| 00:04.21 | Crofton|home | can you extract the required binary bits? |
| 00:05.03 | g1powermac_AFK | Crofton|home, not sure, as I don't have the phone yet |
| 00:05.11 | g1powermac_AFK | bbiab |
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| 02:01.28 | g1powermac_PB | woohoo |
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| 13:04.57 | g1powermac_PB | hey prpplague |
| 13:05.37 | g1powermac_PB | been waiting for you to arrive :-) |
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| 13:06.14 | g1powermac_PB | I've been looking at the SMC WSKP100G phone, especially the wireless chip in the phone |
| 13:07.02 | g1powermac_PB | the site you showed me about the hacking of the phone said the wireless driver in it was proprietary, which would cause a bit of issues with doing a custom linux |
| 13:07.31 | g1powermac_PB | however, I found out the chip in it is the Marvell 88W8385 |
| 13:07.56 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: sdio ? |
| 13:08.00 | g1powermac_PB | and noticed you've done some stuff with drivers for that chip |
| 13:08.02 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: or cf? |
| 13:08.11 | g1powermac_PB | was wondering what the status of the driver |
| 13:08.12 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: yea still working on it |
| 13:08.37 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: yea, not sure if its sdio or cf, as I don't have the phone to see the connections |
| 13:08.40 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: an open source driver for the cf and sdio is in the works and should be ready for use within a few weeks |
| 13:08.56 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: where did you see that it was 88w8385 based? |
| 13:08.58 | g1powermac_PB | http://wiki.gpl-devices.org/index.php/SMC_WSKP100G#Serial_Console |
| 13:09.16 | g1powermac_PB | http://wiki.gpl-devices.org/index.php/SMC_WSKP100G |
| 13:11.06 | prpplague | gspi8835_io: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. |
| 13:11.06 | prpplague | gspi8835_io: falsely claims to have parameter clkdiv |
| 13:11.11 | prpplague | spi based |
| 13:12.01 | g1powermac_PB | ahh, k |
| 13:12.09 | prpplague | that must be a typo though |
| 13:12.19 | prpplague | i don't beliee there is a 8835 chip |
| 13:12.27 | g1powermac_PB | hmm |
| 13:13.41 | g1powermac_PB | yea, that is a bit odd |
| 13:13.44 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: the current driver doesn't have a gspi interface, but the driver is generic enough to support different interfaces, i.e. it already supports usb,sdio, and cf |
| 13:15.08 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: k, with a little help, I might be able to hack the gspi interface into the driver |
| 13:15.23 | g1powermac_PB | unless you guys were already planning it |
| 13:16.07 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: i hadn't planned on it right away, but gspi support is a logical extension of the driver to support all the interfaces on the 8385 |
| 13:16.36 | g1powermac_PB | prpplague: would you happen to have a datasheet of the chip? |
| 13:17.06 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: its covered under NDA |
| 13:17.14 | g1powermac_PB | hmmm |
| 13:17.29 | g1powermac_PB | that makes it a bit hard to hack the driver for gspi support. . . |
| 13:17.38 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: not really |
| 13:17.52 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: there are other documents available that describe the gspi interface |
| 13:18.00 | g1powermac_PB | ok |
| 13:18.08 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: check the libertas-dev mailing list archive |
| 13:18.20 | g1powermac_PB | yea, I'm going to |
| 13:18.34 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: a rep from marvell named ronak posted a api guide |
| 13:18.42 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: (by mistake) |
| 13:18.46 | g1powermac_PB | hah |
| 13:18.48 | g1powermac_PB | awesome |
| 13:19.31 | g1powermac_PB | well, I'm gonna get one of the phones and rip it apart try my hand at some embedded linux hacking :-) |
| 13:19.40 | g1powermac_PB | even though I have no clue what I'm doing, it should be fun :-) |
| 13:22.53 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: ok well, start an account on elinux.org |
| 13:22.59 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: document your work there |
| 13:23.09 | prpplague | g1powermac_PB: take some pictures |
| 13:23.45 | g1powermac_PB | k |
| 13:24.23 | g1powermac_PB | of course, I'll need a bit of handholding to get the image setup first :-) |
| 13:24.29 | g1powermac_PB | the *linux image |
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| 13:42.19 | g1powermac_PB | bbiab |
| 14:02.57 | prpplague | hmm |
| 14:03.11 | prpplague | a small push button driver, where to put that in the kernel |
| 14:03.25 | prpplague | char devices? or maybe under input/misc ? |
| 14:07.38 | g1powermac | http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/1067 |
| 14:07.49 | g1powermac | I prolly can run that chip right off the power from the phone |
| 14:10.56 | Crofton|home | ~quote scox |
| 14:11.17 | Crofton|home | thats another 10% |
| 14:11.39 | g1powermac | heh, really, I'm surprised its even at $0.40 |
| 14:13.29 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:13.38 | g1powermac | morning chouimat |
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| 14:39.13 | T0mW | So, what is the topic for today? |
| 14:39.35 | Crofton|home | scox |
| 14:39.53 | T0mW | again!? argh! |
| 14:39.56 | T0mW | ;-/ |
| 14:40.01 | agaffney | heh |
| 14:40.07 | Crofton|home | ~quote scox |
| 14:40.18 | prpplague | T0mW: hey, you got time to tinker with the Hammer board? |
| 14:40.27 | T0mW | prpplague: yes, I do |
| 14:40.47 | T0mW | prpplague: you gonna sell me one? |
| 14:40.53 | prpplague | T0mW: you willing to do wiki page entries and such? |
| 14:41.07 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, I can do that |
| 14:41.44 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, i mean for elinux.org |
| 14:41.58 | T0mW | prpplague: I knew that |
| 14:42.23 | T0mW | prpplague: I was just saying that documentation and me are now foriegn to each other. |
| 14:42.29 | T0mW | s/now/not |
| 14:42.44 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:42.46 | g1powermac | prpplague, also found the specific kernels for the phone: http://www.muru.com/linux/omap/ |
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| 14:43.50 | g1powermac | prpplague, smc actually does offer source code for the kernel running in the phone, but it is only 2.6.9 |
| 14:44.14 | chouimat | could be worse |
| 14:44.24 | g1powermac | and from what I've read, it isn't the exact kernel in the phone |
| 14:45.33 | prpplague | g1powermac: interesting |
| 14:46.23 | g1powermac | building the omap kernel with a generic board option should give me something |
| 14:46.46 | g1powermac | hopefully get it to boot under the newer kernel |
| 14:48.26 | prpplague | g1powermac: you will need to match the machine number in the bootloader |
| 14:50.11 | chouimat | http://userfriendly.org |
| 14:50.13 | chouimat | hehe |
| 14:50.42 | g1powermac | prpplague, hmm, how would that be done? |
| 14:51.47 | T0mW | g1powermac: you pass it in a register when booting the kernel |
| 14:52.09 | T0mW | g1powermac: or, you can hardware it in the kernel bootup code |
| 14:52.19 | T0mW | s/hardware/hardwire |
| 14:53.55 | g1powermac | hmm |
| 14:54.47 | agaffney | chouimat: I liked yesterday's a lot better :P |
| 14:55.11 | g1powermac | did ya guys see today's ubersoft.net comic? |
| 14:55.42 | chouimat | agaffney: this one just prove the guy wanted a new house :) |
| 15:05.12 | g1powermac | prpplague, interesting, was looking through that dmesg and found the machine number in the present kernel is referring to the board as a TI OMAP1710 H3 board |
| 15:06.40 | g1powermac | which just seems a bit odd to me |
| 15:07.03 | g1powermac | as the H3 is suppose to be a sample development board |
| 15:07.36 | g1powermac | heck, there is even a tutorial setting one up with a linux install: http://linux.omap.com/pub/documentation/omap_1710v1.4.txt |
| 15:12.28 | prpplague | g1powermac: yea that's fairly common with vendors who aren't linux savy |
| 15:12.37 | prpplague | g1powermac: they tend not to register a new machine number |
| 15:12.42 | prpplague | g1powermac: for several reasons |
| 15:13.05 | prpplague | g1powermac: 1) since their board is similiar to the reference design they stick with the reference design machine number |
| 15:13.17 | prpplague | g1powermac: 2) they usually don't know how to register a new machine number |
| 15:13.54 | prpplague | g1powermac: 3) registering a new machine number requires you post some info such as the machine name and manufacturer, which alot of companies don't want to do, |
| 15:15.09 | g1powermac | k |
| 15:15.39 | prpplague | g1powermac: i'm surprised no one in the OSS comunity has registered a new number |
| 15:16.12 | g1powermac | prpplague, there's only been a few who have done any real hacking on this phone |
| 15:18.42 | g1powermac | prpplague, the question is, by them doing that, is it going to make this project any harder. . . |
| 15:20.10 | prpplague | g1powermac: no |
| 15:20.24 | g1powermac | k, thats good :-) |
| 15:22.34 | g1powermac | prpplague, the uname -a done on the board provides some even more interesting clues |
| 15:22.45 | g1powermac | Hardware : TI OMAP1710 H3 board |
| 15:22.45 | g1powermac | Revision : 17100016 |
| 15:22.45 | g1powermac | Serial : 033302008b5f702f |
| 15:22.47 | chouimat | finaly |
| 15:33.53 | prpplague | i must be doing something wrong on handling irqs, because i'm having the same problem with a different irq |
| 15:34.04 | prpplague | getting 3 times as many irqs as i would expect |
| 16:44.16 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 16:44.26 | prpplague | not as much volume today |
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| 17:49.12 | chouimat|happy | ~quote scox |
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| 17:51.43 | Crofton|home | ~quote scox |
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| 18:19.49 | chouimat|happy | ~quote scox |
| 18:21.10 | Exiles | soon the stiovck holders will owe sco money, lol |
| 18:23.19 | Crofton|home | ~quote scox |
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| 20:30.43 | Crofton | ~quote scox |
| 20:53.57 | g1powermac | hmm, it went up a bit |
| 21:05.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: ping |
| 21:06.28 | GPSFan | prpplague: pong |
| 21:07.22 | prpplague | GPSFan: the spi mmc driver for the zipit, what kind of performance are you getting with it? |
| 21:07.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'm thinking of using it with the hammer instead of the mainline mmc driver, just because of the overhead |
| 21:16.43 | chouimat|happy | lalala lalala |
| 21:16.59 | GPSFan | prpplague: there are 2 versions, the original, and the multi-block version (which is faster, but not supported by all cards). The latest automagically figures out if the card has multi-block support and uses it if it can. the performance wasn't quite abismal ;>) since it's a bit-banger. |
| 21:17.51 | GPSFan | prpplague: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/message/1040 |
| 21:18.07 | prpplague | GPSFan: mmc-multi.tar.gz is what i got from the yahoo group |
| 21:18.47 | prpplague | GPSFan: so you were pretty happy with it? |
| 21:18.57 | prpplague | GPSFan: should run much better with a true spi controller |
| 21:19.21 | prpplague | GPSFan: oh, i hadn't looked, is that for a 2.4 kernel? |
| 21:19.27 | GPSFan | yeah, that's from jan 2006, let me look at my source tree, I don't think there were any changes since then. |
| 21:19.43 | GPSFan | 2.4 is all ther is/was for the zipit. |
| 21:20.02 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 21:20.10 | prpplague | GPSFan: i might try that for a 2.6 |
| 21:20.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: shouldn't be that much difference |
| 21:20.28 | jbevren | prpplague: How goes the hammer? |
| 21:20.35 | prpplague | jbevren: good |
| 21:20.45 | prpplague | jbevren: i was delayed last week with a tooth problem |
| 21:20.53 | prpplague | jbevren: should be ready to ship later this week |
| 21:21.19 | prpplague | jbevren: just trying to decide on a method for the sd/mmc via spi |
| 21:21.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: that driver doesn't support hot pluggin right? |
| 21:21.59 | jbevren | the hammer has SPI pins extended doesnt it? |
| 21:22.02 | GPSFan | prpplague: correct. |
| 21:24.30 | GPSFan | prpplague: I thought there was already a driver for the mmc slot on the 240x. |
| 21:24.56 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea for the sdi controller |
| 21:25.04 | prpplague | GPSFan: but not for just a spi interface |
| 21:25.30 | GPSFan | ah, |
| 21:25.37 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, two spi |
| 21:25.49 | prpplague | jbevren: one is being used for the sd/mmc slot on the carrier board |
| 21:25.58 | prpplague | jbevren: the other is available for standard usage |
| 21:30.15 | jbevren | ahh |
| 21:30.31 | jbevren | so your plan is to use that? I was confused into suspecting that you were going to bitbang it a-la zipit :) |
| 21:31.27 | GPSFan | prpplague: the source to the driver is at Files > MMC > mmc-multi > mmc-multi.c I don't see a .tar.gz there |
| 21:31.28 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 21:31.31 | jbevren | gotcha :) |
| 21:31.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea my bad , it was .c file |
| 21:31.40 | jbevren | cant wait till I can afford one :D |
| 21:31.42 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 21:33.09 | prpplague | jbevren: i thought you were on the beta list |
| 21:33.16 | jbevren | I'm not afaik |
| 21:33.22 | jbevren | is there a jbevren@ in the list? |
| 21:33.36 | Exiles | prpplague http://www.elinux.org/Image:Hammer-pinouts.jpg your image here has a pinout issue, with pin 31/32 I'm not able to tell which pin is SPIMISO1/SPIMOSI1 |
| 21:33.40 | jbevren | it might be going to my domain, whose address I check possibly once a onth :) |
| 21:33.51 | jbevren | Exiles: lol I pointed that out to him a month ago :D |
| 21:34.13 | jbevren | I imagine it'll be corrected once the final hardware is released |
| 21:36.43 | prpplague | Exiles: yea, i know |
| 21:37.09 | prpplague | jbevren: no, don't see one |
| 21:37.20 | jbevren | prpplague: cool |
| 21:38.09 | GPSFan | prpplague: do you have any more info on the carrier board? or will that come with the package? |
| 21:38.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, the boards are complete, just haven't had time to take a photo |
| 21:38.34 | prpplague | GPSFan: try to get to that tomorrow |
| 21:39.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: usb slave, usb host, sd/mmc slot, pwm buzzer, 1 pushbutton, power led, gpio connected led, reset button, db9 female rs-232 connector, uart level shifter for both uarts |
| 21:39.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: thanks, i'm looking for something like a schematic. it looks like there may be a voltage regulator on it. |
| 21:39.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: all pins brought out |
| 21:39.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: plus a large .1" proto area |
| 21:39.59 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea |
| 21:40.08 | prpplague | give me a sec, i'll email you |
| 21:40.18 | GPSFan | prpplague: thanks... |
| 21:40.35 | prpplague | kenm right? |
| 21:40.48 | GPSFan | yep |
| 21:40.55 | Exiles | I wouldn't mind looking myself |
| 21:42.38 | prpplague | Exiles: chris right? |
| 21:42.42 | Exiles | yes |
| 21:43.11 | GPSFan | prpplague: that's perfect ;>) |
| 21:43.41 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:44.43 | GPSFan | prpplague: you should have a current limiting resistor in series with SP1 |
| 21:45.43 | jbevren | APEX is the bootloader of choice right? |
| 21:45.49 | jbevren | random curiosity :) |
| 21:47.07 | Exiles | could be uboot aswell |
| 21:47.36 | jbevren | I just seem to remember prpplague being a fan of apex |
| 21:47.38 | jbevren | either is fine:) |
| 21:47.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: also, depending on your schematic -> PCB program you have the 3.3V out of the Hammer connected to the 3.3V out ov the LM1117 |
| 21:47.43 | jbevren | its just a bootloader after all :) |
| 21:49.17 | prpplague | jbevren: yea apex |
| 21:49.34 | Exiles | can replace it with any you choose with enough knowledge |
| 21:49.53 | GPSFan | prpplague: bbl.. |
| 21:49.56 | jbevren | Exiles: nod |
| 21:50.01 | jbevren | Exiles: http://jbevren.net/pixter/ heh |
| 21:50.01 | prpplague | GPSFan: ok, i'll have a look |
| 21:50.05 | jbevren | I have sufficient knowhow |
| 21:50.06 | prpplague | GPSFan: i didn't do that board |
| 21:50.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: but any info is worth it |
| 21:50.32 | prpplague | jbevren: you did hear nxp bought the sharp bluestreak line? |
| 21:50.49 | jbevren | I created my first Wiggler and got the first JTAG probing done on the pixter hehe |
| 21:50.51 | jbevren | prpplague: I havent |
| 21:50.55 | jbevren | good or bad thing? |
| 21:51.26 | prpplague | jbevren: good thing so far |
| 21:51.36 | prpplague | pixter-mm |
| 21:51.39 | jbevren | as long as they dont start doing closed things like intel did with theirs |
| 21:51.44 | jbevren | yeah thats a pixter mm |
| 21:51.50 | jbevren | I broke the touch overlay :(( |
| 21:51.55 | jbevren | but the cpu's still fien :D |
| 21:52.12 | jbevren | I looked for one a few times, and havent been able to find one |
| 21:52.17 | jbevren | (a new pixter mm) |
| 21:53.33 | prpplague | jbevren: yea been hard to find lately |
| 21:53.47 | prpplague | jbevren: think mattel got scared when sharp was jerking them around |
| 21:54.03 | prpplague | jbevren: don't know if mattel is going forward with nxp |
| 21:56.59 | g1powermac | prpplague, I ordered my phone :-) |
| 21:57.08 | g1powermac | prpplague, I also got this here book: http://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Linux-Primer-Real-World-Development/dp/0131679848/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-0869989-9507669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187123504&sr=8-1 |
| 21:57.43 | jbevren | prpplague: could be |
| 21:57.54 | jbevren | lets hope bluestreak's new owner encourages them :0 |
| 21:57.56 | jbevren | heh |
| 21:58.10 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:58.28 | jbevren | (and lets hope they continue to extend jtag and serial pins) |
| 21:58.29 | jbevren | lol |
| 21:58.32 | prpplague | g1powermac: not familiar with that one |
| 21:58.46 | g1powermac | prpplague, it looks to be a good book |
| 21:59.03 | g1powermac | at least for someone with my level of knowledge (or lack thereof) |
| 21:59.21 | prpplague | GPSFan: think i'm going to use the driver from the zipit and a timmer to poll the card detect pin |
| 22:00.40 | Exiles | I like this mini usb to serial convertor I have |
| 22:01.35 | jbevren | hm |
| 22:01.44 | jbevren | the pixter doesnt have another line for card detect floating about does it? :) |
| 22:01.53 | jbevren | hotplug mmc would be neat |
| 22:02.05 | jbevren | although a base 2Mbyte rom for the OS does leave things squeezed |
| 22:02.16 | jbevren | erm |
| 22:02.21 | jbevren | s/pixter/zpipt/ |
| 22:03.48 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, you could do a card detect |
| 22:03.59 | jbevren | given there's a spare IO line hehe |
| 22:29.42 | g1powermac | hmmm |
| 22:32.53 | prpplague | should be able to find it on the omap web site |
| 22:33.04 | g1powermac | I've been looking |
| 22:33.49 | g1powermac | unless I'm missing something |
| 22:34.22 | ds2 | g1powermac: just need to prove you will use more OMAP1710's in your product then there are grains of sand in the world ;) |
| 22:34.39 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 22:35.55 | g1powermac | *sigh* all I wanted to see was a pin out of the chip to see if I could find the jtag pins |
| 22:36.11 | g1powermac | dang tech companies an their love of NDAs |
| 22:36.16 | g1powermac | *and |
| 22:36.26 | ds2 | one site described that as an off catalog chip |
| 22:36.53 | g1powermac | yea, its only meant for high volume oems |
| 22:36.57 | g1powermac | http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=11991&contentId=4670 |
| 22:37.24 | ds2 | if nokia was truely OSS friendly, they should put pressure on TI |
| 22:38.36 | g1powermac | yea |
| 22:39.06 | MonMotha | TI has tons of devices with open documentation available in amazingly small quantity |
| 22:39.27 | g1powermac | MonMotha, yea, figures this one isn't |
| 22:39.30 | MonMotha | there are situations that arise where there are legit reasons to demand volume before selling things, though I still dislike the lack of open docs |
| 22:39.55 | ds2 | not asking them to selling me a tube or a case...just asking for info on it |
| 22:40.11 | MonMotha | yeah, I'd still like to see at least pinout and API info |
| 22:40.13 | ds2 | if i wanted it bad enough I'll go pull one out of a N770 ;) |
| 22:40.51 | CosmicPenguin | Thats not fair - I think Nokia is doing what they can |
| 22:43.10 | g1powermac | I wonder what TI would say if I asked for a datasheet |
| 22:45.06 | MonMotha | depends on who you as |
| 22:45.06 | MonMotha | k |
| 22:45.19 | MonMotha | it REALLY helps to get to know a local sales rep |
| 22:45.31 | g1powermac | yea |
| 22:45.41 | g1powermac | unfortunately I was never contacted by a local rep |
| 22:45.47 | g1powermac | at least from them |
| 22:46.15 | g1powermac | I've ordered quite a few samples from TI in the past |
| 22:48.51 | g1powermac | could be because there isn't a local rep here in the state. . . |
| 22:49.15 | MonMotha | I was once contacted by a rep about some samples, and I made the mistake of not writing down his info |
| 22:49.24 | g1powermac | the current local rep is covering a huge territory |
| 22:49.39 | g1powermac | http://www.sai-rep.com/ |
| 22:49.50 | MonMotha | I really only know an ON rep and an Atmel rep |
| 22:50.11 | MonMotha | you know, it may ahve been those guys |
| 22:50.11 | g1powermac | yea, the only rep I've had some communications with is the Atmel one |
| 22:50.19 | ds2 | do any of them do the periodic dropin with donuts? |
| 22:50.20 | MonMotha | which Atmel rep? |
| 22:50.27 | g1powermac | and only through email after complaining to atmel's main offices about them never contacting me |
| 22:50.55 | g1powermac | hmm, lemme check |
| 22:50.56 | g1powermac | ds2, nah |
| 22:51.29 | g1powermac | ds2, heck, actually i just realized that my phone number to all these reps has been changed, so they can't even call me atm |
| 22:51.33 | MonMotha | ds2: takes fairly high volume for that |
| 22:52.58 | g1powermac | MonMotha, Giesting and Associates out of Cincinnati |
| 22:53.19 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.newertech.com/products/ministackNAS.php |
| 22:53.25 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone know whats on the inside of that/ |
| 22:53.36 | g1powermac | MonMotha, I had to complain a bit before I ever heard from them |
| 22:54.03 | MonMotha | ah, there's a Geisting and Associates in Kokomo, IN, also |
| 22:54.13 | MonMotha | as a result of a merger with Alpha Tech |
| 22:54.15 | g1powermac | CosmicPenguin, no, but thats a neat device |
| 22:54.25 | MonMotha | they've been most helpful to me |
| 22:54.26 | CosmicPenguin | kind of cute |
| 22:54.54 | CosmicPenguin | propriatry driver tough |
| 22:54.57 | CosmicPenguin | though even |
| 22:55.08 | g1powermac | MonMotha, yea, once I got an inside person, I was able to order samples any time I wanted |
| 22:55.51 | MonMotha | heh, I have cell phone #s |
| 22:56.01 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 22:56.07 | MonMotha | which actually I just made use of a week ago as I needed a rush sample for a prototype |
| 22:56.13 | g1powermac | I don't have that, well, actually I might |
| 22:56.14 | MonMotha | digi-key ran out |
| 22:56.20 | g1powermac | but I find email works fine |
| 22:58.05 | MonMotha | this office seems to do better over the phone |
| 22:58.07 | MonMotha | email is spotty |
| 22:58.28 | g1powermac | yea, thats what happened at first |
| 22:58.36 | g1powermac | when i was emailing the head guy |
| 22:58.50 | g1powermac | eventually got someone lower down the chain and got great response :-) |
| 22:59.13 | MonMotha | this is a much smaller office, so the "others" tend to be variable in terms of availability |
| 22:59.22 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 22:59.24 | MonMotha | it pretty much exists to rep to Delphi |
| 22:59.53 | MonMotha | also, if you're ever in the market for boiler controls, let me know :) |
| 23:00.01 | g1powermac | yea, the one here has quite a few people working at it |
| 23:00.03 | g1powermac | heheh |
| 23:00.12 | g1powermac | don't think I'll need boiler controls ;-) |
| 23:00.35 | MonMotha | I actually worked at a semiconductor sales office for a while |
| 23:00.39 | MonMotha | worked at an ON office |
| 23:00.59 | MonMotha | was great for about 6 months afterwards because I was still in their samples system as a field apps engineer |
| 23:01.08 | MonMotha | I could order 10x more of anything and no shipping/handling |
| 23:01.20 | g1powermac | hahahah |
| 23:01.24 | g1powermac | I would love that |
| 23:01.47 | MonMotha | ON has TONS of useful stuff |
| 23:01.54 | MonMotha | since they make all sorts of discrete components |
| 23:02.03 | g1powermac | yea |
| 23:02.25 | MonMotha | also, if you ever manage to get hold of the "FlexMOS" USB/SPI evaluation kit, I made that |
| 23:02.41 | g1powermac | cool |
| 23:02.44 | MonMotha | the board may or may not still have "BVM" as the initials on it (probably has RWK, now) |
| 23:03.02 | MonMotha | I know some minor revisions were made |
| 23:03.03 | *** join/#edev joe_bleau (n=joe_blea@adsl-75-13-179-189.dsl.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:03.18 | MonMotha | there was a desire to make the digital outputs tolerant of shorts to 120VAC |
| 23:03.26 | MonMotha | mine was only good up to about 12VDC |
| 23:03.37 | g1powermac | I'm actually a CS guy |
| 23:03.54 | MonMotha | well, with the right experience you can be |
| 23:03.58 | g1powermac | who never finished his degree either |
| 23:04.05 | MonMotha | though anything that's government or safety related you'll have to get signed off by a real engineer |
| 23:04.18 | g1powermac | got dragged into my parents business before I could finish |
| 23:04.19 | MonMotha | I'm not a PE since I just graduated, though I did pass the FE |
| 23:04.24 | g1powermac | now I do all the tech stuff here |
| 23:04.27 | g1powermac | brb |
| 23:04.58 | MonMotha | that and if you were to complete a "software engineering" titled curriculum at an accredited school, some states (notably Texas) do recognize professional software engineers, now |
| 23:05.28 | CosmicPenguin | recognize them as what? |
| 23:06.39 | MonMotha | as professional engineers |
| 23:06.41 | joe_bleau | wait, do you mean that you can call yourself an 'engineer' in Texas without passing the PE exam? |
| 23:06.45 | MonMotha | of their own discipline |
| 23:06.53 | MonMotha | no, you have to pass the FE and PE |
| 23:07.00 | MonMotha | and complete a software engineering degree |
| 23:07.06 | joe_bleau | gotcha. |
| 23:07.10 | MonMotha | they just recognize the discipline of software engineering |
| 23:07.25 | g1powermac | hmm, interesting |
| 23:07.57 | chouimat|happy | and then your insurance go thru the roof :) |
| 23:08.04 | g1powermac | from IT type work to marketing |
| 23:14.16 | g1powermac | now I'm working on this bit of a side project with the smc skype phone to turn it into an ultimate linux wifi sip phone for the asterisk phone system I'm setting up |
| 23:27.22 | jbevren | heh |
| 23:27.29 | jbevren | g1powermac: make sure you document the process :D |
| 23:29.15 | g1powermac | jbevren, definitely going to :-) |
| 23:29.23 | g1powermac | once I get my phone ;-) |
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| 23:37.04 | g1powermac | supposedly its torx screws holding it together, and I don't have torx drivers. . . |
