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02:27.09jbevrenno way.
02:27.15jbevrenI have two drives on my raid with teh same serialno
02:27.30jbevrensigh.
02:27.32jbevrenheh
02:50.51agaffneyo_O
02:52.32jbevrenI agree ;-)
02:53.01jbevrenI need to get my PC's set up again
02:53.09jbevrenbut first I need to get this room cleaned ;-)
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12:12.15dijenerategood morning
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13:08.32chouimatmorning
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13:21.41prpplagueho ho ho
13:32.43GPSFanprpplague: hi ho..
13:41.31prpplagueGPSFan: hey
13:41.39prpplagueGPSFan: see you posted some on the wiki
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13:41.56prpplagueGPSFan: the beeper-gpio.h was my fault, didn't get it added into cvs
13:42.03prpplagueGPSFan: its there now
13:42.25GPSFanprpplague: several other issues: http://www.pastebin.ca/680976
13:42.41GPSFanbtw hwo do I get to cvs?
13:43.33prpplagueGPSFan: we don't have it availabe to the outside yet, working on that now
13:44.14GPSFank.
13:45.08prpplagueGPSFan: sounds like there might be an endian problem with your ethernet adapter
13:45.13prpplagueGPSFan: i'll look into it
13:45.16GPSFanprpplague: since then I've rebuilt the kernel with more module stuff enabled, with no change in insmod or lsmod errors.
13:45.23prpplagueGPSFan: you got make and model of the one you are using?
13:45.37GPSFanwith the PI or the PII, the kaweth works ok.
13:46.19prpplagueGPSFan: yea, the insmod seems to be compiled incorrect
13:46.28prpplagueGPSFan: looking at it now
13:46.40GPSFanthe PI adapter sas a Farallon PN796
13:46.58GPSFanthe PII and kaweth are in the pastebin.
13:47.41GPSFanprpplague: gotta run out for a while, bbl.
13:48.05prpplagueGPSFan: yea, looks like the busybox insmod i have on the rootfs wasn't compiled for 2.6 kernels
13:48.29prpplagueGPSFan: great info, we'll get that cleaned up
13:49.56jbevrenhm my adapter is an rtl8150
13:50.18jbevrenlol
13:51.30prpplaguehehe
13:52.09jbevrenprpplague: this isnt even the work area :)
13:52.23jbevrensince Ive been out of town working for the psat few months, Ive let my livingroom become a pit
13:52.32jbevrenso Ive vowed to clean it before setting my PC's up
13:52.40jbevrenthe gamebox will be down here
13:52.47jbevrenthe devbox will go in the shop of course
13:53.53jbevrenand Im pondering re-arranging the shop too :X lol
13:55.11prpplaguefun fun
13:55.18prpplaguejbevren: job perspectives yet?
13:55.32jbevrenyeah.  Not IT, but moneymaking nonetheless
13:55.46prpplagueoh
13:55.56jbevrenoh Ive been meaning to ask you if I could use you in the future as a reference :)
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14:28.24sjhill*yawn*
14:30.09samuelrsjhill: Morning, sir.
14:30.21samuelrHow's life these days?
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14:46.21prpplaguesjhill: hey hey
14:46.26prpplaguesjhill: not seen you in awhile
14:46.29prpplaguesjhill: how goes it?
14:47.28dijenerateprpplague: what's up?
14:48.21dijenerateI hate service & support
14:48.45dijeneratetoo many stupid people own really nice pcs
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14:55.43prpplaguedijenerate: ssdd
14:56.03prpplaguedijenerate: guess you didn't fall in the hole at brittons hill
14:57.17dijenerateprpplague: nope still here
14:57.41dijenerateprpplague: that was pretty bad though
14:57.51prpplaguedijenerate: the deal with the fire at newton over the weekend?
14:58.04dijenerateprpplague: pretty disturbing
14:58.14dijenerateprpplague: may have been arson
14:58.20prpplaguelovely
14:58.23dijenerateprpplague: not their first
14:58.40prpplaguedijenerate: yea seems like i recall their being a big fire there before
14:58.48prpplaguedijenerate: like 4 or 5 years ago?
14:58.55dijenerateprpplague: sorta like Sheraton Mall
14:59.07prpplaguedijenerate: yea
14:59.16prpplaguedijenerate: that was really suspicious
14:59.30dijenerateprpplague: expansion funded by the insurance industry
14:59.37dijenerateprpplague: lo.
14:59.37prpplagueyea
14:59.40dijenerateprpplague: lol
15:00.17dijenerateprpplague: hey, I need some help with something
15:00.49prpplaguedijenerate: kadear, whats up?
15:01.52prpplagueGPSFan: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=NET10316
15:02.45dijenerateprpplague: got a Vaio Ux280P http://www.dynamism.com/ux/main.shtml
15:03.13dijenerateprpplague: got it to run Feisty Fawn on 2.6.20
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15:03.59prpplaguedijenerate: ok
15:04.03dijenerateprpplague: everything works except proprietary sony buuttons, MS reader and WWAN
15:04.32dijenerateprpplague: the WWAN is a SonyEricsson Quad band GSM radio
15:04.54dijenerateprpplague: according to sony tech (lack of) support, it's on the USB Bus
15:04.59prpplaguedijenerate: lovely
15:05.16prpplaguedijenerate: if its on the usb bus, you  should be able to just check the /proc/bus/usb/devices
15:05.25prpplaguedijenerate: should list it even if its not used
15:05.48dijenerateprpplague: got some photos of the innards http://micropctalk.wetpaint.com/page/Locating+and+Removing+WWAN+Card+%28US+Models+Only%29
15:06.21dijenerateprpplague: that's just it, the board isn't awake in linux and therefore doesn't show
15:06.49dijenerateprpplague:  so I can't get it to work, because I can't even figure out how to wake it
15:07.55dijenerateprpplague:  the ribbon cable used there to connect the WWAN is  the same as on the Japanese models but connects the CF card reader
15:08.11dijenerateprpplague:  a bit weird but apparently still USB
15:11.38dijenerateprpplague: this is copy and pasted output from cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
15:11.39dijenerateprpplague:
15:11.53dijenerateT:  Bus=05 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=480 MxCh= 8
15:11.53dijenerateB:  Alloc=  0/800 us ( 0%), #Int=  4, #Iso=  0
15:11.53dijenerateD:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=01 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
15:11.53dijenerateP:  Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06
15:11.53dijenerateS:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.20-16-generic ehci_hcd
15:11.55dijenerateS:  Product=EHCI Host Controller
15:11.59dijenerateS:  SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.7
15:12.00dijenerateC:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=  0mA
15:12.03dijenerateI:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
15:12.05dijenerateE:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   4 Ivl=256ms
15:12.06dijenerateT:  Bus=05 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 50 Spd=480 MxCh= 3
15:12.09dijenerateD:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=01 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
15:12.10dijenerateP:  Vendor=0409 ProdID=0059 Rev= 1.00
15:12.13dijenerateS:  Manufacturer=NECEL
15:12.14dijenerateS:  Product=USB2.0 Hub
15:12.16dijenerateC:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=100mA
15:12.19dijenerateI:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
15:12.20dijenerateE:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   1 Ivl=256ms
15:12.22dijenerateT:  Bus=05 Lev=02 Prnt=50 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 53 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
15:12.25dijenerateD:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
15:12.28dijenerateP:  Vendor=0d3d ProdID=0001 Rev= 0.01
15:12.30dijenerateS:  Manufacturer=Tangtop
15:12.33dijenerateS:  Product=Generic USBPS2
15:12.35dijenerateC:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA
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15:12.37dijenerateI:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID  ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid
15:12.39dijenerateE:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=10ms
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15:12.58dijenerateE:  Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   5 Ivl=10ms
15:12.58dijenerateT:  Bus=05 Lev=02 Prnt=50 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#= 52 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
15:12.58dijenerateD:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
15:12.58dijenerateP:  Vendor=046d ProdID=c50e Rev=25.00
15:13.00dijenerateS:  Manufacturer=Logitech
15:13.02dijenerateS:  Product=USB Receiver
15:13.05dijenerateC:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 70mA
15:13.07dijenerateI:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID  ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid
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15:13.19dijenerateS:  Manufacturer=hp
15:13.21dijenerateS:  Product=photosmart 1215
15:13.23dijenerateS:  SerialNumber=MY1BJ840B50U
15:13.25dijenerateC:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  2mA
15:13.27dijenerateI:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=07(print) Sub=01 Prot=03 Driver=usblp
15:13.30dijenerateE:
15:14.01jbevrenok..? :)
15:14.47CosmicPenguinpurl: ~pastebin
15:15.59CosmicPenguinJust a general purpose warning, fellow net people - pastebin is your friend
15:16.49dijeneratesorry, my bad
15:17.13CosmicPenguinNot a problem - this is how we learn
15:19.04prpplaguedijenerate: do this: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | grep -e "Product" \
15:19.13prpplaguedijenerate: doh without the \
15:19.15prpplaguedijenerate: do this: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | grep -e "Product"
15:19.56prpplaguedijenerate: large pastes in a channel are discouraged, anything more than 3 or 4 lines
15:20.20prpplaguedijenerate: some people are on low bandwidth connections and large pastes cause a flood
15:20.45Croftonbah
15:20.52Croftonwe just like to kick people :)
15:21.12Croftonit also make it hard to follow conversations when the channel gets flooded
15:21.56dijeneratenice one Crofton
15:21.58dijeneratelol
15:22.00chouimathi CosmicPenguin Crofton jbevren and prpplague
15:22.05prpplaguechouimat: greetings
15:22.06agaffneydijenerate: it wasn't a joke
15:22.11agaffneyit's fun to kick people :P
15:22.14dijenerateI know
15:22.35dijeneratebut com'on, I'm just a little coder
15:22.39prpplaguesamrobb: get any hammer hacking done over the weekend
15:22.43dijeneratewhere's the fun in kicking me
15:22.58chouimatpower abuse is always fun :)
15:23.16dijenerateincidentally that wasn't an invitation
15:23.27prpplaguedijenerate: power off your device and disconnect the wwan card, then re-run the command
15:23.52prpplaguedijenerate: i assume the one marked "usb receiver" is probably the one you are looking at for the wwan card
15:23.58dijenerateprpplague: it has a kill switch will that work?
15:25.10prpplaguedijenerate: possibly
15:25.23prpplaguedijenerate: worth a try
15:26.08prpplaguedijenerate: the one marked USBPS2 is probably your mouse
15:27.10dijenerateprpplague: actually that is the pointing/trackstick device
15:27.42prpplagueahh ok, then i'd say that your wwan isn't on usb
15:27.44dijenerateprpplague: the receiver is the base for the Logitech MX1000 cordless
15:28.06prpplaguedijenerate: okie dokie
15:28.16dijeneratethat's what I thought and he only other location I could think of is on the cardbus
15:28.25prpplaguedijenerate: so i don't see anything that would indicate that the wwan is on the usb bus
15:28.45prpplaguedijenerate: the unit has pcmcia support?
15:28.59dijeneratebut Sony's tech support read the service manual an the block diagram put the WWAN on the usb bus
15:29.03GPSFanprpplague: Exiles was hacking on th hammer yesterday, he got the pegasus module in the kernel and ran into the same issues I did, with the addition that he may not have enough 5V because of the wimpy linear at U2.
15:29.33GPSFanhe was looking into using a 5V wall wart
15:30.00prpplagueGPSFan: ahh ok
15:30.07prpplagueGPSFan: thats what beta is for
15:30.13GPSFanprpplague: the 9V wall wart that comes with the hammer puts out 13V under load.
15:30.16prpplagueGPSFan: you see that usb->10/100 adapter?
15:30.25prpplagueGPSFan: yea, i'm looking into that now
15:30.51GPSFanyep, nice, I've already got 3, that would be nice for someone else to get running.
15:31.15prpplagueGPSFan: we are trying to decide if we want to use a regulated +5v wallwart at 1.5A or redo the on board PS
15:31.36prpplagueGPSFan: i think we might have those available for resale incase people want to purchase them
15:31.46prpplagueGPSFan: sounds like thats what people are interested in
15:32.05GPSFanthis is what I did: http://elinux.org/How_to_Swtching_5V_Regulator
15:32.41GPSFanI added a bunch of stuff to the wiki, still a WIP but it's progress.
15:37.22dijenerateprpplague: so you would say in general even if it has no power, so long as it is on the USB bus it would have been in that dump
15:38.11dijenerateprpplague: and there is no way that it could have been hidden form the OS on that bus
15:38.16prpplaguedijenerate: no, if it has no power it won't show up
15:38.33dijenerateprpplague:  that's what I figured
15:38.42dijenerateprpplague: but can't figure out how to power it on
15:39.19dijenerateprpplague:  there must be some command that could be issued to the controller to tell it to power on that bus address
15:39.23prpplaguedijenerate: might be that the power is controlled by  gpio or something
15:39.36dijenerateprpplague: sony's block diagram even specified the address
15:39.44prpplaguedijenerate: if its usb then its going to be just 4 wires on the cable connecting the card
15:39.53prpplaguedijenerate: +5v,gnd , +D, -D
15:40.06prpplaguedijenerate: if that is also true, then you should be able to check for power
15:40.12dijenerateprpplague: I can't tell for certain from the photo if it is
15:40.21prpplaguedijenerate: address?
15:40.29dijenerateprpplague: are you at work?
15:40.35dijenerateprpplague:  Bus address 6
15:40.56prpplaguedijenerate: ahh
15:40.59prpplaguedijenerate: yea, why?
15:41.05dijenerateprpplague: wanna see inside a Sony product? I can be there in a half hour
15:41.11dijenerateprpplague:  lol
15:41.20dijenerateprpplague:  what do you say?
15:41.34prpplaguedijenerate: my finally got her US visa
15:41.38prpplaguemy wife that is
15:41.45dijenerateprpplague: this sucks, ok I can be there is half a wee
15:41.54dijenerateprpplague: !week
15:41.56prpplaguehehe
15:41.59dijenerateprpplague:  lol
15:42.33dijenerateprpplague: ok, so plan B...
15:43.05dijenerateprpplague: so you suggest open the device, power on, and check if the ribbon is live
15:43.43prpplaguedijenerate: that would be my plan
15:43.45dijenerateprpplague: the thing is though, the guys who swapped their WWAN for CF card readers from Japanese models had power instantly to the CF card
15:44.01dijenerateprpplague:  so I get the feeling the lines are live
15:44.44dijenerateprpplague: In winbloze, the AT&T utility brings it up on demand so it may really be gpios
15:45.17dijenerateprpplague:  questions is how to get the windows driver reverse engineered for linux
15:45.40prpplaguedijenerate: well, it might be that the +5V is turned on by gpio, which would cause the device to enumerate on the usb port
15:45.48dijenerateI have the driver installer for windows,s but had difficulty reading in in ghexedit
15:46.48dijenerateprpplague: so maybe I could test the board on another USB host controller
15:47.22dijenerateprpplague: making it possible the board itself isn't the issue but the USB interface specifically
15:47.49dijenerateprpplague: how to probe gpios... anyone know a good book?
15:47.59prpplaguedijenerate: that is correct
15:48.21prpplaguedijenerate: most people use the devmem2 application to toggle i/o's and check values
15:48.35prpplaguedijenerate: you can also use jtag to do that as well
15:48.56jbevrengah
15:49.02dijenerateprpplague: ...flashbacks... bad memories
15:49.04jbevrenyou -have- to use linux 2.6 with debian now?
15:50.00prpplaguedijenerate: got any close up photos of the cable for the wwan card?
15:50.34dijenerateprpplague: nothing other than those on  the site, thay aren't too good
15:50.38dijenerateprpplague:  I'll have to go into it
15:50.43dijenerateprpplague:  avtually, hangon
15:50.54dijenerateprpplague: !actually
15:58.10prpplaguedijenerate: http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2637
15:58.24prpplaguedijenerate: not very good close ups, but from the chat it does seem that it is USB based
15:59.53prpplaguedijenerate: what proc is on the UX?
16:00.37dijenerateprpplague: that's the same site as before
16:00.57dijenerateprpplague: core solo U1400
16:01.16dijenerateprpplague: that's the forums section
16:01.39prpplaguedijenerate: yea i know, just the that url has the additional posted comments
16:01.47prpplaguedijenerate: that x86?
16:01.57dijenerateprpplague: yeah
16:02.02dijenerateprpplague: P4 class
16:02.06prpplagueahh
16:02.07dijenerateprpplague: 1.2GHz
16:02.28prpplaguedijenerate: is it well documented?
16:03.13dijenerateprpplague:  processor or system?
16:04.44dijenerateprpplague:  system is a Sony so no documentation for the user, unless you hump someone's leg in the VPs office
16:09.11dijenerateprpplague: processor documentation is here:
16:09.13dijeneratehttp://processorfinder.intel.com/Details.aspx?sSpec=SL8W6
16:09.37dijeneratehttp://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/core/solodocumentation.htm
16:10.16dijenerateprpplague: the WWAN is a Sony Ericsson board but I know no more about it
16:10.39prpplaguedijenerate: well i'd check the docs to see if the chip has some gpios
16:11.39dijenerateprpplague:ahhh, I see where you are going wit this...
16:11.44dijenerateprpplague:!with
16:22.29dijenerateprpplague:so you think it may be a command specific to the U1400 and its chipset that tells the USB controller to power on or off a specific bus address
16:22.59dijenerateprpplague:brilliant, if that's the case then this may actually be quite easy
16:24.20dijenerateprpplague:but then what specifically tells it not to power down the other addresses... hmmm
16:25.05dijenerateprpplague:could be a specific way in which the device is built that says, start powered down...
16:25.17jbevrenwtf!
16:25.20jbevrenmodprobe wont load ac97
16:25.28jbevreninsmod does it
16:26.17prpplaguedijenerate: correct, most SoC's have gpios configured as an input and pulled high when powered on or reset
16:26.33prpplaguedijenerate: which is usually inverted to generate a power off state for a device
16:26.57prpplaguedijenerate: what will need to happen is the gpio will need to be configured as an output and set low to generate the power on
16:27.10prpplaguedijenerate: assuming it is a simple and fairly standard configuration
16:28.24dijenerateprpplague: so this is a case of find the gpio that corresponds to the USB bus address 6 and play around with it until it get something showing up
16:28.47dijenerateprpplague: first task is to identify the gpio itself
16:29.15dijenerateprpplague: next figure out what intel's command set is for this SoC
16:29.52dijenerateprpplague: then issue the command from linux to switch through the states of the gpio until I find the one that turns the radio on
16:31.09dijenerateprpplague: of course this is a start, next thing is to hope this SE board is a simple GC75 or GC83 GPRS/EDGE radio so drivers are standard
16:31.38dijenerateprpplague:ok, well I have my work cut out for m, so I'll try this
16:32.18dijenerateprpplague:thanks man, this is the furthest I've gotten so far and I don't know yet if it works, but it feels like some kind of progress
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16:49.08dijenerateprpplague: damn that is a lot of reading!
16:52.46prpplaguedijenerate: thats why they pay the embedded people the big bucks hehe
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17:14.20wmatprpplague: did you ping me recently?
17:14.43wmatprpplague: I have a note here to ping you back, but can't remeber if I'd done so or not
17:18.12prpplaguewmat: just wondering if you got a status on the elinux.org pages and that there was a missing page from the old wiki EzUsb
17:27.36wmatprpplague: I don't have a status yet
17:35.29prpplaguewmat: okie dokie
17:38.10wmatprpplague: it's still on my todo list, but work is taking up all of my time :/
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17:54.21prpplaguewmat: i know how that is
17:57.28Exileshmmmm, writing a kernel thats about under 1mb may have caused issues
17:59.25Exilescopy memory:0x30008000+1024k nor:256k
18:03.51prpplagueExiles: yea, that will erase over the top of the rootfs
18:04.11Exilesyeah, I noticed
18:04.12prpplagueExiles: the new layout for apex and the kernel has the max kernel size to 1024k
18:04.13jbevrendoh :(
18:04.19jbevrentime for a new rootfs :X
18:04.57Exilesokay, time for the new apex layout
18:05.29jbevrenprpplague: does the 'system' partition include apex+linux+ramdisk?
18:05.34Exilesalso the led gpio driver is missing in the kernel
18:05.58jbevrenoh, how's the mmc driver coming btw?
18:06.01prpplaguejbevren: correct
18:06.07jbevrenprpplague: cool
18:06.24prpplagueExiles: are you sure?
18:06.27jbevrendoh. no sx in busybox :)
18:07.48prpplagueExiles: i'm showing it in the source
18:08.41Exilesarch/arm/march-s3c2410
18:09.21prpplagueExiles: what are you saying that is missing?
18:09.43Exilesmach-tct_mammer.c has a refference to asm/arch/beeper-gpio.h
18:09.45jbevrenoh, didnt gpsfan make a note about that on the wiki?
18:09.47Exilesand thats missing
18:09.50jbevrenyeah
18:09.55jbevrenhe did :)
18:10.13prpplagueExiles: you said leds
18:10.28prpplagueExiles: yea, the beeper-gpio.h didn't get added to cvs
18:10.37prpplague<Exiles> also the led gpio driver is missing in the kernel
18:10.51Exilesmy bad, just woke up
18:10.55prpplaguenp
18:11.04jbevrengpsfan just hashed that line out in the kernel tree
18:11.09jbevrenyou lose the beeper but the kernel builds
18:11.15Exilesleds is the line right above it
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18:14.09jbevrencool
18:15.07jbevrenwb Tom
18:15.52Exilesso I need to flash a new apex to mod it's config it apperas
18:17.06jbevrenisnt it possible to modify the variablesa and save em (i.e. the startup ommand)?
18:17.26Exilesnot from what I'm reading
18:17.34jbevrenah ok
18:17.43jbevrenI guess there isnt a user env partition
18:17.48jbevrenso your statement makes sense
18:18.28jbevrenhm
18:18.43jbevrenI think my first kernel mod will be a usb gadget+serial driver :P
18:19.13jbevrenrs232's handy and simple enough, but usb is handier since a couple of my systems dont have real serial ports
18:21.24ExilesI have a few USB to RS232 boards
18:22.05ExilesI have one without a voltage conversion chip in it, so I can connect it right to 5v mcu's
18:23.36jbevrenExiles: handy
18:23.58jbevrenyou should pop a 5v-friendly 3.3v buffer on that so its more universal :)
18:24.14Exilesyeah, thats what I've been thinking
18:24.22Exilesbut I don't have one atm
18:24.30jbevrenthat could be a limiting factor :)
18:24.46jbevrenI have a handful of 74LV bus transcievers Ive used for level shifting
18:24.48Exilesit does supply 5v though
18:26.50jbevrenoh I should check my flyswatter since I changed to 2.6 here
18:27.45jbevrentwo serial ports yay
18:28.46jbevren. o O ( neither? )
18:29.47jbevrenwtf stderr undeclared?!
18:32.50jbevrenwtf.
18:33.04jbevrenstdio is undeclared.
18:33.08jbevrenhow the f does that happen
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18:42.04T0mW99 bottles of beer on the wall...
18:42.53jbevrenT0mW: drink one for me :O)
18:43.08T0mWjbevren: no, I don't drink, anymore
18:43.55jbevrenT0mW: drink a water for me, then :P
18:44.09jbevrenits the spirit that counts, not what's actually being consumed:)
18:44.20jbevrenT0mW: I attempt to make menuconfig
18:44.28jbevrenand it balks for pages that stderr is undeclared
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18:45.23jbevrencause debian updated libc6 but not the libc6 devl package
18:45.25ds2are you in cygwin? ;)
18:45.36jbevrends2: linux
18:48.07T0mWjbevren: ginger ale (diet) and really strong coffee
18:50.15jbevrentom: aha
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22:16.41jbevrenyuk yuk
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23:14.10MonMothaI really wish there was a feasible way to hand-mount BGs
23:14.11MonMothaBGAs
23:14.16MonMothaI don't care if it takes several hours
23:16.55joe_bleauMonMotha: I read in the logs that you might have a lead on '9263 dev boards.  I'd be interested.
23:30.44MonMothajoe_bleau: ok.  The company I work at is making something based on the 9263, but the board that carries said chip is actually fairly generic, so it may be possible to get it made as dev board
23:30.59MonMothawe were interested in knowing how much interest there would be in that, so it's good to hear responses
23:33.03joe_bleauUnderstood.  You can mark my company as interested.  If it ever gets more serious, I'm all ears.
23:33.21MonMothaok
23:33.34MonMothait doesn't bring out every feature of the chip, but does use quite a lot of it
23:34.09MonMothahopefully they'll get some of the errata fixed
23:35.07joe_bleauSeems like they'll have to, or quit advertising stuff that doesn't work, like NAND boot.
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23:43.00MonMothajoe_bleau: like half the chip...
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23:43.29MonMothaAC97 is also very difficult to use due to multiplexing it with BMS, which cannot be muxed by the reset line
23:43.49MonMothathe dev board actually attempts to use the reset line, so I'm not sure how the dev board from atmel would work (I don't have one)
23:47.06MonMothathen again, there's also no way to boot the dev board (evidently, they chuck a dataflash card in the box with it)
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23:51.28MonMothathe SAM7X series is also silly, since you can't use the ethernet in RMII mode
23:51.35MonMothawhich more than doubles the number IOs required for ethernet

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