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| 02:09.50 | Dr{Who} | anyone have any experience with buding xorg under uclib/buildroot for x86 |
| 02:10.02 | Dr{Who} | i am having strange issues. I dont have all the answers yet but it looks like some of the data is getting fried on the stack or something during a call to bdfIsInteger the string being passed is is getting hozed or something |
| 02:10.20 | Dr{Who} | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.32 | Dr{Who} | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:31.39 | Dr{Who} | also for buildroot i had to modify xorg.mk it had a few problems |
| 02:33.00 | Dr{Who} | xkbcomp tries to symlink back to itself or something odd i didnt spend much time just commented it out |
| 02:33.08 | Dr{Who} | - mv $(XORG_LIBX)/X11/xkb/xkbcomp $(XORG_BINX)/ |
| 02:33.08 | Dr{Who} | - (cd $(XORG_LIBX)/X11/xkb; ln -s ../../../bin/xkbcomp) |
| 02:33.08 | Dr{Who} | +# mv $(XORG_LIBX)/X11/xkb/xkbcomp $(XORG_BINX)/ |
| 02:33.08 | Dr{Who} | +# (cd $(XORG_LIBX)/X11/xkb; ln -s ../../../bin/xkbcomp) |
| 02:35.24 | Dr{Who} | the error was this |
| 02:35.44 | Dr{Who} | and would cause buildroot to bail out |
| 02:35.46 | Dr{Who} | cp -LRf /home/buildroot/build_i586/staging_dir/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /home/buildroot/build_i586/root/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ |
| 02:35.46 | Dr{Who} | (cd /home/buildroot/build_i586/root/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb; ln -s ../../../bin/xkbcomp) |
| 02:35.46 | Dr{Who} | ln: creating symbolic link `./xkbcomp': File exists |
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| 14:19.29 | wmat | prpplague: pong |
| 14:25.22 | prpplague | wmat: elinux.org was down yesterday |
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| 14:49.43 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:52.58 | Crofton|laptop | gm |
| 14:56.09 | wmat | prpplague: it was, dammit |
| 14:56.24 | wmat | prpplague: i'll try to find out why |
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| 17:31.14 | wmat | anyone know of a way to powercycle remote boards that are usb powered? |
| 17:31.43 | wmat | ideally i'd like to do it in software, but a hardware solution isn't out of the question |
| 17:31.46 | agaffney | remotely pull the plug :P |
| 17:32.07 | wmat | my arms are too short |
| 17:32.51 | agaffney | is the board only powered by usb, or does it actually send/receive data over usb as well? |
| 17:36.16 | ds2 | add a switch in the middle! |
| 17:39.17 | wmat | agaffney: both |
| 17:45.19 | prpplague | wmat: depends |
| 17:45.40 | prpplague | wmat: is it a remote board connected to a pc? |
| 18:06.49 | wmat | prpplague: it's a remote board connected via a ULINK2 adapter to a PC running windows |
| 18:07.42 | wmat | libusb on windows causes boot failures on the windows machine |
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| 18:12.36 | steliosk | wmat : usb power is controlled by the usb host controller |
| 18:13.39 | steliosk | until it enumerates the device, the device is supposed to use a few mil amps of power |
| 18:14.23 | steliosk | assuming that your device is bus powered you can use that to power-cycle it |
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| 20:19.14 | wmat | prpplague: where's Frisco, TX? |
| 20:19.35 | wmat | ah, suburb of Dallas, I see |
| 20:20.29 | prpplague | wmat: yea |
| 20:20.33 | prpplague | wmat: why? |
| 20:21.55 | wmat | a former co. I worked for was just purchased by another co. from there |
| 20:22.15 | wmat | skywire software |
| 20:23.08 | Dr{Who} | any uclib coders here? i am using uclib on x86 and isdigit(49) is returning 0 i an not 100% sure its not redefined incorrectly or not yet but i presume its uclib's actual function that is not working |
| 20:35.53 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: you wanna paste you code on pastebin.ca ? |
| 20:38.28 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: isdigit() seems to be working properly for me |
| 20:39.16 | prpplague | wmat: frisco is a pretty high dollar area iirc |
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| 20:42.06 | Dr{Who} | i guessing is a macro issue. the isdigit call is in lib/font/bitmap/bdfutils.c inside of X11R6.8.2 as donloaded by buildroot |
| 20:42.37 | Dr{Who} | the function is bdfIsInteger |
| 20:43.04 | prpplague | that would be my guess |
| 20:43.14 | Dr{Who} | the isdigit() call is returning a 0 when passed a valid digit value |
| 20:43.27 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: how is the digit passed? |
| 20:43.38 | Dr{Who} | i am trying to figure out how to determin the map of this call so i can know what is exactly called and debug futher. |
| 20:43.52 | Dr{Who} | i manualy added isdigit(49) to a debug printf |
| 20:43.55 | Dr{Who} | and it returned 0 |
| 20:43.56 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: can you paste just the line with the isdigit call? |
| 20:44.10 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: ahh |
| 20:44.12 | Dr{Who} | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.12 | Dr{Who} | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.12 | Dr{Who} | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.12 | Dr{Who} | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.23 | Dr{Who} | this has changed from stock code doign my debugging |
| 20:45.06 | prpplague | so isdigit returns a zero? |
| 20:45.09 | Dr{Who} | yeppers |
| 20:45.16 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: interesting |
| 20:45.22 | Dr{Who} | ya exactly what i said. |
| 20:45.45 | Dr{Who} | im trying to figure out now where to dig further. I am looking for the real isdigit() call in uclib to add some debugging |
| 20:45.50 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: what i would do is just add an old fashion ascii check |
| 20:45.58 | Dr{Who} | best i can tell i didnt see any macros in xorg code for this call |
| 20:46.26 | Dr{Who} | ya but if isdigit() is not workign i am sure my embeded system will have other issues : c ) |
| 20:46.40 | Dr{Who} | so i need to get to the bottom of this |
| 20:47.01 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: indeed, did you do a helloworld style app to test the actual isdigit call? |
| 20:47.05 | Dr{Who} | yep |
| 20:47.12 | Dr{Who} | but i did not run it under the cross comipler |
| 20:47.24 | Dr{Who} | that is probably going to happen next |
| 20:47.50 | Dr{Who} | any way to printf() the function pointer / mapping data for a function? |
| 20:48.18 | Dr{Who} | maybe that would help me find out what isdigit() is beign used maybe its one inside of uclib maybet its isnide of xorg's libs |
| 20:49.00 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: if it were me, i'd just do a grep on the source for isidigit |
| 20:49.35 | Dr{Who} | ya did that thats my current track looks like it is a bit obfuscated inside of uclib |
| 20:49.53 | Dr{Who} | will take some time to find the real function all the macros's used |
| 20:49.56 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: but no other calls inside xorg code? |
| 20:50.04 | Dr{Who} | not that i could find no |
| 20:50.55 | Dr{Who} | i see one inside of the free type lib but that is a ft_isdigit() |
| 20:54.26 | Dr{Who} | hmm seems out of the scope of the module i am working on but i found this one |
| 20:54.26 | Dr{Who} | programs/Xserver/include/xf86_libc.h:#define isdigit(i) xf86isdigit(i) |
| 20:54.40 | Dr{Who} | ill have to figure out what isdigit is in use uggg. |
| 20:55.11 | Dr{Who} | hehe well thats silly |
| 20:55.11 | Dr{Who} | int |
| 20:55.11 | Dr{Who} | xf86isdigit(int c) |
| 20:55.11 | Dr{Who} | { |
| 20:55.11 | Dr{Who} | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.12 | Dr{Who} | } |
| 20:55.54 | Dr{Who} | isdigit -> fx86 -> isdigit ugg not very efficient oh well |
| 20:58.23 | Dr{Who} | im going to comppile my test.c code with the cross compiler and see what it does |
| 21:04.27 | Dr{Who} | welp it works correclty under a normal cross compile |
| 21:04.36 | Dr{Who} | so it must be a bad macro someplace |
| 21:04.39 | Dr{Who} | crap. |
| 21:04.43 | Dr{Who} | this will be hard to find |
| 21:05.22 | Dr{Who} | would a define isdigit() _isdigit() take me back to the libc? |
| 21:05.24 | Dr{Who} | hmm |
| 21:09.43 | CosmicPe1guin | ugh |
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| 21:11.32 | prpplague | anyone know what proc the wskp100 phone is based on ? |
| 21:13.29 | prpplague | nm OMAP1701 |
| 21:15.17 | prpplague | cute phone |
| 21:16.08 | Dr{Who} | ya it is nice |
| 21:17.58 | Dr{Who} | looks like some quality issues when receiving calls though. |
| 21:18.15 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: hehe, i wouldn't be using it for calls really |
| 21:18.54 | Dr{Who} | ahh : c ) |
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| 21:31.12 | prpplague | ok, cheap fun hack for the day |
| 21:31.14 | prpplague | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CES10438 |
| 21:31.36 | prpplague | plus this |
| 21:31.37 | prpplague | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=ces11487 |
| 21:31.40 | prpplague | equals |
| 21:31.49 | prpplague | portable nintendo |
| 21:31.51 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 21:38.41 | prpplague | wonder what processor is inside this - http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CES11197 |
| 21:51.24 | ds2 | guess your wallet is thanking you for not working with driving distance of surplus computers? =) |
| 21:55.57 | chouimat | hehe |
| 21:56.32 | ds2 | i know my budget is so much better since they closed the retail store |
| 21:57.56 | prpplague | ds2: hehe |
| 21:58.04 | prpplague | ds2: bgmicro is within distance |
| 21:58.37 | prpplague | ds2: i have too many things to work on at the office these days |
| 21:58.44 | prpplague | ds2: but that would be a cute hack |
| 21:58.57 | prpplague | GPSFan: ping |
| 21:59.12 | ds2 | bgmicro is more component orient |
| 21:59.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: hammer boards will probably be shipping next thursday |
| 21:59.39 | prpplague | ds2: more of what i like |
| 21:59.47 | GPSFan | prpplague: pong, that's good to hear!! |
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| 22:00.24 | prpplague | GPSFan: the sledge hammer board is out for assembly, so that will follow up shortly afterwards |
| 22:00.25 | ds2 | their website is relatively stagnant compared to places like geeks.com |
| 22:01.18 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:01.28 | prpplague | GPSFan: well i have 6 boards to send out |
| 22:01.56 | GPSFan | prpplague: 6 hammers? |
| 22:02.18 | prpplague | GPSFan: 6 allocated for "docs for hardware" |
| 22:02.28 | GPSFan | prpplague: hammer lager |
| 22:02.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe |
| 22:03.01 | prpplague | GPSFan: we have 100 rev1 boards ready |
| 22:03.46 | prpplague | GPSFan: probably i have is all the s3c2410 devrs are busy on other projects |
| 22:05.01 | prpplague | GPSFan: lets see, g1powermac has his name in, yours is in, wmat is in |
| 22:05.25 | prpplague | wmat: you still in for the hammer docs-for-hardware ? |
| 22:05.47 | GPSFan | prpplague: how about TomW? |
| 22:05.54 | ds2 | how long before the first errata sheet gets published? ;) |
| 22:07.09 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, tomw has alot of experience, but i think he's pretty swamped |
| 22:08.03 | Dr{Who} | prpplague embeded board? details..plz |
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| 22:08.40 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Board |
| 22:10.38 | Dr{Who} | nice. unit costs? |
| 22:10.56 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: qty1 $159.00 USD |
| 22:11.22 | Dr{Who} | any status on java port to arm? |
| 22:11.31 | ds2 | prpplague: any decisions/updates on the input voltage enhancement request? |
| 22:11.35 | prpplague | ~lart Dr{Who} |
| 22:11.35 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on Dr{Who}'s head |
| 22:11.53 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: who uses java on an embedded device? |
| 22:11.56 | ds2 | does that samsung do jazelle? |
| 22:12.08 | prpplague | ds2: actually the s3c2440 does |
| 22:12.15 | Dr{Who} | i know sun announced the source would be out and such. But building it would be a bugger |
| 22:12.33 | Dr{Who} | i have lots of people who need jvm's on there arm embeded systems |
| 22:12.35 | ds2 | oh |
| 22:13.27 | prpplague | ds2: yea, a different version of the hammer will be low voltage sourced design to run on two AA's |
| 22:13.48 | ds2 | prpplague: any ETA on that? |
| 22:14.01 | prpplague | ds2: design is done |
| 22:14.23 | prpplague | ds2: just waiting on the initial release of the hammer board to see how well it sells |
| 22:14.34 | Exiles | Sup |
| 22:14.56 | prpplague | Exiles: interested in a "docs-for-hardware" beta testing? |
| 22:14.59 | Dr{Who} | ya the atmel boards i use are very flexible on input power from 3-12v's is very common so you can use almost any power supply |
| 22:15.06 | ds2 | prpplague: what's thebacklog so far? |
| 22:15.08 | Exiles | Mhmm, beta testing |
| 22:15.28 | prpplague | ds2: i can't discuss that |
| 22:15.32 | Exiles | please tell me more |
| 22:15.41 | prpplague | Exiles http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Board |
| 22:16.13 | ds2 | prpplague: maybe that's the wrong question.. more of what I want to know is if I order one Thu, do I have a chance of getting it or do I have to wait for another build |
| 22:16.33 | ds2 | it sounds like everything is spoken for |
| 22:16.35 | prpplague | ds2: thursday shipments are for the beta crowd |
| 22:16.44 | GPSFan | prpplague: do you have the hammer running with a ENC28J60-H yet? |
| 22:16.47 | ds2 | ah gotcha |
| 22:17.00 | prpplague | ds2: they wont go on sale untill sep 1st |
| 22:17.16 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, ugly ugly ugly ugly code |
| 22:17.24 | ds2 | prpplague: any interest in trading an implementation + details for the USB switcher thing I was talking about? |
| 22:17.26 | Dr{Who} | i would say my company would like to get one to play with prp. send details to general@support.nutech.com if you dont mind include a note that its for raven and sean embeded systems group. |
| 22:17.26 | GPSFan | ;>( |
| 22:17.28 | prpplague | GPSFan: it needs to be intergrated with the 2.6 spi subsystem |
| 22:17.32 | Exiles | okay, and what all do you need done? |
| 22:18.12 | GPSFan | rats... sparkfun is out, and olimex is on vacation... |
| 22:18.25 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: we are really doing just beta at the momment |
| 22:18.36 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: but i'll make a note of it |
| 22:18.51 | prpplague | Exiles: we are looking for howto's and projects |
| 22:19.02 | Exiles | okay |
| 22:19.13 | prpplague | Exiles: i.e. in the case of GPSFan "how to get the enc28j60 working on the Hammer" |
| 22:19.45 | Exiles | well, I'm Intrested as I've never worked with any arm systems before. |
| 22:19.49 | Dr{Who} | ok beta is fine we are evaluating several embeded boards this looks like a good candidate. |
| 22:20.03 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: what kind of application are you looking at? |
| 22:20.33 | prpplague | Exiles: ahh |
| 22:20.50 | Dr{Who} | our biggest problem so far has been sourcing what we find. We end up with dead ends on some of the boards that are made over seas and cant even get them so my biggest concern is when we do need them that we can get them and fast. |
| 22:21.02 | Dr{Who} | embeded systems for production lines |
| 22:21.12 | prpplague | Exiles: send me an email to danders@amltd.com with your contact info, shipping info, and some description of your embedded background |
| 22:21.35 | prpplague | Dr{Who}: yea, btdt, thats why we make our own |
| 22:21.50 | Dr{Who} | ok good so you know my pain : c ) |
| 22:21.56 | prpplague | indeed |
| 22:22.03 | Dr{Who} | bblater have to do some shopping with the kid.. |
| 22:23.32 | prpplague | later folks |
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