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| 13:30.07 | chouimat | morning |
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| 13:37.10 | dbtid | hello |
| 13:37.12 | dbtid | cbrake: hello |
| 13:37.48 | wmat | prpplague: nice work on elinux.org yesterday |
| 13:38.08 | wmat | prpplague: what's with the huge list of 'Wanted Pages' though |
| 13:39.41 | prpplague | wmat: there are alot of wiki links just pointing to the wrong wiki pages |
| 13:39.58 | prpplague | wmat: i'm surprised by the fact that there are so many help files listed |
| 13:39.58 | Crofton|home | http://youtube.com/watch?v=IuwMOBM5xfU |
| 13:40.08 | Crofton|home | Pittsburgh is having ninja issues |
| 13:40.42 | wmat | prpplague: there's something in mediawiki you have to do to enable cross wiki links, which will get rid of many broken links from help pages |
| 13:41.28 | wmat | prpplague: i'll likely see the guys who host it at ARM Devcon next week, so I'll encourage them to get the hosting figured out asap |
| 13:42.49 | prpplague | wmat: ahh |
| 13:43.04 | prpplague | wmat: well there are still alot of CELF pages that are a terrible mess |
| 13:43.18 | prpplague | wmat: i'm not going to address those |
| 13:43.38 | wmat | prpplague: yes, no doubt, i'm addressing those slowly |
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| 13:45.51 | cbrake | dbtid: hello |
| 13:47.49 | dbtid | how's things up there? |
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| 14:42.07 | prpplague | hmm |
| 14:42.16 | prpplague | something didn't init right on this new board :( |
| 14:42.21 | prpplague | looks like the sdram :( |
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| 15:06.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, looks like the patch submission stuff for LAK is causing problems with some other businesses as well |
| 15:07.32 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a problem that should be brought to the attention of the higher ups |
| 15:07.44 | CosmicPenguin | And the Linux Foundation |
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| 15:38.47 | Crofton | url? |
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| 16:49.00 | dbtid | cbrake_away: you might wish to know that www.codeplex.com doesn't exists any more |
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| 17:15.21 | dbtid | i was just at vt |
| 17:15.29 | dbtid | they had an engineering job fair |
| 17:15.33 | dbtid | sec |
| 17:15.39 | dbtid | Crofton: did you attend? |
| 17:15.46 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:15.50 | dbtid | what did you think? |
| 17:16.11 | Crofton | that I should never man a booth at a college job fair |
| 17:16.18 | dbtid | lol |
| 17:16.22 | Crofton | because I would use bad judgement |
| 17:16.25 | dbtid | ah |
| 17:16.35 | dbtid | why do you say that? |
| 17:16.38 | Crofton | what company? |
| 17:16.47 | Crofton | I would tell women I could hire them |
| 17:16.51 | dbtid | rotfl |
| 17:16.57 | dbtid | what's your major? |
| 17:17.01 | Crofton | EE |
| 17:17.04 | Crofton | wireless comms |
| 17:17.04 | dbtid | ah |
| 17:17.08 | dbtid | i'll pm you the name |
| 17:17.09 | Crofton | software radio |
| 17:17.16 | dbtid | but since i'm not at a work machine, it's not public info |
| 17:17.21 | Crofton | ah |
| 17:18.39 | dbtid | i connect via my home machine |
| 17:18.44 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:18.50 | Crofton | I think lots of people do that |
| 17:19.14 | dbtid | i like to be able to talk about things without having anyone inadvertantly (or otherwise) peering over my shoulder |
| 17:19.26 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:19.37 | dbtid | are you a junior or senior? |
| 17:19.37 | Crofton | heh |
| 17:19.42 | Crofton | ancient grad student |
| 17:19.45 | dbtid | lol |
| 17:19.47 | Crofton | I'm not moving |
| 17:19.57 | Crofton | so I go to see people I know and get pens |
| 17:20.06 | Crofton | hopefully get some contract work |
| 17:20.42 | Crofton | did you get any good prospects |
| 17:20.49 | dbtid | a few i think |
| 17:21.02 | Crofton | there are alot of people here, so some of them are good :) |
| 17:21.15 | dbtid | heh |
| 17:21.16 | Crofton | the career fair can be quite a meat market |
| 17:21.18 | dbtid | yeah -- some |
| 17:21.30 | Crofton | people lining up at the fortune 500 booths |
| 17:21.49 | wmat | dbtid: you're looking for work? |
| 17:22.10 | Crofton | workers |
| 17:22.23 | dbtid | wmat 1 sec phone |
| 17:22.26 | Crofton | I just missed him |
| 17:22.54 | Crofton | I trolled the VT career fair looking for pens |
| 17:22.59 | Crofton | and cool toys |
| 17:23.05 | wmat | Crofton: heh, find any? |
| 17:23.33 | Crofton | pens |
| 17:23.37 | Crofton | blinky balls |
| 17:23.54 | wmat | Crofton: what's VT? |
| 17:23.58 | dbtid | i got a cool toy from ESE |
| 17:24.02 | wmat | Virginia Tech? |
| 17:24.03 | dbtid | virginia tech |
| 17:24.04 | wmat | ah |
| 17:24.05 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:24.34 | wmat | well, we're looking for hires right now as well |
| 17:24.43 | dbtid | wmat for what? |
| 17:24.58 | wmat | toochain developers & HPC developers |
| 17:25.10 | dbtid | hpc? |
| 17:25.18 | wmat | high perfomance computing |
| 17:25.19 | dbtid | high perf comp? |
| 17:25.21 | dbtid | yeah |
| 17:25.57 | dbtid | i was supposed to interview a phd candidate (she wanted the interview, not me) |
| 17:26.02 | dbtid | who was big into HPC |
| 17:26.04 | dbtid | but she never showed up |
| 17:26.16 | dbtid | i didn't really care; i wouldn't have hired her anyway |
| 17:26.24 | Crofton | heh |
| 17:26.24 | dbtid | but she wanted an interview, so i was being nice |
| 17:26.29 | dbtid | then she blew it off |
| 17:26.40 | Crofton | was she hot? |
| 17:26.44 | dbtid | ewwwwww |
| 17:26.49 | dbtid | a LOT of them were though :) |
| 17:26.52 | Crofton | see, this is why I can't go to career fairs :) |
| 17:26.55 | dbtid | VT has a LOT of hot chicks :) |
| 17:27.15 | Crofton | bah, they are all praying on the guys at the career fair |
| 17:27.20 | dbtid | heh |
| 17:27.22 | Crofton | er preying |
| 17:27.26 | dbtid | "you're an engineer -- make me rich" |
| 17:27.28 | dbtid | right |
| 17:28.05 | dbtid | it was a little distracting though |
| 17:28.14 | dbtid | the girls all wore their name tags in the "normal" place |
| 17:28.26 | dbtid | so when you're trying to read them, it LOOKS like you're checking them out physically |
| 17:28.38 | dbtid | they should give them some other way to identify themselves and their majors |
| 17:28.53 | dbtid | not that many of them weren't... pleasant to look upon, but still, not why we're there |
| 17:29.40 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:30.07 | Crofton | it must be really tough at those things, unless you are a huge company |
| 17:30.14 | Crofton | I hate talking the HR people |
| 17:31.58 | dbtid | i think it's easier for engineers to talk to each other |
| 17:32.03 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:32.09 | dbtid | HR people are, for the most part, scary. |
| 17:32.14 | dbtid | ours is really good here |
| 17:32.25 | Crofton | I asked one HR type if they needed any embedded linux guys and she said, give me a resume and I will check |
| 17:32.28 | dbtid | but some of the other companies i've worked for had really scary, evil people |
| 17:32.40 | dbtid | well, i'm looking for some, but they have to be new grads |
| 17:33.10 | dbtid | but i'm not looking specifically for embedded linux; just embedded computing, with flexibility, will be what i want most |
| 17:33.27 | dbtid | your computer science dept doesn't seem to prepare people for that, but your EE/CE depts do |
| 17:33.34 | Crofton | yeah |
| 17:33.39 | dbtid | some comp sci depts have embedded coursework |
| 17:33.41 | Crofton | CS departments are weird |
| 17:33.43 | dbtid | most put it in CE |
| 17:33.44 | Crofton | really |
| 17:33.48 | dbtid | i have a CS degree |
| 17:33.55 | dbtid | but i got into embedded while still in college |
| 17:34.09 | Crofton | undergrad degree is just a strting point |
| 17:34.19 | dbtid | indeed |
| 17:34.33 | dbtid | so you don't want to move from the VT area? |
| 17:34.46 | Crofton | no |
| 17:35.00 | Crofton | sorry :) |
| 17:35.21 | Crofton | I have a list of people that want to talk to me if I ever want to move |
| 17:35.31 | dbtid | heh |
| 17:37.03 | Crofton | I refer to them as "stalkers" |
| 17:42.00 | dbtid | lol |
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| 19:07.49 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 19:08.12 | chouimat | prpplague: sound fun |
| 19:09.54 | prpplague | chouimat: sdram seems dead |
| 19:10.50 | chouimat | prpplague: ouch ... I'm debuging network related problems ... the new device I got doesn't seem to work correctly with mt-daapd |
| 19:11.35 | chouimat | prpplague: small contract for the rest of the mount ... |
| 19:11.48 | chouimat | errr month |
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| 22:00.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: pong |
| 22:07.04 | ds2 | ds2: 0, SSOP: 1 |
| 22:07.06 | ds2 | :( |
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| 22:08.56 | MonMotha | you can't handle an SSOP? |
| 22:09.44 | ds2 | apparently not |
| 22:09.51 | ds2 | but I am using sticks and stones to work on SSOP :( |
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| 22:22.29 | MonMotha | I don't exactly use a tiny tip or anything |
| 22:22.43 | MonMotha | my tip is about 1/10wide |
| 22:22.47 | MonMotha | 1/10" |
| 22:22.49 | ds2 | but your tip isn't all corroded either |
| 22:22.54 | MonMotha | well no |
| 22:22.59 | MonMotha | go buy a new tip if yours is |
| 22:23.10 | ds2 | yeah, but I was in an extreme hurry |
| 22:23.30 | ds2 | needed a 3.3V UART to RS-232 adapter and only parts I had on hand were SSOP MAX3221's |
| 22:23.49 | chouimat | cover letters are a pita |
| 22:23.56 | ds2 | I need to publicly thank ADI for giving out those MiniKit boards at ESC |
| 22:24.15 | ds2 | it comes with one of those 3.3V UART to RS_232 cables all ready to go with a 0.1 header connector |
| 22:26.26 | MonMotha | chouimat: cover letters for resumes? |
| 22:26.28 | ds2 | speaking of mythtv, anyone looked at the SanDisk Vmate yet? |
| 22:26.42 | ds2 | seems like an ideal thing to turn into a mythtv backend |
| 22:26.43 | chouimat | MonMotha: yes |
| 22:27.58 | MonMotha | chouimat: I tend to keep them very brief |
| 22:28.55 | chouimat | MonMotha: I usually attach the resume to an email and put "Here my resume for more information you can call me at ...." sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't ... |
| 22:31.05 | MonMotha | I usually mention something about what kind of position I'm looking for, but that' |
| 22:31.12 | MonMotha | s because my resume has no "purpose" or "intent" section |
| 22:31.38 | MonMotha | I got tired of it getting passed around with the wrong info in that section, and it seemed pointless to begin with when kept generic ("dur, I want a job") |
| 22:31.53 | chouimat | same for me ... I still have to find a career goal ... and it's seems earning money while having fun is not good ;) |
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| 22:33.12 | MonMotha | chouimat: that only works if you find the perfect job |
| 22:33.16 | MonMotha | which is, suffice to say, difficult |
| 22:34.09 | ds2 | what about 'brownest nose in the company'? |
| 22:34.47 | chouimat | MonMotha: I thought I hda found it but it was hell and now being self employed is fun but it's hard and I won't mind a good job for 2 or 3 years to get more money in my bank account so I can start my own company ... and maybe it will help me with the depression |
| 22:43.59 | MonMotha | ok, you know Amazon has too many titles when "Power Electronics" matches books in the "Gay and Lesbian" category |
| 22:46.18 | chouimat | MonMotha: is the one about the use of car battery and nipple clamps? |
| 22:48.55 | MonMotha | chouimat|away: I didn't look... |
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| 23:09.39 | chouimat|away | MonMotha: hehe |
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| 23:39.08 | joe_bleau | prpplague: ping |
| 23:40.22 | GPSFan | prpplague: hey, I did beat on buildroot this weekend, and after building several roots, I found the ro problem. On earlier versions the remount rw was done after mounting /proc. in the 8/21 version it was done after. in the latest snapshot it has moved back to after mounting /proc. |
| 23:40.58 | GPSFan | prpplague: and so I switched ther mount -o remount,rw / to after mounting /proc, and it works... |