| 00:35.01 | MonMotha | joe_bleau: pong |
| 00:56.51 | joe_bleau | Heard back from one of my CMs. |
| 00:57.16 | joe_bleau | Here's the reply: "I spoke with the guys and we'll try to help on this one. Do you know if he's ready now? Ask him to email me with info if you can. Thanks!" |
| 00:59.29 | joe_bleau | FYI: I've not had any serious quality problems with this CM. |
| 00:59.57 | joe_bleau | I've never had them do any BGA work, either, so I can't vouch for their BGA ability. |
| 01:00.17 | joe_bleau | I know they're very busy right now, so please don't expect instant turnaround. |
| 01:00.17 | MonMotha | joe_bleau: I'm not even close to ready |
| 01:00.26 | MonMotha | still at the component identification stage |
| 01:00.40 | MonMotha | package has been playing a major factor in those decisions |
| 01:00.54 | MonMotha | which is why I was trying to find one not in BGA |
| 01:01.18 | joe_bleau | Understood. |
| 01:01.47 | joe_bleau | I would ask that if you end up using them for a one-off BGA job, |
| 01:02.04 | joe_bleau | please let me know how it ends up. I suspect we'll need BGA CM in the future, and |
| 01:02.12 | joe_bleau | I'd love to have some impartial feedback on them. |
| 01:02.19 | MonMotha | gotcha |
| 01:02.25 | MonMotha | who is this, btw? |
| 01:02.54 | joe_bleau | Want me to PM you the contact info? |
| 01:03.58 | MonMotha | if you like |
| 01:04.05 | MonMotha | like I said, I cannot guarantee any business at al |
| 01:04.09 | MonMotha | this is a personal project |
| 01:04.15 | joe_bleau | I explained that to them. |
| 01:04.43 | joe_bleau | Home project, one-off, doesn't want to pay more than 50. |
| 01:14.45 | MonMotha | I'm hoping this project can result in something useful |
| 01:15.02 | MonMotha | basically, I'm tired of crappy media players running unhackable hardware/software |
| 01:15.26 | joe_bleau | I'd like something for my car. |
| 01:15.30 | MonMotha | my car also has an iPod interface, but I really would not like an ipod |
| 01:15.39 | joe_bleau | MMC slot, tuner, dirt simple UI. |
| 01:15.51 | joe_bleau | Nothing fancy, no eye candy at all. |
| 01:15.51 | MonMotha | so my idea is to clone the interface, but use my own hardware |
| 01:16.00 | MonMotha | well, in that case, you wouldn't need the LC |
| 01:16.01 | MonMotha | D |
| 01:16.10 | MonMotha | I was going to use the "PSP" LCDs from sparkfun to allow video |
| 01:16.42 | MonMotha | you could just use a character LCD or something |
| 01:17.00 | joe_bleau | Yeah, but what I've got in mind isn't sexy enough to sell. |
| 01:17.14 | joe_bleau | That PSP LCD would be gorgeous. |
| 01:18.14 | MonMotha | hence my interest |
| 01:18.22 | MonMotha | sparkfun is currently out of stock, but I'm guessing they'll get moer |
| 01:18.30 | MonMotha | I could use a smaller ARM9 with a custom LCD controller |
| 01:18.47 | MonMotha | I'd like to avoid BGA even if I can get it assembled just so that others can duplicate the project |
| 01:19.04 | MonMotha | but if I need to use a BGA part, then that's what I'll use |
| 01:19.30 | joe_bleau | Unless you're going to provide parts kits and boards, do you really think people will dupe the project? |
| 01:19.58 | MonMotha | well, it's tough to get boards made in quantity 1 |
| 01:20.03 | MonMotha | so I'll likely have some spare boards |
| 01:20.24 | MonMotha | well, boards with >2 layers, at least |
| 01:20.30 | joe_bleau | Heck, could you adapt a Chumby? |
| 01:20.32 | MonMotha | and this will require at least 4, for certain |
| 01:21.16 | MonMotha | I wanted something with the ipod connector on it |
| 01:21.23 | MonMotha | since I need to plug it into my car |
| 01:21.27 | MonMotha | I could make some adapter thingie I guess |
| 01:21.59 | joe_bleau | How many signals do you need to pass? power, ground, L, R, tx, rx? |
| 01:22.28 | MonMotha | that's about it, but the connector is a 0.5mm pitch |
| 01:22.38 | MonMotha | so you can't really mount it to anything other than a PCB |
| 01:22.44 | joe_bleau | Yeah, I've got some of the 'mates with ipod' connectors here. |
| 01:22.47 | MonMotha | now, I could get by with a 2 layer for that, I guess |
| 01:24.06 | joe_bleau | Make a breakout box? One end looks like the ipod socket |
| 01:24.29 | joe_bleau | the other end has a DE-9, 1/8" stereo jack (or couple of RCAs), and some sort of power connector. |
| 01:24.32 | MonMotha | that is a possibility |
| 01:24.47 | MonMotha | then I could just use a laptop |
| 01:25.01 | joe_bleau | Sure, if you wanted. |
| 01:25.03 | MonMotha | I would just hook up audio, but my car has support for control via the steering wheel/radio head unit |
| 01:25.16 | joe_bleau | You'd want to clone the serial control interface, right? |
| 01:25.42 | joe_bleau | Your device appears to be an iPod, as far as your auto is concerned? |
| 01:25.44 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 01:25.51 | joe_bleau | Spiffy. |
| 01:25.53 | MonMotha | that's exactly what I want |
| 01:26.07 | MonMotha | but I want MP3, AAC, Vorbis, and FLAC playback |
| 01:26.17 | MonMotha | the ipod can only do the first 2 |
| 01:26.23 | MonMotha | and you have to use itunes |
| 01:26.28 | joe_bleau | RockBox? |
| 01:26.55 | joe_bleau | Rockbox--isn't that the open source firmware replacement? |
| 01:27.08 | joe_bleau | I also thought you could use programs like Winamp to sync the ipods. |
| 01:27.08 | MonMotha | yeah, I thought about doing that |
| 01:27.17 | MonMotha | do they have MP3/AAC playback working with that? |
| 01:27.27 | MonMotha | last I'd heard, the alternate firmwares only supported minimal codecs |
| 01:27.39 | joe_bleau | I'm not up on it. (Still sucking it up with itunes under winblows here.) |
| 01:27.53 | MonMotha | ah |
| 01:28.01 | MonMotha | yeah, if they have all that working, I'll just ebay an old ipod with a dead battery |
| 01:28.07 | MonMotha | it'll remain permanently docked |
| 01:28.33 | joe_bleau | Not sure, it's not a simple situation: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
| 01:30.27 | MonMotha | yeah, looks like I'd need a 4th gen ipod for that |
| 01:30.33 | MonMotha | and those aren't overly cheap used yet |
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| 01:31.12 | joe_bleau | I'm not up on all the types. I've got an old mini and an old nano. |
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