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| 12:46.34 | g1powermac_PB | hey GPSFan |
| 12:46.45 | GPSFan | g'day |
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| 12:55.13 | jbevren | gpsfan |
| 13:10.18 | GPSFan | jbevren |
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| 13:47.48 | g1powermac | GPSFan, you know, I was thinking |
| 13:48.26 | g1powermac | GPSFan, if I could find maybe some open communication pins, like an spi port, adding a GPS module to the phone would be quite cool |
| 13:51.48 | g1powermac | http://sprite.student.utwente.nl/~jeroen/foto/foto/misc7/img_2545.jpg |
| 13:52.09 | g1powermac | you could see some space in the back case where the wifi module would sit |
| 13:52.32 | g1powermac | depending on how tall the wifi module is, might be just enough space to squeeze in a GPS module |
| 13:59.17 | g1powermac | or could go with bluetooth |
| 13:59.26 | g1powermac | but I think gps would be more interesting |
| 13:59.39 | g1powermac | especially if I do the wifi mesh thing |
| 14:05.05 | g1powermac | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8291 |
| 14:05.10 | g1powermac | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8418 |
| 14:05.24 | g1powermac | I could prolly make a nice little pcb for those two to fit inside the phone |
| 14:05.59 | g1powermac | it would prolly be quite a bit smaller than the module boards they have |
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| 14:49.00 | g1powermac_ | hmm |
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| 15:40.28 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:45.21 | g1powermac | hey chouimat |
| 16:01.36 | GPSFan | g1powermac: that would be interesting, but it might really effect the battery life. |
| 16:02.00 | chouimat | http://userfriendly.org <---- HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 16:02.23 | g1powermac | GPSFan, yea, but I wonder if you could get a higher capacity battery for the phone. . . . |
| 16:02.48 | GPSFan | sure get a car battery ;P |
| 16:02.53 | g1powermac | hahaha |
| 16:02.54 | GPSFan | hohoho |
| 16:03.06 | g1powermac | well, I meant one that can actually fit in the phone :-) |
| 16:08.11 | GPSFan | yeah, Lion & Lipoly batts are getting smaller and higher capacity all the time. one thought might be to add a bluetooth module, and then have a bluetooth gps. I have one for my 770 and it works well. on the phone instalitation, the antenna location might be a "challenge". |
| 16:08.45 | g1powermac | hmmm |
| 16:08.55 | g1powermac | I was thinking of maybe adding bluetooth |
| 16:09.21 | g1powermac | I wonder how much more drain bluetooth would be over the gps module |
| 16:11.04 | g1powermac | http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=148 |
| 16:11.08 | g1powermac | maybe something like that |
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| 16:13.06 | g1powermac | or just go with this: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=149 |
| 16:13.12 | g1powermac | same thin just without the breakout board |
| 16:13.17 | g1powermac | *thing |
| 16:21.07 | GPSFan | yeah, that might work. this is the bt gps I got: http://www.qstarz.com/Products/GPS%20Products/BT-Q816.htm With a seperate receiver, the antenna choice & positioning problem is greatly reduced. Trying to fit a patch antenna into the phone might be impossible. The timy little antenna modules similar to the one on the bt module "just don't work" (voice of experience) |
| 16:21.37 | GPSFan | for gps that is... |
| 16:25.55 | g1powermac | GPSFan, yea, the bigger modules would be interesting to fit inside the phone, unless there is quite a bit of open space behind the wifi module |
| 16:26.05 | g1powermac | can't really tell till I get one in my hands |
| 16:30.00 | GPSFan | with gps the antenna orientation is impoetatn, the little ceramic modules have very poor gain & directional characteristics wrt the standard patch type. The patch types are about 2" x 2" x .3" and the 2x2 face needs to point up, otherwise you wont get enough sat's for a good fix. |
| 16:30.20 | GPSFan | important that is ;>) |
| 16:31.02 | g1powermac | ahh |
| 16:31.08 | g1powermac | yea, thats a bit large |
| 16:32.47 | GPSFan | bbl.. |
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| 17:14.38 | Exiled | yawn, mornig guys |
| 17:15.58 | g1powermac | hey Exiled |
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| 19:07.01 | GPSFan | g1powermac: have you downloaded the "source code" from the smc site? if so what's there? |
| 19:09.36 | g1powermac | GPSFan, I have, but need to look at it some more |
| 19:11.02 | GPSFan | g1powermac: do you know if they use the dsp in the omap for anything (codec) or do they do all the sip stuff in the arm processor? |
| 19:13.06 | g1powermac | good question, I'm not sure |
| 19:13.51 | g1powermac | going to download the source to this machine and check a bit further |
| 19:14.23 | g1powermac | now the source is for the phone I'm going to hack, not the SIP phone |
| 19:14.44 | g1powermac | they do have source downloads for that one too, I just don't have it linked off the wiki page |
| 19:14.48 | Exiles | I've got some DSP's |
| 19:16.26 | GPSFan | g1powermac: I'd expect the skype code to use the dsp, and afterall why have an omap if you aren't going to use the dsp for something. |
| 19:16.38 | g1powermac | yea |
| 19:16.54 | g1powermac | would be interesting to see whats in the source in regards to that |
| 19:18.01 | GPSFan | and what isn't included in the source will be almost as interesting. |
| 19:18.09 | g1powermac | yea |
| 19:23.10 | g1powermac | alright, looks like a batch of packages |
| 19:23.41 | g1powermac | namely, busybox, curl, libjpeg, u-boot, wpa-supplcant, and the gcc with glibc |
| 19:23.54 | g1powermac | of course you also have the kernel |
| 19:26.25 | g1powermac | yea, they definitely pulled stuff out of the kernel sources |
| 19:27.03 | g1powermac | looking at the net drivers and quite a few folders have newer dates than the rest, but nothing inside the folder is newer |
| 19:27.32 | GPSFan | this seems to be the main voip app and from browsing the binary it looks like it uses the dsp. >> /opt/Qtopia/bin/hs_voip_omap_app_keypad_v2_0 |
| 19:28.08 | g1powermac | interesting |
| 19:33.59 | g1powermac | they've definitely done some stuff to the kernel for this update |
| 19:34.07 | g1powermac | I got dates of Jan 25, 2007 |
| 19:34.23 | g1powermac | which is way too recent for 2.6.9 |
| 19:35.26 | GPSFan | is there a .config file? |
| 19:36.42 | g1powermac | no, not from what I'm seeing |
| 19:38.25 | g1powermac | there is a '.version.keep' file |
| 19:38.31 | g1powermac | nothing in it though |
| 19:38.44 | g1powermac | actually, there is a '1' in it |
| 19:41.50 | GPSFan | is there an uncompressed binary of the kernel |
| 19:47.35 | g1powermac | yes |
| 19:48.08 | g1powermac | well, not uncompressed, but there is a linux.bin.gz in there |
| 19:51.31 | GPSFan | hmm |
| 19:53.10 | g1powermac | btw, I find it interesting they made their own SIP/VoIP app |
| 19:53.35 | g1powermac | I wonder if they actually bought a commercial license of Qtopia from trolltech |
| 19:53.56 | g1powermac | since the commercial version is suppose to have VoIP stuff already in it |
| 19:55.24 | g1powermac | btw, what are you using to look at the binary files? |
| 19:57.44 | GPSFan | I use midnight commander for that as well as lots of other stuff. for developmnet work I can't get along without it. ;>) |
| 19:58.02 | chouimat | hahahaha |
| 19:59.20 | GPSFan | chouimat: hahahahahah to you too, I'm just a console type of guy. |
| 19:59.34 | g1powermac | hmm, that could come in handy |
| 19:59.46 | g1powermac | GPSFan, yea, I'm a CLI guy myself when I do dev work |
| 20:00.18 | g1powermac | but never heard of midnight commander |
| 20:02.07 | GPSFan | http://freshmeat.net/projects/midnightcommander/ |
| 20:03.19 | chouimat | GPSFan: I use mc or krusader ... it depend how i feel ( and if I can redirect X or have X on the computer) |
| 20:05.32 | GPSFan | chouimat: never heard of krusader. |
| 20:06.09 | chouimat | http://krusader.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:07.18 | GPSFan | yep, looks like a gui-zed mc. |
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