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| 01:42.34 | ds2 | use perl :P |
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| 14:01.45 | prpplague | anyone familiar with using git web for generating patches? |
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| 15:10.08 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:10.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: gitweb for creating patches? |
| 15:28.49 | cbrake | has pretty much replaced quilt for me |
| 15:37.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 15:37.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: should be pretty easy - whats not working? |
| 15:38.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: me |
| 15:38.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not really sure how to actually do it |
| 15:38.36 | CosmicPenguin | what gitweb you working in? |
| 15:39.10 | prpplague | http://git.rtp-net.org/?p=h1940.git;a=summary |
| 15:39.45 | CosmicPenguin | what diff are you looking for? |
| 15:40.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the udc branch |
| 15:40.32 | CosmicPenguin | against main? |
| 15:40.46 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:43.21 | CosmicPenguin | tht gitweb is slow |
| 15:43.26 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:43.30 | prpplague | low bandwidth |
| 15:47.06 | CosmicPenguin | probably just be faster if you checked it out |
| 15:49.20 | CosmicPenguin | Basically, you have to do it by hand |
| 15:49.35 | CosmicPenguin | Do a diff any diff, and get the url |
| 15:49.44 | CosmicPenguin | then just substitute the two commit IDs you need for that URL |
| 15:50.05 | CosmicPenguin | I would give you a url, but it keeps timing out |
| 15:51.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, me and git don't get along |
| 15:52.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its a total beoych to get installed on fedora, and we have a ton of problems trying to get it run through the companys firewall |
| 15:53.07 | CosmicPenguin | fedora what? |
| 15:53.10 | CosmicPenguin | 6? 7? |
| 15:53.17 | prpplague | either |
| 15:53.19 | CosmicPenguin | All the OLPCers use it happily (or at least, it works) |
| 15:53.21 | prpplague | i have both 6 and 7 |
| 15:53.24 | CosmicPenguin | nobody who uses git is really happy |
| 15:55.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: friday engineering meeting, boss isn't happy with all the projects i'm running behind on |
| 15:55.27 | prpplague | just not enough hours in the day |
| 15:55.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: back when i was with advantage if i was running behind on projects i'd just stay late and get it done |
| 15:56.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but aml wants everyone out of the building by 6pm |
| 15:56.29 | CosmicPenguin | boo! |
| 15:56.32 | CosmicPenguin | I wouldn't stand for that |
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| 15:56.56 | CosmicPenguin | I need three things - coffee, running Linux on my desktop, and being able to stay as alate as Iwant |
| 15:57.06 | CosmicPenguin | I'll judge for myself how much work is too much |
| 15:58.54 | CosmicPenguin | Nobody gets to bad mouth Marvell for the rest of the day |
| 15:59.00 | CosmicPenguin | they released the datasheets for the CaFE |
| 15:59.03 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.marvell.com/products/pcconn/88ALP01.jsp |
| 16:00.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea they see to be ok with the OLPC people, but thats where it ends |
| 16:00.29 | CosmicPenguin | its something |
| 16:00.33 | CosmicPenguin | its a start |
| 16:00.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, thats what i keep hearing |
| 16:01.00 | prpplague | and datasheets |
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| 17:59.31 | prpplague | jbevren: ping ping ping |
| 18:00.37 | prpplague | Exiles: ping ping |
| 18:00.46 | Exiles | porning |
| 18:00.49 | Exiles | morning |
| 18:01.29 | Exiles | fre'prpplague: pong pong |
| 18:01.40 | prpplague | Exiles: hey, i need a contact phone number |
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| 18:10.59 | ds2 | ping flooding detected! |
| 18:11.03 | prpplague | i have one hammer board kit still available for the "docs for hardware" stuff |
| 18:11.08 | prpplague | anyone interested? |
| 18:11.33 | Exiles | I think g1powermac is |
| 18:11.48 | prpplague | i thought g1powermac was busy with his phone stuff |
| 18:11.59 | Exiles | not sure |
| 18:12.15 | Exiles | he has alot of ideas |
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| 18:18.41 | g1powermac | Exiles, heh, I got about thirty projects going on at the same time :-) |
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| 18:18.55 | Exiles | exactly |
| 18:19.46 | g1powermac | prpplague, if you can't find anyone else, you could send it to me. I'll be able to do some stuff with it, I just can't guarantee when |
| 18:20.10 | prpplague | g1powermac: yea thats the thing, we need some feedback fairly quick |
| 18:20.32 | prpplague | i'd like to get some more linux people |
| 18:20.47 | g1powermac | yea |
| 18:21.45 | g1powermac | prpplague, though the good thing is I could prolly film anything I do with a kit, since I now have a full video outfit |
| 18:22.08 | prpplague | g1powermac: that indeed would be nice |
| 18:22.08 | g1powermac | if you guys are interested in video tutorials :-) |
| 18:24.38 | g1powermac | prpplague, its up to you, I'd be able to shoot some tutorials, just prolly not immediately |
| 18:25.00 | g1powermac | I need to shoot a few commercials/other things for our business first |
| 18:25.20 | g1powermac | and also work on the phone system, which is currently behind schedule |
| 18:25.29 | Exiles | well, get cracking g1 |
| 18:25.52 | g1powermac | Exiles, it got thrown behind schedule due to the DOA phone I received |
| 18:26.39 | g1powermac | it shouldn't take me anymore than a week to get it setup mostly |
| 18:26.53 | g1powermac | since I now have some experience with asterisk |
| 18:30.42 | ds2 | prpplague: if you can accept a finish date around the 20th of Sep, sure |
| 18:31.53 | prpplague | ds2: finish date? |
| 18:32.10 | ds2 | prpplague: I assume you want pictures, docs, etc written as soon as possible |
| 18:32.22 | prpplague | ds2: not really concerned about "finished" per se, just as long as docs are posted |
| 18:32.36 | ds2 | prplague: how's that different from finish? |
| 18:32.55 | prpplague | ds2: generally for most of the projects its almost on going |
| 18:33.02 | ds2 | ah gotcha |
| 18:33.18 | ds2 | I'll rephase that as pages by around the 20th |
| 18:33.35 | ds2 | I want have it done by the 20th though ;) |
| 18:34.21 | ds2 | prpplague: am I correct in assuming you guys will "own" the project? i.e. if it is interesting,you guys have the exclusive right to sell kits, etc? |
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| 18:40.24 | prpplague | ds2: no, we want the project licensed up some open source scheme |
| 18:40.46 | ds2 | ah... fine with me |
| 18:41.04 | ds2 | prpplague: that's better then the circuit celler stuff |
| 18:41.52 | ds2 | anyways, if you need a project, I'll be happy to do the mass storage "switch" thing I mentioned a while ago... and if you do want the rights, feel free =) code + design |
| 18:42.23 | ds2 | might be ugly with "flying" wire construction techniques though ;) |
| 18:44.51 | ds2 | wire wrapping w/o cutting the wires to exact length so you get a random rats nest ;) |
| 18:45.35 | g1powermac | ahh fun |
| 18:46.23 | ds2 | got a bunch of 10year old wirewrapping supplies to use up =) |
| 18:47.17 | g1powermac | hehe |
| 18:47.39 | Exiles | g wires gone up since then |
| 18:48.14 | Exiles | wire wrapping* |
| 18:48.36 | ds2 | yes, unfortunately... but that's cuz they are the only ones that will fit a surface mount part ;) |
| 18:51.24 | Exiles | I admit thats how I use some smt devices |
| 18:54.38 | ds2 | *nod* and I have seen people tack WW wires on 0.5mm pitch devices! |
| 18:57.17 | Exiles | I've fixed a mobo with wire wrap wire |
| 18:57.37 | ds2 | some products ship with those "fixes" ;) |
| 18:58.08 | Exiles | this is a pentium 4 board |
| 18:58.16 | ds2 | In proper PCB layout we trust. |
| 18:58.35 | Exiles | it had a few damaged traces |
| 18:58.56 | Exiles | if I had another p4 board I would swap the board out |
| 18:59.34 | ds2 | p4s get too hot |
| 18:59.39 | ds2 | i'll stick with arm =) |
| 18:59.44 | Exiles | as the traces are between the north bridge and south bridge |
| 19:01.01 | Exiles | I like my cool AMD 64 |
| 19:01.11 | Exiles | cpu temp is 70F atm |
| 19:03.21 | ds2 | run a few copies of while(1); |
| 19:03.22 | ds2 | =) |
| 19:04.43 | Exiles | so, you want to see it maxed out eh? |
| 19:05.10 | ds2 | *nod* I have a turion and that gets too hot to handle if I do anything cpu intensive |
| 19:08.53 | Exiles | 104F |
| 19:09.05 | Exiles | 111F |
| 19:09.05 | ds2 | not bad |
| 19:09.20 | Exiles | 109F |
| 19:09.33 | Exiles | so I would say closer to 110F |
| 19:09.50 | Exiles | as it's fluctuating between 109 and 111 |
| 19:10.13 | Exiles | both cpu cores maxed |
| 19:10.35 | Exiles | and I'm not pushing my cpu cooler at it's max |
| 19:10.53 | ds2 | guess newer ones are cooler |
| 19:11.28 | Exiles | that, and I got the 65 watt cpu |
| 19:11.48 | ds2 | the turion is suppose to be the lowest power (donno the numbers) |
| 19:14.05 | Exiles | I have a Windsor core |
| 19:14.27 | Exiles | 65WATT |
| 19:14.55 | Exiles | dosn't overclock aswell, but it's cooler, and uses less power |
| 19:15.15 | Exiles | which I found more to my I care about the planet side |
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| 20:22.33 | jbevren | hm |
| 20:22.37 | jbevren | iphone unlocked |
| 20:22.39 | jbevren | cool :D |
| 20:24.29 | prpplague | jbevren: board shipping today |
| 20:24.32 | prpplague | jbevren: ups blue |
| 20:24.35 | jbevren | prp: cool |
| 20:24.39 | jbevren | ups or usps? |
| 20:24.55 | prpplague | ups |
| 20:24.59 | jbevren | ok :) |
| 20:25.14 | jbevren | if signature isnt required, it'll be waiting for me when I get there :) |
| 20:25.29 | jbevren | I should perfboard my jtagger |
| 20:25.35 | jbevren | get it off the plugboard :) |
| 20:26.40 | prpplague | jbevren: comes with a usb jtager |
| 20:26.44 | jbevren | oh cool |
| 20:26.51 | jbevren | doubly sweet |
| 20:26.55 | jbevren | I still need to though :) |
| 20:27.05 | jbevren | thatw ay I can reliably use it with my other junk |
| 20:27.07 | jbevren | lol |
| 20:27.18 | jbevren | I also need to unbrick one of my zipits |
| 20:27.29 | jbevren | I was attempting the mmc hack and lost one of those resistors in a solder blob |
| 20:27.34 | jbevren | meh :) |
| 20:27.38 | prpplague | jbevren: no reason you can't use the flyswatter(the usb jtagger) with just about anything |
| 20:27.41 | jbevren | I have a better iron now, so it should be easy to fix |
| 20:27.47 | jbevren | prp: nod, true |
| 20:27.55 | jbevren | but the one I built is an item of pride ;-) |
| 20:27.59 | prpplague | fully supported by openocd |
| 20:28.02 | jbevren | I was shooting two targets in the dark with one bullet |
| 20:28.02 | prpplague | jbevren: understood |
| 20:28.04 | jbevren | and hit em both :) |
| 20:28.15 | jbevren | i.e. I didnt know if those were the jtag pins |
| 20:28.21 | jbevren | and I didnt know if my adapter worked :D |
| 20:28.39 | jbevren | but sure enough.. http://jbevren.net/pixter :D |
| 20:29.05 | jbevren | anywho, thanks for the update |
| 20:29.11 | jbevren | are there any forums/lists I should register on? |
| 20:29.42 | prpplague | nothing yet |
| 20:29.49 | prpplague | just the elinux.org pages |
| 20:29.59 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_Board |
| 20:30.05 | prpplague | you can use the talk function |
| 20:32.19 | prpplague | Exiles: cool deal |
| 20:32.34 | Exiles | for some reason I don't think FreeBSD is going to work to terribly well, nor BEOS |
| 20:33.05 | prpplague | just a reminder, the cd is still a little raw, so any problems please email me so we can get the final cut pretty complete |
| 20:33.31 | Exiles | what Linux distro would you suggest for the CD |
| 20:33.38 | prpplague | Exiles / jbevren / GPSFan the cd does contain a pdf of the schematic, this needs to stay off the wiki untill we go live |
| 20:33.50 | prpplague | Exiles: should work with anything, i use fedora |
| 20:34.10 | Exiles | 7? |
| 20:34.15 | jbevren | prp- until you say its ok I dont plan to post anything at all :) |
| 20:34.20 | prpplague | right now both 6 and 7 |
| 20:34.30 | prpplague | jbevren: oh, you can post, just not the schematic |
| 20:34.39 | jbevren | gotcha |
| 20:34.42 | prpplague | jbevren: anything you want, jsut not the schematic |
| 20:34.49 | jbevren | understood |
| 20:34.59 | prpplague | jbevren: boss wants to hold off on posting that until we go live in a few weeks |
| 20:35.17 | prpplague | i'm shipping with a pretty recent buildroot and 2.6.22 |
| 20:35.31 | Exiles | okay |
| 20:37.25 | jbevren | ok :) |
| 20:37.38 | jbevren | I need to get my xilinx kit out again |
| 20:37.39 | prpplague | Exiles / jbevren / GPSFan it was my suggestion to use the "docs/howtos for hardware" so i'm counting on you guys to make it work, hehe |
| 20:37.40 | jbevren | heh |
| 20:37.49 | prpplague | tomw is getting one as well |
| 20:37.50 | jbevren | build |
| 20:37.51 | jbevren | er |
| 20:37.55 | jbevren | prp: cool |
| 20:38.00 | jbevren | tom'll kick my arse on hacks I'm sure :) |
| 20:38.24 | prpplague | we need both hardware and software stuff |
| 20:38.28 | prpplague | tom's more hardware |
| 20:38.56 | Exiles | I've been stufing hardware engnering too |
| 20:39.06 | Exiles | studing* |
| 20:41.13 | jbevren | heh |
| 20:41.15 | jbevren | I'm more hardware too |
| 20:41.18 | jbevren | well, concept wise |
| 20:41.22 | jbevren | implementation is my weakness |
| 20:41.33 | jbevren | although I -did- finally generate a stable raster for my 9" mac's CRT |
| 20:41.37 | jbevren | lol |
| 20:42.15 | jbevren | like, I have a timing diagram I wrote to sync 100mhz sdram with a 65816 cpu at 20mhz ;) |
| 20:42.31 | jbevren | the 816's accesses are so random (and there's no cache) that you have to do a new setup for every cycle |
| 20:42.36 | jbevren | meh :P |
| 20:43.15 | jbevren | it'll be fun to work with a modern cpu on an established platform ;-) |
| 20:43.29 | jbevren | my next project (hammer aside) is getting jtag and console on my pepperpad2 |
| 20:43.42 | jbevren | the %@# thing segfaults when I run mozilla now, and pepper cant seem to fix it |
| 20:43.48 | jbevren | memtests are fine heh |
| 20:44.08 | jbevren | so, I'm looking forward to dumping hardhat linux off it and doing something more efficient than do-everything-in-java |
| 20:44.19 | jbevren | (its not even a j-series arm cpu) |
| 20:45.36 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 20:45.43 | prpplague | too much work too little time |
| 20:55.51 | GPSFan | prpplague: still there? does that mean you shipped? |
| 20:57.28 | prpplague | GPSFan: yep |
| 20:57.36 | prpplague | GPSFan: waiting for UPS to arrive |
| 20:57.39 | GPSFan | ;>)) |
| 20:57.54 | prpplague | GPSFan: you should get an email from a rusty herod with a tracking number |
| 20:58.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: just don't post the schematic as of yet |
| 21:00.51 | Crofton|home | prpplague, I'm going to talk to a friend about a project idea next weekend |
| 21:01.03 | GPSFan | prpplague: np, I'll let you post schematics etc. I'll post how-to's and instructions on how to wire things up. |
| 21:01.06 | Crofton|home | caving electronics nerds |
| 21:05.42 | brad_mssw | talking wiring up the hammer? |
| 21:05.43 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:05.49 | prpplague | Crofton|home: cool deal |
| 21:06.01 | prpplague | Crofton: i'll be able to swing another 10 boards after the beta |
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| 21:07.29 | Exiles | anyone have any use for some XCV1000's |
| 21:07.47 | prpplague | plus the boss has promised monthly free hardware to the most prolific project posters |
| 21:08.28 | prpplague | including parts from sparkfun |
| 21:09.34 | Exiles | hmm, board needs some DAC |
| 21:10.54 | prpplague | Exiles: wire it up! |
| 21:27.41 | prpplague | should get your tracking info later this evening |
| 21:29.29 | Exiles | okay |
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