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| 12:35.22 | Crofton|home | scox down 52% pre-market |
| 12:36.35 | Crofton|home | they lost a court ruling |
| 12:37.01 | Crofton|home | http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201400295 |
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| 12:40.46 | Crofton|home | prpplague, check out scox pre-market! |
| 12:42.07 | prpplague | Crofton|home: wow $1.00 eh? |
| 12:42.12 | prpplague | wonder whats up |
| 12:42.28 | Crofton|home | they lost a court case |
| 12:42.38 | Crofton|home | they do not own the unix copyrights |
| 12:42.43 | prpplague | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070810165237718 |
| 12:42.47 | prpplague | woot |
| 12:42.54 | Crofton|home | w00t |
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| 12:46.48 | prpplague | Crofton|home: wonder how low the stock will go today? |
| 12:47.05 | Crofton|home | dunno |
| 12:47.18 | Crofton|home | I would tend to guess not much below pre-market? |
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| 13:36.23 | Crofton|home | logging in the brokerage accoutn |
| 13:37.24 | Crofton|home | opening at 0.40 |
| 13:41.08 | prpplague | holy cow |
| 13:41.28 | prpplague | Crofton|home: i guess darl is wondering what he will be doing soon |
| 13:41.40 | Crofton|home | heh |
| 13:41.52 | Crofton|home | running from the lynch mob |
| 13:42.03 | prpplague | Crofton|home: i hope the SEC does an investigation |
| 13:43.21 | prpplague | Crofton|home: looks like they are dumping shares |
| 13:44.09 | Crofton|home | at this point, I suspect there are speculators who ahd taken a chance on a favourable result |
| 13:44.13 | Crofton|home | dumping |
| 13:44.18 | Crofton|home | and no one buyinh |
| 13:55.30 | prpplague | Crofton|home: nasdaq.com is report last sale at $0.35 |
| 13:55.36 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 13:56.11 | Crofton|home | burn baby burn |
| 13:56.55 | agaffney | heh |
| 13:57.12 | agaffney | err, pour |
| 13:57.46 | agaffney | stupid homophones |
| 14:03.15 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 14:03.24 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:03.29 | prpplague | 600k so far |
| 14:03.42 | prpplague | my guess is it will hit about 3m today |
| 14:05.55 | prpplague | my guess is it will hit about 3m today |
| 14:05.57 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 14:06.07 | prpplague | seems to be actually going up |
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| 14:10.23 | prpplague | seems to be actually going up |
| 14:10.24 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 14:10.26 | prpplague | oops |
| 14:21.41 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 14:21.50 | prpplague | wheeee |
| 14:21.53 | prpplague | look at it go |
| 14:27.11 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
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| 14:51.49 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:51.52 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 14:52.00 | chouimat | weeeeee |
| 14:55.35 | chouimat | ~quote scox |
| 14:56.43 | prpplague | what i don't get is who the hell is buying? |
| 14:57.01 | chouimat | prpplague: probably novell or ibm :) |
| 14:57.11 | prpplague | why would someone buy shares in a sinking ship? |
| 14:57.26 | chouimat | prpplague: because they are cheap |
| 14:57.30 | agaffney | so they can own the wreckage? |
| 14:59.44 | chouimat | http://userfriendly.org |
| 15:01.36 | agaffney | hahahahahaha |
| 15:02.00 | prpplague | chouimat: i don't believe either novell or ibm would purchase scox |
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| 15:02.21 | prpplague | chouimat: #1 scox owes money to novell, why pay for something you'd be getting anyway |
| 15:02.51 | prpplague | chouimat: #2 ibm would want to purchase scox for the fact that it has nothing of value as it all belongs to novell |
| 15:03.05 | chouimat | prpplague: personally I don't care who buy what ... while I didn't have my coffee |
| 15:03.33 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:03.37 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 15:05.03 | chouimat | prpplague: I just want they cought the moron who seem to think that pulling the fire alarm will give him candies ... |
| 15:05.15 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 15:06.15 | chouimat | prpplague: happened again last night |
| 15:10.02 | prpplague | someone dumbed 235k shares |
| 15:10.06 | prpplague | dumped |
| 15:13.02 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 15:15.25 | CosmicPenguin | SUrprised they are finding buyers even at .45 |
| 15:15.32 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 15:15.37 | CosmicPenguin | That must be about what the building is worth.. :) |
| 15:16.44 | CosmicPenguin | 21.44M shares * .45 ~6.9 mil |
| 15:16.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorry 9.6 mil |
| 15:16.59 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:17.20 | CosmicPenguin | thats probably about right |
| 15:17.27 | prpplague | my interest is still that the SEC investigate pump-n-dump going on inside scox |
| 15:17.44 | CosmicPenguin | maybe a little lower - I don't know how much capital they still have laying around |
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| 15:17.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: plus i'm guessing from what i read that scox owes novell in the ranger of about 20mil |
| 15:18.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and i suspect that ibm is going to press for legal fees |
| 15:18.43 | Crofton | I suspect people are buying based on what they thinnk the buyout price will be |
| 15:19.10 | CosmicPenguin | If there is to be a byout |
| 15:19.13 | Crofton | Maybe I should place a limit order at 10 cents |
| 15:19.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: because they could make a case that scox should have done their homework prior to the case |
| 15:19.31 | CosmicPenguin | What do you get for your 9.6 mil? |
| 15:19.41 | Crofton | That is the question |
| 15:19.57 | Crofton | I am sure that the people buying have done some math |
| 15:20.26 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder how much cash they have |
| 15:20.48 | prpplague | i'm looking forward to a liquidation sale similiar to enron where people are walking out with chairs and such |
| 15:21.10 | CosmicPenguin | There's not that many people left |
| 15:21.23 | prpplague | i think i'd buy a plane ticket to slc just to be there |
| 15:21.33 | CosmicPenguin | no |
| 15:21.36 | CosmicPenguin | there is never a reason tobe in Provo |
| 15:21.37 | CosmicPenguin | never |
| 15:22.22 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:26.24 | chouimat | ~quote scox |
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| 15:27.32 | chouimat | prpplague: if you go there can you bring me a desk or something ;) |
| 15:28.18 | T0mW | LOL, SCOX trading at $0.4582, the wankers |
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| 15:28.40 | T0mW | value is prolly more like $0.04582 |
| 15:29.09 | T0mW | chouimat: you going to the garage sale in Utah ? |
| 15:30.34 | chouimat | T0mW: nah ... I believe in booze, caffeine and monogamy |
| 15:30.48 | T0mW | chouimat: LOL |
| 15:31.05 | CosmicPenguin | Hear, hear |
| 15:31.23 | T0mW | somehow, I just cannot equate booze == monogamy |
| 15:33.07 | CosmicPenguin | Never be sorry for quoting Homer Simpson |
| 15:34.21 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: this was for my mother ... I hate surprise visits :( |
| 15:42.10 | chouimat|busy | ~quote scox |
| 15:43.24 | agaffney | down, down, down... |
| 15:43.56 | chouimat|busy | .... with the ship |
| 15:45.35 | agaffney | heh |
| 15:45.44 | CosmicPenguin | IBM is up 1.26 too |
| 15:47.21 | chouimat|busy | ~quote novl |
| 15:47.31 | CosmicPenguin | UP .32 cents |
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| 15:47.51 | CosmicPenguin | I'm surprised they haven't halted trading on SCOX yet |
| 15:49.47 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: they won't |
| 15:50.28 | CosmicPenguin | I guess not - they probably don't care |
| 15:50.29 | T0mW | They live in a different reality and "people just don't understand" |
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| 16:04.10 | T0mW | heh, sell SCOX buy IBM |
| 16:04.35 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 16:04.56 | prpplague | at this rate they will be close to 5mil by close |
| 16:05.47 | T0mW | let us do the math, If I sell 1000 shares of SCOX, I can purchase 4 shares of IBM, hmmmm |
| 16:08.09 | chouimat|busy | T0mW: someone who have faith in them and in the market ? |
| 16:08.24 | T0mW | God? Walt Disney? |
| 16:08.44 | chouimat|busy | T0mW: nah Karl Rove :) |
| 16:08.51 | T0mW | heh |
| 16:15.51 | CosmicPenguin | he need something to do |
| 16:16.29 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: its like we were saying before - there gets a point where the value of the company approaches the hard assets they have |
| 16:16.49 | CosmicPenguin | all those desks and chairs and computers and filiing cabinets have to be wroth something |
| 16:16.49 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: paper in the copy machine, etc? |
| 16:17.04 | chouimat|busy | T0mW: more like the copy machine |
| 16:17.16 | T0mW | yes |
| 16:17.48 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: project I am on now is porting pascal code from SCO ---> Linux |
| 16:18.19 | T0mW | so, I would imagine others will / are doing the same. |
| 16:19.11 | chouimat|busy | hmmm pascal |
| 16:20.23 | T0mW | chouimat|busy: yeah, they have a ton of it |
| 16:20.30 | CosmicPenguin | pascal and linux - thats a healthy mix of the old skool and the new |
| 16:21.10 | chouimat|busy | T0mW: using freepascal? |
| 16:21.16 | T0mW | yeah |
| 16:22.22 | T0mW | right now, I have some issues with how FPC mangles names. Still thinking on how to resolve it, maybe modify the compiler itself perhaps. |
| 16:23.59 | chouimat|busy | T0mW: I had once to port a modula3 systems to c++ ... I still wonder why they wanted the rewrite the modula-3 code was a charm to work with ... but they had problem to find people who knew modula-3 and/or wiling to learn it |
| 16:24.20 | T0mW | chouimat|busy: exactly, most people don't know pascal |
| 16:24.38 | CosmicPenguin | some of us have forgotten it |
| 16:25.08 | chouimat|busy | T0mW: you know c/c++ or any language and you can get a good grasp of pascal in a week or 2 ... |
| 16:25.33 | T0mW | chouimat|busy: this is basically true. |
| 16:25.46 | T0mW | chouimat|busy: if you know C then you know perl |
| 16:26.05 | T0mW | ... and bash |
| 16:27.39 | chouimat|busy | T0mW: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070806 |
| 16:30.03 | T0mW | chouimat|busy: LOL |
| 16:31.22 | CosmicPenguin | perl is more fun when its unreadable |
| 16:31.41 | CosmicPenguin | even when you are doing something simple like catting a file, you seem like a big man |
| 16:36.47 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 16:53.03 | chouimat|busy | ~quote scox |
| 17:03.33 | Crofton|work | ~quote scox |
| 17:04.32 | agaffney | no! back down! |
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| 17:58.01 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 17:59.12 | chouimat|busy | ~quote novl |
| 18:00.18 | Crofton | crazy volume on scox |
| 18:00.32 | chouimat|busy | ~quote ibm |
| 18:00.43 | Crofton | 3.7M of 21.4 M shares |
| 18:06.33 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 18:06.54 | prpplague | looks like its going be close to 6m trades today |
| 18:08.31 | prpplague | i doubt scox can arrange a stock pump up to avoid delisting now |
| 18:11.17 | Crofton|laptop | ~quote scox |
| 18:16.50 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 18:16.57 | prpplague | i wonder who is purchasing |
| 18:30.10 | CosmicPenguin | whoever thinks the company is worth 8 or 9 mnil |
| 18:34.21 | chouimat|busy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.27 | chouimat|busy | cool |
| 18:36.49 | Crofton|laptop | ~quote scox |
| 18:37.26 | agaffney | like a rock.... |
| 18:37.31 | agaffney | dropping, that is :P |
| 18:46.23 | agaffney | ~quote scox |
| 18:46.31 | agaffney | hey, it can't do that |
| 18:55.02 | prpplague | holy cow |
| 18:55.27 | ds2 | you been relocated to Bangalore? =) |
| 18:55.58 | prpplague | ds2: ? |
| 18:56.14 | ds2 | isn't that one of the places in the world that cows are holy? ;) |
| 18:56.27 | ds2 | figuring the work you do and the cows... |
| 18:56.48 | prpplague | ds2: hehe, no, just a saying |
| 18:57.55 | prpplague | ds2: after spending years getting my wife's greencard i seriously doubt we'd be interested in leaving the country for anywhere, much less india |
| 18:58.32 | ds2 | prpplague: =) |
| 18:59.02 | prpplague | wow someone unloaded 543k shares at once |
| 19:02.13 | chouimat|busy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.30 | prpplague | any know a good example of a nice buzzer interface in linux? |
| 19:04.43 | prpplague | i.e. pwm to piezzo |
| 19:05.29 | prpplague | i was thinking a /proc entry where you could do "echo x,y" where x is the tone, and y the duration |
| 19:05.50 | prpplague | Exiles: any thoughts on that? |
| 19:05.53 | prpplague | GPSFan: or you? |
| 19:13.53 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 19:14.04 | prpplague | i figured i'd get some good flame on that |
| 19:16.07 | chouimat|busy | :) |
| 19:26.51 | ds2 | seem to recall there might be something like that on the OMAPs |
| 19:28.29 | CosmicPenguin | http://coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070813/UPDATES01/70813008 |
| 19:28.33 | CosmicPenguin | That happened right outside |
| 19:29.09 | CosmicPenguin | The bitch of it is that they are doing construction, so our buliding was down to one entrance, and thats the road where the explosion happened |
| 19:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | We were stuck with no way out for a while |
| 19:29.40 | chouimat|busy | ouch |
| 19:29.45 | ds2 | windows!! |
| 19:29.59 | ds2 | it may actually be good for something ;) |
| 19:30.45 | chouimat|busy | CosmicPenguin: the guy was lucky |
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| 19:35.07 | ds2 | prpplague: next time you are at bgmicro, give them a good *twawp* for sending out HTML newsletters @#%$!@#@$%@#$ |
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| 19:49.06 | agaffney | yeah, I got one of those this morning |
| 19:49.13 | agaffney | I didn't see an unsub link, though |
| 19:49.17 | agaffney | I don't want their damn newsletters |
| 19:49.26 | agaffney | all I've ever bought from them was the walnut board |
| 19:49.33 | agaffney | and I'll probably never buy anything else |
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| 20:15.28 | Crofton|laptop | ~quote scox |
| 20:17.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:18.36 | prpplague | almost 6m trades |
| 20:23.43 | CosmicPenguin | Looks like the market has agreeed that ~.45 is the right price |
| 20:25.33 | prpplague | yea for now |
| 20:25.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i suspect that after a few more items get cleared, it will be sub $0.20 |
| 20:26.11 | CosmicPenguin | AT this point, it really depends on how much the company is really worth |
| 20:26.35 | prpplague | wow |
| 20:26.42 | CosmicPenguin | Because thats the only way the stock holders are going to get value from it |
| 20:26.51 | prpplague | there is rumors that sco is making a major announce in 30 minutes |
| 20:30.50 | prpplague | interesting |
| 20:31.18 | Exiles | hmmmm |
| 20:31.33 | Exiles | well, considering sco dosn't own much of anything anymore |
| 20:54.54 | Crofton|laptop | prpplague, where do you hear this? |
| 20:58.21 | prpplague | Crofton|laptop: just lots of rumors on both the google and yahoo forums |
| 20:58.27 | Crofton|laptop | ah |
| 20:58.36 | prpplague | Crofton|laptop: nothing substantual |
| 20:59.15 | Crofton|laptop | maybe they figured out a way to get the stake out |
| 20:59.35 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:23.14 | GPSFan | prpplague: sorry no. IIRC there was a pwm speaker driver a long time ago, but don't know if it is even still maintained any more. |
| 21:23.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, fucntionality wise, i have all of that working |
| 21:23.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: mainly just curious about some easy to use interface for low tech userland stuff |
| 21:24.17 | GPSFan | prpplague: a /proc interface would be a nice touch for quick reaction prototyping. |
| 21:24.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, i've been talking to Exiles about it |
| 21:24.54 | GPSFan | prpplague: btw, what's the latest on the hammer? I got my ethernet board the other day. |
| 21:25.04 | prpplague | GPSFan: i think i'm going to go for something like this: echo x,y,x > /proc/driver/hammer-buzzer |
| 21:25.25 | prpplague | GPSFan: where x is the duration, y is the tone, and z is the number of times |
| 21:25.34 | Exiles | GPSFan, I have alot of those ENJ chips laying around here. |
| 21:25.38 | GPSFan | what about volume?\ |
| 21:25.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: was out for three days last week, so i was behind |
| 21:25.46 | prpplague | GPSFan: probably be shipped on wed. |
| 21:26.29 | GPSFan | 's ok, no rush... hope your tooth stuff is better... |
| 21:26.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: no real volume control on the buzzer |
| 21:27.27 | GPSFan | but if you had a volume field, another device that did have the volume function would be able to use it (in a future incarnation) |
| 21:27.43 | Exiles | digital POT :) |
| 21:28.21 | Exiles | but at that point, you might aswell put an audio codec chip on there. |
| 21:28.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, this was mainly to give some features for the carrier board that will ship with the kit |
| 21:29.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: another version of the board will have a pwm audio filter, i.e. to play wav's |
| 21:30.02 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 21:30.07 | prpplague | GPSFan: but that will be handled with the normal audio controls |
| 21:30.47 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 21:30.58 | GPSFan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.37 | ds2 | full ASLA suport? ;) |
| 22:01.27 | prpplague | jeeze jeeze jeeze |
| 22:01.40 | prpplague | the US immigration system is totally broken |
| 22:02.09 | prpplague | here this guy in newark had 2 prior arrests and was illegally in the US and they did nothing |
| 22:02.37 | prpplague | yet, they give people like my wife absolute hell when doing the right thing and coming to the US legally |
| 22:03.35 | prpplague | i personally feel he shouldn't have a trial, straight to the gallows |
| 22:08.40 | Exiles | yeah |
| 22:08.44 | Exiles | it's fscked up |
| 22:09.19 | Exiles | you know, I agree let your wife in |
| 22:09.46 | Exiles | all these mexicans come up illegally and live off our taxes for free |
| 22:09.58 | Exiles | but someone applies though the system and gets shit |
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| 22:18.07 | prpplague | woah, blood is in the water, all news groups are reporting that sco is going to declare bankruptcy |
| 22:18.33 | ds2 | WHAT?!!?!? no fair |
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| 22:28.37 | g1powermac | no cookies for you! |
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| 22:48.11 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 22:49.34 | CosmicPenguin | url? |
| 22:54.03 | MonMotha | gah, stupid overly dense BGAs |
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| 23:16.39 | MonMotha | well, the issue here isn't necessarily the sheer number of pads, but the density |
| 23:16.54 | MonMotha | there's no middle cutout for power related passives, and it's a 0.4mm pitch |
| 23:16.59 | MonMotha | 324 pads |
| 23:17.12 | MonMotha | bringing that out is HARD |
| 23:17.46 | Exiles | multi layer pcb needed |
| 23:19.00 | MonMotha | no kidding |
| 23:19.08 | MonMotha | 6 looks to be the minimum for this package |
| 23:19.46 | MonMotha | doesn't help that I'm having to stick to 20mil vias (10mil drill) |
| 23:19.57 | MonMotha | I'm down to 6/5 trace/space (so I'll get charged for 5/5) |
| 23:44.00 | g1powermac | anyone know of any tutorials about making custom linux images for embedded devices? |
| 23:44.47 | g1powermac | there's already been some hacking on the phone: http://spritesmods.com/?art=wskpsip |
| 23:44.59 | g1powermac | which looks quite cool, but I'd like to got a bit further with it |
| 23:45.13 | agaffney | you want a generic tutorial for building a linux image for an embedded device? :P |
| 23:45.18 | Crofton|home | g1powermac, look at www.openemebedded.org |
| 23:45.22 | agaffney | it doesn't really work that way :) |
| 23:46.03 | g1powermac | agaffney, heh, figured that, but any info would help :-) |
| 23:46.27 | g1powermac | Crofton|home, interesting |
| 23:53.34 | g1powermac | only big problem about that phone atm is that it looks like there aren't any open source drivers for the wifi module in it |
| 23:54.19 | g1powermac | not sure how in the world I'm going to get around that problem \ |