat: i should have done better on the estimate though |
| 14:07.42 | prpplague | chouimat: without docs and examples it was going to be alot more difficult than a normal driver work |
| 14:08.40 | chouimat | prpplague: true ... it's just a little worse than changing specs and "I will give you the info you need to do the job" |
| 14:09.32 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
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| 14:27.07 | agaffney | prpplague: why's that? |
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| 14:35.55 | prpplague | agaffney: just alot going on personally.... behind on work, short on $$ due to all the moving expenses |
| 14:35.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 14:36.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wasn't expecting to see you till next week |
| 14:41.28 | CosmicPenguin | erm? |
| 14:49.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thought you were on holiday for the week |
| 14:49.14 | CosmicPenguin | just two days |
| 14:49.17 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:50.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sdio irq's driving me nuts |
| 15:10.32 | g1powermac | hey prpplague |
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| 15:14.23 | prpplague | g1powermac: greetings |
| 15:15.01 | g1powermac | pretty interesting design they used to make them |
| 15:15.14 | g1powermac | the whole thing is powered by a pci controller and a very small xilinx cpld |
| 15:15.22 | prpplague | interesting |
| 15:15.44 | g1powermac | and little module cards that attach to the main card that provides the analog interface for each line |
| 15:16.16 | g1powermac | but really amazingly sparse pcb |
| 15:16.23 | g1powermac | very little components on it |
| 15:17.27 | g1powermac | but yea, a 44 pin cpld |
| 15:17.41 | g1powermac | amazingly small for such a task of handling four phone lines |
| 15:21.23 | chouimat | g1powermac: are they expensive? |
| 15:21.32 | g1powermac | http://cgi.ebay.com/ZapMicro-Asterisk-PCI-Card-TDM400P-Quad-FXS-4-TDM04B_W0QQitemZ130133213719QQihZ003QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 15:21.41 | g1powermac | you can see some pics of it on that auction |
| 15:21.49 | g1powermac | chouimat, cheaper than digium's cards |
| 15:22.00 | g1powermac | I actually bought mine from that seller on ebay |
| 15:22.52 | g1powermac | the chip with the zapmicro sticker on it is the pci controller |
| 15:23.05 | prpplague | interesting indeed |
| 15:23.15 | prpplague | g1powermac: those .1" headers ? |
| 15:23.23 | g1powermac | yup |
| 15:23.54 | g1powermac | very tough headers too, took me a little bit to get one of those cards out to see the underside :-) |
| 15:28.53 | prpplague | g1powermac: surprised they didn't use 2mm |
| 15:28.57 | g1powermac | this is the pci controller chip: http://www.tjnet.com/chips/tiger320.htm |
| 15:29.07 | g1powermac | yea |
| 15:32.25 | g1powermac | and the cpld is just a simple xc9536xl |
| 16:20.49 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 16:24.56 | sjhill | no |
| 16:25.03 | sjhill | "Ho Ho Ho, Green Giant" |
| 16:26.24 | prpplague | sjhill: that too |
| 16:26.36 | g1powermac | heh |
| 16:26.43 | prpplague | sjhill: how goes things? we don't hear much chatter from you these days |
| 16:42.01 | sjhill | prpplague: very busy, i just hang out for questions |
| 16:42.14 | sjhill | prpplague: i'm trying to simplify my life |
| 16:43.14 | sjhill | prpplague: i'm working down my ToDo lists and being vigilante to handle things as soon as they crop up...can't do everything, but i can certainly simplify how much i'm doing |
| 16:44.05 | prpplague | sjhill: indeed |
| 16:44.09 | prpplague | sjhill: i need to do the same |
| 16:44.53 | prpplague | sjhill: none the less, all guru's i know have basically dropped off irc |
| 16:47.34 | g1powermac | hmm, thats sad to hear |
| 16:50.48 | prpplague | g1powermac: yea, most everyone has gotten too busy to use irc |
| 16:51.43 | g1powermac | which is currently many times. . . . |
| 16:52.21 | g1powermac | except today |
| 16:59.25 | prpplague | g1powermac: me too,but i have to sort out this irq problem |
| 17:01.32 | g1powermac | yea, like I really should be working on a commercial right now, but that isn't going to happen today ;-) |
| 17:21.01 | agaffney | more of that? |
| 17:23.41 | chouimat | prpplague: I guess soon the desk will be comfortable enough for you too sleep ;) |
| 17:27.48 | prpplague | agaffney: yep |
| 17:28.01 | prpplague | agaffney: i jsut can't seem to get a grip on this irq handler |
| 17:28.07 | agaffney | can't help you there :P |
| 17:31.35 | prpplague | agaffney: don't worry, its the way it always is |
| 17:31.40 | prpplague | agaffney: i'm on my own |
| 17:31.56 | agaffney | heh |
| 17:32.31 | prpplague | agaffney: its a stange habit i've formed, i seem to take on projects where there isn't another soul on the planet to work with on |
| 17:37.52 | ds2 | i much rather be dealing with IRQ issues then the mm subsystem |
| 17:39.09 | prpplague | ds2: thats assuming you have documentation on the irq timming |
| 17:42.17 | ds2 | prpplague: doesn't matter... I can wrap my mind around IRQ issues... I can't quite seem to do that with the mm stuff |
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| 17:57.37 | T0mW | MonMotha: still in school? |
| 18:07.05 | prpplague | T0mW: no he's not in school, you know MonMotha has no class |
| 18:07.16 | T0mW | :P |
| 18:07.39 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, just a hacker looking for validation |
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| 20:22.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS4833800024.html |
| 20:22.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is that the AMD reference design? |
| 20:22.48 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 20:22.58 | CosmicPenguin | oh, wait |
| 20:23.01 | CosmicPenguin | sorry, wrong name |
| 20:23.08 | CosmicPenguin | I was thinking of the other box - the VIA one |
| 20:23.24 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - thats our reference design |
| 20:23.32 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:24.46 | prpplague | i thought so |
| 20:25.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm thinking of ordering a couple of those |
| 20:25.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i had planned to order some PICS |
| 20:25.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but i might get those instead |
| 20:29.11 | CosmicPenguin | I like how they're "sponsoring" porting the OLPC software |
| 20:29.13 | CosmicPenguin | thats a short trip indeed |
| 20:29.27 | CosmicPenguin | y |
| 20:29.37 | CosmicPenguin | I updated my window manager, and now all is badness |
| 20:29.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 20:36.13 | CosmicPenguin | hmm - koolu raises many questions |
| 20:36.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: do tell |
| 20:41.03 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder who manages their ubuntu code |
| 20:53.42 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 20:54.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ??? |
| 20:56.23 | CosmicPenguin | I can't find a link to their distro, can you? |
| 20:59.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no i don't see a repo or download anywhere |
| 21:00.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't see any references at all to source |
| 21:01.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they just point people to ubuntu's web site |
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| 21:07.29 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if they know that LinuxBIOS will just work (TM) |
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| 21:18.27 | mistik1 | some familiar faces at it were ;-) |
| 21:20.17 | prpplague | mistik1: yea, alot of folks from the old #elinux and #tuxscreen pages |
| 21:23.54 | mistik1 | prpplague: Yea, somehow like minded people often concregate given time ;-) |
| 21:26.58 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: While youre on LinuxBIOS, doe sit support the geode's text or framebuffer? |
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| 21:27.01 | wmat | prpplague: #elinux is still active :) |
| 21:27.10 | jbevren | wmat: it is. :) |
| 21:27.28 | wmat | haha, of course ;) |
| 21:27.37 | wmat | well, i say things in there occasionally anyway |
| 21:27.42 | prpplague | wmat: hehe |
| 21:29.07 | prpplague | wmat: lovely |
| 21:29.15 | prpplague | wmat: you can get some good beer there in ottawa |
| 21:29.31 | wmat | prpplague: yep, i'm hoping to have some tonight |
| 21:29.51 | wmat | but i'm exhausted, so perhaps not too many |
| 21:30.13 | jbevren | wmat: /me waves to the GCC summit |
| 21:30.35 | jbevren | so acorn apparently released an arm laptop |
| 21:30.43 | jbevren | I so want an arm laptop :) |
| 21:30.43 | wmat | really?? |
| 21:30.46 | wmat | link? |
| 21:30.52 | jbevren | ages ago |
| 21:30.55 | jbevren | let me look it up again |
| 21:31.02 | jbevren | it was in the old archimedes series, some 25mhzish |
| 21:31.41 | jbevren | http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~theom/riscos/a4/index.html has a disassembly thingy |
| 21:31.48 | jbevren | link to techref manual too |
| 21:33.15 | wmat | oh, i thought you meant a new one |
| 21:33.34 | jbevren | nono |
| 21:33.43 | jbevren | acorn hasnt done an ARM pc for ages |
| 21:33.48 | jbevren | Ionyx(sp?) does |
| 21:33.53 | jbevren | but theyre ghastly in cost |
| 21:33.54 | wmat | ah |
| 21:34.23 | jbevren | the Acorn A4 is an Arm3 system |
| 21:36.38 | prpplague | well there was a nice sa-11xx based laptop available and retailed under different names |
| 21:37.09 | prpplague | http://www.scansmart.com/catalog/6651.asp |
| 21:37.55 | prpplague | whoops |
| 21:37.58 | prpplague | thats the mips based one |
| 21:38.17 | prpplague | there is another one identical case thats sa-1110 based |
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| 21:41.04 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe you could get one of the vtech color blasts and do a mod on it |
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| 21:45.47 | jbevren | those ar ARMed? |
| 21:46.47 | jbevren | curious devices those vtechs |
| 21:46.59 | prpplague | jbevren: the model i purchased had a sharp lh79524 in it |
| 21:47.28 | jbevren | cool |
| 21:47.33 | jbevren | is jtag extended at all? |
| 21:47.47 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:47.55 | jbevren | which remidns me, pepper still havent mailed me back |
| 21:47.59 | prpplague | jbevren: but i yaked it and replace it with a s3c2410 |
| 21:48.04 | jbevren | firefox crashes on my arm-based pepperpad |
| 21:48.10 | jbevren | but memtest shows no errors |
| 21:48.16 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what you get for not using a LX based pepper |
| 21:48.23 | ds2 | ob complaint - it is really irritating when userland does not use the same header files for flags passed to the kernel@!#$@#! |
| 21:48.27 | MonMotha | T0mW: no, I'm no longer in school |
| 21:48.29 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: it was fine actually, till the most recent update |
| 21:48.34 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: that said, I bet the LX oens are cool |
| 21:48.43 | jbevren | this one was $300 cheaper, and I'm just not into x86 ;) |
| 21:48.44 | CosmicPenguin | meh - I dunno about that |
| 21:48.51 | jbevren | if I wanted a PC notepad, I'd get a real one ;) |
| 21:48.55 | CosmicPenguin | I'm just into selling Geodes, because I really like my job |
| 21:49.01 | CosmicPenguin | Money is really nice |
| 21:49.24 | jbevren | youre telling me :) |
| 21:49.27 | ds2 | Geodes are fine chips |
| 21:49.31 | jbevren | I'll be lucky if I report $12k in earnings this year |
| 21:50.25 | jbevren | I used to have a boca javastation |
| 21:50.33 | jbevren | it was an old geode (cyrix era) |
| 21:50.46 | jbevren | ran linux and rdesktop from a DOC |
| 21:59.59 | jbevren | man |
| 22:00.06 | jbevren | can anyone here translate romanian? hehe |
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| 22:12.06 | jbevren | meh :) |
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